I think a much better solution would be to line everybody up who lost their personal information and give them each one swing with a baseball bat at the guy.
the soviet union was set up quite differently (albeit with about the same level of concern for the average person), so I don't think it would exactly happen the same way. Also I don't see it ending any other way to be honest. What do you expect; the US government to suddenly become uncorrupt and practice wise spending/fiscal policy? I sure don't. The people in power are going to run the country into the ground; so why lie to myself that it's not going to end that way? It's not if I want it to happen its that its going to and Id rather it just happen and be done with.
I wonder what would happen if the pirate bay admins suddenly hired their own people to follow Prince around. Seriously, people that would take pictures of his every move, looking for something embarrassing to publish in... oh....never mind
I question whether they pay for the future of anyone's children. The healthcare system and educational system in this country are horrifically mismanaged and our infrastructure is aging and in some cases crumbling. Maybe some taxes go to keep these services up to token levels but I think the rest lines corrupt individual's pockets
Thank you for the reply, I appreciate the speculations
1. I don't think something being illegal has any kind of correlation to its morality or ethical standpoint and its only illogical if I agree that the social contract is desirable as it stands, you may enjoy the social contract but I think its corruption mandates its dismantling. 2. Why is insulting a government a bad thing? Who can give me an argument that insulting a government is a bad thing unless the insult is malicious whereas I view it as legitimate. 3. No one has a right to not be offended, I think my position, while perhaps offensive to some, is legitimate. 4. I do not see where I insulted those who disagree with me.
I do not think my comment deserved to be modded troll. I think the moderation was based on the opinion expressed and not based on the spirit it was given in, which was honest.
You could also just opt to not pay the tax. Yes it's illegal, but I posit the following: Who cares anymore?
The law in this country has become a complete and utter travesty where you're a felon pretty much no matter what you do. Have someone write the code and pay them in cash.
Or will it take people until they begin taxing air to do this?
Gah, doesn't anyone have limits?
Attn: Maryland State Government: Pull your heads out of your collective asses. You're not entitled to shit.
It's their own fault for working for AT&T and/or SBC. You work for a company of shitty morals don't be surprised when you get shat on. If anybody gives me the "it's not their fault they work for ATT/SBC" shpiel I'll be nothing but amused No one forces you to work anywhere. I don't expect anything less from Ma Bell
Wow...I'm not surprised at all. What fools. In my own code of ethics I'm very very very lenient on just about everything in a "as long as it doesn't hurt anybody else do as you will". Yet, not only is it hurting people, but this is from someone who has made it their work to handle other people's lives in their hands. Moron. He should have to pay for what it takes to help these 25 million or 50 million or however many people get their lives back in order. Himself.
Well telcos, I guess you have to upgrade the network now like you promised for the tax cuts clinton gave you between 1996 and 2000! What was it? 200 billion?
I'd like to take this a step further. Losing side pays for everything and owes the defendant the amount initially requested by plaintiff. You want to sue for excessive and crazy amounts? You lose you pay the same.
You're quite right, no one would want to take on the job of prosecuting capital cases. But I'm not talking here about a prosecutor receiving the sentence they were going for if they lose the case, but if it's shown that they were prosecuting the case in a corrupt or illegal manner. For prosecutors using illegal or corrupt methods to push their cases, perhaps they should be put to death if they're willing to use immoral methods to sentence others to it. I say this and I'm against the death penalty; for those who would use it as a tool though, they should be subject to it for misusing their ability to sentence others to it. CodeBuster: thanks for bringing that procedure to my attention, I was completely unaware that such a thing existed so late (relatively speaking) in Common Law. Heh, if both parties agreed to it maybe Trial by Combat wouldn't be such a bad thing. Some people think I'm excessively harsh in my opinions of punishments for corruption; but I stand by it
If you take other people's lives and livelihoods in your hands, and you fuck with them for your own gain, you should die.
Just think how many vacant seats there would be in congress!
I'm sick of these sorts of comments because they assume similarities of opinion amongst those in the United States. Yes our fucked up corrupt piece of shit government has been doing this to people for years but there's not much we can do about it (as we don't really live in a representative government anymore) Why the gloating from those of you from non-US countries? Do you think we like what's going on? Do you think we like the fact that we live in a fucking idiocracy where the governing bodies are made up of psychopaths?!
I'm sorry to come off as rude but all this "payback's a bitch eh?" happens to strike me in the heart. Please consider that there are some of us who don't consider ourselves nationals of the United States yet who for now live on the soil it claims. Please stop these comments that group those living in the United States together I don't make blanket statements about "The French" "Brits" "Aussies" or anything else unless joking, and this is clearly not a joking matter.
Again sorry for the vitrol but I don't want to be associated with the insane fascist policies of a government I disown.
Dammit all to hell...
I've been wanting to go to Japan for about 4 years and have been slowly saving up money for a trip there.
Now Japan is (until I can get trustworthy evidence that they've stopped this) on my list of "DO NOT TRAVEL" countries along with such places as China and Singapore.
Dammit...
The Anime Characters I love wouldn't put up with this!!!!
Is anyone actually surprised here? I am of the opinion that any legal system begins serving those who make it up rather quickly. The US Legal system serves overzealous prosecutors over all others and seems to be on a trend to increase this.
Maybe all that's left are primary sources. Perhaps trusting the media in general has now become impossible. I think that would be a fabulous development, if people accessed primary sources more (or became primary sources) the world would have a great deal more informed opinions to choose from rather than the same old crap repeated endlessly.
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I think a much better solution would be to line everybody up who lost their personal information and give them each one swing with a baseball bat at the guy.
You wouldn't trust them to run a mail server.
I wouldn't trust them to take a shit properly.
You trust them for things above defecation? Do tell
methinks you and the person you're responding to have differing definitions of "on the dole". I happen to disagree with your definition.
Who want you to trust them with your DNA. ... ...
Think about that.
You should now have shit yourself.
carry on.
I for one hope any hired thugs that do anything violent end up being paid back in kind, preferably with buckshot.
the soviet union was set up quite differently (albeit with about the same level of concern for the average person), so I don't think it would exactly happen the same way. Also I don't see it ending any other way to be honest. What do you expect; the US government to suddenly become uncorrupt and practice wise spending/fiscal policy? I sure don't. The people in power are going to run the country into the ground; so why lie to myself that it's not going to end that way? It's not if I want it to happen its that its going to and Id rather it just happen and be done with.
I wonder what would happen if the pirate bay admins suddenly hired their own people to follow Prince around.
Seriously, people that would take pictures of his every move, looking for something embarrassing to publish in...
oh....never mind
thank you sauge, I feel the same way
Other people living on soil claimed by the American Mafia
We are being scammed.
maybe Maryland took a cue from Bush, perhaps the Governor views the Maryland Constitution as just a piece of paper.
I question whether they pay for the future of anyone's children.
The healthcare system and educational system in this country are horrifically mismanaged and our infrastructure is aging and in some cases crumbling.
Maybe some taxes go to keep these services up to token levels but I think the rest lines corrupt individual's pockets
Thank you for the reply, I appreciate the speculations
1. I don't think something being illegal has any kind of correlation to its morality or ethical standpoint and its only illogical if I agree that the social contract is desirable as it stands, you may enjoy the social contract but I think its corruption mandates its dismantling.
2. Why is insulting a government a bad thing? Who can give me an argument that insulting a government is a bad thing unless the insult is malicious whereas I view it as legitimate.
3. No one has a right to not be offended, I think my position, while perhaps offensive to some, is legitimate.
4. I do not see where I insulted those who disagree with me.
I do not think my comment deserved to be modded troll. I think the moderation was based on the opinion expressed and not based on the spirit it was given in, which was honest.
I would like someone to justify how that is a troll. I sincerely believe what I wrote above. If this offends you, that is not my fault.
And hopefully by not paying, make the power collapse under its own grotesque weight. Worthless fuckers
You could also just opt to not pay the tax.
Yes it's illegal, but I posit the following:
Who cares anymore?
The law in this country has become a complete and utter travesty where you're a felon pretty much no matter what you do.
Have someone write the code and pay them in cash.
Or will it take people until they begin taxing air to do this?
Gah, doesn't anyone have limits?
Attn: Maryland State Government: Pull your heads out of your collective asses. You're not entitled to shit.
It's their own fault for working for AT&T and/or SBC. You work for a company of shitty morals don't be surprised when you get shat on.
If anybody gives me the "it's not their fault they work for ATT/SBC" shpiel I'll be nothing but amused
No one forces you to work anywhere.
I don't expect anything less from Ma Bell
Wow...I'm not surprised at all. What fools. In my own code of ethics I'm very very very lenient on just about everything in a "as long as it doesn't hurt anybody else do as you will". Yet, not only is it hurting people, but this is from someone who has made it their work to handle other people's lives in their hands.
Moron.
He should have to pay for what it takes to help these 25 million or 50 million or however many people get their lives back in order.
Himself.
hell, in Soviet America too
Well telcos, I guess you have to upgrade the network now like you promised for the tax cuts clinton gave you between 1996 and 2000! What was it? 200 billion?
This is the telcos fault, screw them.
I'd like to take this a step further.
Losing side pays for everything and owes the defendant the amount initially requested by plaintiff.
You want to sue for excessive and crazy amounts? You lose you pay the same.
You're quite right, no one would want to take on the job of prosecuting capital cases. But I'm not talking here about a prosecutor receiving the sentence they were going for if they lose the case, but if it's shown that they were prosecuting the case in a corrupt or illegal manner.
For prosecutors using illegal or corrupt methods to push their cases, perhaps they should be put to death if they're willing to use immoral methods to sentence others to it. I say this and I'm against the death penalty; for those who would use it as a tool though, they should be subject to it for misusing their ability to sentence others to it.
CodeBuster: thanks for bringing that procedure to my attention, I was completely unaware that such a thing existed so late (relatively speaking) in Common Law. Heh, if both parties agreed to it maybe Trial by Combat wouldn't be such a bad thing.
Some people think I'm excessively harsh in my opinions of punishments for corruption; but I stand by it
If you take other people's lives and livelihoods in your hands, and you fuck with them for your own gain, you should die.
Just think how many vacant seats there would be in congress!
I'm sick of these sorts of comments because they assume similarities of opinion amongst those in the United States. Yes our fucked up corrupt piece of shit government has been doing this to people for years but there's not much we can do about it (as we don't really live in a representative government anymore)
Why the gloating from those of you from non-US countries? Do you think we like what's going on? Do you think we like the fact that we live in a fucking idiocracy where the governing bodies are made up of psychopaths?!
I'm sorry to come off as rude but all this "payback's a bitch eh?" happens to strike me in the heart. Please consider that there are some of us who don't consider ourselves nationals of the United States yet who for now live on the soil it claims. Please stop these comments that group those living in the United States together I don't make blanket statements about "The French" "Brits" "Aussies" or anything else unless joking, and this is clearly not a joking matter.
Again sorry for the vitrol but I don't want to be associated with the insane fascist policies of a government I disown.
Dammit all to hell... I've been wanting to go to Japan for about 4 years and have been slowly saving up money for a trip there. Now Japan is (until I can get trustworthy evidence that they've stopped this) on my list of "DO NOT TRAVEL" countries along with such places as China and Singapore. Dammit... The Anime Characters I love wouldn't put up with this!!!!
Convict someone of a crime based on evidence you know to be faulty, you serve the sentence instead.
You argued for the death penalty?...ohhh....bad move...
Is anyone actually surprised here? I am of the opinion that any legal system begins serving those who make it up rather quickly. The US Legal system serves overzealous prosecutors over all others and seems to be on a trend to increase this.
Maybe all that's left are primary sources. Perhaps trusting the media in general has now become impossible.
I think that would be a fabulous development, if people accessed primary sources more (or became primary sources) the world would have a great deal more informed opinions to choose from rather than the same old crap repeated endlessly.