If Microsoft can release an OS with the functiality of windows and the rock-solidness of Linux, more power to them! Why in the world would you want to restrict OS evolution just because it isn't Linux? Remember, it is about the people who work with computers, not about the linux jihad.
I agree! This has a striking resemblance to the 'coallition' that SUN belongs to. The 'coallition' are the group of companies whining to the DOJ to sue Microsoft because MS is too successfull. What happend? Was Sun worried that it could no longer compete, so instead of folding, they push lawsuits.
What is even more sad is that AOL (who is also apart of the whining coalltion) is gobbling up all these different companies and becoming a very huge internet/media company, but Janet Reno and her henchmen are so quiet about it. Isn't AOL engaging in uncompetitive practices by now (pending merger approval) controlling a large stake in all media?
I'm glad you brought up this great point, auntfloyd!
Some people think that it is great that the government is going after microsoft ONLY BECAUSE it is microsoft. They aren't looking at the bigger picture to realize that this can set a standard to allow the government _control_ and _regulate_ the software industry. All these people care about is satisfying the rabid linux jihad by seeing microsoft punished in any way possible. Imagine for a moment if you will that the DOJ turns its laser-beam to VA LINUX for participating in uncompetitive practices by gobbling up all the linux-orineted news sites on the net and ony allowing VA LINUX related hardware adds to be shown on there.
Do you _HONESTTLY_ think that the slashdot linux zealots would be supprting the DOJ? Of course not! They would be saying silly things like "Boycott the united states!" or "Lets all try to hack the DOJ page to make them suffer!"
I would rather let the FREE MARKET decide who swims and who sinks. I don't want the goverment _regulating_ and _controlling_ the software industry.
If you don't like capitolism, why don't you move in with your comrades in China?
slashdot.org is a Linux news site, and so linux oriented news is the major thing reported here. Of course, it would be nice if the nuevo-wealthy maintainers of this site would practice some unbiassed journalism. By that I mean not focusing on anti-MS news and ignoring anything about Linux that is slightly negative.
And before trolls start with the "Slashdot isn't all about Linux", I suggest you read some of the press releases by andover.net and va linux as well as some of the details regarding slashdot.org in the andover SEC filings.
Since x86 is by far the dominate way Linux is used, I think you are safe to assume that unless there is a platform specified, it is x86.
Yes I know Linux is used on sparc/alpha/ppc/etc, but the reality is that x86 is what the vast majority use. No I don't have any hard evidence to back this up, do you have any to refute it?
FINALLY someone with some sense posts in this article.
The whole of the comments makes me think of that one guys sig, "Open Source. Closed Minds. We are Slashdot."
If the Linux "community" continues to act in sch irrational and hippocratic ways, fewer and fewer people are going to take the Linux/Open Source movement seriously and come to the conclusion that they are all high-school geeks who want everything handed to them for free.
I did some Packet Snffing of the BeamIT client-to-MP3.com last night and determined that the CD info sent to MP3.com is not encrypted, making it quite easy to proxy-spoof mp3.com into thinking you own CDs that you do not.
The data on the CD sent seems to go a track-at-a-time and isn't the conventional format that you send CD data to CDDB. Instead, it seems to focus on the sector start and end positions for each track and some additional information.
Nontheless, I suspect that unless MP3.com reworks their protocol to use encryption, it will jsut be a matter of time before someone fully reverse-engineers the protocoll and "Beams" hundreds of CD's that they do not own. I wonder what the recording industry will think of that?
This is a repost of a comment from the story, http://slashdot.org/articles/99/09/29/119245.sht ml
------------------------------------------------ Was he installing from the CD? Was he installing directly from his HD under windows? Was he installing from the CD in DOS? If he was installing from DOS, he probably didn't have the foresight to load smartdrv and sat there for 4 hours while it copied all 2,000 files from the i386 dir to the HD. Anyone who has any experience installing Win2k doesn't install this way as it is like chineese water torture. DOS copies files very very slow. The better method is to either boot from the Win2k CD directly, install from Windows (if you already have it installed), or if you MUST install from DOS - make SURE you run smartdrv to speed up the file copy process.
I can't speak for beta2 since it is almost 9 months old, but Release-Canidate 2 that was released a couple of weeks ago doesn't take more than an hour to install. I am speaking on behalf of 40 or so people in #Win2000 on efnet who all install Win2k at various times. As long as they arent installing from DOS without running smartdrv, and they don't have shitty hardware, they install within an hour consistantly. ------------------------------------------------ -
To add to that, Win2k RTM (final) has been quicker to install than RC2 that is mentioned in the quoted text.
I think it was "DragonStike" by SSI apart of their DragonLance series of games (It wasn't apart of the gold-box trilogy, but was a dragonlance game nonethless).
I'm watching the Larry King Live interview with Bill Gates and he mentioned the version of Windows following Windows 2000 would be Windows 2001. (9:56Pm EST)
I think I remember reading somewhere the the engineers eliminated 200 instances in which a reboot is necessary with Windows 2000 (from firsthand experience, stuff like changing network settings no longer requires a reboot).
And there are now ways for software developers to dynamically replace DLL's without requiring a reboot. If a software package requires a reboot in windows 2000, then it wasn't designed propperly.
Open Source. Closed Minds pretty much sums up the general attitude I've seen develop here over the past year.
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When a judge dictates how the computer software industry should be run, it is a great thing (only when it is against Microsoft I imagine). When a judge dictates how usenet should be run, it is a travisty and the judge doesn't know what he is doing.
I see a lot of you saying that people are 'forced' to pick one of the _suggested_ moves by the analysts. This is simply not true. It just goes to show you that some people here comment on things which they have no idea what they are talking about. You can choose ANY move on the board you want and submit that move. That analysts are there only to supply sugegstions, not give us a list to pick from. Also, what is this nonsense about "Microsoft trying to defeat Kasparov"? That post was moderated up as insightful?! Microsoft and Kasparov set the whole thing up as a PR campaign to get more interest in chess. Microsoft benefits because more people will visit their "Zone", and Kasparov benefits because more intrested in chess which is perfect for him as chess is his living and means of money. People will bitch about anything that has the words "Microsoft" tied to it and I'm so sick of it. The bitterness here is overwhelming and if some of you people keep it up, more and more people will slip through the fingers of the Linux movement, disgusted with the childish zealots that taint it. The "World vs. Kasparov" match is a good thing for people who love the game of Chess. Stop trying to turn it into your little OS holy war!
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If Microsoft can release an OS with the functiality of windows and the rock-solidness of Linux, more power to them!
Why in the world would you want to restrict OS evolution just because it isn't Linux? Remember, it is about the people who work with computers, not about the linux jihad.
I agree! This has a striking resemblance to the 'coallition' that SUN belongs to. The 'coallition' are the group of companies whining to the DOJ to sue Microsoft because MS is too successfull.
What happend? Was Sun worried that it could no longer compete, so instead of folding, they push lawsuits.
What is even more sad is that AOL (who is also apart of the whining coalltion) is gobbling up all these different companies and becoming a very huge internet/media company, but Janet Reno and her henchmen are so quiet about it. Isn't AOL engaging in uncompetitive practices by now (pending merger approval) controlling a large stake in all media?
I'm glad you brought up this great point, auntfloyd!
Loaded maybe, but isn't it the truth?
This isn't directed to you, desertfool:
Some people think that it is great that the government is going after microsoft ONLY BECAUSE it is microsoft. They aren't looking at the bigger picture to realize that this can set a standard to allow the government _control_ and _regulate_ the software industry. All these people care about is satisfying the rabid linux jihad by seeing microsoft punished in any way possible. Imagine for a moment if you will that the DOJ turns its laser-beam to VA LINUX for participating in uncompetitive practices by gobbling up all the linux-orineted news sites on the net and ony allowing VA LINUX related hardware adds to be shown on there.
Do you _HONESTTLY_ think that the slashdot linux zealots would be supprting the DOJ? Of course not! They would be saying silly things like "Boycott the united states!" or "Lets all try to hack the DOJ page to make them suffer!"
I would rather let the FREE MARKET decide who swims and who sinks. I don't want the goverment _regulating_ and _controlling_ the software industry.
If you don't like capitolism, why don't you move in with your comrades in China?
It is simple my friend.
slashdot.org is a Linux news site, and so linux oriented news is the major thing reported here. Of course, it would be nice if the nuevo-wealthy maintainers of this site would practice some unbiassed journalism. By that I mean not focusing on anti-MS news and ignoring anything about Linux that is slightly negative.
And before trolls start with the "Slashdot isn't all about Linux", I suggest you read some of the press releases by andover.net and va linux as well as some of the details regarding slashdot.org in the andover SEC filings.
Since x86 is by far the dominate way Linux is used, I think you are safe to assume that unless there is a platform specified, it is x86.
Yes I know Linux is used on sparc/alpha/ppc/etc, but the reality is that x86 is what the vast majority use. No I don't have any hard evidence to back this up, do you have any to refute it?
I wonder if anyone is going to ask China where they got the Missile Technology to send people to space?
Didn't they steal it from the United States?
We should forgive China for that though - after all they are using Linux, so nothing else matters, right?!
Wow! With HP unix being so 'rock solid' stable, it is pretty sad that a user-level application can lock it up!
-[rev_pra_jbillim_2.0_bugfix-jbillim@dda083]---L D016)-: uname -a
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SunOS dda083 5.6 Generic_105181-15 sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-Enterprise-10000
About you comment on "Who is going to use a brand new E10k ultra server box for hacking out some c++?"
We do every day here where I work. We have three E10K's, one for development, one for testing, and one for production.
FINALLY someone with some sense posts in this article.
The whole of the comments makes me think of that one guys sig, "Open Source. Closed Minds. We are Slashdot."
If the Linux "community" continues to act in sch irrational and hippocratic ways, fewer and fewer people are going to take the Linux/Open Source movement seriously and come to the conclusion that they are all high-school geeks who want everything handed to them for free.
It really disgusts me too when Slashdot posts a link to a poll about OS's that doesn't have Linux in first place.
Then of course, all of the Linux lemmings go and 'stuff' the poll to "make sure" Linux is #1.
That really disgusts me too. What about you?
This guy is raising money for a charity and he is a hero. I agree with this.
But Bill Gates gives billions of dollars to charity and it is a conspiracy/Bill Gates Sucks/Microsoft Sucks/etc etc..
Is there a bit of Hypocrisy in the slashdot crowd?
I did some Packet Snffing of the BeamIT client-to-MP3.com last night and determined that the CD info sent to MP3.com is not encrypted, making it quite easy to proxy-spoof mp3.com into thinking you own CDs that you do not.
The data on the CD sent seems to go a track-at-a-time and isn't the conventional format that you send CD data to CDDB. Instead, it seems to focus on the sector start and end positions for each track and some additional information.
Nontheless, I suspect that unless MP3.com reworks their protocol to use encryption, it will jsut be a matter of time before someone fully reverse-engineers the protocoll and "Beams" hundreds of CD's that they do not own. I wonder what the recording industry will think of that?
This is a repost of a comment from the story,t ml
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http://slashdot.org/articles/99/09/29/119245.sh
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Was he installing from the CD? Was he installing directly from his HD under windows? Was he installing from the CD in DOS? If he was installing from DOS, he probably didn't have the foresight to load smartdrv and sat there for 4 hours while it copied all 2,000 files from the i386 dir to the HD. Anyone who has any experience installing Win2k doesn't install this way as it is like chineese water torture. DOS copies files very very slow. The better method is to either boot from the Win2k CD directly, install from Windows (if you already have it installed), or if you MUST install from DOS - make SURE you run smartdrv to speed up the file copy process.
I can't speak for beta2 since it is almost 9 months old, but Release-Canidate 2 that was released a couple of weeks ago doesn't take more than an hour to install. I am speaking on behalf of 40 or so people in #Win2000 on efnet who all install Win2k at various times. As long as they arent installing from DOS without running smartdrv, and they don't have shitty hardware, they install within an hour consistantly.
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To add to that, Win2k RTM (final) has been quicker to install than RC2 that is mentioned in the quoted text.
I think it was "DragonStike" by SSI apart of their DragonLance series of games (It wasn't apart of the gold-box trilogy, but was a dragonlance game nonethless).
Right-click on task bar.
Select "Properties".
Select "none" for menu effect.
No more fade-in menus to bitch about.
Yeah! Just look at Enlightenment!
Don't ALL slashdot articles have some anti-MS slant to them?
I'm watching the Larry King Live interview with Bill Gates and he mentioned the version of Windows following Windows 2000 would be Windows 2001. (9:56Pm EST)
You left.. to where? I'm curious why anyone would want to leave Austin?
Did you graduate from UT and went off somewhere else?
I think I remember reading somewhere the the engineers eliminated 200 instances in which a reboot is necessary with Windows 2000 (from firsthand experience, stuff like changing network settings no longer requires a reboot).
And there are now ways for software developers to dynamically replace DLL's without requiring a reboot. If a software package requires a reboot in windows 2000, then it wasn't designed propperly.
Don't the moderators read their guidelines?
Open Source. Closed Minds pretty much sums up the general attitude I've seen develop here over the past year.
When a judge dictates how the computer software industry should be run, it is a great thing (only when it is against Microsoft I imagine).
When a judge dictates how usenet should be run, it is a travisty and the judge doesn't know what he is doing.
Double Standard?
I see a lot of you saying that people are 'forced' to pick one of the _suggested_ moves by the analysts. This is simply not true. It just goes to show you that some people here comment on things which they have no idea what they are talking about.
You can choose ANY move on the board you want and submit that move. That analysts are there only to supply sugegstions, not give us a list to pick from.
Also, what is this nonsense about "Microsoft trying to defeat Kasparov"? That post was moderated up as insightful?! Microsoft and Kasparov set the whole thing up as a PR campaign to get more interest in chess. Microsoft benefits because more people will visit their "Zone", and Kasparov benefits because more intrested in chess which is perfect for him as chess is his living and means of money.
People will bitch about anything that has the words "Microsoft" tied to it and I'm so sick of it. The bitterness here is overwhelming and if some of you people keep it up, more and more people will slip through the fingers of the Linux movement, disgusted with the childish zealots that taint it.
The "World vs. Kasparov" match is a good thing for people who love the game of Chess. Stop trying to turn it into your little OS holy war!