Hey, it depends on where you live. Here in China, at least, it's not so much that the parents give their kids a lot of money as it is that everything is dirt cheap here (real, licensed CDs here cost $2-$7 and pirated ones are less than $1). Cellphones can be had for $25 *on prepaid*.
I use Yahoo Japan's Briefcase to store music. I guess that JASRAC will try to sue me, except that I'm actually Chinese. So what do they do about non-Japanese people using Japanese services for this sort of thing? Will they try to prosecute across borders like the States does?
"Ah, the ol' classic "someone else will pay them for their work" canard."
Unless, of course, you are the "practice what you preach" type of person, wherein you actually DO go to their concerts and buy their stuff.
I use MP3 (and sometimes OGG) because it's all my music player supports. I pirate because I can't find music in a format usable on my MP3 player (I live in *China*, I bought a no-name player that doesn't support any kind of DRM because it was cheap and I'm not buying another player just to support a store's DRM). My cellphone is a different story (it supports SD-Audio DRM and I'm fully willing to buy from the store that uses it) but this time the opposition's on their end (IP check at purchase time blocks me because I'm in China- or was it because I wasn't in Japan?). I don't particularly like to pirate, though, so I buy legitimate CDs when I can (most of the time- just those obscure J-pop acts that don't sell their CDs here legit that I pirate, and even then I bought some of those CDs when I gotthe chance to go to Japan). I know it's wrong- I won't try to pretend it's OK anymore. I just try not to do this when I can (which is most of the time).
If I had the money I'd go for the PS3. I totally want to play Railfan. Yes, it's a train sim, and yes, I want to try it. It's the first Japanese train sim to feature an American transport line (Chicago subway Brown line) and it's got helicopter fly-by views. But, only have the money for a Wii and I'm happy with the Densha de Go Shinkansen version.
"And All the emulators you've named will generally require piracy to be of any use."
This isn't the US we're talking about- if they're willing to pirate Windows, they're willing to pirate other things too.
Exactly, and just as they don't have the right to be heard, XM doesn't have the right to be paid and receive ad revenue, which is what is happening here. People and ad companies are leaving because of this decision.
Their Live Spaces service censors words that are not pleasing to the Chinese government. I'd post a link here, but the search services are not being cooperative (wonder why? Not that this is MS's fault either, I suppose?).
Not in the States, but they sure censor stuff here in China.
That's not what I meant, though. I meant that I noticed a large number of people here that are dissatisfied with Microsoft. Why are they just spending their time complaining instead of protesting (as these people have done)?
Yep, there is a Chinese AV app available. I currently have Symantec Antivirus (corporate edition) on my Chinese VAIO but I think I'll go with the local product rather than continue using Symantec, looks like.
Most Chinese computer users aren't haxor geeks who build their own computer and install pirate versions.
Thank you for getting this point across. I'm one of those people who buy legit (OK, I'm not a Chinese citizen, just happen to live in China for the time being) and hate that generalization. Well... I've been sorely tempted sometimes, though. I know that I'm not updating my copy of Symantec Antivirus until this is fixed, though (I have the Chinese version of XPSP2).
No, it will only make the OSx86 project stronger (after all, if they've already bought iPods, they know how good it is and will try any method possible to get them working again before going out and buying another).
92-96C? Geez- I use water for coffee at around 50-60C (yes, it takes longer- the solution is to wait until the temperature is 40C before drinking). Most of the time when I order hot drinks this can't be done so it's frappuccinos for me.
This is why I stick to *iced* coffee or other cold drinks like Frappuccinos- no risk of burns (well, maybe frostbite, but come on, no coffee place will use that much ice).
Could you educate me on if this applies to expats (foreign nationals residing in China)? I know of some families here (Shanghai) that could be in big trouble if it is.
Believe me, I tried to look for one. I used to have one back when I lived in the States when the TV had only *one input*. They are so hard to find (haven't found one yet despite all my looking) and no one I know has one. I'll just wait for the DVD-playback upgrade or wait until I get back to the States, then. Thanks.
Problem 2- TV input. My TV has 2 inputs, both in the back (I live in China- arents are too cheap to purchase a TV with front video inputs). We have a satellite box, DVD player, and Wii. The satellite box is extremely picky (the signal to the TV or the antenna will go out if I so much as look at it funny)- unplugging the video cables and plugging them in again isn't exactly an option that I want to regularly consider. No, we can not get someone out to replace the box- the whole thing from card to box is pirate equipment (well, such stuff is technically legal for foreigners- despite the fact that I am a US citizen, my parents are locals of China) because of programming requirements. I have a PO Box in the States and have the money to buy a DirecTV card and use it, but the time difference is a big factor (approx. 12-hour difference- when I'm awake all the late-night crap is on in the States). OK, enough of that tangent.
Obviously, the logical choice would be to combine the DVD player and the Wii on the remaining AV input. That's what I'm waiting for.
Yes, quite limiting- I've all but abolished CDs from my home (except software, but that I can store safely) because I just can't carry them very far without worrying about breaking them- thus, portable CD players are no good. This is from a guy that somehow broke a Panasonic Toughbook.
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Hey, it depends on where you live. Here in China, at least, it's not so much that the parents give their kids a lot of money as it is that everything is dirt cheap here (real, licensed CDs here cost $2-$7 and pirated ones are less than $1). Cellphones can be had for $25 *on prepaid*.
Would they have considered it at all without Yahoo's clout behind it?
I specifically said non-Japanese and not Chinese because I have US citizenship, I just happen to be of Chinese origin.
I use Yahoo Japan's Briefcase to store music. I guess that JASRAC will try to sue me, except that I'm actually Chinese. So what do they do about non-Japanese people using Japanese services for this sort of thing? Will they try to prosecute across borders like the States does?
"Taking a photo of something does not steal it" Unless you're Amish.
"Ah, the ol' classic "someone else will pay them for their work" canard."
Unless, of course, you are the "practice what you preach" type of person, wherein you actually DO go to their concerts and buy their stuff.
I use MP3 (and sometimes OGG) because it's all my music player supports. I pirate because I can't find music in a format usable on my MP3 player (I live in *China*, I bought a no-name player that doesn't support any kind of DRM because it was cheap and I'm not buying another player just to support a store's DRM). My cellphone is a different story (it supports SD-Audio DRM and I'm fully willing to buy from the store that uses it) but this time the opposition's on their end (IP check at purchase time blocks me because I'm in China- or was it because I wasn't in Japan?). I don't particularly like to pirate, though, so I buy legitimate CDs when I can (most of the time- just those obscure J-pop acts that don't sell their CDs here legit that I pirate, and even then I bought some of those CDs when I gotthe chance to go to Japan). I know it's wrong- I won't try to pretend it's OK anymore. I just try not to do this when I can (which is most of the time).
If I had the money I'd go for the PS3. I totally want to play Railfan. Yes, it's a train sim, and yes, I want to try it. It's the first Japanese train sim to feature an American transport line (Chicago subway Brown line) and it's got helicopter fly-by views. But, only have the money for a Wii and I'm happy with the Densha de Go Shinkansen version.
"And All the emulators you've named will generally require piracy to be of any use."
This isn't the US we're talking about- if they're willing to pirate Windows, they're willing to pirate other things too.
Exactly, and just as they don't have the right to be heard, XM doesn't have the right to be paid and receive ad revenue, which is what is happening here. People and ad companies are leaving because of this decision.
Their Live Spaces service censors words that are not pleasing to the Chinese government. I'd post a link here, but the search services are not being cooperative (wonder why? Not that this is MS's fault either, I suppose?).
Not in the States, but they sure censor stuff here in China.
That's not what I meant, though. I meant that I noticed a large number of people here that are dissatisfied with Microsoft. Why are they just spending their time complaining instead of protesting (as these people have done)?
Now why can't people start to protest Microsoft on a similar scale?
I bought a Chinese VAIO from Best Buy (yes, we have Best Buy here in China- but just one store for now) and it didn't have restore discs.
Yep, there is a Chinese AV app available. I currently have Symantec Antivirus (corporate edition) on my Chinese VAIO but I think I'll go with the local product rather than continue using Symantec, looks like.
No, it will only make the OSx86 project stronger (after all, if they've already bought iPods, they know how good it is and will try any method possible to get them working again before going out and buying another).
Yep- all the people at my school use Facebook now.
92-96C? Geez- I use water for coffee at around 50-60C (yes, it takes longer- the solution is to wait until the temperature is 40C before drinking). Most of the time when I order hot drinks this can't be done so it's frappuccinos for me.
This is why I stick to *iced* coffee or other cold drinks like Frappuccinos- no risk of burns (well, maybe frostbite, but come on, no coffee place will use that much ice).
Could you educate me on if this applies to expats (foreign nationals residing in China)? I know of some families here (Shanghai) that could be in big trouble if it is.
Believe me, I tried to look for one. I used to have one back when I lived in the States when the TV had only *one input*. They are so hard to find (haven't found one yet despite all my looking) and no one I know has one. I'll just wait for the DVD-playback upgrade or wait until I get back to the States, then. Thanks.
Problem 2- TV input. My TV has 2 inputs, both in the back (I live in China- arents are too cheap to purchase a TV with front video inputs). We have a satellite box, DVD player, and Wii. The satellite box is extremely picky (the signal to the TV or the antenna will go out if I so much as look at it funny)- unplugging the video cables and plugging them in again isn't exactly an option that I want to regularly consider. No, we can not get someone out to replace the box- the whole thing from card to box is pirate equipment (well, such stuff is technically legal for foreigners- despite the fact that I am a US citizen, my parents are locals of China) because of programming requirements. I have a PO Box in the States and have the money to buy a DirecTV card and use it, but the time difference is a big factor (approx. 12-hour difference- when I'm awake all the late-night crap is on in the States). OK, enough of that tangent. Obviously, the logical choice would be to combine the DVD player and the Wii on the remaining AV input. That's what I'm waiting for.
You mean this? I don't see what's so creepy. I left the US some time ago, though- are the Wii commercials worse in the US?
Yes, quite limiting- I've all but abolished CDs from my home (except software, but that I can store safely) because I just can't carry them very far without worrying about breaking them- thus, portable CD players are no good. This is from a guy that somehow broke a Panasonic Toughbook.