Most likely, it'll just end up with them getting better offers from Microsoft and other companies
Which, incidentally, is the real news here. Did you notice the shift? A couple of years ago they'd just shrug it off, now a government migrating to Linux is credible enough to seriously consider.
I've run Linux machines (for short periods of time, with no more than normal desktop use loads) without any swap, and they work fine... but when you hit that wall of running out of physical RAM you'll feel it a lot more without swap than you would with a swap file/partition.
Nope. unless you have a separate swap disk, it won't help you much. Of course this depends on the workflow, the amount of RAM, and the actual memory needed. If you need 2x the available RAM, and use all of it heavily, it will grind to a halt whatever you do.
However, if you only need +20% sometimes, it's not worth it.
P.S. I'm actually looking for a way to get Linux to use all my RAM for something useful.
You need to give your customers what they want, but not necessarily what they ask for. There is often a very gulf between the two, and unless your customers are professional designers they are very likely to mistake one for the other.
Holy shit that is SO true. If they always get what they ask for, they won't enjoy the game. Nobody enjoys a game they always win.
What you need is an optimum: when they win just slightly more than they lose. Instead of a hint button, you could allow them to give up on, say, 3 of 50 levels and move to the next one. Being limited, the level-skip feature becomes a new aspect of the game, and not just an outside cheat. Say, if you want to beat your high score, you don't skip the level worth the most points. If it's time, you skip the slowest level etc.
It may do this to prevent TLB misses but, certainly not to lessen the impact of swapping (which for an average desktop linux user is almost non-existent).
Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. Like all encyclopediae, it cannot be taken as a primary source of information. Der Spiegel is not a scholarly journal, either. It also cannot be taken as a primary source of information.
Shall we go even further? You are also no scholarly journal. Me neither.
You can get far by sticking to the lowest-common-denominator set of features... but I think the shell is seriously limited in terms of providing a stable set of features across platforms - the set of commands can vary wildly across distributions or OSes, and the shell itself doesn't provide any means to deal with that problem. I'd really like to find a good solution to that...
Simpler than that; use Darwinian natural selection. Simply invent a machine the size and shape of a jet-aircraft which zooms around airports emitting loud jet turbine noises, and sucks in and shreds any bird not conditioned to keep well away from such stimuli. Rinse and repeat.
If it worked, we wouldn't have this discussion.
Too many birds, too few aircrafts, too slow evolutionary cycle. Maybe in 100 years we'll start seeing something like that.
Apple has a history of virtually 100% secure operating systems, especially OS X that is going on almost a decade without a single virus or worm.
FTFA:
In 2007, New York-based security researcher Dino Dai Zovi teamed up with Shane Macaulay to hijack a MacBook Pro via a flaw in Apple's QuickTime software. A year later, hacker Charlie Miller needed just two minutes to exploit a Safari bug to win that contest.
Mars, ever eager to fight, aims right the fuck back.
Just say the magic word: K'Breel.
Stage 1 complete.
Doh! Parent was obviously talking about installing Gentoo ;-)
No, I'm still compiling.
Oblig.
Microsoft are within their right to no longer sell XP if they wish
Yes they are. But they're not doing that. They're forcing their new product, knowing it's crap, and then offer XP.
Update for Windows XP (KB959252)
Install this update to resolve an issue in which you receive a 0x0000008e Stop error after you install security update KB954211 (MS08-061).
2/6/2009
That's not my definition of "archaic", sorry.
Most likely, it'll just end up with them getting better offers from Microsoft and other companies
Which, incidentally, is the real news here. Did you notice the shift? A couple of years ago they'd just shrug it off, now a government migrating to Linux is credible enough to seriously consider.
Stage 1 complete.
and read it or not, clicking agree means that you agree.
No, it means I'm annoyed with the dialog box and want it to go away.
Are those numbers from a freshly booted or mostly idle system?
On a longer running system, you'd expect to see more of that free space used for buffers.
It's mostly idle in the sense I'm only browsing on it. I spiced it up for you:
top - 16:26:09 up 3:36, 2 users, load average: 4.23, 4.03, 2.09
Tasks: 142 total, 5 running, 116 sleeping, 0 stopped, 21 zombie
Cpu(s): 82.7%us, 16.3%sy, 0.0%ni, 0.2%id, 0.7%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.2%si, 0.0%st
Mem: 3104668k total, 1606068k used, 1498600k free, 124236k buffers
Swap: 0k total, 0k used, 0k free, 978904k cached
Still no need for swap with two ebuilds running.
3. Mobile carriers want to be able to enact anti-competitive measures (SIM locking) and/or screw consumers (disabling software features).
Fuck them. Don't you guys have govt regulations that say something about this?
Pff, he must be one of those communists. How can the free market and private property possibly survive if people are allowed to own what they buy?
The weird thing is, you hear these things from The Land Of The Free(tm). Meanwhile in communist China...
would you buy the frivolous electronic gadgets you are manufacturing now
Hands up anyone who wants to buy something from any of their former workplaces. I sure as hell know I don't.
I've run Linux machines (for short periods of time, with no more than normal desktop use loads) without any swap, and they work fine... but when you hit that wall of running out of physical RAM you'll feel it a lot more without swap than you would with a swap file/partition.
Nope. unless you have a separate swap disk, it won't help you much. Of course this depends on the workflow, the amount of RAM, and the actual memory needed. If you need 2x the available RAM, and use all of it heavily, it will grind to a halt whatever you do.
However, if you only need +20% sometimes, it's not worth it.
P.S. I'm actually looking for a way to get Linux to use all my RAM for something useful.
You need to give your customers what they want, but not necessarily what they ask for. There is often a very gulf between the two, and unless your customers are professional designers they are very likely to mistake one for the other.
Holy shit that is SO true. If they always get what they ask for, they won't enjoy the game. Nobody enjoys a game they always win.
What you need is an optimum: when they win just slightly more than they lose. Instead of a hint button, you could allow them to give up on, say, 3 of 50 levels and move to the next one. Being limited, the level-skip feature becomes a new aspect of the game, and not just an outside cheat. Say, if you want to beat your high score, you don't skip the level worth the most points. If it's time, you skip the slowest level etc.
It may do this to prevent TLB misses but, certainly not to lessen the impact of swapping (which for an average desktop linux user is almost non-existent).
Does an average user even need swap?
Mem: 3104668k total, 792964k used, 2311704k free, 39596k buffers
Swap: 0k total, 0k used, 0k free, 439492k cached
Usenet probably counts as a cache under section 512(b) of the DMCA; as long as ISPs process takedown notices correctly they have no liability.
alt.binaries.takedownnotices?
Rebooting is a chore.
Yeah, have it crash randomly.
They're assimilating children to make them smart enough to use their products? MONSTERS!
No, they're dumbing the poor children down.
Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. Like all encyclopediae, it cannot be taken as a primary source of information. Der Spiegel is not a scholarly journal, either. It also cannot be taken as a primary source of information.
Shall we go even further? You are also no scholarly journal. Me neither.
There is no truth. All hail Eris!
You can get far by sticking to the lowest-common-denominator set of features... but I think the shell is seriously limited in terms of providing a stable set of features across platforms - the set of commands can vary wildly across distributions or OSes, and the shell itself doesn't provide any means to deal with that problem. I'd really like to find a good solution to that...
Python. Shell was never meant to be portable.
Simpler than that; use Darwinian natural selection. Simply invent a machine the size and shape of a jet-aircraft which zooms around airports emitting loud jet turbine noises, and sucks in and shreds any bird not conditioned to keep well away from such stimuli. Rinse and repeat.
If it worked, we wouldn't have this discussion.
Too many birds, too few aircrafts, too slow evolutionary cycle. Maybe in 100 years we'll start seeing something like that.
Signatures are bullshit to begin with. We already know your username, you don't have to put your stamp on every post of yours. You are not special.
You look at usernames?
Also, there is an option to turn sigs off, you know.
I am starting to get worries that it will get strongly labeled as Communist/Socialist.. now that China,Russia,and Cuba have all officially adopted it.
Since when do americans care what the rest of the world does?
Go for the eyes, Boo!
Apple has a history of virtually 100% secure operating systems, especially OS X that is going on almost a decade without a single virus or worm.
FTFA:
In 2007, New York-based security researcher Dino Dai Zovi teamed up with Shane Macaulay to hijack a MacBook Pro via a flaw in Apple's QuickTime software. A year later, hacker Charlie Miller needed just two minutes to exploit a Safari bug to win that contest.
Danke schön.
AFAIK there are no laws on the books requiring ISPs to treat all traffic equally
Umm.. "Common carrier"?
I heard that's also why they can't be sued if the user downloads kiddy porn.