If we take opportunity cost into consideration then we have to accept RIAA's claims of the same as well. As reanjr pointed out, there is the possibility of additional cost because of a possible shortage, but I do not accept "all the profit they could have made" as a loss. It could very well be that everyone in Europe suddenly decided that the DS Lite sucks and wouldn't buy one, in which case the loss is only the cost to produce the units. Opportunity cost is what the RIAA calculates when they assume that every pirated copy is a lost sale. Yes, under my calculation you would only have to pay restitution for the cost to manufacture. You would however go to jail/pay fines for stealing the good as well, which IMO should be enough of a deterrent (it's not like a person who has to resort to stealing cares about the size of possible restitutions, because he can't afford to pay them anyway).
Even if the police had a list of the serial numbers, how would that help buyers? And do you really think the cops will start inspecting every DS lite they see people carrying around?
"Very aggressively modernising"... ? hehe:-) Would you characterize the US modernization of its stockpile as aggressive too? I mean, since china hold about 200 nuclear devices opposed to the US stockpile of 10,656 the US must be VERY aggressive (following your own, rather strange, logic)
With aggressive I meant the fact that the Chinese are growing their military budget by 10% yearly. I do think the U.S. is very aggressive, but for other reasons.:)
You can't afford to be more specific, can you? What in more concrete words is so unreliable in this article you say?
Well as I said, they have their own agenda so the article is biased towards their views, which is that China is and will not be a nuclear threat, and that the U.S. could scrap their nukes.
Do you really think that this [US] country can't afford to reduce its nuclear arsenal? Are you serious?
No I don't, isn't that the whole point of modernising the nuclear weapons? To improve their survivability and thus need less nukes for the same effect? Of course it could just be a nuclear version of Divine Strake, meant for using against Iran.
What makes you think that? What kind of sane politician would use WMDs against another country if it invaded someone with conventional forces? Did your enormous nuclear arsenal scare Saddams armies off from Kuwait in '91? No. Did you use nukes agains saddam? No. Would you use nukes against saddam if he invaded, for instance Saudi Arabia too? Hardly.
You misunderstand. The deterrent is to invading the country that has nuclear weapons, the U.S. in this case. Which is also the reason the Chinese will increase the size of their arsenal. And which is the reason Iran wants nukes. I'm not actually against Iran, China etc having nuclear weapons, because it can only decrease the amount of war. Just look at India and Pakistan, after they both developed nukes, they've been forced to deal with each other peacefully instead of yet again resorting to warfare. Without nukes WW3 would already have been fought with conventional weapons, with the collapse of the west or the Soviet Union as the end result.
I asked what kind of nation poses a direct threat to the US with equal capacity in nuclear arms. You answered china. Guess what? You were wrong.
You are correct. But the planners in Pentagon would be fools not to plan further than a couple of years in the future.
P.S. I live in a European country with no nuclear arsenal at all, so I'm not drinking the Bush kool-aid.;)
Yes, a good driver architecture would help, but hey, if your video card fails, who cares if it takes your system down - your system _is_ down without video.
No, in a good architecture the system would just kill the video process and restart it. And even if it fails to restart it, I don't want my lose unsaved data because my system dies, one can always remote desktop/ssh to it and save the stuff.
Indeed, China is mostly a regional nuclear power. But we're talking long term here, and China is very aggressively modernising their military including their nuclear arsenal (which is estimated as about 100-200 warheads, they don't exactly make this info public there). The article you linked to is by a organisation that has on it's agenda nuclear disarmament, which makes their estimates of Chinese nuclear forces about as reliable as Greenpeace's estimates of the effects of pollution (look how small China's nuclear forces are, the U.S. should start scrapping nukes immediately). Also, a nuclear deterrent isn't always used against nuclear weapons, it works as a deterrent against a conventional invasion as well, so the size of Chinese nuclear forces ultimately doesn't matter at all.
Cool, now we can save huge amounts of time, and maybe use a few letters for redundancy! Now I just need to update Mike, otherwise he might crash the next time I send him files. Poor bastard, I once mistakenly said 2 instead of a 1 and he just froze until the boss came and booted him.
"On the banks of the windswept Columbia River [in Oregon], Bob Dole is working on a secret weapon in its quest to dominate the next generation of Internet computing. But it is hard to keep a secret when it is a computing center as big as two football fields, with twin cooling plants protruding four stories into the sky...' What's the goal of this new complex? Expanding Bob Dole's raw computer power. It's one more piece in the Bob Doleplex, the massive global computer network that is estimated to span 25 locations and 450,000 servers."
Hmm, my original post did seem to get a bit derailed from it's original point. But why do you think he is a madman or religious fanatic? Could not the same be said of Bush and his comments about God? I don't think either Bush nor Ahmadinejad is mad, they're just posturing.
I don't personally think there even is a terrorist problem, at least not in the scale of requiring a "war on terrorism"; my previous off-off-topic post was more about people who think that Iranians would sell nukes to terrorists, which is stupid.
File transfers are a bit slow though. Also, outsiders tend to get confused when I stand up and say: "Hey Mike, here's that file you wanted. 10101011101011010100010101010011010101010110101010 01010010101010101010101010010101110101010101101010 10101100101101010100101101011101010101101101001010 10101010010001010100101001010010100101011010101010 10100101111101010101110101010010101000001010101000 00101010010101000101010000000000000001101111111111 11010101010000000110010101010100101010010101001010 10010101010010101010010101010010101011010101010101 010010101".
It won't work on someone who is willing to sacrifice his entire country and all of his people (potentially Iran), but it'll work on everyone else.
Why do some people keep saying stupid stuff like that? Yes, Iran pretty much hates the U.S., but for good reason (the CIA staged a coup there to replace their democratic regime with a dictator). Usually people turn to terrorism for a reason, maybe the person lost his sister to an American air raid or maybe his son starved to death in the economic blockade against Iraq. Now you're a pissed off terrorist, and want to get revenge on the Americans for making your life suck; maybe even make the U.S. think twice before doing the same thing to your country/family/relatives the next time. So you grab a nuke, blow up a U.S. city, and get your country along with all your relatives turned to glass. Do you see the flaw in the logic employed by fear mongerers who warn about terrorists & nukes?
That plan worked well against the Soviet Union, but after a decade China will be able to outspend the U.S. (PPP adjusted of course, the Renmibi's artificially low exchange rate skews nominal GDP measurements).
I agree. It would be really cool to see real video (a series of photos while cool is still a far cry from color video) from the orbit of Jupiter, Mars or even Earth. I mean it shouldn't be too expensive to stick a videocamera on a probe or on to the ISS. Maybe it's a bandwidth limitation?
Yes, spend and invest it, as will the poor with their meager share. And raising the level of education is the best way to increase effectivity, which will raise the living standards for the rich and the poor. There's nothing noble in industrialisation, it's just market forces at work.
Hmm, you tell me I have no idea and then proceed to say the exact same thing I did, which is that the American public hates Bush and gives Blair disproportionate influence. Interesting.
And when he chooses to Tony Blair can have more influence over the American public than Bush...
As a European myself I have to say that's only because the American public hates Bush. To me it has always seemed as if Blair is just another Bush cronie. It doesn't really help that Britain is going along with the Iraq war and staying outside the Euro either. What I'm trying to say is that what little influence Britain may have had is disappearing fast.
It wasn't really a meteorite that hit northern Norway, it was that guys chair. He was quoted as saying "Jeg ska døde Gøøgle!" before putting on his viking helmet and hurling the chair out his window. According to the article he stated that noones sister was hit by the chair while carving her name in a rock.
Indeed. I remember watching Star Trek and laughing when the silly borg came on screen, it looked so funny when they all walked around with their fingers stuck to each other. Or was that discovery channel? I can't remember.
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If we take opportunity cost into consideration then we have to accept RIAA's claims of the same as well. As reanjr pointed out, there is the possibility of additional cost because of a possible shortage, but I do not accept "all the profit they could have made" as a loss. It could very well be that everyone in Europe suddenly decided that the DS Lite sucks and wouldn't buy one, in which case the loss is only the cost to produce the units. Opportunity cost is what the RIAA calculates when they assume that every pirated copy is a lost sale. Yes, under my calculation you would only have to pay restitution for the cost to manufacture. You would however go to jail/pay fines for stealing the good as well, which IMO should be enough of a deterrent (it's not like a person who has to resort to stealing cares about the size of possible restitutions, because he can't afford to pay them anyway).
That's RIAA logic. We don't do that here.
Even if the police had a list of the serial numbers, how would that help buyers? And do you really think the cops will start inspecting every DS lite they see people carrying around?
Eh, I don't think they stole all the black DS lites, 12k units would not be enough for the European release. :P
Agreed. Hell, one could fit Vista on one line if you want, just make it a really long one. :P
"Very aggressively modernising" ... ? hehe :-) Would you characterize the US modernization of its stockpile as aggressive too? I mean, since china hold about 200 nuclear devices opposed to the US stockpile of 10,656 the US must be VERY aggressive (following your own, rather strange, logic)
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With aggressive I meant the fact that the Chinese are growing their military budget by 10% yearly. I do think the U.S. is very aggressive, but for other reasons.
You can't afford to be more specific, can you? What in more concrete words is so unreliable in this article you say?
Well as I said, they have their own agenda so the article is biased towards their views, which is that China is and will not be a nuclear threat, and that the U.S. could scrap their nukes.
Do you really think that this [US] country can't afford to reduce its nuclear arsenal? Are you serious?
No I don't, isn't that the whole point of modernising the nuclear weapons? To improve their survivability and thus need less nukes for the same effect? Of course it could just be a nuclear version of Divine Strake, meant for using against Iran.
What makes you think that? What kind of sane politician would use WMDs against another country if it invaded someone with conventional forces? Did your enormous nuclear arsenal scare Saddams armies off from Kuwait in '91? No. Did you use nukes agains saddam? No. Would you use nukes against saddam if he invaded, for instance Saudi Arabia too? Hardly.
You misunderstand. The deterrent is to invading the country that has nuclear weapons, the U.S. in this case. Which is also the reason the Chinese will increase the size of their arsenal. And which is the reason Iran wants nukes. I'm not actually against Iran, China etc having nuclear weapons, because it can only decrease the amount of war. Just look at India and Pakistan, after they both developed nukes, they've been forced to deal with each other peacefully instead of yet again resorting to warfare. Without nukes WW3 would already have been fought with conventional weapons, with the collapse of the west or the Soviet Union as the end result.
I asked what kind of nation poses a direct threat to the US with equal capacity in nuclear arms. You answered china. Guess what? You were wrong.
You are correct. But the planners in Pentagon would be fools not to plan further than a couple of years in the future.
P.S. I live in a European country with no nuclear arsenal at all, so I'm not drinking the Bush kool-aid.
Yes, a good driver architecture would help, but hey, if your video card fails, who cares if it takes your system down - your system _is_ down without video.
No, in a good architecture the system would just kill the video process and restart it. And even if it fails to restart it, I don't want my lose unsaved data because my system dies, one can always remote desktop/ssh to it and save the stuff.
Indeed, China is mostly a regional nuclear power. But we're talking long term here, and China is very aggressively modernising their military including their nuclear arsenal (which is estimated as about 100-200 warheads, they don't exactly make this info public there). The article you linked to is by a organisation that has on it's agenda nuclear disarmament, which makes their estimates of Chinese nuclear forces about as reliable as Greenpeace's estimates of the effects of pollution (look how small China's nuclear forces are, the U.S. should start scrapping nukes immediately). Also, a nuclear deterrent isn't always used against nuclear weapons, it works as a deterrent against a conventional invasion as well, so the size of Chinese nuclear forces ultimately doesn't matter at all.
Cool, now we can save huge amounts of time, and maybe use a few letters for redundancy! Now I just need to update Mike, otherwise he might crash the next time I send him files. Poor bastard, I once mistakenly said 2 instead of a 1 and he just froze until the boss came and booted him.
"On the banks of the windswept Columbia River [in Oregon], Bob Dole is working on a secret weapon in its quest to dominate the next generation of Internet computing. But it is hard to keep a secret when it is a computing center as big as two football fields, with twin cooling plants protruding four stories into the sky...' What's the goal of this new complex? Expanding Bob Dole's raw computer power. It's one more piece in the Bob Doleplex, the massive global computer network that is estimated to span 25 locations and 450,000 servers."
This makes even more sense!
Hmm, my original post did seem to get a bit derailed from it's original point. But why do you think he is a madman or religious fanatic? Could not the same be said of Bush and his comments about God? I don't think either Bush nor Ahmadinejad is mad, they're just posturing.
I don't personally think there even is a terrorist problem, at least not in the scale of requiring a "war on terrorism"; my previous off-off-topic post was more about people who think that Iranians would sell nukes to terrorists, which is stupid.
Phear my psionic powers and pyrokinetic skillz!
Uh what? An IM client you say?
File transfers are a bit slow though. Also, outsiders tend to get confused when I stand up and say: "Hey Mike, here's that file you wanted. 10101011101011010100010101010011010101010110101010 01010010101010101010101010010101110101010101101010 10101100101101010100101101011101010101101101001010 10101010010001010100101001010010100101011010101010 10100101111101010101110101010010101000001010101000 00101010010101000101010000000000000001101111111111 11010101010000000110010101010100101010010101001010 10010101010010101010010101010010101011010101010101 010010101".
It won't work on someone who is willing to sacrifice his entire country and all of his people (potentially Iran), but it'll work on everyone else.
Why do some people keep saying stupid stuff like that? Yes, Iran pretty much hates the U.S., but for good reason (the CIA staged a coup there to replace their democratic regime with a dictator). Usually people turn to terrorism for a reason, maybe the person lost his sister to an American air raid or maybe his son starved to death in the economic blockade against Iraq. Now you're a pissed off terrorist, and want to get revenge on the Americans for making your life suck; maybe even make the U.S. think twice before doing the same thing to your country/family/relatives the next time. So you grab a nuke, blow up a U.S. city, and get your country along with all your relatives turned to glass. Do you see the flaw in the logic employed by fear mongerers who warn about terrorists & nukes?
That plan worked well against the Soviet Union, but after a decade China will be able to outspend the U.S. (PPP adjusted of course, the Renmibi's artificially low exchange rate skews nominal GDP measurements).
China.
I agree. It would be really cool to see real video (a series of photos while cool is still a far cry from color video) from the orbit of Jupiter, Mars or even Earth. I mean it shouldn't be too expensive to stick a videocamera on a probe or on to the ISS. Maybe it's a bandwidth limitation?
What will the rich and elite do with the money?
Yes, spend and invest it, as will the poor with their meager share. And raising the level of education is the best way to increase effectivity, which will raise the living standards for the rich and the poor. There's nothing noble in industrialisation, it's just market forces at work.
Hmm, you tell me I have no idea and then proceed to say the exact same thing I did, which is that the American public hates Bush and gives Blair disproportionate influence. Interesting.
And when he chooses to Tony Blair can have more influence over the American public than Bush...
As a European myself I have to say that's only because the American public hates Bush. To me it has always seemed as if Blair is just another Bush cronie. It doesn't really help that Britain is going along with the Iraq war and staying outside the Euro either. What I'm trying to say is that what little influence Britain may have had is disappearing fast.
It wasn't really a meteorite that hit northern Norway, it was that guys chair. He was quoted as saying "Jeg ska døde Gøøgle!" before putting on his viking helmet and hurling the chair out his window. According to the article he stated that noones sister was hit by the chair while carving her name in a rock.
What are you talking about? Gameplay (sadly) hasn't changed a bit in 5 years!
Indeed. I remember watching Star Trek and laughing when the silly borg came on screen, it looked so funny when they all walked around with their fingers stuck to each other. Or was that discovery channel? I can't remember.
If by powerful you mean painful, and if by orgasm you mean wound, then yes!