Yeah, seven is pretty much the max. Any higher and the mathmatics involved in determining who's sleeping in what bed beyond next week become too tedious.
Well, you could be told to read the links you post:
"Finally it should be noted that not all version of Unix are vulnerable to this attack. FreeBSD 4.x and above have a better chroot() system call. It can be made to fail if the process has any file descriptors open on a directory. This works by stopping the attack above which essentially works due to a file handle being open on a directory."
It all comes down to:
1. What are you doing with your system.
2. Who do you want to access it?
3. What is it worth to you?
4. What is your reputation worth? (If you're used as a DDOS base)
Without a lot of research, it looks to me, if you want to host a public anonymous FTP, you should be running Free/Open BSD.
Yesterday (ok not really..) you were whining about the amount of taxes you're paying, and today you're complaining about the DMV selling information that OTHER COMPANIES ALREADY HAVE instead of raising taxes.
"What other companies", you ask?
Well, if you have a drivers license, you DRIVE.
Therefore you have insurance.
Probably you have a car.
Therefore, you filled out paperwork at a dealer, maybe even a credit app.
How many companies is that?
1. Insurance Company
2. Joe Bob's Toyota
3. Bank Won
4. Toyota Motor Company (if you bought new)
5. DMV
Now, which of those would you rather have someone BUY your info from? Economically speaking, this income can increase the revenue of the company. Well, since your taxes goto the DMV, and there's no competition to lower taxes/DMV costs, LET THE DAMN DMV SELL YOUR INFO.
Maybe I'm making the comparison too simplistic, but your car needs to be repaired long before the battery needs replacement (Even here in WI), so why would you put an engine into everyday devices?
Batteries = No Moving Parts = No breakdown.
Re:fuel cell bike? Doh A Bicycle!
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Who the hell would want a Fuel Cell mountain bike?
I want a Fuel Cell Harley, but I think the 'Harley Rumble' might have to be an MP3.
>You are obviously confused.
:P
>What wine needs to do is implement
>all of the win32 functions.
At some point, yes.
>While that may be easy to say,
>actually doing it is not.
>Often the way a function works is not
>how MSDN says it works.
>What must be done then is painstaking
>debugging in order to get the function
>working in a way that the applications
>that use it expect it work.
Ahh, but that's where the 'front-end' work done FIRST becomes helpful. If it's difficult for people to get running, a lot of people are just going to drop the whole thing before they could submit a potentially decent bug-report.
>Secondly, saying that wine will never run all win32 apps is true, however
>I have a feeling you are thinking of something different. VxDs are the
>problem; theu will be impossible to run in the way that WINE works, you
>can't translate what a VxD is doing -- it requires direct hardware
>access. Thus you would have to throw in a whole emulator to get all VxDs
>to work. Not fun.
That's true. And I admit that I know little about Win32 programming, I think there's enough 'garbage' out there to keep basic applications from running in Wine. Hell, Elmo's Workshop doesn't run under XP quite right....
>I feel you were thinking more along the lines of what I was mentioning as
> what the first goal needs to be.
Nope. I have Terminal Server, it's a decent solution (although Citrix is better). It's not THE solution I think needs to be implemented.
Here's my situation.
I have 30 PC's. Most of them run FoxPro 5 based applications, and MS Office, on a Netware Server. I think this is a prime candidate for going
to a LTSP type setup, where I have a beefy server serving thin Linux clients, and all file access is done 'locally'. FoxPro is a bitch for
file access, and the less I can pull over the network, the faster it'll be.
I only need to convert MS Office to Star/K Office, and then run FoxPro in Wine. It's damn close, but some ole errors are killing it. The Foxpro Apps are two commerical, and a slew of custom apps, all centering around SBT.
A conversion to SQL would be exceptional, but the cost isn't beneficial.
Hell, it's $12 grand to UPGRADE to SBT 6.5 for 30 users.
In any case. The benefits would be both cost, and administration. If I can leverage NDS in there, the cost savings for the server would go away, but I would be even happier.
> Wine does include registry settings.
> I'm not sure what you are thinking.
> It does not include every one that it needs,
> but there is a reason for that;
> usually the functions that need that setting
> aren't working.
Yes, but having to import them manually should not be necessary. I found the 'documentation' to do that in the wine-devel archive.
> As another AC mentioned, the kernel already has a mechanism for
> seamlessly running PE format executables.
That's definately informative and I was not aware of that. Problem solved. Now how do we let others like me know that?
> However, if you're worried about running applications from other
> applications, wine already does that.
> Since the people that need the kinds of things you are talking about
> usually click on icons, I don't see this being a big deal.
Nope, I don't have an issue with functionality AFTER installation. Except for the obvious apps not running yet, but it's not a final product yet.
>Third, Why don't/you/ work on documentation?
Well, I'm a manager. I manage.:P
>It doesn't take a programmer. You can bug wine-devel when something
>doesn't make sense.
As much as I would like to. To be frank, I don't want to. I don't have that kind of time available.
At this point in my life, I'd rather take a day or two off, and reshingle the garage (it's a bitch lifting those things up there), than take EXTRA time out of my day to make more money on the side consulting. Yes, I enjoy helping people out. I have a bunch of stuff at www.havokmon.com/stuff for people to use, and I help out on mailing lists, but those aren't time-consuming like this project would take. I'm more of a quick-fix type of person, not spending a lot of time on one particular thing, of course, I should never have to revisit that issue either.
Plus, my documentation sucks, and I have a bad attitude about it, because I know people don't read it.
>In fact, having non programmers work on documentation often is better,
>because things that don't make sense to them definatly won't make sense to a
>user.
Ok. If I did it, this is what I would do.
Take a bare system.
Install Wine as fake_windows.
Write down what I did.
Nicen up the registry import documentation.
Create a win32 app (or find one?) to capture complete application installation for 'replay' into Wine registry, and appropriate file locations.
Now, the whole point of my original post, is the above shouldn't be needed. Wine should have the registry imported when it's installed
with fake_windows (ala codeweavers), and Installation apps should be the first
programs to run. I think it's wrong that I can't install the VFP5.0 runtime yet through Wine.
If you build it they will come. It's really true, but it 'they' can't get in, they're going to go away. And I think Wine needs to have 'more
access', before it has more applications. Why have a big park full of rides, if a large part of the community can't get in. The Linux community
is becoming more and more 'newbieish'. I see people all the time, just wanting to "Try Linux." They have no clue how to do any of that. It
took me hours to find the registry import stuff that's right there in the wine checkout (Why wasn't it mentioned in the README, or am I a twit, and just missed it?). For some reason, I just expected the installer to install the runtime.
>As for truly useful things:
>Alexandre mentioned a few weeks ago something I
>would find very useful.
>Having a part of wine or a frontend
>that would handle per-application settings.
>Thus, you could have the annoying installers that
>want to run full screen run in a 604x480 wine desktop,
>and you could have quick time player run in managed mode.
This sounds nifty, but I think it's out of order. Get the installers to RUN first, then worry about how to manage the screen real-estate.
Don't work on what's cool, it's the non-cool stuff that will get the train moving.
>-- What doesn't kill you hasn't tried hard enough.
Or you made her sign a pre-nup...
Terminal Server is a decent alternative, but the costs are on par with just running Windows on your desktop.
I'm referring to "What I think needs to be done to allow Wine to replace Windows in fairly generic environments."
Ie. My environment is FoxPro-based apps, and MSOffice.
Both on the desktop, and in the pocketbook. yes, rdesktop can be used to negate the licenses, but I'm talking legally. At this point, the cost of running Windows on the desktop is less than attempting to convert all the users to Linux, and running the app through rdesktop.
This article shows EXACTLY what is needed to move from a 'developer only', beta system into a commercial arena.
At this point, Wine for most end-users is only usable when accessing an existing Windows installation. Hell, the damn thing has a reg file that you're supposed to know (by osmosis apparently) you need to import to get some standalone functionality out of Wine.
The corporate arena is the place where anything Linux will take off, and be rewarding to the creators (be it beer, money, or recognition).
It must be accepted that Wine will NEVER run all Win32 apps. First and foremost, a frontend for running Win32 programs, independant of a pre-existing Windows installation, is needed.
Look at IBM. Sure, clustering exists in Linux. But now IBM is bringing it to the masses.
What does Wine need to do?
Include registry settings. (or auto-import)
Create a module for running Win32 exes without calling Wine (such as the Odin project does in OS/2)
Update the damn documentation. (This really should be last, because in reality, people don't want to spend an hour reading documentation, when their app just may not work.) So start with a Quick "Hit List", or script.
CodeWeavers has started this... But I don't think the initial Text File setup is nearly as much of a problem as capturing registry settings to get Apps to work in Wine Correctly. See Novell ZenWorks to see how this part is done right.
I suppose this is probably OT, but IBM does have some shining examples of "The way it SHOULD be done."
It most certainly is a huge issue. I've spoken to a couple of the members of my state's assembly. Never spoken to a congressman.
So what? I've spoken with neither. I guess that would make a State ID a huge issue. Oh no! I have a State ID!
My favorite "People just don't have a fucking clue" incident was the WI debate about the DMV selling your personal information.
Hello?!? Is everyone out there a moron? You probably don't have a DL unless you have a car. How did you get a car? Well, you went to the dealer (1), applied for a loan at a bank(2), purchased the car, then got insurance(3).
That's THREE companies who have your personal info , excluding the DMV and the auto manufacturer.
And people want to remove a source of the DMV's revenue for what: So they can pay higher prices for plates, or taxes. Morons, I tell you.
Step back, get out of your holes (maybe turn off toonami), and live in the real world.
Yeah, but there aren't many losers who don't drive.
The point is that you are not required to carry or produce a Driver's License unless you are driving a vehicle. It may be used for ID purposes, but it is not the same as a mandatory ID.
Not entirely true, it's INTENT is to identify those who are 'allowed' to drive. It's use ranges from that to opening a bank account. Yes, you MUST have some form of ID, everyone currently has at least two forms.
This is not an issue.
Yeah, but there aren't many losers who don't drive.
2) Driver's licence is state-controlled.
Oh yes, NATIONAL ID, vs STATE ID. Huge issue.
3) Driving is a state-granted ability; citizenship is a birthright.
As if nobody has ever been expelled from the U.S. Nothing is a 'birthright', and ANYTHING can be taken away from you.
4) Lose your driver's license, you can't drive until you get a new one; lose your national ID card, ???
Again, most people need to drive. Most people would be screwed without a drivers license. Then again, most people ARE NEVER ASKED for their drivers license, unless their drunk. So what's the problem?
etc, etc.
Ah.. the dreaded 'etc'. I suppose that's what happens when you lose your Social Security Card. Because THAT'S a National ID.
Oh NO!
I need a Social Security Card, Birth Certificate, and a Passport! I'll never get back into the country!
I suppose having at least TWO forms of ID is much less intrusive on your privacy. If you want to go anywhere, don't forget your passport (out of the country), or your drivers license/state ID (for porn and liquor).
God damnit. What liberal moron is still pissed about the election to Offtopic mod my post?
Let me spell it out for you.
Clinton Impeachment = Taxpayers money wasted to learn the truth about blowjobs, with no punishment.
Microsoft Settlement = Taxpayers money wasted to disclose the truth about leveraging a monopoly, with no punishment.
I think there needs to be an age restriction for moderators.
Instead, they ended up with decades of beheadings, the metric system, all kinds of silly laws in the name of "egalitarianism", and, finally, an emperor bent on expansion.
Well, the U.S. has executions, the U.S. system of measurement, all kinds of silly laws, and a President who's in the middle of a religious war (yes, it's not based on religion, but who has the ear of the locals?).
Executions are fine.
The US system of measurement sucks.
The laws.. take the good with the bad.
No, it wasn't really the President's fault that we are where we are. Some one was had do it sooner or later. But Antrax...Remember when we only had to worry about the president getting VD?
Today, they take away the right to use cookies on your website. What tomorrow, gun rights?
Dateline, New York: "A 6 year old boy was killed today when he and his friend were playing with his dad's loaded cookie. 'We were handling the cookie, you know, pointing it at each other, when all of a sudden, CRACK! And little Billy was laying on the floor with an almond in his skull.'"
"Hi, I'd like to know about your security camera system. Precisely, how many cameras do you have, what kind of media do you store your images on, and how long do you save those images?"
"Sure buddy, let me show you this way."
..Promptly gets turned around, and recieves a large bouncer's foot in the ass...
DOS. If anything gets screwed up it's easier to find a DOS (or command prompt) disk that support fat32 than it is to find one that supports NTFS.
For example.. My floppy drive is dead. I can only boot from CDROM. Ever tried to make a bootable CDROM, without a floppy drive? You have to already have the bootcat.bin file created to do it. Fortunately, I have a Compaq rescue CD, which allows me to boot to a Win98 command prompt.
What do I need it for? 3c5x9cfg.exe only runs in DOS, and I hate PnP. And really, that's about it.
But I feel better knowing I can easily access the partition if I need to.
Yes, you can boot Win2k off the CD, and into command line mode, but you STILL have to login as administrator...
I don't know what happens if you don't have the admin password or those files are screwed up...
Lastly, like I said earlier, XP doesn't appear to mount NTFS partitions when installed as Fat32. I don't know if the NTFS driver is loaded or not, but it's convienant, because my Win2k partition is safe from my kids:)
Same goes for my Fat32 paritions on my ATA-66 controller that XP doesn't support. No driver, no access.
I have a BootMagic password for my Win2k partition.. If my kids can figure out how to crack the BootMagic password, they're accessing that data the hard way:P
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Yeah, seven is pretty much the max. Any higher and the mathmatics involved in determining who's sleeping in what bed beyond next week become too tedious.
At first I thought you were referring to some KKK thing...
Been listening to too much ManCow..
No no no... It's The SLOW Motion Picture.
But I did like it, I was a kid when I first saw it, and there were plenty of potty breaks.
"BTW the first movie is out on DVD now and they did a pretty good job with the re-release."
You mean now the WHOLE 2 hour jouney of spock flying through V'Ger is in there? COOL!
Well, you could be told to read the links you post:
"Finally it should be noted that not all version of Unix are vulnerable to
this attack. FreeBSD 4.x and above have a better chroot() system call. It can be made to fail if the process has any file descriptors open on a directory. This works by stopping the attack above which essentially works due to a file handle being open on a directory."
It all comes down to:
1. What are you doing with your system.
2. Who do you want to access it?
3. What is it worth to you?
4. What is your reputation worth? (If you're used as a DDOS base)
Without a lot of research, it looks to me, if you want to host a public anonymous FTP, you should be running Free/Open BSD.
YMMV
Yesterday (ok not really..) you were whining about the amount of taxes you're paying, and today you're complaining about the DMV selling information that OTHER COMPANIES ALREADY HAVE instead of raising taxes.
"What other companies", you ask?
Well, if you have a drivers license, you DRIVE.
Therefore you have insurance.
Probably you have a car.
Therefore, you filled out paperwork at a dealer, maybe even a credit app.
How many companies is that?
1. Insurance Company
2. Joe Bob's Toyota
3. Bank Won
4. Toyota Motor Company (if you bought new)
5. DMV
Now, which of those would you rather have someone BUY your info from? Economically speaking, this income can increase the revenue of the company. Well, since your taxes goto the DMV, and there's no competition to lower taxes/DMV costs, LET THE DAMN DMV SELL YOUR INFO.
Jesus Christ people, wake up.
Maybe I'm making the comparison too simplistic, but your car needs to be repaired long before the battery needs replacement (Even here in WI), so why would you put an engine into everyday devices?
Batteries = No Moving Parts = No breakdown.
Who the hell would want a Fuel Cell mountain bike?
I want a Fuel Cell Harley, but I think the 'Harley Rumble' might have to be an MP3.
>You are obviously confused.
/you/ work on documentation?
:P
:P
>What wine needs to do is implement
>all of the win32 functions.
At some point, yes.
>While that may be easy to say,
>actually doing it is not.
>Often the way a function works is not
>how MSDN says it works.
>What must be done then is painstaking
>debugging in order to get the function
>working in a way that the applications
>that use it expect it work.
Ahh, but that's where the 'front-end' work done FIRST becomes helpful. If it's difficult for people to get running, a lot of people are just going to drop the whole thing before they could submit a potentially decent bug-report.
>Secondly, saying that wine will never run all win32 apps is true, however
>I have a feeling you are thinking of something different. VxDs are the
>problem; theu will be impossible to run in the way that WINE works, you
>can't translate what a VxD is doing -- it requires direct hardware
>access. Thus you would have to throw in a whole emulator to get all VxDs
>to work. Not fun.
That's true. And I admit that I know little about Win32 programming, I think there's enough 'garbage' out there to keep basic applications from running in Wine. Hell, Elmo's Workshop doesn't run under XP quite right....
>I feel you were thinking more along the lines of what I was mentioning as
> what the first goal needs to be.
Nope. I have Terminal Server, it's a decent solution (although Citrix is better). It's not THE solution I think needs to be implemented.
Here's my situation.
I have 30 PC's. Most of them run FoxPro 5 based applications, and MS Office, on a Netware Server. I think this is a prime candidate for going
to a LTSP type setup, where I have a beefy server serving thin Linux clients, and all file access is done 'locally'. FoxPro is a bitch for
file access, and the less I can pull over the network, the faster it'll be.
I only need to convert MS Office to Star/K Office, and then run FoxPro in Wine. It's damn close, but some ole errors are killing it. The Foxpro Apps are two commerical, and a slew of custom apps, all centering around SBT.
A conversion to SQL would be exceptional, but the cost isn't beneficial.
Hell, it's $12 grand to UPGRADE to SBT 6.5 for 30 users.
In any case. The benefits would be both cost, and administration. If I can leverage NDS in there, the cost savings for the server would go away, but I would be even happier.
> Wine does include registry settings.
> I'm not sure what you are thinking.
> It does not include every one that it needs,
> but there is a reason for that;
> usually the functions that need that setting
> aren't working.
Yes, but having to import them manually should not be necessary. I found the 'documentation' to do that in the wine-devel archive.
> As another AC mentioned, the kernel already has a mechanism for
> seamlessly running PE format executables.
That's definately informative and I was not aware of that. Problem solved. Now how do we let others like me know that?
> However, if you're worried about running applications from other
> applications, wine already does that.
> Since the people that need the kinds of things you are talking about
> usually click on icons, I don't see this being a big deal.
Nope, I don't have an issue with functionality AFTER installation. Except for the obvious apps not running yet, but it's not a final product yet.
>Third, Why don't
Well, I'm a manager. I manage.
>It doesn't take a programmer. You can bug wine-devel when something
>doesn't make sense.
As much as I would like to. To be frank, I don't want to. I don't have that kind of time available.
At this point in my life, I'd rather take a day or two off, and reshingle the garage (it's a bitch lifting those things up there), than take EXTRA time out of my day to make more money on the side consulting. Yes, I enjoy helping people out. I have a bunch of stuff at www.havokmon.com/stuff for people to use, and I help out on mailing lists, but those aren't time-consuming like this project would take. I'm more of a quick-fix type of person, not spending a lot of time on one particular thing, of course, I should never have to revisit that issue either.
Plus, my documentation sucks, and I have a bad attitude about it, because I know people don't read it.
>In fact, having non programmers work on documentation often is better,
>because things that don't make sense to them definatly won't make sense to a
>user.
Ok. If I did it, this is what I would do.
Take a bare system.
Install Wine as fake_windows.
Write down what I did.
Nicen up the registry import documentation.
Create a win32 app (or find one?) to capture complete application installation for 'replay' into Wine registry, and appropriate file locations.
Now, the whole point of my original post, is the above shouldn't be needed. Wine should have the registry imported when it's installed
with fake_windows (ala codeweavers), and Installation apps should be the first
programs to run. I think it's wrong that I can't install the VFP5.0 runtime yet through Wine.
If you build it they will come. It's really true, but it 'they' can't get in, they're going to go away. And I think Wine needs to have 'more
access', before it has more applications. Why have a big park full of rides, if a large part of the community can't get in. The Linux community
is becoming more and more 'newbieish'. I see people all the time, just wanting to "Try Linux." They have no clue how to do any of that. It
took me hours to find the registry import stuff that's right there in the wine checkout (Why wasn't it mentioned in the README, or am I a twit, and just missed it?). For some reason, I just expected the installer to install the runtime.
>As for truly useful things:
>Alexandre mentioned a few weeks ago something I
>would find very useful.
>Having a part of wine or a frontend
>that would handle per-application settings.
>Thus, you could have the annoying installers that
>want to run full screen run in a 604x480 wine desktop,
>and you could have quick time player run in managed mode.
This sounds nifty, but I think it's out of order. Get the installers to RUN first, then worry about how to manage the screen real-estate.
Don't work on what's cool, it's the non-cool stuff that will get the train moving.
>-- What doesn't kill you hasn't tried hard enough.
Or you made her sign a pre-nup...
You can't apply Linux this to Linux that?
Terminal Server is a decent alternative, but the costs are on par with just running Windows on your desktop.
I'm referring to "What I think needs to be done to allow Wine to replace Windows in fairly generic environments."
Ie. My environment is FoxPro-based apps, and MSOffice.
Both on the desktop, and in the pocketbook. yes, rdesktop can be used to negate the licenses, but I'm talking legally. At this point, the cost of running Windows on the desktop is less than attempting to convert all the users to Linux, and running the app through rdesktop.
This article shows EXACTLY what is needed to move from a 'developer only', beta system into a commercial arena.
At this point, Wine for most end-users is only usable when accessing an existing Windows installation. Hell, the damn thing has a reg file that you're supposed to know (by osmosis apparently) you need to import to get some standalone functionality out of Wine.
The corporate arena is the place where anything Linux will take off, and be rewarding to the creators (be it beer, money, or recognition).
It must be accepted that Wine will NEVER run all Win32 apps. First and foremost, a frontend for running Win32 programs, independant of a pre-existing Windows installation, is needed.
Look at IBM. Sure, clustering exists in Linux. But now IBM is bringing it to the masses.
What does Wine need to do?
Include registry settings. (or auto-import)
Create a module for running Win32 exes without calling Wine (such as the Odin project does in OS/2)
Update the damn documentation. (This really should be last, because in reality, people don't want to spend an hour reading documentation, when their app just may not work.) So start with a Quick "Hit List", or script.
CodeWeavers has started this... But I don't think the initial Text File setup is nearly as much of a problem as capturing registry settings to get Apps to work in Wine Correctly. See Novell ZenWorks to see how this part is done right.
I suppose this is probably OT, but IBM does have some shining examples of "The way it SHOULD be done."
Summarized to:
If you see a problem, fix it.
I did it the wrong way.
Me: "I can build the corporate web site. We've got some older PC's laying around here. I have Slackware 1.2, it has a web server. That should do it"
Boss: "I want it to run on NT."
Me: "Why? There are problems all over the place with Windows in general crashing just by receiving a bad packet. Nobody will know the difference."
Boss: "I will know, I want to run NT."
Me: "No. I don't want to spend all my time rebooting the thing, and people won't be able to SEE our website when that happens."
Boss: "It WILL run on NT."
Me: "Fine. Just get me the ad slicks and I'll make them into web pages."
A week later....
Me: "We site is all done. Goto www.xxx.xxx to see it."
Boss: "Great! And it runs on NT right?"
Me: "Nope."
Boss: "GODDAMMIT RICK!"
At that's how it all started....
It most certainly is a huge issue. I've spoken to a couple of the members of my state's assembly. Never spoken to a congressman. So what? I've spoken with neither. I guess that would make a State ID a huge issue. Oh no! I have a State ID!
My favorite "People just don't have a fucking clue" incident was the WI debate about the DMV selling your personal information.
Hello?!? Is everyone out there a moron? You probably don't have a DL unless you have a car. How did you get a car? Well, you went to the dealer (1), applied for a loan at a bank(2), purchased the car, then got insurance(3).
That's THREE companies who have your personal info , excluding the DMV and the auto manufacturer.
And people want to remove a source of the DMV's revenue for what: So they can pay higher prices for plates, or taxes. Morons, I tell you.
Step back, get out of your holes (maybe turn off toonami), and live in the real world.
Yeah, but there aren't many losers who don't drive.
The point is that you are not required to carry or produce a Driver's License unless you are driving a vehicle. It may be used for ID purposes, but it is not the same as a mandatory ID.
Not entirely true, it's INTENT is to identify those who are 'allowed' to drive. It's use ranges from that to opening a bank account. Yes, you MUST have some form of ID, everyone currently has at least two forms. This is not an issue.
You mean you might get coupons in the mail for your next dose of Amoxicillin?
Yeah, but there aren't many losers who don't drive.
2) Driver's licence is state-controlled.
Oh yes, NATIONAL ID, vs STATE ID. Huge issue.
3) Driving is a state-granted ability; citizenship is a birthright.
As if nobody has ever been expelled from the U.S.
Nothing is a 'birthright', and ANYTHING can be taken away from you.
4) Lose your driver's license, you can't drive until you get a new one; lose your national ID card, ???
Again, most people need to drive. Most people would be screwed without a drivers license. Then again, most people ARE NEVER ASKED for their drivers license, unless their drunk. So what's the problem?
etc, etc.
Ah.. the dreaded 'etc'. I suppose that's what happens when you lose your Social Security Card. Because THAT'S a National ID.
Oh NO!
I need a Social Security Card, Birth Certificate, and a Passport! I'll never get back into the country! I suppose having at least TWO forms of ID is much less intrusive on your privacy. If you want to go anywhere, don't forget your passport (out of the country), or your drivers license/state ID (for porn and liquor).
You mean the universe doesn't always work the way us little humans think it should?
God damnit. What liberal moron is still pissed about the election to Offtopic mod my post?
Let me spell it out for you.
Clinton Impeachment = Taxpayers money wasted to learn the truth about blowjobs, with no punishment.
Microsoft Settlement = Taxpayers money wasted to disclose the truth about leveraging a monopoly, with no punishment.
I think there needs to be an age restriction for moderators.
No, that could hurt. It's probably more equivalent to that so-called "Impeachment".
Executions are fine.
The US system of measurement sucks.
The laws.. take the good with the bad.
No, it wasn't really the President's fault that we are where we are. Some one was had do it sooner or later. But Antrax...Remember when we only had to worry about the president getting VD?
Today, they take away the right to use cookies on your website. What tomorrow, gun rights?
Dateline, New York: "A 6 year old boy was killed today when he and his friend were playing with his dad's loaded cookie. 'We were handling the cookie, you know, pointing it at each other, when all of a sudden, CRACK! And little Billy was laying on the floor with an almond in his skull.'"
hmmm.. No.. I just don't see a correlation.
Something else.. hmmmm.. .NET!
No flames please, isn't that what the damn thing's for?
Oh wait.. Linux-friendly post:
Something else.. hmmmm.. Mono!
(Isn't that what you got in High School?)
..Walks in the glass doors, meets large bouncer..
"Hi, I'd like to know about your security camera system. Precisely, how many cameras do you have, what kind of media do you store your images on, and how long do you save those images?"
"Sure buddy, let me show you this way."
..Promptly gets turned around, and recieves a large bouncer's foot in the ass...
DOS. If anything gets screwed up it's easier to find a DOS (or command prompt) disk that support fat32 than it is to find one that supports NTFS.
:)
:P
For example.. My floppy drive is dead. I can only boot from CDROM. Ever tried to make a bootable CDROM, without a floppy drive? You have to already have the bootcat.bin file created to do it. Fortunately, I have a Compaq rescue CD, which allows me to boot to a Win98 command prompt.
What do I need it for? 3c5x9cfg.exe only runs in DOS, and I hate PnP. And really, that's about it.
But I feel better knowing I can easily access the partition if I need to.
Yes, you can boot Win2k off the CD, and into command line mode, but you STILL have to login as administrator...
I don't know what happens if you don't have the admin password or those files are screwed up...
Lastly, like I said earlier, XP doesn't appear to mount NTFS partitions when installed as Fat32. I don't know if the NTFS driver is loaded or not, but it's convienant, because my Win2k partition is safe from my kids
Same goes for my Fat32 paritions on my ATA-66 controller that XP doesn't support. No driver, no access.
I have a BootMagic password for my Win2k partition.. If my kids can figure out how to crack the BootMagic password, they're accessing that data the hard way