Yeah, yeah, there are "legitimate uses" for this thing. Right. Sure.
Of course there are. If you have 5 million recipients on your "hot sale" mailing list, and you have to get them all out before the hot sale tomorrow, you need to send at quite a high rate. You may not believe that we have 5 million people who want to receive our notices of sales and other promos, but that isn't my problem what you believe or don't believe. We do have that many, and we are straining our home-grown qmail-based CRM system to its limits trying to get the mails out in time for our customers to take advantage of sales. The IronPort A30 (small version of the appliance, about 600,000/hour instead of a million) is what we're looking at. Two of them in a load-balanced setup could be enough to replace our 15 qmail servers.
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I would be interested in reading other slashdotter's information and views on Ironport.
The Ironport SMTP appliance is very well designed for what it is supposed to do. I am not a big fan of appliances, or proprietary platforms, especially for simple services like SMTP. But it has advanced features that make me overlook the inconvenience of having to support yet another platform. It has very advanced queue management, and uses a slow-start algorithm to ramp-up the send rate so as to maximize throughput without overwhelming any single recipient mail server. It uses a pool of IP addresses, and assigns them dynamically to outgoing mails by any of several criteria such as mailing campaign, sender domain, or even a custom X-header. This is great for large operations since a dirty list from one campaign won't cause another campaign to get shut down or throttled due to the other campaign's sloppy management. It has excellent reporting and queue management tools, so you can see what the heck is going on (this is my favorite feature, too many other enterprise-class solutions fail to be transparent enough for the admin who has to run it).
I have to wonder how Ironport can justify "bulk email" support.
It's their bread-and-butter, selling dedicated high-performance SMTP appliances designed for high volume CRM systems.
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It merely provides a way of communicating with the complainant without revealing personal information that many people don't care to trust to strangers (especially those suspected of spamming)--namely his email address.
I know how Spamcop works, thank you. I use it myself. I used to reply through Spamcop, but have yet to receive a response from the Spamcop user. It's a waste of my time to deal with people who want to hide from me.
Besides, people already gave us their email address. We aren't strangers. We get their address when they buy something online from us, or explicitly sign up for our materials. We have a toll-free number and thousands of retail outlets. If people want to buy from us without giving an email address, they can call or walk up to a retail outlet. We even tell them so in the online terms of sale that they never read.
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So? If you are serious about removing me from your list, send me email through SpamCop asking for my email address.
Why should I go through the extra step? I don't respond to challenge-response requests either. I don't see the difference, really. If you want to communicate, don't obfuscate.
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According to Richter... "prior to sending solicited complaints by consumers to the Optin's originating ISP's, Spamcop alters the complaints it receives by removing the email address of the person or entity seeking to be taken off a mailing list thereby rendering the email anonymous."
I run an Abuse mailbox, and I have to agree with Richter on this point. That is why I created an ISP account at Spamcop.net for my networks and my sending domains, and specified that I do not wish to receive anonymized complaints. Spamcop tells the user submitting an unwanted email from us that we refuse anonymized complaints, and gives the user the chance to send the complaint with their email address in the clear.
Richter could do the same, and comply with the CAN-SPAM act just like me and my company does.
If the Act is not renewed and we are attacked again, the blood will be on the hands of the people that voted it down.
And if the act is renewed and we have another attack, whose hands will that blood stain? The ones who voted for it? No? But you can't have it both ways.
As long as they use your company's mail server (which should generally have an MX record, right?)
Wrong. Only SMTP servers that receive mail for a domain are listed in the MX records for that domain. Out outbound mail relays do not receive incoming mail, and so our domain's MX records do not list them. MX has nothing to do with sending mail - at all.
Still, in my particular case, I believe the benefits far outweigh the potential problems.
To be effective, any proposed spam solution has to address the vast majority of cases.
Since we do not run SpamAssassin against our own outgoing mails, this policy would cut off my company's 5000 email users. We would not list our outbound IP addresses as MX hosts because the outbound relays don't run SpamAssassin, and don't accept email from the public.
Yours is a very common idea thought up by people who only just started to think about the spam problem. No doubt you will have several more brilliant ideas that have already been shot down years ago.
Damn! And I thought *I* was a major astro-geek. I'm going to be on the island of Mauritius for the transit. I reserved my spot with one of the eclipse tour companies almost two years ago. This is my first astronomical "expedition" abroad. I will try to capture the transit in digital video straight to hard disk. I've done it for Mars and Saturn before, it works really good for that.
I'm a game developer and I'd really like to stay in business thank you.
Then develop games worth paying for.
With piracy so rampant, game developers NEVER see royalties...
You're such a lying sack. If you're an actual developer, as in programmer-for-hire, you don't get any royalties because it isn't in your contract. If you're a game devloper, as in manager of programmers-for-hire, you're the one who offered the no-royalty contract, or the highway.
Geez, if you're going to troll, please try to do it a little less transparently.
Its up to you. Buy games and support the govenment in actions like this and have a healthy game biz.
If we just buy the games and tell the government jackboots to go fuck themselves, we'll still have a healthy game biz - 'cause we're buying the friggin' games. Troll.
Read it even more carefully. The actual terms of service says they will pay you $0.25 per CPU Hour, not $1.00. I don't see anywhere in the ToS how they get the $1.00/hr figure. In other words, they flat-out lied, what a surprise.
If I am to pay anything - even a dime - then I want a hard copy on a fixed medium with no DRM encumbrances. Phillips Compact Disc Digital Audio® format (aka Red Book) is the only digital format for sale at major retail outlets - online and offline - that I know of which delivers what I am willing to pay for.
(MP3 delivers unencumbered access, but the quality is typically lower than I'd care to pay for, no matter what format or fixed media was used. The days when FM quality were acceptable for purchased music products are long gone).
Do like IBM does. Every X330-class machine we buy comes with 3 years onsite service. There are no extra support contracts to sign, no extra expenses to track, everything we want in a hardware purchase comes with the machine, one line item on the invoice for everything.
Screw the software. Solaris is little more than Oracle-OS anymore. Make the hardware easier to buy and to support.
An ancient body about the size of Mars struck the Earth in the early epoch of the solar system, knocking off a mass that eventually coalesced into our Moon.
I'd say the Earth is definitely in a Earth-like orbit even after having sustained such a large impact, so perhaps that is an answer to your question.
Also, since we can't find magenetically charged banding on the ancient Mars "ocean" floor, it suggests to me that Mars simply does have the characteristics that created large oceans like Earth does.
Actually, weak magnetic polarity bands have been discovered, but they do not correspond with the areas on Mars thought to be ancient seabeds, and they are not global. They were found in some areas of the southern highlands if my memory serves me right.
Looks like a rock outcrop to me. They plan to drive the Opportunity rover to the large crater on the horizon, and this object is on the way there. I imagine we'll get a closeup look at it, and maybe a few sols' worth of studying before the rover continues on towards the larger crater with the big outcrops beyond this object.
1. What evidence supports or rules out the presence of liquids other than H2O on the surface of Mars, at one time, in large quantities?
No evidence supports any such thing. Nothing rules it out, however, see answer to question #2.
2. How much, if any, of the present evidence could be explained by flows of liquid CO2, nitrogen, methane, ammonia, or some other liquid?
None. The chloride and bromide salts found are soluble in water, not any of those other liquids. By definition, chemical compunds classified as salts require the presence of water.
3. Which evidence, if any, points most strongly to the presence of large amounts of H2O as the liquid in question?
The presence of chloride and bromide salt deposits. They can't be formed any other way, but by precipitation from solution in water. The presence of hematite by itself is less conclusive than that, but in the presence of the salts, it adds to the certainty that water was present.
I know there are currently thought to be large, polar caps of solid H2O, but how much of the current evidence precludes the existence of large seas of some other liquid in the distant geological past?
How does the 100 Year Domain Service work? Network Solutions will register your domain name for the maximum term available at the underlying domain registry and then, as long as your domain is registered with Network Solutions, we'll add additional years to that registration on an annual basis, ensuring that your registration is always renewed until it has been registered to you for a total of 100 years of registration service from the date of your purchase.
What if Network Solutions fucks up and forgets to add additional years to my registration 30 years from now? Can I get a refund for the remaining 70 years if my name it taken? That won't happen <wink>.
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And you just thought that green tea was good to drink.
No I didn't. I thought it tasted like an industrial solvent. Looks as though I was right.
No need to wonder. The buyer is told what their email address will be used for in the terms of sale, presented to them before purchase.
Since I am posting on my behalf, and not theirs, yes, I would mind.
Yeah, yeah, there are "legitimate uses" for this thing. Right. Sure.
Of course there are. If you have 5 million recipients on your "hot sale" mailing list, and you have to get them all out before the hot sale tomorrow, you need to send at quite a high rate. You may not believe that we have 5 million people who want to receive our notices of sales and other promos, but that isn't my problem what you believe or don't believe. We do have that many, and we are straining our home-grown qmail-based CRM system to its limits trying to get the mails out in time for our customers to take advantage of sales. The IronPort A30 (small version of the appliance, about 600,000/hour instead of a million) is what we're looking at. Two of them in a load-balanced setup could be enough to replace our 15 qmail servers.
I would be interested in reading other slashdotter's information and views on Ironport.
The Ironport SMTP appliance is very well designed for what it is supposed to do. I am not a big fan of appliances, or proprietary platforms, especially for simple services like SMTP. But it has advanced features that make me overlook the inconvenience of having to support yet another platform. It has very advanced queue management, and uses a slow-start algorithm to ramp-up the send rate so as to maximize throughput without overwhelming any single recipient mail server. It uses a pool of IP addresses, and assigns them dynamically to outgoing mails by any of several criteria such as mailing campaign, sender domain, or even a custom X-header. This is great for large operations since a dirty list from one campaign won't cause another campaign to get shut down or throttled due to the other campaign's sloppy management. It has excellent reporting and queue management tools, so you can see what the heck is going on (this is my favorite feature, too many other enterprise-class solutions fail to be transparent enough for the admin who has to run it).
I have to wonder how Ironport can justify "bulk email" support.
It's their bread-and-butter, selling dedicated high-performance SMTP appliances designed for high volume CRM systems.
It merely provides a way of communicating with the complainant without revealing personal information that many people don't care to trust to strangers (especially those suspected of spamming)--namely his email address.
I know how Spamcop works, thank you. I use it myself. I used to reply through Spamcop, but have yet to receive a response from the Spamcop user. It's a waste of my time to deal with people who want to hide from me.
Besides, people already gave us their email address. We aren't strangers. We get their address when they buy something online from us, or explicitly sign up for our materials. We have a toll-free number and thousands of retail outlets. If people want to buy from us without giving an email address, they can call or walk up to a retail outlet. We even tell them so in the online terms of sale that they never read.
So? If you are serious about removing me from your list, send me email through SpamCop asking for my email address.
Why should I go through the extra step? I don't respond to challenge-response requests either. I don't see the difference, really. If you want to communicate, don't obfuscate.
According to Richter ... "prior to sending solicited complaints by consumers to the Optin's originating ISP's, Spamcop alters the complaints it receives by removing the email address of the person or entity seeking to be taken off a mailing list thereby rendering the email anonymous."
I run an Abuse mailbox, and I have to agree with Richter on this point. That is why I created an ISP account at Spamcop.net for my networks and my sending domains, and specified that I do not wish to receive anonymized complaints. Spamcop tells the user submitting an unwanted email from us that we refuse anonymized complaints, and gives the user the chance to send the complaint with their email address in the clear.
Richter could do the same, and comply with the CAN-SPAM act just like me and my company does.
If the Act is not renewed and we are attacked again, the blood will be on the hands of the people that voted it down.
And if the act is renewed and we have another attack, whose hands will that blood stain? The ones who voted for it? No? But you can't have it both ways.
No, of course not.
As long as they use your company's mail server (which should generally have an MX record, right?)
Wrong. Only SMTP servers that receive mail for a domain are listed in the MX records for that domain. Out outbound mail relays do not receive incoming mail, and so our domain's MX records do not list them. MX has nothing to do with sending mail - at all.
Still, in my particular case, I believe the benefits far outweigh the potential problems.
To be effective, any proposed spam solution has to address the vast majority of cases.
Since we do not run SpamAssassin against our own outgoing mails, this policy would cut off my company's 5000 email users. We would not list our outbound IP addresses as MX hosts because the outbound relays don't run SpamAssassin, and don't accept email from the public.
Yours is a very common idea thought up by people who only just started to think about the spam problem. No doubt you will have several more brilliant ideas that have already been shot down years ago.
Damn! And I thought *I* was a major astro-geek. I'm going to be on the island of Mauritius for the transit. I reserved my spot with one of the eclipse tour companies almost two years ago. This is my first astronomical "expedition" abroad. I will try to capture the transit in digital video straight to hard disk. I've done it for Mars and Saturn before, it works really good for that.
I'm a game developer and I'd really like to stay in business thank you.
Then develop games worth paying for.
With piracy so rampant, game developers NEVER see royalties...
You're such a lying sack. If you're an actual developer, as in programmer-for-hire, you don't get any royalties because it isn't in your contract. If you're a game devloper, as in manager of programmers-for-hire, you're the one who offered the no-royalty contract, or the highway.
Geez, if you're going to troll, please try to do it a little less transparently.
Its up to you. Buy games and support the govenment in actions like this and have a healthy game biz.
If we just buy the games and tell the government jackboots to go fuck themselves, we'll still have a healthy game biz - 'cause we're buying the friggin' games. Troll.
I have serious reservations about whether a 16 month experiment will observe what it's designed to observe.
As with CCD imagers, longer integration times with this instrument translate to higher and higher signal-to-noise ratios in the final data.
Read it even more carefully. The actual terms of service says they will pay you $0.25 per CPU Hour, not $1.00. I don't see anywhere in the ToS how they get the $1.00/hr figure. In other words, they flat-out lied, what a surprise.
If I am to pay anything - even a dime - then I want a hard copy on a fixed medium with no DRM encumbrances. Phillips Compact Disc Digital Audio® format (aka Red Book) is the only digital format for sale at major retail outlets - online and offline - that I know of which delivers what I am willing to pay for.
(MP3 delivers unencumbered access, but the quality is typically lower than I'd care to pay for, no matter what format or fixed media was used. The days when FM quality were acceptable for purchased music products are long gone).
Do like IBM does. Every X330-class machine we buy comes with 3 years onsite service. There are no extra support contracts to sign, no extra expenses to track, everything we want in a hardware purchase comes with the machine, one line item on the invoice for everything.
Screw the software. Solaris is little more than Oracle-OS anymore. Make the hardware easier to buy and to support.
We-wewease Bwian!!
An ancient body about the size of Mars struck the Earth in the early epoch of the solar system, knocking off a mass that eventually coalesced into our Moon.
I'd say the Earth is definitely in a Earth-like orbit even after having sustained such a large impact, so perhaps that is an answer to your question.
Also, since we can't find magenetically charged banding on the ancient Mars "ocean" floor, it suggests to me that Mars simply does have the characteristics that created large oceans like Earth does.
Actually, weak magnetic polarity bands have been discovered, but they do not correspond with the areas on Mars thought to be ancient seabeds, and they are not global. They were found in some areas of the southern highlands if my memory serves me right.
Looks like a rock outcrop to me. They plan to drive the Opportunity rover to the large crater on the horizon, and this object is on the way there. I imagine we'll get a closeup look at it, and maybe a few sols' worth of studying before the rover continues on towards the larger crater with the big outcrops beyond this object.
But I think it's just a rock.
1. What evidence supports or rules out the presence of liquids other than H2O on the surface of Mars, at one time, in large quantities?
No evidence supports any such thing. Nothing rules it out, however, see answer to question #2.
2. How much, if any, of the present evidence could be explained by flows of liquid CO2, nitrogen, methane, ammonia, or some other liquid?
None. The chloride and bromide salts found are soluble in water, not any of those other liquids. By definition, chemical compunds classified as salts require the presence of water.
3. Which evidence, if any, points most strongly to the presence of large amounts of H2O as the liquid in question?
The presence of chloride and bromide salt deposits. They can't be formed any other way, but by precipitation from solution in water. The presence of hematite by itself is less conclusive than that, but in the presence of the salts, it adds to the certainty that water was present.
I know there are currently thought to be large, polar caps of solid H2O, but how much of the current evidence precludes the existence of large seas of some other liquid in the distant geological past?
The salt evidence excludes the other liquids.
How does the 100 Year Domain Service work?
Network Solutions will register your domain name for the maximum term available at the underlying domain registry and then, as long as your domain is registered with Network Solutions, we'll add additional years to that registration on an annual basis, ensuring that your registration is always renewed until it has been registered to you for a total of 100 years of registration service from the date of your purchase.
What if Network Solutions fucks up and forgets to add additional years to my registration 30 years from now? Can I get a refund for the remaining 70 years if my name it taken?
That won't happen <wink>.
This is ludacris.
No, THIS is Ludacris.
The word you were looking for is ludicrous.