Yes you are, don't lie. Their behaviour is disgusting. They should be banned for their anti-capitalist, anticonsumer (again) behaviour. Cook should go to Jail.
I have not been following Microsofts Rise, but the stock rose on the News that Microsoft financial statements were better than expected, and even though news of Windows being awful..which turned out to be true. It remained profitable in other areas; due to price rises elsewhere and live services on its EOL console. It rose again on news of a large investment by a third party know for positively influencing companies.
...but its stock is not rising because of its OS failure, but despite it. Longer term it will continue to affect other sectors of its business. In context of this Article Google has reached new highs too...I believe even Apple have clawed back 9%.
Except Ubuntu users want cutting edge Debian, not tried and tested Debian...and unfortunately using Debian is not going to make it more cutting edge.
...Now if Debian decided to produce a (stable) cutting edge Desktop version (perhaps working with an existing Distribution team). To complete there ultra stable, you have me sold.
I'll match your citation with mine. According to Kantar Worldpanel ComTech, iOS was the top-selling platform in Q4 2012, maintaining 51.2% of the market.
So either your data is wrong or mine is.
...no even at your Worldpanel ComTech this is from last week. "With nearly half (49.3%) of smartphone sales, Android remains the top selling operating system, but saw only slight growth compared to the same period last year, and is down versus the 3 months ending February 2013 (-1.9%). iOS remains in second place with 43.7% of smartphone sales, down throughout Q1 2013." http://www.kantarworldpanel.com/global/News/Windows-sees-steady-growth-in-Q1-2013
Ironically Activation on Microsoft platform pushed me to Linux
Windows 8 is not available to me from Microsoft only an upgrade I cannot use. From Microsoft http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/buy?ocid=GA8_O_WOL_Hero_ShopHP_FPP_Null the prices are $155 for a Windows 8 Upgrade or $295 for Windows 8 Pro. I could not find a version of retail Windows 8 anywhere. What is true for you is not true for me.
To be fair installing the the whole of Ubuntu is now a few basic dialog boxes and leave for 20 minutes
I know your trolling but Linux Desktop market share has been steadily rising for sometime, and that is without the onslaught of Chrome (and soon Android Boxies).
"Google Android ranked as the top smartphone platform with 52 percent market share (71.1 million subscribers), while Apple’s share increased 2.7 percentage points to 39 percent (53.3 million subscribers)"
I am not sure where you are getting your data, but its different from everyone else, considering America is Apples strongest (only) market it does not look good, I
What you're saying is that Apple isn't doing as well as Android on the world stage. What I'm saying is that Apple is solidly regaining its lead in the United States. Both statements are correct.
No he didn't he said "iPhone sales are actually growing again, and now exceed Android phone sales. Worldwide, the numbers are also trending back in that direction." its just a lie the reality Apple’s global market share is plummeting.
Android still has a healthy margin over Apple in the US.This is a nice article that states how it is http://bgr.com/2013/05/06/smartphone-market-share-us-q1-2013-comscore/ "Android is eating everyone’s lunch in the U.S. – except for Apple’s"...and that is Apples strongest market. But the idea that Apple is regaining a lead...because the market shifted 2-3% is a bold statement;)
the Chairman of the company that has utterly failed at something criticizes the company that is making money hand over fist for not understanding what customers want?
I think you need to look at Micro$ofts Financial statements. It makes money hand over fist despite turning its profitable PC business into a touchless tablet...While not selling any actual tablets. Financially its been a success...and by the market it is seen as one going forward Its why its share price is up 25%...and Apple is buying back shares after its shareprice has dropped 45%.
If you are sill defending your mega corporation on profits alone you need a better argument. (It was always a little silly)
That's only half the story. When Android first came out on phones, they rapidly overtook Apple because there were a bunch of new players jumping into the game. Now that the market has stabilized, the pendulum is swinging back the other way.
...the other half of the story I'm afraid to tell you is a whole lot worse here are the latest figures for Apple smartphones http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS24085413 The short version is Apple dropped in one quarter from 23% to 17.3%. Year on Year it had single digit growth of 6.6% in a market that grew 41%. What your saying in not only off-topic but not true.
I am not sure where the concept of a tablet being about passive consumption came about. The reality is the new breed of tablet that come with pens have the potential of being more productive. That is not to say your passive consumers on today tablets...that is simply not true.
If you had said a mouse makes a better better pointing device than a finger, or for a competent typist can type marginally faster than someone swiping with their finger. I'd agree, and for a single task computer that replies on these things...like a typist a computer is better, for everyone else its a trade on portability; storage; screen estate.(I personally think they Desktop & Tablet compliment each other nicely)
Personally I use a Desktop almost everything...but that is because of its great big screen, not any misguided belief in productivity.
“The tablet takes cutting-edge PC technology and makes it available whenever you want it, which is why I’m already using a tablet as my everyday computer,” Gates said at the time to the audience gathered at the MGM Grand Garden Arena. “It’s a PC that is virtually without limits and within five years I predict it will be the most popular form of PC sold in America.”"
Ironically Bill Gates say the future...he built the damn boat, ironically in the context of this article he just hitched it up to windows;intel...and in context of this article Office.
You have to question the wisdom of chasing the iPad which has dropped to 40% http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS24093213 of the tablet market for 3 quarters (even after launching a smaller tablet) having been overtaken by Android, and growing less than half the overall market (Android is almost doubling growth).
Dunkirk: But you could be software company and clean MS's clock.
Cook: Could someone please remove this Dunkirk fellow from my office?
...and right now that hardware is selling badly as natural market forces come into work, one of its options would be to sell music; books; applications and take a cut of the profits. the PC market is 1.2Billion computers.
Right now what saved Microsoft last earning was it had managed to Diversify enough, so its Windows sales drop did not hurt it short term. Google famous for selling advertising space is suddenly collecting more and more of its Revenue elsewhere (even without Motorola).
Currently Apple is simply the iPhone company...and because of that it looks incredibly weak
Apple better USE that money to DO something game changing
I think they should take over Nintendo. Since the launch of the Wii U. It just seems such a interesting match.
But the reality is they should do the boring things, like compete on price, have a product range..things every other company has to do in a maturing market.
...except (salesman) Steve Jobs logic turned Apple into to become an electronics company (dropping the computers from its name in the process). Microsoft is already doing that...store *check* locked down OS *check* surface mobiles and computers *check* electronics interface *check*
The problem is they should have done the opposite of Steve...and focused on creating a great product we would love, license the OS for nothing, remove restrictions from the hardware....Like Android.
Considering the "I'm willing to go thermonuclear war on this" patent wars Apple has instigated in the smart phone and tablet markets, I wouldn't exactly say they gave them away.
Having a strategy...that failed to stop *sales* of a larger range; better value; standards following; more open; platform. There are strategies against that, but they decided to swim in money instead.
Going forward whose FRAND patents that allowed Apple to enter the phone market will not be available to Apple in future (and unfortunately anyone else). Apples interface patents have been worked around or ignored now. It was a dumb play...at lest they get to take home 1billion...no 650 Mill..no 459 Million.
All Apple achieved is replace standards...with Android. It is the worst of all worlds.
The Desktop market is shrinking in favor of tablets and smartphones. Two areas where apple has strong products (One could argue they created those markets).
...and then gave those markets away to Android...to remain vastly profitable in those...are we seeing a patten.
The only sad thing about your comment is Apple could reinvigorate the Desktop market...but they are just going to as Dellboy would say Give the money back to the shareholders.
I think if nothing else Apple has learned form history, both its own and the many other PC companies that, well, no longer exist
Except its an insane fantasy...the PC industry is still dripping with money (although not considered as sexy as tablets).
Lets be honest Microsoft & Intel make over 70% gross margins (Apple executives used to remember good margins)...admittedly HP has to suffer at only 20% *rolls eyes*
..but again none of that changes the statement that Apple (Inc...not computer anymore, now they are not a PC..one phone company) and Microsoft both profit from the stable Desktop Duopoly, pretending that they are in any way in conflict is a little sad...celebrating the fact as an Apple user because Apple make a lot of money from its users, I have always found bizarre.
...and again real competition is coming from Android (or Chrome...or Chromified Android), and Linux continues to make strides.
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Such activities involve a pretty large number of people. It's interesting how they collectively can keep it a secret for a pretty long time.
It is was published in his biography. This has been going on for forever.
Not defending Apple's pricing
Yes you are, don't lie. Their behaviour is disgusting. They should be banned for their anti-capitalist, anticonsumer (again) behaviour. Cook should go to Jail.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartel
...and customers get bent over; thank Apple
And the rest of us have to pay a premium for its Monopolistic abuse. Call me a hater.
What is missing from the article is this is saint Jobs corrupt to the core.
"Jobs explained to his biographer that he told the publishers, "We’ll go to the agency model, where you set the price, and we get our 30 percent, and yes, the customer pays a little more, but that’s what you want anyway.” http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/299875-doj-accuses-steve-jobs-of-being-ringmaster-in-price-fixing-scheme.
Thankfully Microsoft is slowly catching up so we will be back with that evil duopoly again.
I have not been following Microsofts Rise, but the stock rose on the News that Microsoft financial statements were better than expected, and even though news of Windows being awful..which turned out to be true. It remained profitable in other areas; due to price rises elsewhere and live services on its EOL console. It rose again on news of a large investment by a third party know for positively influencing companies.
Hello Debian
Except Ubuntu users want cutting edge Debian, not tried and tested Debian...and unfortunately using Debian is not going to make it more cutting edge.
Simply evil
I'll match your citation with mine. According to Kantar Worldpanel ComTech, iOS was the top-selling platform in Q4 2012, maintaining 51.2% of the market.
So either your data is wrong or mine is.
...no even at your Worldpanel ComTech this is from last week. "With nearly half (49.3%) of smartphone sales, Android remains the top selling operating system, but saw only slight growth compared to the same period last year, and is down versus the 3 months ending February 2013 (-1.9%). iOS remains in second place with 43.7% of smartphone sales, down throughout Q1 2013." http://www.kantarworldpanel.com/global/News/Windows-sees-steady-growth-in-Q1-2013
Look everyone agrees Apple is number 2
I've never had a problem with activating any version of windows since windows 95
Microsoft Product Activation DRM began with XP, you should practice your spin a little better.
Chrome, the browser, is going to help increase linux on the desktop?
Interesting.
Chrome is also the name of an OS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Chrome_OS you can see the machines here http://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/devices/ on googles site. The range from incredible cheap machines to the incredibly beautiful Pixel. Lin
Ironically Activation on Microsoft platform pushed me to Linux
Windows 8 is not available to me from Microsoft only an upgrade I cannot use. From Microsoft http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/buy?ocid=GA8_O_WOL_Hero_ShopHP_FPP_Null the prices are $155 for a Windows 8 Upgrade or $295 for Windows 8 Pro. I could not find a version of retail Windows 8 anywhere. What is true for you is not true for me.
Install the icedtea-7-plugin package using any installation method. more detailed instructions here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java.
To be fair installing the the whole of Ubuntu is now a few basic dialog boxes and leave for 20 minutes
I know your trolling but Linux Desktop market share has been steadily rising for sometime, and that is without the onslaught of Chrome (and soon Android Boxies).
Apple commanded 51.2% of the U.S. smartphone market in the 4Q 2012
No it doesn't.
http://www.comscore.com/Insights/Press_Releases/2013/5/comScore_Reports_March_2013_U.S._Smartphone_Subscriber_Market_Share
"Google Android ranked as the top smartphone platform with 52 percent market share (71.1 million subscribers), while Apple’s share increased 2.7 percentage points to 39 percent (53.3 million subscribers)"
I am not sure where you are getting your data, but its different from everyone else, considering America is Apples strongest (only) market it does not look good,
I
What you're saying is that Apple isn't doing as well as Android on the world stage. What I'm saying is that Apple is solidly regaining its lead in the United States. Both statements are correct.
No he didn't he said "iPhone sales are actually growing again, and now exceed Android phone sales. Worldwide, the numbers are also trending back in that direction." its just a lie the reality Apple’s global market share is plummeting.
Android still has a healthy margin over Apple in the US .This is a nice article that states how it is http://bgr.com/2013/05/06/smartphone-market-share-us-q1-2013-comscore/ "Android is eating everyone’s lunch in the U.S. – except for Apple’s"...and that is Apples strongest market. But the idea that Apple is regaining a lead...because the market shifted 2-3% is a bold statement ;)
the Chairman of the company that has utterly failed at something criticizes the company that is making money hand over fist for not understanding what customers want?
I think you need to look at Micro$ofts Financial statements. It makes money hand over fist despite turning its profitable PC business into a touchless tablet...While not selling any actual tablets. Financially its been a success...and by the market it is seen as one going forward Its why its share price is up 25%...and Apple is buying back shares after its shareprice has dropped 45%.
If you are sill defending your mega corporation on profits alone you need a better argument. (It was always a little silly)
That's only half the story. When Android first came out on phones, they rapidly overtook Apple because there were a bunch of new players jumping into the game. Now that the market has stabilized, the pendulum is swinging back the other way.
...the other half of the story I'm afraid to tell you is a whole lot worse here are the latest figures for Apple smartphones http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS24085413 The short version is Apple dropped in one quarter from 23% to 17.3%. Year on Year it had single digit growth of 6.6% in a market that grew 41%. What your saying in not only off-topic but not true.
I am not sure where the concept of a tablet being about passive consumption came about. The reality is the new breed of tablet that come with pens have the potential of being more productive. That is not to say your passive consumers on today tablets...that is simply not true.
If you had said a mouse makes a better better pointing device than a finger, or for a competent typist can type marginally faster than someone swiping with their finger. I'd agree, and for a single task computer that replies on these things...like a typist a computer is better, for everyone else its a trade on portability; storage; screen estate.(I personally think they Desktop & Tablet compliment each other nicely)
Personally I use a Desktop almost everything...but that is because of its great big screen, not any misguided belief in productivity.
Or better yet, they could sell Windows RT for the iPad!
In Google play https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.microsoft.switchtowp8 Switch to Windows Phone App. After noting it doesn't run on any of my devices...a first. It actually manages to achieve 600 1* scores (the others are negligible)
Bill, you're smoking crack and you've missed the boat again.
From the article http://allthingsd.com/20091005/while-fanboys-breathlessly-await-steve-jobs-apple-itab-they-should-probably-thank-bill-gates-too/ "Way back in the fall of 2001, when BoomTown was but a less-aged version of myself, I attended a keynote speech at the now-defunct Comdex show in Las Vegas, where Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates continued to bang the drum for one of his long-running obsessions: The tablet computer.
“The tablet takes cutting-edge PC technology and makes it available whenever you want it, which is why I’m already using a tablet as my everyday computer,” Gates said at the time to the audience gathered at the MGM Grand Garden Arena. “It’s a PC that is virtually without limits and within five years I predict it will be the most popular form of PC sold in America.”"
Ironically Bill Gates say the future...he built the damn boat, ironically in the context of this article he just hitched it up to windows;intel...and in context of this article Office.
You have to question the wisdom of chasing the iPad which has dropped to 40% http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS24093213 of the tablet market for 3 quarters (even after launching a smaller tablet) having been overtaken by Android, and growing less than half the overall market (Android is almost doubling growth).
As for competing with Apple because of an Office product even if it were true http://www.androidauthority.com/libreoffice-android-release-171002/ Libreoffice is getting frustrating close to release.
You can tell Microsoft and Apple want the safe Duopoly back; Androids monster growth is not going to stop anytime soon, the iPad is a dying platform.
Cook: We're a hardware company.
Dunkirk: But you could be software company and clean MS's clock.
Cook: Could someone please remove this Dunkirk fellow from my office?
...and right now that hardware is selling badly as natural market forces come into work, one of its options would be to sell music; books; applications and take a cut of the profits. the PC market is 1.2Billion computers.
Right now what saved Microsoft last earning was it had managed to Diversify enough, so its Windows sales drop did not hurt it short term. Google famous for selling advertising space is suddenly collecting more and more of its Revenue elsewhere (even without Motorola).
Currently Apple is simply the iPhone company...and because of that it looks incredibly weak
Apple better USE that money to DO something game changing
I think they should take over Nintendo. Since the launch of the Wii U. It just seems such a interesting match.
But the reality is they should do the boring things, like compete on price, have a product range..things every other company has to do in a maturing market.
If Steve Jobs was the CEO of Microsoft....
...except (salesman) Steve Jobs logic turned Apple into to become an electronics company (dropping the computers from its name in the process). Microsoft is already doing that...store *check* locked down OS *check* surface mobiles and computers *check* electronics interface *check*
The problem is they should have done the opposite of Steve...and focused on creating a great product we would love, license the OS for nothing, remove restrictions from the hardware....Like Android.
Considering the "I'm willing to go thermonuclear war on this" patent wars Apple has instigated in the smart phone and tablet markets, I wouldn't exactly say they gave them away.
Having a strategy...that failed to stop *sales* of a larger range; better value; standards following; more open; platform. There are strategies against that, but they decided to swim in money instead.
Going forward whose FRAND patents that allowed Apple to enter the phone market will not be available to Apple in future (and unfortunately anyone else). Apples interface patents have been worked around or ignored now. It was a dumb play...at lest they get to take home 1billion...no 650 Mill..no 459 Million.
All Apple achieved is replace standards...with Android. It is the worst of all worlds.
The Desktop market is shrinking in favor of tablets and smartphones. Two areas where apple has strong products (One could argue they created those markets).
...and then gave those markets away to Android...to remain vastly profitable in those...are we seeing a patten.
These are the latest numbers from IDC - Smartphones http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS24085413 tablets - http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS24093213 spin the numbers however you want we both know where the argument goes
The only sad thing about your comment is Apple could reinvigorate the Desktop market...but they are just going to as Dellboy would say Give the money back to the shareholders.
I think if nothing else Apple has learned form history, both its own and the many other PC companies that, well, no longer exist
Except its an insane fantasy...the PC industry is still dripping with money (although not considered as sexy as tablets).
Lets be honest Microsoft & Intel make over 70% gross margins (Apple executives used to remember good margins)...admittedly HP has to suffer at only 20% *rolls eyes*