I'm actually not sure what you meant by digging deep, but I at first assumed that you meant that I can customize it to be whatever I want. For Opera-fans it usually means UI-wise that if I don't like the UI, they respond by telling me that I can customize it to be whatever I want. But that is exactly what I don't want to do. I really want something that is close to my preferences by default. And because FF's UI is close enough, I don't really want to spend my time customizing Opera.
If instead by digging deep you meant the technical implementation, I have to say I really couldn't care less. The browser is something I mostly just use and don't even want to care how it is implemented, if it does the job for me and feels comfortable. Out-of-the box I think Opera feels very awkward compared to FF or Chrome. And out of the three FF feels the most comfortable to me. It has the back-button (though, mostly alt+left for me), the awesomebar (which has made bookmarks obsolete for me) and the keyboard shortcuts I'm familiar with and for some strange reason in my use it just works. I can live with it out of the box and it is pretty much on every computer I use, though on the two I use the most, I have hidden menubar and the bookmark bar.
This isn't a global rule. In my country, illegally gathered evidence can be used in court just as much as legally gathered evidence, but the crimes committed while gathering the evidence can and will be prosecuted separately.
Not everyone wants to dig deep. As I get older I get more lazy and don't want to configure everything so I choose products that suit me the best with pretty much default options. I have had times when I have really tried liking Opera, but I just didn't like it. A lot of things worked differently from other browsers and for me they felt wrong. Yes, I would be able to configure it to work the way I want, but I just don't want to go through that. That might be a lot of work and still something would bug me or the configurations could be lost in the next version update (I don't know if this happens with Opera or not).
I almost liked Chrome, but I hated the fact that it is installed (by default) under each user's profile and the address bar didn't work properly and the much hated awesomebar was actually the feature that turned me back to Firefox, which is the closest to what I want by default.
I tried it for a couple of weeks and I seriously tried to like it. However, I just couldn't live without the awesomebar, which was the main reason I switched back to FF.
I also didn't like how Chrome installed itself under my user profile instead of Program Files.
Personal note: When I was a little kid my mother told me not to stare into the sun. So once when I was six, I did. At first the brightness was overwhelming, but I had seen that before. I kept looking, forcing myself not to blink, and then the brightness began to dissolve. My pupils shrunk to pinholes and everything came into focus and for a moment I understood. The doctors didn't know if my eyes would ever heal. I was terrified, alone in that darkness. Slowly daylight crept in through the bandages, and I could see, but something else had changed inside of me. That day I had my first headache.
My thoughts exactly. I'll take the shorter game with a captivating story and gameplay over the artificially prolonged one.
I've seen too many games where you have to pointlessly walk around for hours and fight random enemies. Or you have to go look for fights just to get your character to a higher level.
But regarding my first point, I don't mind if the game is long as long as the longness is justified.
Same with movies, if 1h20min is enough, make it 1h20min instead of 3 hours.
I once saw a documentary where a guy from NSA (IIRC, might be some other TLA..) stated that pretty much any encrypted communications can be intercepted, if given enough time and computing power. But they usually didn't because according to him it's usually much easier, faster and cheaper to ask from either the sender or the recipient.
This is pretty usual in some fields with some highend brands. For example Polar (heart rate monitors) does not allow retailers to advertise discounts on their products, though they are allowed to sell with a discount. Same applies for many other brands that consider themselves 'not cheap'.
And if you don't sell by their rules, you are not allowed to sell them at all.
I myself don't (and I'm not implying that parent did either) consider this evil. If a manufacturer wants to limit their distribution channels, I think they are welcome to make their products hard for the consumer to acquire.
Not everywhere. At least in Finland, B2C (reseller selling to the consumer) commerce is much more regulated than B2B (Sony selling to the reseller). The reseller is responsible to the consumer by law, but Sony is responsible to the reseller (through importers and such) by contract between them.
For example in B2C commerce the seller is responsible that the product works as intended for as long as is reasonable expected, which means that no matter what the manufacturer warranty says, a TV set for example is effectively expected to work for 5 years (which is short, but longer than the manufacturer warranty). In B2B the warranty is a contract. If an ad says that there is a two year warranty, that usually means that within that time in B2C it's easier to get the reseller to take responsibility. After the two years you end up having to cite the law and some national consumer agancy decisions to get them to fix things.
See http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/interactive/2010/apr/15/volcano-airport-disruption-iceland (click on next below the first image to see how the cloud progresses and how huge it is)
I wasn't aware of the history and my experience with Symbian has been exclusively with Nokia phones, so I wasn't really aware that the UI is very different from device to device. So you're basically right, I was referring to Nokia phones, which have so far been very bad attempts to glue touch UI on top of their old UI.
It isn't. The problem with previous pads has mostly been that they have pretty much been keyboardless laptops with operating systems and UI's that are not from the very beginning been designed for touch use. I think that Apple actually is on to something by choosing the phone OS for this kind of device instead of the desktop/laptop OS. There are weaknesses as noted here and you are locked to their store and so on, but I imagine (haven't tried one) that it is a much more pleasant experience than using Windows or even OS X on a touch screen. In the phone world you can try Symbian touch devices and notice that it doesn't work there either that you try to glue touch UI on top of an OS that is meant to be used with a different input device.
I have never used iPhone OS, but I tested an Anroid phone a while back for a couple of weeks. What I noticed that I started using the phone much more as a tablet, or what I imagine I would use a tablet for, than a phone. At the launch of iPad my first thoughts were pretty much with the Slashdot mindset, thinking why not OS X. But at the moment I'm turning around to think that this is exactly the right decision and I think I would be a bit tempted to buy one - or an Android tablet, or MeeGo tablet, if it was cheap enough. I wouldn't ditch my laptop for it, but it would do some things better that lead me to go for an ultraportable last time I bought a laptop. But I wouldn't want to lose the keyboard from my laptop nor would I want my tablet to be the OS I'm running on my laptop.
The problem seems to be that at least here the Telecoms are not happy anymore selling just the "dumb pipes", but they want to also try and sell services. They see it as unfair that they are late in the game and someone is already providing free (for the consumer) services that they have a hard time competing with.
I am an example of a very bad customer, since I don't buy my ISP's video on demand, mailboxes, computer security packages, backup services and many other services. I just want a pipe and the bandwidth from them.
In Finland the government divided cable and service operators a while back. The telecoms who do both, have to have the same prices for renting cable to their own service operators as they have to external service operators. This means that when I buy my ADSL from the service provider, the service provider pays the cable provider and I'm free to switch service providers at will. I myself have my ADSL from the service provider that doesn't own the cable that comes to my house, although that the cable provider also provides ADSL service, but I didn't want theirs. I was able to get better service for less money from another provider.
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Why "otherwise"? It seems like you are trying to deny the fact that Bentley is Volkswagen.
5800 certainly has a lot of features on paper, but being a Symbian device it is an absolute pain to use. At least for me. I have been trying to find a phone to replace my E51, which has served me well for over two years now. First I tried Samsung Galaxy with Android that only had a couple of annoyances - mainly, no profiles and only the qwerty keyboard where the 5800 has the number keyboard with T9, with which I can type while walking and with one hand.
Then for the next week I borrowed the 5800, which was the hugest disappointment. The UI is stupid slow. The Samsung's Android responded always instantly with something visual so that I could see that the phone is doing something and has registered my effort to use the UI. The 5800 sometimes takes 3 seconds to give any feedback after I push the screen, has inconsistent UI (no drag-scrolling in the main applications menu, doubleclicks in random menus) and generally responds extremely sluggishly.
I happily returned the phone after 1,5 days of use and was happy to have keys with my Symbian again. The 5800 had absolutely zero cool factor for me and has a terrible UI, so I think no-one here thinks it's worth any stories. It's just a phone with a old style phone UI that has some touch screen controls badly glued on it.
Though I will say that Nokia Maps is way better for (especially car) navigation than Google Maps.
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I'm actually not sure what you meant by digging deep, but I at first assumed that you meant that I can customize it to be whatever I want. For Opera-fans it usually means UI-wise that if I don't like the UI, they respond by telling me that I can customize it to be whatever I want. But that is exactly what I don't want to do. I really want something that is close to my preferences by default. And because FF's UI is close enough, I don't really want to spend my time customizing Opera.
If instead by digging deep you meant the technical implementation, I have to say I really couldn't care less. The browser is something I mostly just use and don't even want to care how it is implemented, if it does the job for me and feels comfortable. Out-of-the box I think Opera feels very awkward compared to FF or Chrome. And out of the three FF feels the most comfortable to me. It has the back-button (though, mostly alt+left for me), the awesomebar (which has made bookmarks obsolete for me) and the keyboard shortcuts I'm familiar with and for some strange reason in my use it just works. I can live with it out of the box and it is pretty much on every computer I use, though on the two I use the most, I have hidden menubar and the bookmark bar.
Is this the case in Germany?
This isn't a global rule. In my country, illegally gathered evidence can be used in court just as much as legally gathered evidence, but the crimes committed while gathering the evidence can and will be prosecuted separately.
Not everyone wants to dig deep. As I get older I get more lazy and don't want to configure everything so I choose products that suit me the best with pretty much default options. I have had times when I have really tried liking Opera, but I just didn't like it. A lot of things worked differently from other browsers and for me they felt wrong. Yes, I would be able to configure it to work the way I want, but I just don't want to go through that. That might be a lot of work and still something would bug me or the configurations could be lost in the next version update (I don't know if this happens with Opera or not).
I almost liked Chrome, but I hated the fact that it is installed (by default) under each user's profile and the address bar didn't work properly and the much hated awesomebar was actually the feature that turned me back to Firefox, which is the closest to what I want by default.
I just tried and had 190 thousand hits from google. And it was the first word suggested in my Firefox after typing mal.
so where can i get that for windows 7 or xp?
I tried it for a couple of weeks and I seriously tried to like it. However, I just couldn't live without the awesomebar, which was the main reason I switched back to FF.
I also didn't like how Chrome installed itself under my user profile instead of Program Files.
or ctrl+click for those who use touch pads that can't be middle clicked.
Personal note: When I was a little kid my mother told me not to stare into the sun. So once when I was six, I did. At first the brightness was overwhelming, but I had seen that before. I kept looking, forcing myself not to blink, and then the brightness began to dissolve. My pupils shrunk to pinholes and everything came into focus and for a moment I understood. The doctors didn't know if my eyes would ever heal. I was terrified, alone in that darkness. Slowly daylight crept in through the bandages, and I could see, but something else had changed inside of me. That day I had my first headache.
My thoughts exactly. I'll take the shorter game with a captivating story and gameplay over the artificially prolonged one.
I've seen too many games where you have to pointlessly walk around for hours and fight random enemies. Or you have to go look for fights just to get your character to a higher level.
But regarding my first point, I don't mind if the game is long as long as the longness is justified.
Same with movies, if 1h20min is enough, make it 1h20min instead of 3 hours.
Where I work Linux is far from default choice.
The real servers doing real work here run Solaris and HP-UX.
Well I have two tabs open in my Firefox at the moment, one of which is this Slashdot page and it's eating up 205MB.
I saw a few hundred of their products just a couple of days ago when I visited one of our datacenters.
I once saw a documentary where a guy from NSA (IIRC, might be some other TLA..) stated that pretty much any encrypted communications can be intercepted, if given enough time and computing power. But they usually didn't because according to him it's usually much easier, faster and cheaper to ask from either the sender or the recipient.
This is pretty usual in some fields with some highend brands. For example Polar (heart rate monitors) does not allow retailers to advertise discounts on their products, though they are allowed to sell with a discount. Same applies for many other brands that consider themselves 'not cheap'.
And if you don't sell by their rules, you are not allowed to sell them at all.
I myself don't (and I'm not implying that parent did either) consider this evil. If a manufacturer wants to limit their distribution channels, I think they are welcome to make their products hard for the consumer to acquire.
What we clearly need is a Mythbusters episode on the subject!
Not everywhere. At least in Finland, B2C (reseller selling to the consumer) commerce is much more regulated than B2B (Sony selling to the reseller). The reseller is responsible to the consumer by law, but Sony is responsible to the reseller (through importers and such) by contract between them.
For example in B2C commerce the seller is responsible that the product works as intended for as long as is reasonable expected, which means that no matter what the manufacturer warranty says, a TV set for example is effectively expected to work for 5 years (which is short, but longer than the manufacturer warranty). In B2B the warranty is a contract. If an ad says that there is a two year warranty, that usually means that within that time in B2C it's easier to get the reseller to take responsibility. After the two years you end up having to cite the law and some national consumer agancy decisions to get them to fix things.
See http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/interactive/2010/apr/15/volcano-airport-disruption-iceland (click on next below the first image to see how the cloud progresses and how huge it is)
I wasn't aware of the history and my experience with Symbian has been exclusively with Nokia phones, so I wasn't really aware that the UI is very different from device to device. So you're basically right, I was referring to Nokia phones, which have so far been very bad attempts to glue touch UI on top of their old UI.
It isn't. The problem with previous pads has mostly been that they have pretty much been keyboardless laptops with operating systems and UI's that are not from the very beginning been designed for touch use. I think that Apple actually is on to something by choosing the phone OS for this kind of device instead of the desktop/laptop OS. There are weaknesses as noted here and you are locked to their store and so on, but I imagine (haven't tried one) that it is a much more pleasant experience than using Windows or even OS X on a touch screen. In the phone world you can try Symbian touch devices and notice that it doesn't work there either that you try to glue touch UI on top of an OS that is meant to be used with a different input device.
I have never used iPhone OS, but I tested an Anroid phone a while back for a couple of weeks. What I noticed that I started using the phone much more as a tablet, or what I imagine I would use a tablet for, than a phone. At the launch of iPad my first thoughts were pretty much with the Slashdot mindset, thinking why not OS X. But at the moment I'm turning around to think that this is exactly the right decision and I think I would be a bit tempted to buy one - or an Android tablet, or MeeGo tablet, if it was cheap enough. I wouldn't ditch my laptop for it, but it would do some things better that lead me to go for an ultraportable last time I bought a laptop. But I wouldn't want to lose the keyboard from my laptop nor would I want my tablet to be the OS I'm running on my laptop.
They still haven't replaced that horrible OS X on their laptops with the fantastic OS found on their tablet computer?
The problem seems to be that at least here the Telecoms are not happy anymore selling just the "dumb pipes", but they want to also try and sell services. They see it as unfair that they are late in the game and someone is already providing free (for the consumer) services that they have a hard time competing with.
I am an example of a very bad customer, since I don't buy my ISP's video on demand, mailboxes, computer security packages, backup services and many other services. I just want a pipe and the bandwidth from them.
In Finland the government divided cable and service operators a while back. The telecoms who do both, have to have the same prices for renting cable to their own service operators as they have to external service operators. This means that when I buy my ADSL from the service provider, the service provider pays the cable provider and I'm free to switch service providers at will. I myself have my ADSL from the service provider that doesn't own the cable that comes to my house, although that the cable provider also provides ADSL service, but I didn't want theirs. I was able to get better service for less money from another provider.
Why "otherwise"? It seems like you are trying to deny the fact that Bentley is Volkswagen.
5800 certainly has a lot of features on paper, but being a Symbian device it is an absolute pain to use. At least for me. I have been trying to find a phone to replace my E51, which has served me well for over two years now. First I tried Samsung Galaxy with Android that only had a couple of annoyances - mainly, no profiles and only the qwerty keyboard where the 5800 has the number keyboard with T9, with which I can type while walking and with one hand.
Then for the next week I borrowed the 5800, which was the hugest disappointment. The UI is stupid slow. The Samsung's Android responded always instantly with something visual so that I could see that the phone is doing something and has registered my effort to use the UI. The 5800 sometimes takes 3 seconds to give any feedback after I push the screen, has inconsistent UI (no drag-scrolling in the main applications menu, doubleclicks in random menus) and generally responds extremely sluggishly.
I happily returned the phone after 1,5 days of use and was happy to have keys with my Symbian again. The 5800 had absolutely zero cool factor for me and has a terrible UI, so I think no-one here thinks it's worth any stories. It's just a phone with a old style phone UI that has some touch screen controls badly glued on it.
Though I will say that Nokia Maps is way better for (especially car) navigation than Google Maps.