If lawmakers actually investigated the things they were attempting to restrict, they'd know that the people viewing this on the web are getting a lot more than they bargained for
"Holy Katz!!!! You could smuggle a small child out of Mexico in that fat roll!" -pause- "What the hell am I doing?"
Germany is also where they burned books, banning ideas does not work as information wants to be free.
It's been quite a while hasn't it? OTOH, In America, NOW, if one religion were banned, all religions would be subsequently banned. Germany at least seems to know the difference between "the common good" and blindly following law. In America you can kill people because it's religiously protected (Scientology) free speech. Too bad the dead have no say (Unless you've seen 'Dark Star').
The only reason to spend a second thinking up your "outside the box" solution is because you need an excuse to stay in your own box, i.e., you need some way to keep the seemingly-explicit language in Genesis consistent with your understanding of history.
hehe I don't intend to mean it's something I dwell upon, it had just occured to me, and happened to fit both scenarios. Kind of like "Man in God's image" = god looked like an ape - fits both.
I was the only kid in Lutheran School class that thought coloring Mary white and Joseph black would be interesting.. I spent more time sitting in the corner that year than I ever spent in detention in public school.
It's not that different from ISDN. I don't mean the 128K ISDN that almost nobody can afford, but the high-speed version that's even more expensive
You mean a PRI? BRI is 128k, generally companies will install a T1 PRI (23B +1D) for voice. That is basically the same thing as current telco's use. This 'new' service is much more efficient in it's bandwidth usage (not 1 64kb channel per call), but doesn't carry the QOS that the telco's have..
I seem to recall services that allowed people outside the U.S. to place international calls anywhere at reduced rates by routing the call through the U.S. The to-U.S. leg was set up as a bogus "collect" call, so they caller payed deregulated U.S. rates for the whole thing, instead of paying local monopoly rates.
Well, now you're going OT, but if you had a magic Captain Crunch whistle, you could dial an 800#, blow the whistle (2600mhz!) - which told the switch to get ready to dial a new number, enter your LD number, and get connected. When you hung up, switch would only record a call to an 800#, not your "drop and switch"..
On the first day....(etc etc)... seventh day he rested.
(Several tens of thousands of years of silence, depending on your bible's timeline)
You do the division.
Well, you (and everyone else) seem to think a biblical day is one revolution of the Earth... What if it's a revolution of the Galaxy.. the Universe?
Some people can't "break out of the box", and take different perspectives. Both sides can be right, it just takes a little leveraging, and ego bashing.:)
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Most people run SETI for the cool factor of techy looking screen saver. It's resource is that it actually looks like you're *doing* something
Errr If you're running the SETI Sreensaver, you ARE wasting resources.. turn the damn thing off and let your CPU crunch numbers 4 times faster..
The most important conclusion (apart from SETI being a huge waste of resources) is an unavoidable cliché, which
the authors avoided presenting directly, even though it stares into the reader's face from every
page and each paragraph: What we have here is rare, maybe even unique.
Actually, based on these additional observations, SETI could refine it's search to locations that are MORE like our solar system. Since the authors book is based on making the questions fit the known answer, why not have SETI use that to it's advantage, and look for Earth-like life FIRST?
We can imagine a hell of a lot, but the authors are right, and we KNOW Earth-like life exists. Let's just start looking for the boring (bi-pedal humanoid), before looking for the fantastic (silicon/energy based, whatever you can dream).
Who's "we"? People who read Slashdot? Or people who have devoted countless hours to writing software that Lindows is now using illegally?
Illegally, heh. You make it sound like they're selling drugs to kids. They don't have a product. They're selling memberships that allow users to get sneak preview packages, and a final 1.0 release of their package.
So what you're saying is because Lindows.com has put actual money behind a potential product, which uses code that was donated, Lindows.com should be donating that potentially expanded code back, even though they're not ready to yet. So far all these posts are assuming all code that Lindows.com has is GPL. Their WINE is X11, they don't have to give that back.
Yep. Let's move all their resources away from releasing a product, to putting up a public CVS server with only GPL'd code. Sure, money grows on trees. Seems like a sound business decision to me.
"The community seems to attack them when the real focus should be elsewhere."
So what's he trying to say here, we shlould ignore gpl violations because they're on our side?
No.. He's saying lets spend our time and money working on the product, and not fucking around with licenses for an incomplete product. So you people will stop whining about why Linux isn't on the desktop.
This isn't some piece of shit software stuck up on Sourceforge. There's REAL business here, spending REAL money, and investing in the community.
Hell, depending on how you look at it, Lindows.com paid Codeweavers to write Crossover Office, and now Codeweavers can sell it as their own.
Then you wonder why busniness don't like GPL. Are you saying Lindows.com should take resources AWAY from creating a viable product, so you can have access to GPL'd source code that may have some minor (kword = word publisher)
changes, that aren't yet ready to be released?
Oh that's definately a good use of resources. I wonder why we don't see more GPL programmers running companies? Who would have thought that during the building process, some schmuck would have come along and said "I want to see everything you've done up to this point, and I don't care if it's complete or not."
Business is about making money. You want the release date pushed back farther? Go ahead and push. How does that help? What will you get out of it? Lycoris + Crossover Office? I'm sure that'll be worth it.
I see we're in Team OS/2 mode again.. Sometimes you people are worse than backseat drivers.
A good example of this is in grocery stores where the store brand gets preferential treatment -- better placement, more advertising, slightly lower cost -- over the name brand.
Ahh yes.. I have an OS/2 Warp (huge) poster from 95, when I worked at Best Buy. For some reason management didn't want it hung up..
Of course the Windows 95 stuff went up with peanuts still stuck to it..
1. "This unique interaction prevents the concrete from cracking and, when properly designed, the composite section can withstand more stress and absorb more energy than an advanced aerospace composite made using materials such as graphite and epoxy."
2. "Two of our chapter members and some other students on campus recently put this claim to the test by designing, building, and launching the first rocket made from reinforced concrete."
You seem a little hazy on the concept here. A usability test measures the average time a group of people (representative of the site's audience) take to complete a given set of tasks on a given site. A series of identical tests on iterative refinements of the site leads to a design that is most usable by the most amount of people.
You can spot the people that haven't fully grasped the concept by their remark "Usability tests? Yeah, we did one of those." One test, while useful, is not enough. To get the full benifit of such tests, you should perform as many as possible in the development cycle.
As much as you believe in them, I don't. Your argument for them makes more sense than most I've heard. You at least make it part of the development cycle. The one problem you left out is bias.
For every person who says: "We did one of those, it was crap."
There's another one who doesn't like how something works, and cries "Doesn't anyone do usability tests?"
In this thread, I merely believe in the former, while responding to the latter. Don't get defensive:)
I run a busy (military) website myself, and I've found that a lot of the users on the site don't use the site in the same way I would. They get the information they need, and they put up with a sub-optimal interface, but if I can find out what they're trying to do it's often a matter of a simple change to allow them to do it with a lot more efficiency.
I apologize if it seemed a personal attack, it wasn't. I defiantely wish you luck, but it's not going to happen. People who are used to what you think is sub-optimal (and yes, genuine crap does exist), are going to complain when you make a change. How far do you take that? Let the users build their own interfaces? Maybe the interface to build your own interface is confusing to some..
How do you say Tomato, Tomato in text? Personally, I think economics is crap theory too. You can take any course or track, and learn a LOT of detail about that particular subject. Some you'll agree with, some you won't.
A college degree doesn't necessarily make something/someone viable. So don't accept that just because someone is being taught something, that they'll know all there is to know.
Just stay open to opinions..
One is "usable" because it's close to what the user is used to.
The other is "usable" because it appeals to someon who has never used that interface before.
Funny, the only people I hear talking about usability are those who complain they can't do something, because the 'new' interface doesn't emulate what they're already used to..
I never liked how Microsoft's site worked, and people looked at me strange.
Friends never liked how Novell's site worked, and I looked at them strange..
Would you rather have a distro maintainer spending hours and hours on their website, or the distro?
Steven B. Lipner, Microsoft's director of security assurance, responded, saying: "I'd be astonished if the open-source community has in total done as many man-years of computer security code reviews as we have done in the last two months."
How often has the community found it necessary to do a complete security review of any package, years after the fact?
Imagine all restuarants fitted with these things.. You wouldn't have to shout down a waiter/waitress to fill your glass (Dr. Pepper preferably), causing you to tip bigger, and jumpstarting the economy!
Now, if the guy's posts to this list in response actually got blocked, I do feel for him a bit. What was the moderator thinking? If you're going to run something like that, you have to learn to be impartial with your kewl powerz, or pretty soon all the decent people will flee, and rightly so.
That's true, but the article said that those posts had attachments, so they were denied, which I'm sure is automatic. Kinda like sending via Outlook through Exchange auto-adds an RTF attachment (IIRC).
It seems to me if you can't follow protocol to complain, your defamation suit shouldn't include "I was silenced in my attempt to respond". But at the same time, IF the Exchange thing was at fault, what happened to his email admin?
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That's the ONLY reason I bought it. We just got a new G4, and if only Quark were 'modern', I could dump Classic mode entirely.
You need to talk to your crack dealer. Whatever he's cutting your supply with is making you hallucinate something fierce.
Reality check. This shit DOES happen.
http://www.lisamcpherson.org/
If lawmakers actually investigated the things they were attempting to restrict, they'd know that the people viewing this on the web are getting a lot more than they bargained for
"Holy Katz!!!! You could smuggle a small child out of Mexico in that fat roll!"
-pause-
"What the hell am I doing?"
It's been quite a while hasn't it? OTOH, In America, NOW, if one religion were banned, all religions would be subsequently banned. Germany at least seems to know the difference between "the common good" and blindly following law. In America you can kill people because it's religiously protected (Scientology) free speech. Too bad the dead have no say (Unless you've seen 'Dark Star').
I thought Germany banned Scientology...
Me thinks you have an extra 'm' in there. :)
You're right!! Looking forward to that new Athlon! :P
hehe I don't intend to mean it's something I dwell upon, it had just occured to me, and happened to fit both scenarios. Kind of like "Man in God's image" = god looked like an ape - fits both.
I was the only kid in Lutheran School class that thought coloring Mary white and Joseph black would be interesting.. I spent more time sitting in the corner that year than I ever spent in detention in public school.
Yeah, that lasted until you got your phone bill and realized you paid $60 for a $20 game..
You mean a PRI? BRI is 128k, generally companies will install a T1 PRI (23B +1D) for voice.
That is basically the same thing as current telco's use. This 'new' service is much more efficient in it's bandwidth usage (not 1 64kb channel per call), but doesn't carry the QOS that the telco's have..
I seem to recall services that allowed people outside the U.S. to place international calls anywhere at reduced rates by routing the call through the U.S. The to-U.S. leg was set up as a bogus "collect" call, so they caller payed deregulated U.S. rates for the whole thing, instead of paying local monopoly rates.
Well, now you're going OT, but if you had a magic Captain Crunch whistle, you could dial an 800#, blow the whistle (2600mhz!) - which told the switch to get ready to dial a new number, enter your LD number, and get connected. When you hung up, switch would only record a call to an 800#, not your "drop and switch"..
(Several tens of thousands of years of silence, depending on your bible's timeline)
You do the division.
Well, you (and everyone else) seem to think a biblical day is one revolution of the Earth... What if it's a revolution of the Galaxy.. the Universe?
Some people can't "break out of the box", and take different perspectives. Both sides can be right, it just takes a little leveraging, and ego bashing. :)
Errr If you're running the SETI Sreensaver, you ARE wasting resources.. turn the damn thing off and let your CPU crunch numbers 4 times faster..
Actually, based on these additional observations, SETI could refine it's search to locations that are MORE like our solar system. Since the authors book is based on making the questions fit the known answer, why not have SETI use that to it's advantage, and look for Earth-like life FIRST?
We can imagine a hell of a lot, but the authors are right, and we KNOW Earth-like life exists. Let's just start looking for the boring (bi-pedal humanoid), before looking for the fantastic (silicon/energy based, whatever you can dream).
Illegally, heh. You make it sound like they're selling drugs to kids. They don't have a product. They're selling memberships that allow users to get sneak preview packages, and a final 1.0 release of their package.
So what you're saying is because Lindows.com has put actual money behind a potential product, which uses code that was donated, Lindows.com should be donating that potentially expanded code back, even though they're not ready to yet. So far all these posts are assuming all code that Lindows.com has is GPL. Their WINE is X11, they don't have to give that back.
Yep. Let's move all their resources away from releasing a product, to putting up a public CVS server with only GPL'd code. Sure, money grows on trees. Seems like a sound business decision to me.
So what's he trying to say here, we shlould ignore gpl violations because they're on our side?
No.. He's saying lets spend our time and money working on the product, and not fucking around with licenses for an incomplete product. So you people will stop whining about why Linux isn't on the desktop.
This isn't some piece of shit software stuck up on Sourceforge. There's REAL business here, spending REAL money, and investing in the community.
Hell, depending on how you look at it, Lindows.com paid Codeweavers to write Crossover Office, and now Codeweavers can sell it as their own.
Then you wonder why busniness don't like GPL. Are you saying Lindows.com should take resources AWAY from creating a viable product, so you can have access to GPL'd source code that may have some minor (kword = word publisher) changes, that aren't yet ready to be released?
Oh that's definately a good use of resources. I wonder why we don't see more GPL programmers running companies? Who would have thought that during the building process, some schmuck would have come along and said "I want to see everything you've done up to this point, and I don't care if it's complete or not."
Business is about making money. You want the release date pushed back farther? Go ahead and push. How does that help? What will you get out of it? Lycoris + Crossover Office? I'm sure that'll be worth it.
I see we're in Team OS/2 mode again.. Sometimes you people are worse than backseat drivers.
Yeah, what the hell does chocolate have to do with Jedi's?
Ahh yes.. I have an OS/2 Warp (huge) poster from 95, when I worked at Best Buy. For some reason management didn't want it hung up..
Of course the Windows 95 stuff went up with peanuts still stuck to it..
1. "This unique interaction prevents the concrete from cracking and, when properly designed, the composite section can withstand more stress and absorb more energy than an advanced aerospace composite made using materials such as graphite and epoxy."
2. "Two of our chapter members and some other students on campus recently put this claim to the test by designing, building, and launching the first rocket made from reinforced concrete."
Maybe the SR-71 won't leak on the runway!
You can spot the people that haven't fully grasped the concept by their remark "Usability tests? Yeah, we did one of those." One test, while useful, is not enough. To get the full benifit of such tests, you should perform as many as possible in the development cycle.
As much as you believe in them, I don't. Your argument for them makes more sense than most I've heard. You at least make it part of the development cycle. The one problem you left out is bias.
For every person who says: "We did one of those, it was crap."
There's another one who doesn't like how something works, and cries "Doesn't anyone do usability tests?"
In this thread, I merely believe in the former, while responding to the latter. :)
Don't get defensive
I apologize if it seemed a personal attack, it wasn't. I defiantely wish you luck, but it's not going to happen. People who are used to what you think is sub-optimal (and yes, genuine crap does exist), are going to complain when you make a change. How far do you take that? Let the users build their own interfaces? Maybe the interface to build your own interface is confusing to some..
How do you say Tomato, Tomato in text?
Personally, I think economics is crap theory too.
You can take any course or track, and learn a LOT of detail about that particular subject. Some you'll agree with, some you won't.
A college degree doesn't necessarily make something/someone viable. So don't accept that just because someone is being taught something, that they'll know all there is to know.
Just stay open to opinions..
There are two types of "usable":
One is "usable" because it's close to what the user is used to.
The other is "usable" because it appeals to someon who has never used that interface before.
Funny, the only people I hear talking about usability are those who complain they can't do something, because the 'new' interface doesn't emulate what they're already used to..
I never liked how Microsoft's site worked, and people looked at me strange.
Friends never liked how Novell's site worked, and I looked at them strange..
Would you rather have a distro maintainer spending hours and hours on their website, or the distro?
I guess the solution is just: "Get used to it."
How often has the community found it necessary to do a complete security review of any package, years after the fact?
Quick someone get George W. to mandate these!
That's true, but the article said that those posts had attachments, so they were denied, which I'm sure is automatic. Kinda like sending via Outlook through Exchange auto-adds an RTF attachment (IIRC).
It seems to me if you can't follow protocol to complain, your defamation suit shouldn't include "I was silenced in my attempt to respond". But at the same time, IF the Exchange thing was at fault, what happened to his email admin?