Module test
Sub Main
Dim s As String
System.Console.Write( VarPtr(s) )
End Sub
End Module
Results in:
Microsoft (R) Visual Basic Compiler Version 7.00.8905 [NGWS version 2000.14.1812.10]
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corp 2000. All rights reserved.
D:\tmp\test.vb(4) : error BC30451: The name 'VarPtr' is not declared.
System.Console.Write( VarPtr(s) )
~~~~~~
D:\tmp\test.vb(4) : error BC30451: The name 'VarPtr' is not declared.
All too often, I see ESR and others merely summarize information that is already out there, and take easy shots at Microsoft. I have said so in the past.
This article appeared genuinely different to me, and is the type of article I would like to encourage. Based on the other replies - somehow that makes me bad. Whatever.
Even is the information that the article was based on turns out to be incorrect, this is quite different than accusing ESR of "trying to propagate a lie". By making such statements, this makes me wonder about your motives; reducing your credibility; exactly the point I was originally trying to make.
Brings up a new and important point (four years is a long time to go unnoticed) that didn't get much press coverage previously, and refrains from taking gratuitious shots at Microsoft that would detract from the message.
Expecially good is the "Microsoft HQ is doubtless sincere when it says this back door wasn't authorized". In this case, giving MS the benefit of the doubt actually makes the case for open source *stronger*.
While traveling in England recently, I got a chance to see a British documentary on computers. It touched on the subject of pornography on the internet, and stated that the problem was being overblown. It said that the most that children could get access to was text, but downloading a picture was beyond the abilities of most, and seeing a video was near impossible.
The documentary was originally made in 1995, and was still being shown late last year.
Anything that is possible today, and that there is a demand for, will be made easy for all to use much faster than any government can react.
Pretty much the same idea, albeit on a much smaller scale, IBM NetObjects TopPage for Linux has links to download a base version of Wine required as well as the patches which must be applied on top of it.
As an IBMer who has worked through the legal, marketing, and executive teams to get commit status to PHP and Jakarta let assure you that it can be done.
And none of this would have been possible without the pioneers who blazed the path towards open source within IBM with contributions like Jikes.
May, 1999 Mindcraft tries again, and issues this call for an "open benchmark" to retry its NT-vs.-Linux tests. This time, people who know something about Linux will be allowed to participate
June, 1999 The Mindcraft benchmark is rerun with Linux experts present. NT still wins; Linux comes out with set of things to fix. Many of the fixes happen within a few weeks.
RedHat comes with Kaffe. Does this imply that Sun is now endorsing a cleanroom implementation? Particularly given Kaffe's development is aided by Microsoft...
In order to support web browsers as Notes clients, a lot of rendering must be done on the server - at the expense of all other users. For many installations which are running at peak capacity, this is a luxury that can't be afforded.
Mozilla (a.k.a. Navigator 5.0) already has an ActiveX control which is plug compatible with IE5. All one needs to change in their program is the GUID. 12-14 months? Should take about 12-14 seconds...
They even have a program which can be run on binaries and automates the process....
It isn't a zero sum game, folks. If Mandrake is successful, this will likely increase the number of users of Linux in general, and attract more developers, possibly resulting in a net increase of *each* distribution.
The trend is happening again, and again, and again.
What do you do if you are making a product for the mass market and you find yourself in the unfortunate position of being the number two vendor? You make it free.
What do you do if the number one vendor has made theirs free (gratis)? You publish the source, protocols
It is amusing to see people taking positions on these events based on their preconceived notions as to the relative "goodness" or "evilness" of the corporate sponsor. Yesterday, AOL was evil. Today they are good. Bah!
Message to all: chill. Enjoy. It doesn't matter who is doing this, in the long run we are the winners.
Linux according to Jesse Berst "I think it's great if you are willing to promote Linux to your boss. As long as you are aware of the risk you are taking. The risk of getting fired." (Feb. 16). From lwn:
"I think it's great if you are willing to promote Linux to your boss. As long as you are aware of the risk you are taking. The risk of getting fired." (Feb. 16).
"Is a Linux takeover likely? Give me a break. Of course not." (June 23).
"I personally think Windows NT will be the mainstream operating system within a few years." [...] "My belief: Linux will never go mainstream" (Sep. 9).
"I've always said that Linux could become a serious challenger to Microsoft's Windows NT." (Sep. 28).
Slashdot Mirror
The best defense to forking is momentum/inertia. Sun has already said that there are 5 million or so users, who would want to leave them behind?
Module test
Sub Main
Dim s As String
System.Console.Write( VarPtr(s) )
End Sub
End Module
Results in:
Microsoft (R) Visual Basic Compiler Version 7.00.8905 [NGWS version 2000.14.1812.10]
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corp 2000. All rights reserved.
D:\tmp\test.vb(4) : error BC30451: The name 'VarPtr' is not declared.
System.Console.Write( VarPtr(s) )
~~~~~~
D:\tmp\test.vb(4) : error BC30451: The name 'VarPtr' is not declared.
A good list of programming languages for the JVM can be found at http://grunge.cs.tu-berlin.de/ ~tolk/vmlanguages.html.
fixed.
Here's the correct URL
This article appeared genuinely different to me, and is the type of article I would like to encourage. Based on the other replies - somehow that makes me bad. Whatever.
Even is the information that the article was based on turns out to be incorrect, this is quite different than accusing ESR of "trying to propagate a lie". By making such statements, this makes me wonder about your motives; reducing your credibility; exactly the point I was originally trying to make.
Expecially good is the "Microsoft HQ is doubtless sincere when it says this back door wasn't authorized". In this case, giving MS the benefit of the doubt actually makes the case for open source *stronger*.
The documentary was originally made in 1995, and was still being shown late last year.
Anything that is possible today, and that there is a demand for, will be made easy for all to use much faster than any government can react.
Pretty much the same idea, albeit on a much smaller scale, IBM NetObjects TopPage for Linux has links to download a base version of Wine required as well as the patches which must be applied on top of it.
Makes my post somewhat less relevant now...
Based on my read of the article, he is only leaving AOL/NetScape.
Who is the CEO of the "merged" company. Who now is the CTO?
And best of all, it is actually in their best interests to be perceived as the ones being bought out...
And none of this would have been possible without the pioneers who blazed the path towards open source within IBM with contributions like Jikes.
Mindcraft tries again, and issues this call for an "open benchmark" to retry its NT-vs.-Linux tests. This time, people who know something about Linux will be allowed to participate
June, 1999
The Mindcraft benchmark is rerun with Linux experts present. NT still wins; Linux comes out with set of things to fix. Many of the fixes happen within a few weeks.
Sun's earlyAccess JDK for Linux only runs on i386 machines. According to Kevin Hendricks, Sun spokesman only said that Sparc might eventually get supported
Good news, however, on the Wine front. For more details, see The Lotus Notes for Linux Resource Page
They even have a program which can be run on binaries and automates the process....
Perhaps EFF's blue ribbon?
Ponder the implications of this for a moment.
Note: I work for neither MS or RH.
It isn't a zero sum game, folks. If Mandrake is successful, this will likely increase the number of users of Linux in general, and attract more developers, possibly resulting in a net increase of *each* distribution.
From previous discussions, the slashdot server appears to routinely saturate its connection to the internet.
- What do you do if you are making a product for the mass market and you find yourself in the unfortunate position of being the number two vendor? You make it free.
- What do you do if the number one vendor has made theirs free (gratis)? You publish the source, protocols
It is amusing to see people taking positions on these events based on their preconceived notions as to the relative "goodness" or "evilness" of the corporate sponsor. Yesterday, AOL was evil. Today they are good. Bah!Message to all: chill. Enjoy. It doesn't matter who is doing this, in the long run we are the winners.
What I don't know is to what extent wine implements the necessary ActiveX infrastructure.
Summary: everything except integrated Web Browsing works.