No, the real free market solution (a.k.a. the ones politicians would never propose) is that you get a whole bunch of power companies competing on the same grid, attempting to be a lower cost than one another, and give consumers a choice of who to pay for their power. You don't regulate the price directly, or directly control the companies providing the power; that's a recipe for disaster. Granting a monopoly, whether government or private, is going to cause bloat and high prices, then eventual failure of the system.
No, I don't cook often, and that is a good observation.
However, let's be honest: It's not hard to get Americans to use single-queue multiple-cashier systems, as was the point of the GP, as evidenced by the huge number of places that the system is used effectively in the States.
The case where single queue is going to be worse is at a place like Wal-mart, where there's going to be quite a few people hopping in ahead of you without repercussion (and the line is usually going to be hundreds long at any given time). They don't use single queue because they don't want to hire security to keep people out of the front of the line.
Every post office and bank in my area does this, along with book stores, most of the eateries, airports, and nearly anywhere else. I hardly ever see multiple lines, regardless as to venue, in the last few years - in the states.
I would guess it's easier on the airframe because it can have a different acceleration curve. I imagine a steam driven catapult as having high power at the onset, but lower power at the end, while an electronic method like this can have a more gradual push.
That's an interesting remark. It seems to imply that you believe every "people" should have a "homeland" that is uniquely, and permanently, theirs. But how does that fit in with the theory that it is perfectly OK to eject the current people from their "homeland" and take it for yourselves?
Then it's not ok that the Palestinians ejected the Jews in the 7th century, or you're putting forth a double standard.
Seriously, you have to get over this point. People take land by force, regardless as to the time in history. Palestinians have told Jews to GTFO, Jews and Persians have told Christians to GTFO, Romans kicked out Christians, Christians kicked out Jews, among hundreds of other times the area has changed hands. Think of the place as the grandest king of the hill game ever conceived, and you'll see that is exactly what this area has always been, and it's not going to change any time soon.
Or if it's someone who can prove descent from Jews who left Palestine after the unsuccessful rebellion against Rome, what gives them the right to reclaim the land their ancestors supposedly occupied 60 or 70 generations ago?
What gives Palestinians the right to claim land that they themselves hadn't owned in the last thousand years either? Seriously, just go to Wikipedia and check out the article on "Palestine", if you think the area was anything other than conquered by a foreign power repeatedly for the past 2000 years.
Exactly. So why did the Jews have to flee Europe precisely when the people who had persecuted them were all dead, in prison, or being hunted down like dogs? And why did any of them have to leave the USA, which is such a paradise of racial tolerance?
Simple. It was their homeland, and given to them in full ownership, according to the people who owned the area previously.
For the question of "Who is a Jew", just look at Israel's definition (Law of Return) for a 100% confidence interval of "Yes, is a Jew". Good luck on getting anyone to decide beyond that, though.
The point is not whether one group of people has ever forcibly conquered or displaced another. Almost all of history consists of that. But all the examples you cite are well in the past - at least before 1900. The point is whether supposedly civilized people should have set out to do such a thing in the 1940s - during and after the Nazi era. We rightly condemn the Nazis for setting out to conquer, displace, and sometimes exterminate indigenous peoples - then acquiesce smilingly when the Jews do the same thing. That's a classic double standard.
Israel was not formed by wholesale extermination of Palestinians. Jews were people without a homeland at all. Israel came about solely because of the Nazi era - WW2 was over before Israel was created - from British-controlled territory.
By the way, I feel I should mention that:
1. There is no evidence that Iran is seeking to acquire nuclear weapons, and much that it isn't.
Seeking to make their own enriched material is a sure sign they're going for it. They can have power generation without running centrifuges, which was supposed to be the deal with Russia - then it came out they had quite a few centrifuges operational.
2. It is against Iran's interests to have a nuclear weapons program, as that would provide Israel and the USA with a classic casus belli for an aggressive war against it. (Exactly as happened in Iraq).
Against their interests, yet in their goals.
3. Iran has signed the NPT, and has complied with its rules. The NPT explicitly allows signatories to seek and acquire peaceful nuclear power generation.
So did North Korea. Look how that turned out.
4. Israel (like India) has not signed the NPT, yet has not only pursued the acquisition of nuclear weapons; it is said to have over 100 of them, ready for use at any time. This is in flagrant breach of international law, yet no one seems to care.
First, there's no proof they actually have them. Not one iota.
I guess there's a reason why nobody seems to care, yeah?
5. The USA, as revealed by Wikileaks, intends to supply Israel with fissionable material. As Israel has not signed the NPT, that is a violation of both international law and the NPT.
I would like to see a link on this, as I haven't seen it.
6. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said that the state of Israel should be removed from the map. That would be achieved if, for instance, all the immigrant Jews were to go back to Europe, North America, and wherever else they came from, and the Palestinians were given back their homes. He did not call for the killing of anyone, let alone the genocide often falsely attributed to him.
He did, however, say that said removal from the map would be by any means necessary.
The fucking people living in the middle east hated Jews before they moved in. You have to be a retard if you didn't understand that from the context given by the second paragraph. Oh, wait, AC, right.
In the last thousand years, until recently, there were no Jews in the Muslim world because all the Jews in those areas were slaughtered and persecuted even longer ago and Jews didn't move back in. Even the Muslim world has calmed its ways a bit in this last millennium.
You can't even legitimately bring Nazism into this on the Christian side, given their shifting associations depending on their mood. Nazism is a "religion" (read: cult) in its own right, separate from Christianity. They even prayed to that shithead.
The sister thing this season really got me going, TBH haha. She's starting to seem more like him, and I think they're gonna run with that next season. Glad you brought that up.
Anything done to prevent an evil greater than the evil of said preventative measure is a good deed in my book. One murder (obviously is a criteria too) prevents hundreds, no problem. Carry on. A real cop might arrest him, but there's a very real possibility that a real cop would understand and let him go. Cops, like anyone else, don't mind if their job is done for them by a guy doing thorough research. A few less crazy psychopath killers to deal with, a few less chances to die on the job.
That's likely why nobody other than Iran is all up-in-arms about this whole thing. Nobody cares that a crazy regime isn't getting nukes soon, regardless as to the method.
Suspected != has, and you know that. The greatest bluff of all time is what this will go down to be, when the truth isn't going to damage Israel's position in the region.
I hope you don't live in the US, England, Germany, or nearly any other country. Because let's face it: there isn't a fucking place on Earth that hasn't been forcibly taken from the people who (formerly) own(ed) it at some point in history. Anglos took over the Saxons, Norway took over England, Germany at one point owned Europe, the USSR owned everything east of Germany, China isn't a historical state either, Japan wasn't unified a while ago, India wasn't a state, the USA wouldn't exist, Mexico was owned for quite a long time (didn't even get to keep their language)...the list goes on, of how blind you are to history if you think one group of people has never moved in on another group's turf. It's new to history for such a global issue to be created over 8000 square miles, though.
I also said remove them from the map - outright genocide hasn't happened by their hands, despite the sequestering of land. As it turns out, they are, by a longshot, better than the Spaniards, the then-future-Americans, the Normans, the English, the Japanese, the Germans, the French, the Dutch, the Chinese...
As if the Palestinians aren't killing (and attempting to kill) Israelis? Please, do apply the same standard to them.
They have no plans to commit genocide on Palestinians, either, and if you think they do, you're a fucking moron. Not only are the Jews just not into that kind of thing (wonder why?), they're not morons. They know that even considering that idea is really, really bad, because if it ever happened, they're done as a country.
Israel doesn't have nukes. It just has lots of friends who have nukes, most of whom would be willing to use them if push came to shove and a country decided to go on a killing spree.
I would have no qualms about destroying a knife factory owned by Dexter, if Dexter weren't killing other serial killers, but rather random people. Dexter is only an interesting show because he's an exception to the rule (serial killers are bad people doing evil shit); Iran is not an exception to the rule (Rule #1 of world politics: Don't give nukes to someone with absolutely no reservations about detonating them), in that they'd be willing to use a nuke the moment they get it assembled.
The entire area was owned by the British, and largely backing the Axis due to their support of the genocide. The British gave the land to Israel, who were the ones forcibly taking said land. Not like that's never happened before in history, but people make a big deal out of it because it's Israel. I hope you're not in the US, otherwise you should get out of there, since if you are, you took the lands of native people forcibly as well.
Probably a bad idea to put a bunch of Jews in the center of a bunch of people who hate Jews, but it's not like the only reason they want to kill Jews is because their "homeland is being invaded". They were of that mindset long before Israel existed.
Also, Iran didn't exist for the last 300 years, but if you count the Persians as "Iranians" for this example, most definitely started the second Russo-Persian War.
Israel hasn't started a war, either, just to point that out - they just get embroiled in the whole "Arab Muslims tend to hate Jews" thing constantly, since they're surrounded by a bunch of countries that really, really don't like Jews (just look at the laws regarding Judaism in some of these countries). The only one that you can even possibly consider them starting a war (the Lebanon war) was a retaliation to a Lebanese assassination attempt on one of their ambassadors.
Israel never removed a country's inhabitants from the map. They also haven't vowed the destruction of another country in the region, unlike a certain other regime in said region.
There's a whole gigantic facility (possibly two) that needs to have all its machinery removed and replaced with a different type, and you really believe it's a plug and play type of deal? (Stuxnet only affects a specific machine, the Siemens S7-300, and only when attached to specific variable frequency drives [centrifuges] - this is why Stuxnet is known to be a targeted operation. The Windows infection is just meant to use way to get itself onto those specific machines, and it does no real harm on Windows machines. When attached to the variable frequency drives, it messes with the operation of the centrifuge, preventing it from enriching uranium, but largely not affecting other operations. See why people think the US and Israel did it, because of the complexity, yet?)
Put it this way; the whole interior may need to be redesigned and reworked to accommodate a new type of centrifuge. This building probably took 5-10 years to design, top to bottom, and is likely to take 2+ to rework, redesign, and get the equipment delivered, installed, and fully operational.
Wasted effort, to stop a regime hellbent on removing another country's inhabitants from the map via absolutely any means possible, from having the biggest, nastiest weapon ever conceived? br Not in my book.
Actually, I typed more as I waited for preview, then the preview showed up without that little bit, and I changes tabs, came back, and hit submit. Short term memory FTL.
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No, the real free market solution (a.k.a. the ones politicians would never propose) is that you get a whole bunch of power companies competing on the same grid, attempting to be a lower cost than one another, and give consumers a choice of who to pay for their power. You don't regulate the price directly, or directly control the companies providing the power; that's a recipe for disaster. Granting a monopoly, whether government or private, is going to cause bloat and high prices, then eventual failure of the system.
Both.
No, I don't cook often, and that is a good observation.
However, let's be honest: It's not hard to get Americans to use single-queue multiple-cashier systems, as was the point of the GP, as evidenced by the huge number of places that the system is used effectively in the States.
Couldn't you also be considered a sheep, for deciding to buy impulsively while you walk around the store aimlessly?
The case where single queue is going to be worse is at a place like Wal-mart, where there's going to be quite a few people hopping in ahead of you without repercussion (and the line is usually going to be hundreds long at any given time). They don't use single queue because they don't want to hire security to keep people out of the front of the line.
Every post office and bank in my area does this, along with book stores, most of the eateries, airports, and nearly anywhere else. I hardly ever see multiple lines, regardless as to venue, in the last few years - in the states.
I would guess it's easier on the airframe because it can have a different acceleration curve. I imagine a steam driven catapult as having high power at the onset, but lower power at the end, while an electronic method like this can have a more gradual push.
Bugger off!
Exactly. Tire roar is the biggest source of noise from any modern car, barring ones modded with the express purpose of making the engine louder.
Seeing your back is only a bit more of a stretch from having your head up your ass, you know.
That's an interesting remark. It seems to imply that you believe every "people" should have a "homeland" that is uniquely, and permanently, theirs. But how does that fit in with the theory that it is perfectly OK to eject the current people from their "homeland" and take it for yourselves?
Then it's not ok that the Palestinians ejected the Jews in the 7th century, or you're putting forth a double standard.
Seriously, you have to get over this point. People take land by force, regardless as to the time in history. Palestinians have told Jews to GTFO, Jews and Persians have told Christians to GTFO, Romans kicked out Christians, Christians kicked out Jews, among hundreds of other times the area has changed hands. Think of the place as the grandest king of the hill game ever conceived, and you'll see that is exactly what this area has always been, and it's not going to change any time soon.
Or if it's someone who can prove descent from Jews who left Palestine after the unsuccessful rebellion against Rome, what gives them the right to reclaim the land their ancestors supposedly occupied 60 or 70 generations ago?
What gives Palestinians the right to claim land that they themselves hadn't owned in the last thousand years either? Seriously, just go to Wikipedia and check out the article on "Palestine", if you think the area was anything other than conquered by a foreign power repeatedly for the past 2000 years.
Exactly. So why did the Jews have to flee Europe precisely when the people who had persecuted them were all dead, in prison, or being hunted down like dogs? And why did any of them have to leave the USA, which is such a paradise of racial tolerance?
Simple. It was their homeland, and given to them in full ownership, according to the people who owned the area previously.
For the question of "Who is a Jew", just look at Israel's definition (Law of Return) for a 100% confidence interval of "Yes, is a Jew". Good luck on getting anyone to decide beyond that, though.
The point is not whether one group of people has ever forcibly conquered or displaced another. Almost all of history consists of that. But all the examples you cite are well in the past - at least before 1900. The point is whether supposedly civilized people should have set out to do such a thing in the 1940s - during and after the Nazi era. We rightly condemn the Nazis for setting out to conquer, displace, and sometimes exterminate indigenous peoples - then acquiesce smilingly when the Jews do the same thing. That's a classic double standard.
Israel was not formed by wholesale extermination of Palestinians. Jews were people without a homeland at all. Israel came about solely because of the Nazi era - WW2 was over before Israel was created - from British-controlled territory.
By the way, I feel I should mention that:
1. There is no evidence that Iran is seeking to acquire nuclear weapons, and much that it isn't.
Seeking to make their own enriched material is a sure sign they're going for it. They can have power generation without running centrifuges, which was supposed to be the deal with Russia - then it came out they had quite a few centrifuges operational.
2. It is against Iran's interests to have a nuclear weapons program, as that would provide Israel and the USA with a classic casus belli for an aggressive war against it. (Exactly as happened in Iraq).
Against their interests, yet in their goals.
3. Iran has signed the NPT, and has complied with its rules. The NPT explicitly allows signatories to seek and acquire peaceful nuclear power generation.
So did North Korea. Look how that turned out.
4. Israel (like India) has not signed the NPT, yet has not only pursued the acquisition of nuclear weapons; it is said to have over 100 of them, ready for use at any time. This is in flagrant breach of international law, yet no one seems to care.
First, there's no proof they actually have them. Not one iota.
I guess there's a reason why nobody seems to care, yeah?
5. The USA, as revealed by Wikileaks, intends to supply Israel with fissionable material. As Israel has not signed the NPT, that is a violation of both international law and the NPT.
I would like to see a link on this, as I haven't seen it.
6. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said that the state of Israel should be removed from the map. That would be achieved if, for instance, all the immigrant Jews were to go back to Europe, North America, and wherever else they came from, and the Palestinians were given back their homes. He did not call for the killing of anyone, let alone the genocide often falsely attributed to him.
He did, however, say that said removal from the map would be by any means necessary.
The fucking people living in the middle east hated Jews before they moved in. You have to be a retard if you didn't understand that from the context given by the second paragraph. Oh, wait, AC, right.
In the last thousand years, until recently, there were no Jews in the Muslim world because all the Jews in those areas were slaughtered and persecuted even longer ago and Jews didn't move back in. Even the Muslim world has calmed its ways a bit in this last millennium.
You can't even legitimately bring Nazism into this on the Christian side, given their shifting associations depending on their mood. Nazism is a "religion" (read: cult) in its own right, separate from Christianity. They even prayed to that shithead.
The sister thing this season really got me going, TBH haha. She's starting to seem more like him, and I think they're gonna run with that next season. Glad you brought that up.
Anything done to prevent an evil greater than the evil of said preventative measure is a good deed in my book. One murder (obviously is a criteria too) prevents hundreds, no problem. Carry on. A real cop might arrest him, but there's a very real possibility that a real cop would understand and let him go. Cops, like anyone else, don't mind if their job is done for them by a guy doing thorough research. A few less crazy psychopath killers to deal with, a few less chances to die on the job.
That's likely why nobody other than Iran is all up-in-arms about this whole thing. Nobody cares that a crazy regime isn't getting nukes soon, regardless as to the method.
Suspected != has, and you know that. The greatest bluff of all time is what this will go down to be, when the truth isn't going to damage Israel's position in the region.
I hope you don't live in the US, England, Germany, or nearly any other country. Because let's face it: there isn't a fucking place on Earth that hasn't been forcibly taken from the people who (formerly) own(ed) it at some point in history. Anglos took over the Saxons, Norway took over England, Germany at one point owned Europe, the USSR owned everything east of Germany, China isn't a historical state either, Japan wasn't unified a while ago, India wasn't a state, the USA wouldn't exist, Mexico was owned for quite a long time (didn't even get to keep their language)...the list goes on, of how blind you are to history if you think one group of people has never moved in on another group's turf. It's new to history for such a global issue to be created over 8000 square miles, though.
I also said remove them from the map - outright genocide hasn't happened by their hands, despite the sequestering of land. As it turns out, they are, by a longshot, better than the Spaniards, the then-future-Americans, the Normans, the English, the Japanese, the Germans, the French, the Dutch, the Chinese...
They have no plans to commit genocide on Palestinians, either, and if you think they do, you're a fucking moron. Not only are the Jews just not into that kind of thing (wonder why?), they're not morons. They know that even considering that idea is really, really bad, because if it ever happened, they're done as a country.
These things (the Siemens S7-300 units) do actually run Windows; the S7-300 would be controlling the centrifuge.
Israel doesn't have nukes. It just has lots of friends who have nukes, most of whom would be willing to use them if push came to shove and a country decided to go on a killing spree.
I would have no qualms about destroying a knife factory owned by Dexter, if Dexter weren't killing other serial killers, but rather random people. Dexter is only an interesting show because he's an exception to the rule (serial killers are bad people doing evil shit); Iran is not an exception to the rule (Rule #1 of world politics: Don't give nukes to someone with absolutely no reservations about detonating them), in that they'd be willing to use a nuke the moment they get it assembled.
The entire area was owned by the British, and largely backing the Axis due to their support of the genocide. The British gave the land to Israel, who were the ones forcibly taking said land. Not like that's never happened before in history, but people make a big deal out of it because it's Israel. I hope you're not in the US, otherwise you should get out of there, since if you are, you took the lands of native people forcibly as well.
Probably a bad idea to put a bunch of Jews in the center of a bunch of people who hate Jews, but it's not like the only reason they want to kill Jews is because their "homeland is being invaded". They were of that mindset long before Israel existed.
Also, Iran didn't exist for the last 300 years, but if you count the Persians as "Iranians" for this example, most definitely started the second Russo-Persian War.
Israel hasn't started a war, either, just to point that out - they just get embroiled in the whole "Arab Muslims tend to hate Jews" thing constantly, since they're surrounded by a bunch of countries that really, really don't like Jews (just look at the laws regarding Judaism in some of these countries). The only one that you can even possibly consider them starting a war (the Lebanon war) was a retaliation to a Lebanese assassination attempt on one of their ambassadors.
This isn't hitting their car. It's sabotaging the die from which they plan to produce thousands of guns, all intended for you and/or your friend.
Israel never removed a country's inhabitants from the map. They also haven't vowed the destruction of another country in the region, unlike a certain other regime in said region.
If someone says they're going to kill you, you don't hand them a gun, and you do what you can to make sure they don't get a gun.
There's a whole gigantic facility (possibly two) that needs to have all its machinery removed and replaced with a different type, and you really believe it's a plug and play type of deal? (Stuxnet only affects a specific machine, the Siemens S7-300, and only when attached to specific variable frequency drives [centrifuges] - this is why Stuxnet is known to be a targeted operation. The Windows infection is just meant to use way to get itself onto those specific machines, and it does no real harm on Windows machines. When attached to the variable frequency drives, it messes with the operation of the centrifuge, preventing it from enriching uranium, but largely not affecting other operations. See why people think the US and Israel did it, because of the complexity, yet?)
Put it this way; the whole interior may need to be redesigned and reworked to accommodate a new type of centrifuge. This building probably took 5-10 years to design, top to bottom, and is likely to take 2+ to rework, redesign, and get the equipment delivered, installed, and fully operational.
Wasted effort, to stop a regime hellbent on removing another country's inhabitants from the map via absolutely any means possible, from having the biggest, nastiest weapon ever conceived?
br Not in my book.
Actually, I typed more as I waited for preview, then the preview showed up without that little bit, and I changes tabs, came back, and hit submit. Short term memory FTL.