Well, the NES Classic Series Legend of Zelda is currently $20 used at Gamestop, so I have to imagine that it was not less than that new...
In any case, the Virtual Console won't have any of the brick-and-mortar distribution and sales costs that the NES Classics carts, or even the cards, had. As downloads, they'll be almost pure profit.
I see this mentioned frequently, and it is the reason I mentioned the other compilations out there. You don't see Defender selling by itself for $20+. They sell it on a compilation with several other games. Nintendo doesn't do this. It's not a matter of the physical media costing so much to sell.
You shouldn't worry about it. We 're talking Nintendo, who currently provides online gaming over the Internet for free (And used by millons). Expect no more than a few bucks per title and maybe some games for free.
You should worry about it. We're talking about Nintendo, who currently resells old console games on the Game Boy for $30 each instead of bundling several games into a "collection" like every other retro-gaming company on earth.
I understand that as a business owner you can always say "it's my money, I decide what to do with it," but these same people expect two weeks' notice if someone wants to quit.
Yes, they expect it, but in an "at will" state, you don't have to give it. Generally, you do give notice because you aren't an asshole. The same reason that, generally, your boss doesn't fire you for no reason.
There are obviously some exceptions, including contractual obligations and assholes.
Under the direction of series creator Masahiro Sakurai, Super Smash Bros. Brawl will feature classic, GameCube-style combat -- not Wii-style motion-controlled combat. That means players who prefer to play the game with the traditional control setup can look forward to using the GameCube control-style they're already accustomed to.
"We found that trying to implement too much motion-sensory functionality can get in the way of the game. We're looking at keeping the control simple, as it has been," said Sakurai. "The Wii hardware has sockets for the GameCube controller, too. So I'll just say now that you may not want to throw away your GCN controller yet."
It took 15 seconds for me to change my jaded mind from slightly mocking to kool-aid drinking. I've experienced the way PS3 games control, and it's epoch-making.
haha. Epoch-making. You've got to be kidding me. I find it hard to take anything else this guy says seriously.
Which may not be accessible to games running in Wii mode. Or has Nintendo stated that Wii games can use the GCN controllers?
Right. The previous comment that I posted (you might recognize it as the one you just replied to) had a link to the Wii gamepad. That is a gamepad. For the Wii.
2)Nintendo has a proven emulation system on the Gamecube for NES, SNES, and N64. This means old devs don't have to port, they just need to get Nintendo a rom. Zero cost to them.
I pointed this out to a friend, and he said, "dude, not every game is going to use all the motion sensing crap, some are just going to turn the right hand controller over 90 degrees and use that". But, wait. Then, we've got a square controller, with a 4-way D-pad on the left side, and two buttons on the right side. Here's an artist's rendering.
They're going to have trouble trying to shoehorn the technology into games that serious gamers want to sit and play for 6 hours.
You are forgetting about the four gamecube controller ports, and this.
Why not? It would finally settle the age old feud between keyboard/mouse and console controllers when it comes to FPS.
Do you remember when Quake III came out on the Dreamcast and you could play against the Dreamcast players from your PC? (It seems like you had to download the maps from somewhere...it's hazy.)
It was settled then. Gamepad lost. Every time. It was a sad day in Dreamcast land.
Unless one of those compatibility issues affects your favorite game by scrambling the graphics beyond recognition or (worse) causing it to halt. And have emulators of newer systems (PS1, N64) progressed to the point where they don't need settings per game?
That I don't know. I mostly play MAME and SNES. And by that I mean Robotron and Tetris Attack.:)
Can you get such an LCD for $150 like this 24" CRT SDTV? Not everybody makes a ton of money.
Well, the money you save on games...(*IF YOU WERE SO INCLINED TO DO THAT SORT OF THING WHICH I AM NOT BECAUSE THAT IS WRONG*)
I don't really watch TV and my TV sucks. I use my computer's LCD for pretty much everything.
The front-loading NES can output composite video. The Super NES, PS1, N64, PS2, and GameCube (and presumably the PS3 and Wii) can output S-video. Who needs an RF switch?
Well, completely ignoring the lackluster stuff they showed, I think people were probably a little annoyed at having to stand outside for an extra hour because Sony started so late.
I still have all my old consoles (other than the Master System which broke years ago), but they mostly just take up room in the closet.
Some day they'll release a Sega CD game that doesn't suck, though, and the years of lugging this thing from place to place will have all been worth it...
I'm not sure where Nintento licensed their motion sensing controller from, but the gyros required to make such a thing work, while not exactly "old news," are available and there is already a company making a similar controller for PC.
Strangely, Nintendo invested in that company in 2001.
Why? On an emulator you can use the same controller, but you can crank up the resolution and use anti-aliasing and filtering to make the games look better than they did when they were new, or pipe it to the TV if you want it like it was originally.
What do you gain from playing on an old piece of hardware?
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Wow, that was pretty terrible. Someone got paid for that.
Well, the NES Classic Series Legend of Zelda is currently $20 used at Gamestop, so I have to imagine that it was not less than that new...
In any case, the Virtual Console won't have any of the brick-and-mortar distribution and sales costs that the NES Classics carts, or even the cards, had. As downloads, they'll be almost pure profit.
I see this mentioned frequently, and it is the reason I mentioned the other compilations out there. You don't see Defender selling by itself for $20+. They sell it on a compilation with several other games. Nintendo doesn't do this. It's not a matter of the physical media costing so much to sell.
You shouldn't worry about it. We 're talking Nintendo, who currently provides online gaming over the Internet for free (And used by millons).
Expect no more than a few bucks per title and maybe some games for free.
You should worry about it. We're talking about Nintendo, who currently resells old console games on the Game Boy for $30 each instead of bundling several games into a "collection" like every other retro-gaming company on earth.
I understand that as a business owner you can always say "it's my money, I decide what to do with it," but these same people expect two weeks' notice if someone wants to quit.
Yes, they expect it, but in an "at will" state, you don't have to give it. Generally, you do give notice because you aren't an asshole. The same reason that, generally, your boss doesn't fire you for no reason.
There are obviously some exceptions, including contractual obligations and assholes.
*sigh*
Under the direction of series creator Masahiro Sakurai, Super Smash Bros. Brawl will feature classic, GameCube-style combat -- not Wii-style motion-controlled combat. That means players who prefer to play the game with the traditional control setup can look forward to using the GameCube control-style they're already accustomed to.
"We found that trying to implement too much motion-sensory functionality can get in the way of the game. We're looking at keeping the control simple, as it has been," said Sakurai. "The Wii hardware has sockets for the GameCube controller, too. So I'll just say now that you may not want to throw away your GCN controller yet."
Linky.
Maybe they unofficially got word 10 months ago and started development then
Is that when Nintendo unveiled the Revolution controller? If so, you're probably right.
From the "article":
It took 15 seconds for me to change my jaded mind from slightly mocking to kool-aid drinking. I've experienced the way PS3 games control, and it's epoch-making.
haha. Epoch-making. You've got to be kidding me. I find it hard to take anything else this guy says seriously.
Which may not be accessible to games running in Wii mode. Or has Nintendo stated that Wii games can use the GCN controllers?
Right. The previous comment that I posted (you might recognize it as the one you just replied to) had a link to the Wii gamepad. That is a gamepad. For the Wii.
You might check it out.
2)Nintendo has a proven emulation system on the Gamecube for NES, SNES, and N64. This means old devs don't have to port, they just need to get Nintendo a rom. Zero cost to them.
Live Arcade + MAME...
I pointed this out to a friend, and he said, "dude, not every game is going to use all the motion sensing crap, some are just going to turn the right hand controller over 90 degrees and use that". But, wait. Then, we've got a square controller, with a 4-way D-pad on the left side, and two buttons on the right side. Here's an artist's rendering.
They're going to have trouble trying to shoehorn the technology into games that serious gamers want to sit and play for 6 hours.
You are forgetting about the four gamecube controller ports, and this.
I realize you're probably joking, but in the video of the E3 show they all had wrist straps.
Why not? It would finally settle the age old feud between keyboard/mouse and console controllers when it comes to FPS.
Do you remember when Quake III came out on the Dreamcast and you could play against the Dreamcast players from your PC? (It seems like you had to download the maps from somewhere...it's hazy.)
It was settled then. Gamepad lost. Every time. It was a sad day in Dreamcast land.
We want to make a movie that will not only appeal to our existing fans, but will also bring in people that have never heard of Warcraft before.
And that is why it is going to suck.
s/purposes/purchases/
Every adult I know own toys and play games, so what's your point?
My point was that it is silly to over-rationalize entertainment purposes. I'm not sure why that was so hard to grasp for you, but whatever.
Mature consumers buy a product because they like the product, not because they like the people buying it.
... toys and games ... is an inspiration to us all, sir!
Your mature rationality in the face of an impending purchase of
Unless one of those compatibility issues affects your favorite game by scrambling the graphics beyond recognition or (worse) causing it to halt. And have emulators of newer systems (PS1, N64) progressed to the point where they don't need settings per game?
:)
That I don't know. I mostly play MAME and SNES. And by that I mean Robotron and Tetris Attack.
Can you get such an LCD for $150 like this 24" CRT SDTV? Not everybody makes a ton of money.
Well, the money you save on games...(*IF YOU WERE SO INCLINED TO DO THAT SORT OF THING WHICH I AM NOT BECAUSE THAT IS WRONG*)
I don't really watch TV and my TV sucks. I use my computer's LCD for pretty much everything.
The front-loading NES can output composite video. The Super NES, PS1, N64, PS2, and GameCube (and presumably the PS3 and Wii) can output S-video. Who needs an RF switch?
Me. Because my TV sucks. (see above.)
Oh come on now. It says right in the press release that the rumble interferes with the motion sensing apparatus!
Sony never lies, you're just being a cynic.
Well, completely ignoring the lackluster stuff they showed, I think people were probably a little annoyed at having to stand outside for an extra hour because Sony started so late.
- benefits far outweigh the tiny fraction of compatibility issues.
- Running in increased resolution with AA on my 24" LCD looks better than a crappy RF switch running to my TV.
- yes...of course.
No rumble in the controllers on any model, either.
I still have all my old consoles (other than the Master System which broke years ago), but they mostly just take up room in the closet.
Some day they'll release a Sega CD game that doesn't suck, though, and the years of lugging this thing from place to place will have all been worth it...
Check out this PDF...
It looks like HDMI will only be on the 60GB model. Strange...
I'm not sure where Nintento licensed their motion sensing controller from, but the gyros required to make such a thing work, while not exactly "old news," are available and there is already a company making a similar controller for PC.
Strangely, Nintendo invested in that company in 2001.
Nothing compares to playing on an actual console.
Why? On an emulator you can use the same controller, but you can crank up the resolution and use anti-aliasing and filtering to make the games look better than they did when they were new, or pipe it to the TV if you want it like it was originally.
What do you gain from playing on an old piece of hardware?