'Cause they don't want to pay for a new version or bother getting a pirate copy, or deal with the headaches of upgrading, and maybe it simply works for them and feel no obligation to change?
Why would these people even bother upgrading Firefox? 1.0 should be enough for those people. And if they don't care about their OS of choice's vulnerabilities, they surely won't care about their browser's either.
The SATA specification is able to reach 300 MB/s, but single harddrives can't even saturate UDMA. Gigabit NICs only reach 125 MB/s, so one could have almost two of them in a 1xPCIe slot. Good point with the RAID cards, but isn't that what 4xPCIe is for?:)
As for PhysX, it doesn't really need a lot of bandwidth. All it does is send updated positions for all the objects, which can be done with one 3x4 matrix per object (4 * 12 bytes). Even on a scene with 5000 objects running at 100 updates/s it would only need roughly 24 MB/s (48 bytes per object * 5000 objects * 100 hz = ~24 MB/s), well within the limits of PCI. PCIe would probably help in the initial setup of the scene, but the PPU will get bottlenecked by the PhysX processor before it is slowed down by PCI.
Having big 16x slots with less than 16 lanes does sound like a useful feature, I had no idea macs had something like that.
The plus side to all of this if they make a successful push to move physx to a spare video card maybe we can see a more rapid transition to 8x and 16x slots on motherboards, instead of farting around with a bunch of PCI and 1x 2x 4x slots.
There's lots of uses where anything over 1x is overkill. PCIe is a point-to-point design, so all that extra capacity would go completely unused if we start sticking NICs and SATA cards in 16x slots (PCIe has 250 MB/s per lane!).
It seems like those of us who are savvy to these issues need a homeland of our own:)
That's a thought that has occured to me as well. Hopefully nanotubes pan out for the space elevator and free thinkers will be able to settle on some nice open frontier.
No, I have more disposable income because pharmaceuticals become cheaper. And on closer thought that also decreases my taxes because the government needs to pay less for healthcare. The Chinese might be mooching off our research, but we would benefit from the increased competition in production.
Hmmmm...so if the Indian and Chinese pharma companies take the medical research that Europeans have paid for, create knock-off drugs, and sell them cheap in Europe to undercut the European pharma companies then you would be fine with that? The United States is not "out to get you" with our patent system, but it is surprising to that so many Europeans would be willing to simply pay more than the rest of the world for the same products (through higher taxes to support the research that everyone else is free riding and benefiting from). I am sure that the Chinese and Indians would be happy to have you pay for all the research so that they can knock-off your products for pennies on the dollar when the research actually turns up a useful new drug. Please forgive me for saying this, but your assertion that Europeans are willing to endure such obvious unfairness strains credibility.
The thing is, that even though we would end up paying more taxes, we would save money by having to pay less for medicines thanks to more competition among the pharmaceutic producers. I don't see the downside. No, losing a couple of jobs to China isn't a downside, the saved money will create other jobs in Europe.
There are other ways to accomplish this, but this is a nice one.
I thought participating in the democratic process to enact change was the "other way" people always mention? If there are easier ways to do it then I'm curious to hear about them.
DirectX 10, which evidently will *only* be Vista (though I've yet to see a technological reason why it can't go into XP other than "We need a reason for you to upgrade to Vista).
The problem lies in the new display driver model in Vista, which allows GPU's to be multitasked among other things. Porting it to XP probably wouldn't be a simple task, and I think it is a valid excuse to making DX10 Vista exclusive.
the US had with the Europeans over the US saving their bacon durng WWII
I would have to say that the Axis powers disagree with that sentiment. And yes, they were mostly Europeans as well. I don't know how WWII without the US would have turned out, but I very much doubt the eastern Europeans were thankful for the help the Soviets got from the US.
Haven't we heard enough of this "piracy is going to kill our economy" bullshit? Why are we focusing on this, when the our (America's) trade deficit with China is over $200,000,000,000/year (yes, that is 200 billion dollars a YEAR at the current rate). Seems to me that this piracy thing is small potatoes, in the end.
Cease your pirate propaganda, slashdotters are too smart to fall for it. There's been credible studies that have come to the conclusion that piracy costs $11,440,939,650,000 per month. In fact, unless piracy is immediately stopped, it will cost more than $132 trillion by the end of this year; your measly $200 billion is small potatoes compared to that!
They're already under construction, by Halliburton's trusty subsidiary Kellogg Brown & Root. Don't know about the gas chambers, killing off potential labor is a bit wasteful IMO.
A MMOG with no level cap would be pretty cool. Having a Sauron-like huge warrior that can take on an army single-handedly would be crazy, and a mage that is able to enchant incredible, almost one-of-a-kind (because only a very small percentage of players would ever reach the required level) weapons would be very popular. Obviously it would take a lot of work to make such a game, but maybe it could have instances with level-adjusted mobs or something.
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That's what virtual machines are for. MS Virtual Server is free nowadays, grab it from their homepage and be rid of your W98 HD.
'Cause they don't want to pay for a new version or bother getting a pirate copy, or deal with the headaches of upgrading, and maybe it simply works for them and feel no obligation to change?
Why would these people even bother upgrading Firefox? 1.0 should be enough for those people. And if they don't care about their OS of choice's vulnerabilities, they surely won't care about their browser's either.
The SATA specification is able to reach 300 MB/s, but single harddrives can't even saturate UDMA. Gigabit NICs only reach 125 MB/s, so one could have almost two of them in a 1xPCIe slot. Good point with the RAID cards, but isn't that what 4xPCIe is for? :)
As for PhysX, it doesn't really need a lot of bandwidth. All it does is send updated positions for all the objects, which can be done with one 3x4 matrix per object (4 * 12 bytes). Even on a scene with 5000 objects running at 100 updates/s it would only need roughly 24 MB/s (48 bytes per object * 5000 objects * 100 hz = ~24 MB/s), well within the limits of PCI. PCIe would probably help in the initial setup of the scene, but the PPU will get bottlenecked by the PhysX processor before it is slowed down by PCI.
Having big 16x slots with less than 16 lanes does sound like a useful feature, I had no idea macs had something like that.
That's a kibimeter. ;)
The plus side to all of this if they make a successful push to move physx to a spare video card maybe we can see a more rapid transition to 8x and 16x slots on motherboards, instead of farting around with a bunch of PCI and 1x 2x 4x slots.
There's lots of uses where anything over 1x is overkill. PCIe is a point-to-point design, so all that extra capacity would go completely unused if we start sticking NICs and SATA cards in 16x slots (PCIe has 250 MB/s per lane!).
It seems like those of us who are savvy to these issues need a homeland of our own :)
That's a thought that has occured to me as well. Hopefully nanotubes pan out for the space elevator and free thinkers will be able to settle on some nice open frontier.
Your post is confusing me, because 1000 meters is a kilometer.
Google it!
Bizarro-Slashdot?
No, I have more disposable income because pharmaceuticals become cheaper. And on closer thought that also decreases my taxes because the government needs to pay less for healthcare. The Chinese might be mooching off our research, but we would benefit from the increased competition in production.
That's the reason their server was/is located in Sweden...
Hmmmm...so if the Indian and Chinese pharma companies take the medical research that Europeans have paid for, create knock-off drugs, and sell them cheap in Europe to undercut the European pharma companies then you would be fine with that? The United States is not "out to get you" with our patent system, but it is surprising to that so many Europeans would be willing to simply pay more than the rest of the world for the same products (through higher taxes to support the research that everyone else is free riding and benefiting from). I am sure that the Chinese and Indians would be happy to have you pay for all the research so that they can knock-off your products for pennies on the dollar when the research actually turns up a useful new drug. Please forgive me for saying this, but your assertion that Europeans are willing to endure such obvious unfairness strains credibility.
The thing is, that even though we would end up paying more taxes, we would save money by having to pay less for medicines thanks to more competition among the pharmaceutic producers. I don't see the downside. No, losing a couple of jobs to China isn't a downside, the saved money will create other jobs in Europe.
I tried looking at the numbers, but it was difficult as the stats page was slashdotted. Now it works though.
There are other ways to accomplish this, but this is a nice one.
I thought participating in the democratic process to enact change was the "other way" people always mention? If there are easier ways to do it then I'm curious to hear about them.
DirectX 10, which evidently will *only* be Vista (though I've yet to see a technological reason why it can't go into XP other than "We need a reason for you to upgrade to Vista).
The problem lies in the new display driver model in Vista, which allows GPU's to be multitasked among other things. Porting it to XP probably wouldn't be a simple task, and I think it is a valid excuse to making DX10 Vista exclusive.
Looks like slashdot is now affecting the traffic of the entire site of stats.autonomica.se.
Well, ordering illegal arrests is by definition illegal, and therefore breaking a country's laws. ;P
the US had with the Europeans over the US saving their bacon durng WWII
I would have to say that the Axis powers disagree with that sentiment. And yes, they were mostly Europeans as well. I don't know how WWII without the US would have turned out, but I very much doubt the eastern Europeans were thankful for the help the Soviets got from the US.
So, does that mean that Duke Nukem Forever will also be vista only?
Nope, by the time DNF comes out Microsoft will have dropped support for legacy OS's like Vista!
If I can get all the same news that Digg has and more from Slashdot, then why should I even care about Digg?
Haven't we heard enough of this "piracy is going to kill our economy" bullshit? Why are we focusing on this, when the our (America's) trade deficit with China is over $200,000,000,000/year (yes, that is 200 billion dollars a YEAR at the current rate). Seems to me that this piracy thing is small potatoes, in the end.
Cease your pirate propaganda, slashdotters are too smart to fall for it. There's been credible studies that have come to the conclusion that piracy costs $11,440,939,650,000 per month. In fact, unless piracy is immediately stopped, it will cost more than $132 trillion by the end of this year; your measly $200 billion is small potatoes compared to that!
build labor camps
They're already under construction, by Halliburton's trusty subsidiary Kellogg Brown & Root. Don't know about the gas chambers, killing off potential labor is a bit wasteful IMO.
A MMOG with no level cap would be pretty cool. Having a Sauron-like huge warrior that can take on an army single-handedly would be crazy, and a mage that is able to enchant incredible, almost one-of-a-kind (because only a very small percentage of players would ever reach the required level) weapons would be very popular. Obviously it would take a lot of work to make such a game, but maybe it could have instances with level-adjusted mobs or something.
And fire all the damned Keynesian economists while you're at it. It's time to get people who know about economy into government!
Don't loose any sleep over it.