My college's anti-getting-their-ass-sued-by-the-RIAA propaganda has already melted the minds of a lot of people around here to thinking that any kind of file sharing, regardless of content, is illegal.
Agreed. As a new college freshman, I've met plenty of people who had BitTorrent on their computer and deleted it as to avoid any lawsuits. I figure keeping a copy of Transmission on-hand is fine so long as I don't go downloading illegal stuff.
wow, you didn't educate them?
This is how ignorance leads to government license to criminalize things (as in cold hard time)
overages are by far the most abusive portion of mobile contract plans.
A phone bill with overages will more often than not be composed of greater than 50% overage charges.
The fact that the government is even allowing them to even suggest caps is ludicrous on its face, but moderate slowdowns (rather than the extreme cuts to dialup I hear about in australia and britain) are the way to do this kind of thing if you want to be fair about it.
Telstra provides the pipe leases to all the ISP's.. at stupidly high rates, resulting in those annoying (explative deleted)s which invade every slashdot thread talking about how "awesome" regressing back 2 decades to metered internet is.
It doesn't cost substantially more to push data across longer distances beyond the initial investment which you claim has already been expended properly.
wooo the HORROR.. a few more boosting stations in the US than japan.
The bandwidth doesn't cost anything more than the cost of upkeep on the network because of peering agreements.
finally, a fiber cable is a fiber cable is a fiber cable.. the "advancements" in capacity have been in the control units, not the cable itself.
once again.. a minimal outlay to increase capacity exponentially which your cash grabbing overlords don't want to put into place.
An entirely sensible business model is to give X bandwidth for $Y dollars up to Z bytes per month, and then charge overage fees when the user goes beyond Z bytes per month.
what obvious astroturfing by an ISP rep out to turn ISP's into cellphone carriers.
The real sensible model would be to offer services at X speed for Y dollars a month, and when they hit a predetermined cap, they move to half of X speed.
This would enforce "polite sharing" without gouging customers or destroying the "high speed" of high speed internet.
going from 6 megabits to 3 megabits won't impact normal web browsing, gaming, or IM, only heavy-bandwidth transfers.
If calculated properly, people would be mathematically unable to exceed a hard data cap.
We have made progress from the early 90's "by the piece at 4k" to now "unlimited at 6 meg".
I wouldn't call a shift in local calling plans from unlimited local for 24 bucks a month to a byzantine cellular-esque plan "progress".
they need to upgrade their infrastructure to meet the times, not start regressing us back to the stone age!
The other side of net neutrality is the spirit behind it: promoting innovation by assuring open access. Billing by the byte is not open access, it's a big sign to anyone offering media to "stay the effin hell out"
When every republican administration eviscerates the labor and consumer rights laws, and at the same time eviscerates the regulations which promoted actual competition, you get this kind of thing.
People work more, make less, and get fewer choices in an increasingly consolidated market.
Do you think people like to buy particle board furniture?
Of course they don't!, but they make less, and the fact that smaller suppliers are squeezed out by global particle-board furniture holdings limited means there is less choice/competition among people providing real wood.
The same can be said of pretty much every sector, and is exemplified by the broadband and media markets.
Now that comcrap and several other ISP's are rolling out metering and bandwidth caps. you can be sure this will be ratcheted up to the point where you get bills like this from your land line ISP's soon enough.
Thank you FCC, FTC, and Congress for your careful preservation of broadband "competition" *thumbsup*
as a university grad, i'm really ticked at your sentiment.
I'm not looking for 80k a year, but I do feel utterly cheated by the fact that i can't even find a 35k a year job because I actually participated in acadaemics instead of internships with a side of classes.
They don't want to train their workforce anymore, and they don't want to reward education with even a chance to prove your worth
you mean the 10 minutes to the one corner store, or the 15 minutes to the other?
Heck, my brother and I once pulled off the ohio turnpike in the middle of "armpit of the universe" nowhere and the amazing hastings grad proceeded to accidentally fill his unleaded tank with the diesel available at every pump!
where do you live? I'll bet it's california where they irrationally banned diesel vehicles back when US diesel was a mixture of raw sewage and bilge water.
I'd like to add that it's very very hard to connect an IP address to an actual person.
There are numerous defenses, and recent studies on ip spoofing revealed researchers could frame fax and copy machines for copyright infringement.
The real security though is the MAFIAA is doing the equivalent of firing shotguns at the beach. Chances of a specific grain of sand being hit by lead shot are infinitesimal, even lower if you act judiciously to bury yourself in the deepest of darknets.
you don't seem to understand, that's exactly what I have been saying.
It's been like this for 10 years now (since 1998).
What, you didn't think ISPs kept logs of this kind of thing? You think they assign anyone with a modem connected to the cable an IP? no, you have to pay them, and they have to keep track of it to prevent stolen internet service.
This is not "different", it's more of the same.
This said, the only real way to determine if someone is sharing something "illegal" is to actually connect to that person.
Usenet is not "dead", not even close. Numerous independent servers and international ISP's cache usenet. Connecting to usenet is a very secure way to share files because they are protected by court precedents dating to before the great bribery campaigns, and because youre communicating directly with a server rather than random users, there's no MAFIAA representative able to snoop your connection.
It is worth wondering if the at large public does consider these tactics a failure, or is even aware of them, or if they are if they even care. That's where this battle is to be fought, not amongst a (more) informed internet audience that is savvy to technological issues.
until members of the "offline" community meet and are educated by members of the "online" community, who, contrary to recent reports, are not "ghosts in the machine" (though i wish i was).
i was once accused of "cursing" to my shrink's secretary for saying "jesus christ" in response to a schedule screwup which pushed a 30 day maintenance appointment to 60.
There are people out there with seriously mal-adjusted concepts of language, just like there are real creationists out there (I met one in person, he was a mac user like me, I feel very dirty)
I said I had no work experience, because nobody wants to give it.
enough with the walls of text.
They bounce from moderate respect to outright disdain with no apparent rhyme or reason.
In the last portion you're apparently calling me socialist for my earlier assertions that it takes wage floors to grease the economic wheels, which is then corrected by inflation. Anyone who is against wage floors needs to wake up and see what happens predictably after every republican administration destroys them.
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a cd with copied music isn't illegal if its your 1 backup copy of the album which is fair use if you bought the album legally
because we all know you only need one backup copy right?
My college's anti-getting-their-ass-sued-by-the-RIAA propaganda has already melted the minds of a lot of people around here to thinking that any kind of file sharing, regardless of content, is illegal.
Agreed. As a new college freshman, I've met plenty of people who had BitTorrent on their computer and deleted it as to avoid any lawsuits. I figure keeping a copy of Transmission on-hand is fine so long as I don't go downloading illegal stuff.
wow, you didn't educate them?
This is how ignorance leads to government license to criminalize things (as in cold hard time)
There's a flaw in your logic. It's called "common carrier."
and as has been pointed out before, ISP's, at least in the US, were removed from "common carrier" and placed under the category "information service".
then why do you propose overages?
overages are by far the most abusive portion of mobile contract plans.
A phone bill with overages will more often than not be composed of greater than 50% overage charges.
The fact that the government is even allowing them to even suggest caps is ludicrous on its face, but moderate slowdowns (rather than the extreme cuts to dialup I hear about in australia and britain) are the way to do this kind of thing if you want to be fair about it.
Telstra provides the pipe leases to all the ISP's.. at stupidly high rates, resulting in those annoying (explative deleted)s which invade every slashdot thread talking about how "awesome" regressing back 2 decades to metered internet is.
so which ISP's paid you?
comcast?
the bells?
all of them?
this is a blatant lie.
It doesn't cost substantially more to push data across longer distances beyond the initial investment which you claim has already been expended properly.
wooo the HORROR.. a few more boosting stations in the US than japan.
The bandwidth doesn't cost anything more than the cost of upkeep on the network because of peering agreements.
finally, a fiber cable is a fiber cable is a fiber cable.. the "advancements" in capacity have been in the control units, not the cable itself.
once again.. a minimal outlay to increase capacity exponentially which your cash grabbing overlords don't want to put into place.
An entirely sensible business model is to give X bandwidth for $Y dollars up to Z bytes per month, and then charge overage fees when the user goes beyond Z bytes per month.
what obvious astroturfing by an ISP rep out to turn ISP's into cellphone carriers.
The real sensible model would be to offer services at X speed for Y dollars a month, and when they hit a predetermined cap, they move to half of X speed.
This would enforce "polite sharing" without gouging customers or destroying the "high speed" of high speed internet.
going from 6 megabits to 3 megabits won't impact normal web browsing, gaming, or IM, only heavy-bandwidth transfers.
If calculated properly, people would be mathematically unable to exceed a hard data cap.
you're not getting it either.
We have made progress from the early 90's "by the piece at 4k" to now "unlimited at 6 meg".
I wouldn't call a shift in local calling plans from unlimited local for 24 bucks a month to a byzantine cellular-esque plan "progress".
they need to upgrade their infrastructure to meet the times, not start regressing us back to the stone age!
The other side of net neutrality is the spirit behind it: promoting innovation by assuring open access. Billing by the byte is not open access, it's a big sign to anyone offering media to "stay the effin hell out"
When every republican administration eviscerates the labor and consumer rights laws, and at the same time eviscerates the regulations which promoted actual competition, you get this kind of thing.
People work more, make less, and get fewer choices in an increasingly consolidated market.
Do you think people like to buy particle board furniture?
Of course they don't!, but they make less, and the fact that smaller suppliers are squeezed out by global particle-board furniture holdings limited means there is less choice/competition among people providing real wood.
The same can be said of pretty much every sector, and is exemplified by the broadband and media markets.
Now that comcrap and several other ISP's are rolling out metering and bandwidth caps. you can be sure this will be ratcheted up to the point where you get bills like this from your land line ISP's soon enough.
Thank you FCC, FTC, and Congress for your careful preservation of broadband "competition" *thumbsup*
I think it's time to frame the lincoln tunnel for copyright infringement.
wow are you deluded.
Palin is a creationist and you need to read other posts in this thread about her sneaking about trying to ban books.
libertarian indeed.
Again this so called tech source ignores the DMCA completely.
This is the equivalent of talking about global warming and failing to mention the US addiction to the open road.
since when did I think that was a good idea for apple?
since their switch to intel, apple's quality has slipped to the point where i'm wondering where my next machine will come from.
Is there any manufacturer who actually tailors their products to a semi-professional niche?
as a university grad, i'm really ticked at your sentiment.
I'm not looking for 80k a year, but I do feel utterly cheated by the fact that i can't even find a 35k a year job because I actually participated in acadaemics instead of internships with a side of classes.
They don't want to train their workforce anymore, and they don't want to reward education with even a chance to prove your worth
you mean the 10 minutes to the one corner store, or the 15 minutes to the other?
Heck, my brother and I once pulled off the ohio turnpike in the middle of "armpit of the universe" nowhere and the amazing hastings grad proceeded to accidentally fill his unleaded tank with the diesel available at every pump!
where do you live? I'll bet it's california where they irrationally banned diesel vehicles back when US diesel was a mixture of raw sewage and bilge water.
I'd like to add that it's very very hard to connect an IP address to an actual person.
There are numerous defenses, and recent studies on ip spoofing revealed researchers could frame fax and copy machines for copyright infringement.
The real security though is the MAFIAA is doing the equivalent of firing shotguns at the beach. Chances of a specific grain of sand being hit by lead shot are infinitesimal, even lower if you act judiciously to bury yourself in the deepest of darknets.
you don't seem to understand, that's exactly what I have been saying.
It's been like this for 10 years now (since 1998).
What, you didn't think ISPs kept logs of this kind of thing? You think they assign anyone with a modem connected to the cable an IP? no, you have to pay them, and they have to keep track of it to prevent stolen internet service.
This is not "different", it's more of the same.
This said, the only real way to determine if someone is sharing something "illegal" is to actually connect to that person.
Usenet is not "dead", not even close. Numerous independent servers and international ISP's cache usenet. Connecting to usenet is a very secure way to share files because they are protected by court precedents dating to before the great bribery campaigns, and because youre communicating directly with a server rather than random users, there's no MAFIAA representative able to snoop your connection.
I wonder how many of those "security" people also voted in '04 not to change horses mid apocalypse.
Those aren't people, they're cogs in the authoritarian machine. Talking to them is like talking to a wall or a creationist.
It is worth wondering if the at large public does consider these tactics a failure, or is even aware of them, or if they are if they even care. That's where this battle is to be fought, not amongst a (more) informed internet audience that is savvy to technological issues.
until members of the "offline" community meet and are educated by members of the "online" community, who, contrary to recent reports, are not "ghosts in the machine" (though i wish i was).
I think this guy said it best.
I agree with this.
down with brittney spears, survivor MLXVIIII, and mtv!
fuck? that's a nothing..
i was once accused of "cursing" to my shrink's secretary for saying "jesus christ" in response to a schedule screwup which pushed a 30 day maintenance appointment to 60.
There are people out there with seriously mal-adjusted concepts of language, just like there are real creationists out there (I met one in person, he was a mac user like me, I feel very dirty)
e-mail sent through your website.
I said I had no work experience, because nobody wants to give it.
enough with the walls of text.
They bounce from moderate respect to outright disdain with no apparent rhyme or reason.
In the last portion you're apparently calling me socialist for my earlier assertions that it takes wage floors to grease the economic wheels, which is then corrected by inflation. Anyone who is against wage floors needs to wake up and see what happens predictably after every republican administration destroys them.
If you tie anti-circumvention to actual infringement rather than blanket-ban it, that's a proper balance.
This would mean tools which meet the betamax standard for substantial non-infringing uses could still be produced and marketed.
among those tools would be region free dvd players, mod chips, etc.