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Iceland Moving to Hydrogen Economy
LordSah writes "Related to the recent coverage of hydrogen, it seems that Iceland is making plans to dump oil in favor of hydrogen produced by the country's abundant supply of geothermic energy. Iceland is being used as an experiment to test out hydrogen fuel cell technology en masse. It has backing from DaimlerChrysler, Shell Oil and the European Union. Article here."
but if it goes bad, they all freeze.
Is Iceland still a country, or just a corporation specializing in outsourcing large research projects? And how many of these studies can they do simultaneously without worrying about cross-contamination of the data?
Bite the hand.
THAT didn't take them long.
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and that they had no way of doing so.
It's hydrogen. Wrap it in a big bag and fly it to the buyer. How hard is that?? Yesh.
Cool. Hydrogen power, hottie blondes, and Bjork.
I'm moving in!
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I wonder if they come close to solving the storageproblem. Hydrgogen has a low fuel value so you need a lot of it. That means high pressure tanks. Which can be expensive and dangerous.
One thing I know in Syracuse they were working on is storing hydrogen on carbon matrix.
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You can become a citizen of Iceland, but you can never become a viking.
Hydrogen plants seem to be the best bet for an oil alternative for this reason. Arriving at the best method for converting Hydrogen to usable energy is the complex part (which the Iceland project hopes to come closer to solving), but the simplicity of the Hydrogen atom just screams of beauty and power.
F=MA. Very simple. Tough shit to arrive at, though (at least in Newton's time). The same simply must be true of Hydrogen.
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There's also the leakage problem. It is such a light gas that it is very difficult to avoid losing some. This means that it is beneficial to use it in very well ventilated places. The bad news: this is not what you look for in a house on Iceland!
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Iceland has been powered on geothermic energy since 1930! Hitaveita Reykjavikur (Reykjavik District Heating) supplies Reykjavik and several neighboring communities with geothermal water. There are about 150 thousand inhabitants in that area, living in about 35 thousand houses. This is way over half the population of Iceland. Total harnessed power of the utility's geothermal fields, including the Nesjavellir plant, amounts to 660 MWt, and its distribution system carries an annual flow of 55 million cubic meters of water. The first geothermal power plant was built in 1969 when a 3-MWe back-pressure turbine was installed in Bjamarflag (Námafjall field). The total electrical production of the Bjamarflag power plant in 1995 was 11.5 Gwh. The Krafla power plant, located about 10 km north of the Námafjall field, has been in operation since 1977. Initially, the power production was 8 MWe, but reached the present 30 MWe in 1982. In 1995 the total annual geothermal energy production for electricity use was 288 gigawatt hours. The list goes on.
Perhaps a little bit of research could be done to debunk crap stories like this. 15 minutes on google is all it takes to add a little credibility.
How we know is more important than what we know.
The word is "geothermal". I'm not sure if "geothermic" is even a word.
It's still in developmental stages, but it'll come to fruition and when it does we can also use Iceland to test it for the world. :)
This is from the same guy that's running the Disclosure Project.
Two fish swim into a wall, one turns to the other and says, "Dam".
I suppose they park their cars over thermal vents overnight to power them?
>At least they're not opening up large wildlife refuges for
> oil-drilling.
Neither is anybody else "opening", nor "opening large" wildlife refuges for oil drilling.
Last I heard, Hydrogen was a PITA to carry around because the particles are so tiny they tend to seep through the metal of tanker trucks, which explains why H2-powered cars aren't quite here yet (gas stations aren't setup for it).
It's also absurdly sensitive, such that you probably wouldn't want your typical 17-year-old shit-for-brains gas station clerks handling the stuff.
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Hydrogen storage is different for a couple of reasons:
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Hydrogen and Fuel Cell Letter, June 1998
Shell, April 1999
Time, January 2000
National Hydrogen Association, Spring 2000
Red Herring, July 2000
Fast Company, October 2000
ENN, December 2000
BBC, December 2001
etc.
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Funny that Iceland would go out of its way like this to prevent global warming. Iceland is one of the places that would actually benefit from global warming.
That that is is that that that that is not is not.
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bring back the hindenburg!
tons of compressed hydrogen carried by massive hydrogen air ships!