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Green Tea Cleans Hard Drive Heads

mprindle writes "Wired.com has an article announcing that a 'study of the use of green tea extracts for polishing the magnetic heads in hard-disk drives has yielded a compound that works three to four times faster than conventional compounds. If the findings can be reproduced in an industrial setting, the compound could reduce the cost and environmental impact of hard-drive manufacturing.' And you just thought that green tea was good to drink."

156 comments

  1. Green Tea by Jane_Dozey · · Score: 5, Funny

    I always knew green tea was meant for something other than drinking.
    It's nasty stuff.

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    1. Re:Green Tea by MoonBuggy · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Lies!
      Go to China, sit in a cafe in a bamboo forest next to a stream and have a glass of green tea. The tranquility of that is something I'm sure I'll remember for some time :-)

    2. Re:Green Tea by Pig+Hogger · · Score: 5, Funny
      Go to China, sit in a cafe in a bamboo forest next to a stream and have a glass of green tea. The tranquility of that is something I'm sure I'll remember for some time :-)
      And then have the party ruined by the communist party goons who raid the joint because someone logged-on Slashdot...
    3. Re:Green Tea by trainedCodeMonkey · · Score: 1

      ... have a glass of green tea.

      you mean have a cup of green tea, a glass is for cold beverages, an cup usually made of ceramic material is typically used for hot beverages, or as in the case of green tea...warm, but not hot. Unless your talking about ice green tea, then you would drink that in a glass.

    4. Re:Green Tea by antime · · Score: 3, Informative

      In some places (eg. Russia and Arabic countries) tea is traditionally served in glasses.

    5. Re:Green Tea by jack_csk · · Score: 1

      I am a green tea drinker, but I never know my hard drive likes the tea as well.

      By the way, does the hard drive cares which green tea? Lung ching or Jasmine tea?

    6. Re:Green Tea by kamukwam · · Score: 2, Informative

      Here in Holland you also get tea served in a glass usually

    7. Re:Green Tea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here in Sweden to.

    8. Re:Green Tea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here in Atlantis also!

    9. Re:Green Tea by Afrosheen · · Score: 1

      Jasmine tea isn't green tea at all. I have alot of Thai friends so I know a little about asian teas.

    10. Re:Green Tea by Afrosheen · · Score: 1

      In Thailand and other parts of asia, green tea is making it's way into dozens of unusual products. My wife recently returned from a business trip to Bangkok and told me about the funniest product _ever_.

      Green Tea Tampons and Green Tea Maxi Pads.

      She's going back in June, I gotta see something this asinine for myself so I told her to bring some back.

    11. Re:Green Tea by Abreu · · Score: 1

      Here in Mexico they are selling chamomille tea tampons and maxipads...

      Supposedly the chamomille extract neutralizes organic odors

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    12. Re:Green Tea by billcopc · · Score: 1

      I have alot of stupid friends so I know a little about running for president.

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    13. Re:Green Tea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You probabbly cook the leaves. You're supposed to use water that's below boiling and only brew for a couple of min, otherwise it becomes bitter.

    14. Re:Green Tea by AtomicBomb · · Score: 1

      This can be hard to find, but it is really a very enjoyable experience. For the hikers/trampers/campers around here, try to bring some tea in your next trip. Tea works best with spring water. Nothing can beat a cup of green/brown tea in a cold winter night when you are in the wild.

    15. Re:Green Tea by DAldredge · · Score: 1

      Sorry. But China has issues with people of my religion... And I do not give those killers any more of my money than I have to.

    16. Re:Green Tea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unless your talking about ice green tea

      "you're".

    17. Re:Green Tea by monkeyfinger · · Score: 1

      What kind of "green" tea do you drink in Holland? ;-)

    18. Re:Green Tea by satanami69 · · Score: 1

      Get outta here. Picard drank his tea "hot" and in a glass. Any nerd should have known this.

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    19. Re:Green Tea by trainedCodeMonkey · · Score: 1

      Picard also drank Earl Grey, which is traditionally a black tea, and not a green tea(although i have seen green varieties).

  2. one word by Neuropol · · Score: 4, Insightful

    antioxidant

    1. Re:one word by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      might as well use grape seed extract.

    2. Re:one word by Nuclear+Elephant · · Score: 1

      This will be the next revolutionary product from Billy Mays.

  3. Sssssshhhh! by TiMac · · Score: 5, Funny
    Don't let this get too publicized or all those office morons (the ones of tech support legend: CD Tray==Cupholder, etc) might start pouring their morning tea on the computer after a crash.

    This could only prompt me to ask them: One Lump or Two? [WHACK WHACK]

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    1. Re:Sssssshhhh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Oh great. Now my hard drive will be all night complaining about the caffeine buzz.

    2. Re:Sssssshhhh! by mst76 · · Score: 4, Funny

      > This could only prompt me to ask them: One Lump or Two?

      Side note: Chinese and Japanese don't drink tea with sugar.

    3. Re:Sssssshhhh! by drinkypoo · · Score: 5, Funny

      You have it backwards. Publicize the shit out of this, so people start pouring their morning tea in their computer - and thus my job security is guaranteed.

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    4. Re:Sssssshhhh! by TiMac · · Score: 3, Insightful

      my job security is guaranteed

      Lemme guess: You use and recommend Windows products to those users for the same job security reason?

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    5. Re:Sssssshhhh! by sw155kn1f3 · · Score: 3, Funny

      I, personally use and recommend Linux products for the same job security reason.

      Don't underestimate what your boss can do when you deploy few custom openldap schemes here and there, few not so obvious backups that wipe data entirely if the you didn't give the special sequence on the other hand of pipe.

      Ah.. not enough... few perl scripts I do can do even better.

      Yes, I'm BOFH, muahaha :)

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    6. Re:Sssssshhhh! by pjt33 · · Score: 1
      Who said anything about sugar?

      (Here's hoping for 3 moderators who've read The Long, Dark Teatime of the Soul)

    7. Re:Sssssshhhh! by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      Hm, I must have hallucinated all the different kinds of sugar availible at the teahouse, then.

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    8. Re:Sssssshhhh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (Here's hoping for 3 moderators who've read The Long, Dark Teatime of the Soul)

      Go Gently into that good night. Dirk Gently that is.

    9. Re:Sssssshhhh! by janiz · · Score: 1

      i guess that i am japanese or chinese then...

  4. Not in my opinion. by Slayk · · Score: 5, Funny

    And you just thought that green tea was good to drink.

    No, not really.

    1. Re:Not in my opinion. by nizo · · Score: 2, Funny

      Actually I always thought it was pretty good when added to the big pile of sugar already in my cup.

  5. Green Tea Cleaner... by zaba · · Score: 5, Funny

    And here I thought green tea was only to clean your...uh... "internal soft drives"...

    1. Re:Green Tea Cleaner... by DrLZRDMN · · Score: 5, Funny

      off topic but A friend of mine claims that xbox is a computer and gamecube isn't. He mentioned the hard drive so I told him that a hard drive is not nessecary for somehting to be considered a computer so he says "A computer must have a hard drive and a soft drive" I spat green tea all over laughing.

    2. Re:Green Tea Cleaner... by Reziac · · Score: 1

      And now I'm wondering what it's doing to my innards...

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    3. Re:Green Tea Cleaner... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Isn't it obvious?

      It simply "bind[s] readily with [ceramic particles]" in your stomach.

      And I'm sure you have loads of that.

      Wait...

    4. Re:Green Tea Cleaner... by grazzy · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      the xbox is a computer ;)

      why? it has a mobo, cpu, memory and all other general components that makes up the definition of a computer.

      a computer is just really a microprocessor with some busses + ram besides basiclly.

    5. Re:Green Tea Cleaner... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, but a gamecube is a computer too.

    6. Re:Green Tea Cleaner... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A calculator is a fucking computer. Dipshit.

    7. Re:Green Tea Cleaner... by linzeal · · Score: 1
      Green teas have been touted the world over for their health benefits. Catechin polyphenols are thought to destroy cancerous cells without damaging healthy ones, and Green and White teas both have them in abundance. Black tea has very little, but has other differing health benefits. I drink a lot of tea as an American, on the order of 10-15 cups per day with white tea being my current favorite along with detox tea. It is nice to have clear nose and lung mucus after being an ex-smoker and the yogi and triple leaf line of detox teas work pretty good at doing that after about 2 weeks of daily 2 cup usage.

      White teas offer more health benifits (they have more Catechin polyphenols) but typically cost about 20% more than green teas per ounce but should be enjoyed for the more nuanced flavors they have.

    8. Re:Green Tea Cleaner... by UncleFluffy · · Score: 1

      You might appreciate this link: Imperial Tea Court. I get all my "good" tea from there - great place, well worth stopping by in person when you're in SF.

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  6. Bio-active materials LESS polluting? by ObviousGuy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Considering that bio-active materials like green tea (yum!) decay and eventually become unusable and must be disposed of properly, doesn't it make more sense to stick with chemicals which, though bad for the environment, do not decay or degrade and can be used in a specific task indefinitely?

    Add to this the fact that landfills are full of "biodegradable" waste which because of the lack of oxygen in the area are unable to break down. It makes far more sense to go with a material which can be reused and/or recycled. Bio-degradable sometimes ain't.

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    1. Re:Bio-active materials LESS polluting? by Jane_Dozey · · Score: 2, Informative

      "Considering that bio-active materials like green tea (yum!) decay and eventually become unusable and must be disposed of properly, doesn't it make more sense to stick with chemicals which, though bad for the environment, do not decay or degrade and can be used in a specific task indefinitely?"
      I don't think they'll actually be using green tea :)
      Just any extracts from it that can do the job well (although, I hope they look into whether it'll degrade or not over time).

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    2. Re:Bio-active materials LESS polluting? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      RTFA, please, before replying.

      The conventional slurry has to be disposed also, according to strict environmental guidelines.

      Furthermore, the green tea compound is just used to wash off the ceramic particles produced during polishing.

      And I'm pretty sure that green tea biodegrades in any suitable environment, oxygen or no.

    3. Re:Bio-active materials LESS polluting? by THotze · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The problem is that the chemicals involved in any chemical reaction aren't infinately reusable. As one of the posters above noted, green tea works because it's an anti-oxidant, meaning it removes oxygen (oxides) from the hard drives. The industrial chemicals would also undergo reaction, and after so many uses, become unusable (assuming that 'so many uses' doens't mean once). While it's true that some industrial chemicals can undergo a reverse reaction relaviely easily, and therefore be 'regenerated' and reused, many cannot, and many that can are so cheap that they're disposed of anyways.

      While it's true that bio-degradABLE doesn't mean that they're bio-degradED, it does open the door. Also, its probably more environmentally friendly to PRODUCE green tea than it is for other industrial chemicals, which may produce waste products that end up in the water supply, require high temperatures and therefore require lots of energy, etc.

      So yeah, you're right that there is NEVER a magic-bullet. But if green tea is easier to produce, easier to refine, and can be broken down with a little simple composting, etc., then its a step in the right direction.

      Tim

    4. Re:Bio-active materials LESS polluting? by kfg · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It's water. Put it outside in a bucket and it simply "goes away."

      Except for a for small amount of . . .chemicals, which you may then do with as you please.

      I suggest mixing them with water and pouring it on your houseplants. They'll love you for it.

      KFG

    5. Re:Bio-active materials LESS polluting? by Almost-Retired · · Score: 1

      All very well and no doubt good for the hard drive makers, but what about the price of my fav drink in the stores? Decent stuff is high enough already, and if the drive makers buy it all up, there won't be any left for me (sniff)

      Cheers, Gene

    6. Re:Bio-active materials LESS polluting? by kencurry · · Score: 3, Interesting

      green tea works because it's an anti-oxidant, meaning it removes oxygen (oxides) from the hard drives.

      not to be pedantic, but this is not oxidation. As the original article states, the tannins bind to the tiny ceramic particles that that are unwanted on the surface. Thereby solubilizing them, allowing them to be rinsed free.

      What the article doesn't state but could have environmental impact is the ability to avoid organic solvents vs. being able to process with water. Since tannins are (mostly) water soluble, this would be another plus for this process.

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    7. Re:Bio-active materials LESS polluting? by DerekLyons · · Score: 2, Interesting
      What the article doesn't state but could have environmental impact is the ability to avoid organic solvents vs. being able to process with water. Since tannins are (mostly) water soluble, this would be another plus for this process.
      Keep in mind that tannins, being acid, are a considerable enviromental problem themselves when concentrated or present in large quantites. Just being 'natural' does not, of itself, mean that a product does not potenially constitute an enviromental hazard/problem.
    8. Re:Bio-active materials LESS polluting? by Myglaren · · Score: 1

      Absolutely, just pour it in the pot-plant. Job done!

    9. Re:Bio-active materials LESS polluting? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I wasn't sure which one of you bozos to say this to but since you are the guy who got all huffy with RTFA, I'll let Mr. Anti-Oxidant go

      RTFA!
      Although the specific ingredients in the slurries are closely guarded secrets, they typically work by attracting and containing the tiny ceramic particles that are created during the polishing process. After a certain amount of time, the slurry is washed away and disposed of according to various regulations on the chemicals that it contains.

      So you read the last sentence above and missed the one before it and the two after it?
      With the compound created by the Arizona team, the particles would be attracted by tannins in the green tea extract. The ability of tannin to bind readily with ceramics is the same principle that causes green tea to leave stains on mugs and teapots.

      Hrrumph!!! Those are probably the four most important descriptive sentences in the whole article.
    10. Re:Bio-active materials LESS polluting? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I laughed out loud at your post, and thought, "what a clever fellow".

      Then I read some of the replies... is everybody around here completely humourless or what?

      Mmmmmmm.... green tea......

  7. Re:Not good for your teeth by Chicane-UK · · Score: 1

    Er.. so obviously you've never heard of a Tea Strainer before.. its just like a sieve but smaller :)

    Much how like Seinfeld said that drinking coffee results in having a lot of accessories to go with it, tea drinkers have similar accessories :)

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  8. green tea? by gusmao · · Score: 5, Funny

    If green tea is all that good, just imagine when they try beer!

    1. Re:green tea? by beckerie · · Score: 0

      If green tea is all that good, just imagine when they try beer!

      I don't want to know about it if they do. Green tea cleanses the insides, beer doesn't.

    2. Re:green tea? by kfg · · Score: 1

      Shhhhhhhhhh, that's the secret I'm using to perfect making platters out of wood.

      KFG

    3. Re:green tea? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They did, the hard drvies started wobbling and spitting out random insults.

  9. Wikipedia on green tea by jsinnema · · Score: 4, Informative
    1. Re:Wikipedia on green tea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Wikipedia on karma whoring

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karma_whoring

    2. Re:Wikipedia on green tea by drinkypoo · · Score: 1, Funny

      Please, next time don't post as an AC. I want to add you to my friends list.

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    3. Re:Wikipedia on green tea by JeanPaulBob · · Score: 2, Funny

      Please, next time don't post as an AC. I want to add you to my friends list.

      OK. This is really me again, not some karma-whoring credit-stealing bastard.

      Really.

    4. Re:Wikipedia on green tea by Doomrat · · Score: 0, Offtopic
      Please, next time don't post as an AC. I want to add you to my friends list.

      OK. This is really me again, not some karma-whoring credit-stealing bastard.

      Really.
      I'm Anonymous Coward and so's my wife!

      And it was me, seriously. It would have been way too hypocritical to have posted such a joke and reap any karma from it, see.
    5. Re:Wikipedia on green tea by drinkypoo · · Score: 1
      You don't get karma from being moderated funny. For this reason, those who would like people to get karma for their jokes should probably consider using the "Underrated" moderation option.

      I'll just wait until the next time, since no one but slashdot knows who posted a given AC comment. :)

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  10. So? by Limecron · · Score: 5, Funny

    What does this have to do with the price of tea in China?!

    Oh... umm... Nevermind.

  11. Wrong date! by rcotran · · Score: 2, Funny

    Aren't these stories supposed to be for *April* 1st? :)

  12. Bad reporting by Cryogenes · · Score: 2, Informative

    There appears to be an innovation that may make HD production more efficient. So far so good. How is this made more relevant by the fact that it involves a chemical compount also found in green tea?

    1. Re:Bad reporting by RollingThunder · · Score: 1

      Green tea is a material the Average Joe has experience with (ok, not all that average, but any west coaster who likes sushi knows it well).

      That means it has more personal relevance/significance. Sure, they could just rattle off the chemical compound, but that wouldn't connect with the readers. This makes it a "hey, neat" story.

    2. Re:Bad reporting by 2nd+Post! · · Score: 1

      Anyone can grow green tea without polluting the environment?

      It therefore might be quite economical *and* environmentally sound to use green tea as the source for said compound?

      That's like saying it's irrelevant that *paper* comes from trees. Yeah, so paper uses cellulose, and trees contain cellulose, but why is that relevant?

    3. Re:Bad reporting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's relevant because what if the industrial waste from this prcess got into the groundwater? Then we'd all be drinking green tea. It's just one more way that the asians are taking over everything. First they take our jobs then they make us absorb their culture. What's next, pour wasabi into the rivers? Dear God, won't any one think of the children?

  13. Re:one word - antioxidant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    might as well use coke.

  14. They should try hemp by lildogie · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yeah, hemp, it's good for "heads."

    1. Re:They should try hemp by dmaxwell · · Score: 1

      From what I understand, they might as well smoke oregano. Hemp grade cannabis contains very little THC and one would have to smoke a LOT of it to feel any effect.

    2. Re:They should try hemp by tunabomber · · Score: 1

      I don't think he wasn't talking about smoking hemp, but rather referring to the fact that it can be made into hats.

      Groovy.

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  15. this is what happens when by dncsky1530 · · Score: 2, Funny

    computer repair people drink tea.

    1. Re:this is what happens when by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I went to the store, and they did not have any no tea available, so I was forced to settle for the next best thing.

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  16. Well! by SeaDour · · Score: 2, Funny

    Next thing you know, they'll be telling us green tea is good for your HEALTH, too.

  17. Imagine what it does to your insides! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    mouth-clean
    throat- clean
    digestive tract - clean
    nasal cavity - clean if not swallowed properly.
    teeth - green.

  18. are you sure it was green tea extract? by linux_author · · Score: 1

    - there's a big lobby in the Midwest pushing for legalization and legimate use of an untapped cash crop... maybe another use here? :-)

  19. old news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    they have bee cleaning hard drives in china with green tea for a thousand years...

    1. Re:old news by JamieF · · Score: 3, Funny

      Thank goodness. I was really getting tired of finding that people had written "WASH ME" in the pollen that's all over my bees.

      I'm curious to see how a hard drive can clean a bee, though.

  20. My BS meter just tripped by 99Percent · · Score: 2, Funny

    I think this is a joke, some kind of May Fools day.

  21. for best results, use... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Temple of Heaven brand china green tea "Special Gunpowder". Best way to make sure RIAA or FBI can't get your data! Good taste too! You drink now!

    1. Re:for best results, use... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean because of the jurisdictional fight between the FBI and the ATF? The RIAA aren't a law enforcement entity. At best, they're mafia wannabes. At worst, they should be investigated as an organzed crime organization.

  22. hello, China? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Thats right... All the tea!

    (family guy, for the ones without humor)

  23. Prices... by LaBlueCow · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So, perhaps if production is cheaper (I bet tea is cheaper than chemical compunds), then maybe HDD prices will drop a bit? Or maybe margins will increase for PC part sales. Bah.

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  24. antistrontidant? by Gropo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When I visited the U.S.S.R. in 1988 our assigned 'tour propagandist' in Samarkand, Uzbekistan informed us that the green tea was drunk in part to prevent strontium-90 poisoning. gg Communist science bureau!

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    1. Re:antistrontidant? by TildaBang · · Score: 5, Interesting

      This is true. If overbrewed, the tea tannins will attatch to the strontium-90, and pass through your system, instead of it being depositied into your bones because of the likeness to calcium.

    2. Re:antistrontidant? by drew_kay · · Score: 1

      There is actually some basis in fact for Green Tea's ability to help with radiation poisoning.

      Green Tea and other forms are high in anti-oxidants which fight oxidation of the various enzymes, proteins, etc. Oxidation of these things leads to health related problems caused by malformed enzymes etc.

      Nuclear Radiation, even radiation in general, is one of the causes of oxidation, and because tea fights it, tea is to an extent capable of keeping ones body healthy while being bombarded by radiation.

      Now I'm not saying that drinking lots of Green Tea will let you walk around Chernobyl safely, but it will help reverse some of the damage if you do get inadvertently exposed.

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    3. Re:antistrontidant? by ChronoWiz · · Score: 1

      In Capitalist America, the green tea drinks you!

  25. My computer is l33t! by blair1q · · Score: 1

    3.3 GHz CPU
    2.0 GB HD with SFGTFOP1 polished heads...

  26. Now we can have a HDD Cleaning Ceremony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    And charge a fortune for the privilege!

    Of course one will have to be trained in the art of HDD Cleaning Ceremony by being taken on as an apprentice.

    Oh HDD-Cleaning-Master san, when can I clean my own HDDs?

    First you must learn the art of Master and Slave settings only then can you learn the art of HDD Cleaning.

  27. Re:Why not Earl Grey??? by dhanes · · Score: 5, Informative
    Japanese Green Tea, from the Camillia Sinensis plant , has been steamed, hand-rolled and dried to prevent oxidation .

    This process is gentler to the components that make green tea such a wonderful beverage. Earl Grey, Ceylon, Bo Lei, and whatever other brown or black tea have been pan-fried or dry-heated to stop the natural oxidation process.

    Steaming preserves the EGCG , which is being studied for it's anti-bacterial and cancer fighting properties, and also L-Theanine , which gives real green tea it's flavour and purportedly induces Alpha waves and tranquility in the brain.

    Ounce per ounce, Steamed green tea contains more polyphenols than red wine or grape seed extract.

    I have an anxiety problem, and had to swear off coffee a few years ago. No caffeine in any form for me, until I stumbled upon japanese green tea. All tea contains caffeine , but it is about 1/2 the amount in the same serving of coffee. The added benefit of the L-Theanine practically cancels out the effect of caffeine on the body and in the brain.

    I start the day with a cup of thin matcha (do two of these and can you say "420"?) , then a cup of Gyokuro and in the evening some nice genmai cha.

    Unfortuneatly, green tea is only harvested 4 times per year in Japan. Green tea is very perishiable, and is best when fresh. The bags you can purchase in asian groceries here in the U.S. of A. have been sitting on shelves too long and taste like crap. (Bonus note: all the decaffeinated 'green' teas you can purchase in regular supermarkets will not taste like the real thing, pretty bitter and bland. There is no decaffeinating process that doesn't kill all the good things about green tea. Fresh green tea is naturally sweet and not bitter when prepared correctly.)

    Interested? I purchase all my teas from here.

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  28. Doesn't green tea have antiviral properties? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    That could really help with hard drives.

  29. You insensitive clod ... by kabz · · Score: 1

    ... I'm allergic to tea.

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  30. regular or decaf? by whovian · · Score: 3, Funny

    Does regular or decaffeinated matter?

    On a humorous note, will caffeinated green tea make the hard drive faster?

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  31. Sleep mode? by 2.246.1010.78 · · Score: 2, Funny

    But wouldn't the teeine prevent the hd from going into sleep mode?

  32. This is old news by Spatula+Sam · · Score: 2, Funny

    but I've found that I can actually get better results by soaking my hard drive overnight in coca-cola.

  33. Good to drink? by Lispy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "And you just thought that green tea was good to drink."

    Actually I always thought it tastes like dishwater. Good to see it might at least be of some use. ;-)

    1. Re:Good to drink? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dishwater?

    2. Re:Good to drink? by Lispy · · Score: 1

      Err, german here. i meant the water that's left when you wash the dishes. Isn't it called "dishwater?" And if not, why did I get a +3 Insightful?? ;-)

    3. Re:Good to drink? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know what you meant, I was just wondering if you really knew what dishwater tasted like! :-)

  34. Jumping to conclusions regarding pollution by XavierItzmann · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Some here are jumping to the conclusion that this will pollute less.

    Until somebody spends another $1 million of our taxes (read: NSF grant) in doing the net impact calculation, consider this:

    1. More land dedicated to grow green tea = less uncultivated land, less *nature*, as they say

    2. Fertilizer & pesticide for green tea, and all of the petrochemicals that went into it

    3. Fuels and other energies used to sow, harvest, clean, store & transport green tea

    4. Chemical processes to refine bioactive compounds out of the tea itself

    And I have not even mentioned the fuels used to create the wealth that is going to get taxed in order to pay for the agricultural subsidies that (of course!) are eventually going to be given to growers of green tea.

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  35. Sounds bogus... by mtrupe · · Score: 3, Insightful

    sounds like one of those stupid John C. Dvorak articles that are supposed to be funny bet aren't.

  36. Totally organic experience by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I use green tea extracts for washing my head all the time!

  37. Re:Doh! by slickwillie · · Score: 2, Funny

    I should have RTFA first.

  38. Oh, great. by MajorG17 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now they'll come out with a whole line of holistic tech support.

    "Coming Soon -- a new Ginko Biloba extract to double your RAM!"

  39. Re:Why not Earl Grey??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey, thank you for a very useful post. I undoubtedly have no idea how green tea is supposed to taste, and I will definitely try your source for tea.

  40. Good to drink? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    >> And you just thought that green tea was good to drink."

    It is?

    And don't let your friends see you hanging around the Celestial Seasonings tea section at the grocer's....

  41. Magnetic cores by retro128 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Reminds me this story that my dad told me, who's worked on big systems back in the 50's and 60's working as an aerospace employee, back when they were still using magnetic cores. They had been having major problems with the core overheating. Somehow, and don't ask me how, they figured out that Wildroot Cream Oil was the perfect coolant, and the core worked like a charm from then on.

    Guess they figured it out in much the same way they figured out green tea cleans heads really well!

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    -R
  42. Anticalcidant by dwbassett42 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    And the tannic acid also has the wonderful ability of leaching the calcium from your bones, and impairing the body's iron absorption. After living in Japan for 3+ years, where they drink green tea like we drink soda pop, I saw thousands of grandmas that had osteoporosis so bad that their upper spine could't go above parallel with the ground.

    So for green tea, we know that it:

    1) Contains chemicals that are effective in cleaning hard drives,
    2) Contains tannic acid, which can cause calcium and iron deficiencies, AND is used in softening animal hides,
    3) Contains caffiene, which has many health side-effects, even more numerous than tannic acid.

    I don't see why anyone would want to drink this stuff!

    1. Re:Anticalcidant by Afrosheen · · Score: 1

      Once again we learn the lesson of intake in moderation. Too much of a good thing is a bad thing.

      BTW another side effect of tannins, in people with Marfan's syndrome, is the increase in frequency and severity of migraine headaches. Teas aren't the only drinks high in tannins..your favorite red wines may have alot as well.

    2. Re:Anticalcidant by InadequateCamel · · Score: 1

      Many anions we ingest have the ability to chelate ions such as calcium, and most of the food we eat has some pretty eye-raising stuff in it.

      Next time you eat some Cheerios, look in the ingredients for trisodium monophosphate. Some of you will recognize that as TSP, a rather potent cleaner. Now I eat Cheerios all the time. Last I checked my stomach is OK, and my bones don't seem too fragile!

      Never mind all the sugar that we eat, which leads to diabetes and the myriad medical problems associated with that. You can compile a list of nasty facts for everything we eat; it's just a matter of quantity and degree.

  43. Reading and tea leaves by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Does this mean we can do away with the hard drive SMART technology and read those tea leaves instead, to predict when the hard drive will fail?

  44. Good to drink? by kindbud · · Score: 0, Redundant

    And you just thought that green tea was good to drink.

    No I didn't. I thought it tasted like an industrial solvent. Looks as though I was right.

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  45. It means by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    those slant-eye gooks will take over the green tea market and control the US technology sector. motherfucker, we need to invade bejing and kill those dogeaters before they take over the Land of Liberty.

  46. Stephenson says... by cei · · Score: 3, Interesting

    In his interview at Salon a couple weeks ago, Neal Stephenson wrote, "Every culture can be kind of defined by what they drink in order to avoid dying of diarrhea. In China it's tea. In Africa it's milk or animal blood. In Europe it was wine and beer."

    I didn't realize the same would apply to hard drive cleaning...

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    1. Re:Stephenson says... by ErikZ · · Score: 1

      American culture is defined by Pepto-Bismol?

      Huh.

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    2. Re:Stephenson says... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      think about it. American culture is defined by overdesigned pink goopy shit. It makes sense, really.

  47. green tea benefits for hardware heh by Man+in+Spandex · · Score: 1, Funny

    Green tea has so much health benefits (we all know about it) so now the scientists decided "hey... we're out of compound, lets try green tea!" and HURRAY! it does wonders on hardware also. is there anything tea can't do?

  48. Green tea for your hard drive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    What's next? A high colonic for your power supply?

  49. In other news ... by marvinalone · · Score: 1

    ... you can use your old motor oil to fertilize your lawn!

  50. Cleansing Foods by HenchmenResources · · Score: 1

    So you can use cola to clean your car engine and now green tea for your hard drive. . . no wonder I have an ulcer, next a study will show that doritos can take out hard to clean stains. . . ah well green tea anyone?

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  51. Priceless... by atomic-penguin · · Score: 2, Funny

    Forty Green Tea bags from local Dollar Store, $1.

    Five or six large capacity hard drives, $1,000.

    Recieving a $100,000 grant from the National Science Foundation to fund the project, priceless...

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    1. Re:Priceless... by ColaMan · · Score: 1

      I'd hardly call a net $98,999 profit priceless , especially seeing that it's ,er, a price.

      You should have phrased your joke in the timeworn underpants-gnome style, thus:

      1. Get green tea and hard drives
      2. ????
      3. PROFIT!

      You could even say,"OMG! Step 2 finally revealed!!" and substitute step 2 above with:
      2. Recieve a $100,000 grant from NSF.

      The possibilites are endless!

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  52. been scooped by bodrell · · Score: 1

    Wired got scooped on this by a couple days by The New Scientist, if you want to read about it there.

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  53. Damn... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...now my green tea is going to go up in price. Looks like I'll have to drink it even weaker than I do now.

  54. Re: hazardous materials by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You'd make a great lawyer for a lobby group.

    You can make just about anything sound dangerous with enough creative context. The Dihydrogen Monoxide schtick hazardous materials report makes the rounds fairly regularly.

    Let's look at a popular North American beverage, Cola (insert your favorite brand):

    1) Contains a chemical mixture that is used as an effective vaginal hygeine douche.

    2) Contains Phosphoric acid, which has been known to cause decalcification of teeth, which coupled with the carbonation can result in dry socket and/or tooth loss.

    "3) Contains caffiene, which has many health side-effects, even more numerous than tannic acid."

    4) Contains Dihydrogen Monoxide -- Don't get me started on how dangerous that stuff is.

    All points are more or less true, but point #1 alone should be enough reason

  55. Feeling good for a moment, suffering a lifetime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There are many things one can do which are tranquil, or feel good, even feel orgasmically good, but which result in reducing one's life to a few short years of suffering. Having a drink beside a stream in a bamboo forest is undoubtedly tranquil and refreshing. But it doesn't mean green tea is as good for you as it is for the smoothness of magnetic heads of hard drives.

  56. Beer doesn't work by Julien+Brub · · Score: 2, Funny
    I accidentaly poured a complete beer in a laptop... yeah, those things appends. It was ruined... The beer poured in was cold, but it was hot when it came out... I guess it touched some hot part of the laptop...

    I also droped my Palm in a coffee... but it still works. Thanks Ford my coffee was not too hot...

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  57. Re: hazardous materials by cemaco · · Score: 1

    1) Contains a chemical mixture that is used as an effective vaginal hygeine douche. Nope. You hurt my little brain with that one so I just had to look it up. http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/sperm.asp

  58. Re:Doh! by Cornelius+Chesterfie · · Score: 2, Funny

    "I should have RTFA first."

    I won't have that kind of talk in here, young mister!

  59. Heh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well it sorta makes sense in a, I just got beat over the head, drunk from a coma not quite kind of way. "pure" tea is a modest cleaner for fabric, theirfor expenisive plastic shit (aka a HDD) is ok to clean with tea. Well at least it smells 1000000000000000 times better than that shit some idjut at WorstBuy had me get.

  60. The cleaning power of tea by DrDNA · · Score: 4, Interesting

    In Chinese restaurants, waiters pour a bit of the leftover tea onto the table to clean it. They say it works much better than plain water. Ho gon-jeng! (very clean)

    1. Re:The cleaning power of tea by ross.w · · Score: 1

      You mean the tea they didn't already spill all over the table using one of those long spout teapots?

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  61. Re:one word - antioxidant by FaasNat · · Score: 1

    Actually, Coke is not the "wonder drink" it's been made out to be. On Mythbusters (Discovery channel), it was disproved that coke can degrease an enginer, tenderize meat, and some other stuff.

    However, it is a great drink!

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    There's never enough when you have too little
  62. Regarding green tea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You make it sound as if green tea was some specific and specialized plant, different from all other teas.

    It's not.

    Green tea is simply tea leaves that have been dried without being oxidized or fermented. And considering that tea for human consumption is only taken from the top parts of the leaves of a tea tree, if they start gathering leaves from the less desirable parts, everybody wins.

  63. Re:one word - antioxidant by Terminal+Saint · · Score: 1

    no no, they want to clean them, not distroy them.

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  64. Gunpowder tea by Stephen+Samuel · · Score: 1

    There was some poor sod after 9/11 (I think thie was in England). He had a package of Gunpowder Tea, and they wouldn't let him take it on the airplane for fear that it might be explosive. They did, however, finally relent, and let him take it on but without the package. It was one of the candidates for stupidest security measures.

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  65. So tell me now.... by Stephen+Samuel · · Score: 1
    What has this got to do with the price of tea in China??

    Oh, never mind.

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  66. Re:Moderators on crack again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1. More land dedicated to grow green tea = less uncultivated land, less *nature*, as they say

    *That* much more green tea would need to be grown, for this special purpose...? Pretty unlikely. More so to be repurposed from, say, somebodys' last-year-unprofitable potato field, or whatever.

    2. Fertilizer & pesticide for green tea, and all of the petrochemicals that went into it

    Um, you can grow plants with chicken shit, if you want to. Works really well. Pesticides too, if you want, can be non-petrochemical (while I have no idea whether green tea, not for human consumption, is a high-pesticide-requirement crop or not; am pretty sure you have no idea either.)

    While no petrochemicals are used in producing other cleansers, of course.

    3. Fuels and other energies used to sow, harvest, clean, store & transport green tea

    Unlike other cleaners, which require no fuel to produce, store, and transport.

    4. Chemical processes to refine bioactive compounds out of the tea itself

    Ditto

    And I have not even mentioned the fuels used to create the wealth that is going to get taxed in order to pay for the agricultural subsidies that (of course!) are eventually going to be given to growers of green tea.

    This is just silly. Insightful? Sheesh. Would think it's a joke, were it funny; must be a troll.

    Seriously, did ya actually think about the content of what was said, or did it just sound kinda impressive and pseudo-scholarly...?

    Besides, in general if you're against agricultural subsidies then finding industrial uses for plants is a Good Idea. For instance consider the timber and paper industry. Plants-->industrial products, without agricultural subsidies.

  67. Re:Not good for your teeth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I polish my head daily.

  68. One month too late by Baby+Duck · · Score: 1

    It's May 1st. Not April 1st.

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  69. Good BOFH stuff by Sri+Lumpa · · Score: 1


    Caller: My computer doesn't work, I can't find my files.

    BOFH: Humn, yes, the problem is that your hard drive needs cleaning. So here is what you are gonna do: Take some green tea...

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  70. Re:Why not Earl Grey??? by dhanes · · Score: 1
    And thank You for the mod :)

    I'm still not entirely clear how moderating works, (and I'm on my 2nd round of being able to moderate) but if you splurged all of your points to be able to give me 5, you rock!

    I'm mulling the idea that you might be an editor, if the above assumption of points is true and the fact that I went from bad karma to positive :)

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  71. Your .sig? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Shouldn't that be

    According to Larry Niven, Freeman Dyson had no trouble believing in the ringworld

    or maybe:

    Freeman Dyson (Freeman Dyson!) had no trouble believing in the Ringworld --Larry Niven (cite)

    Unattributed quotes make you look weak, dude. Some of us read.