What do you mean, "all that money?" My 4GB mini was about $140.
By the way, iPods do work for Linux (I use Slackware 10.2) - in fact, some media player apps such as amaroK will even interface with them. You can use GTKPod too if you want.
"Waiting for all the non-rich "Republicans" to realize Republican politicians just sweet talked them and told them lies about being good Christians so they could fuck them."
Yeah. Because we here in the Detroit area are thrilled that Kwame Kilpatrick doesn't do stupid things like playing the race card against a candidate of the same race. And about the incident with the Navigator - and the "Kwame Tax" too. What a wonderful Democratic politician - taking advantage of the poor education system in Detroit like that.
SciFi, MTV, and Comedy Central are all I watch. Maybe I'll channel surf once in a while and find something like "The Simpsons" or "Family Guy" (neither of which is on CBS or NBC, I believe).
CBS and NBC seem to have nothing on but a bunch of shit like "Will & Grace" and "Survivor". How they got classified by you as a "major network" is beyond me.
And what about "Battlestar Galactica"? That's good too.
I think "Joe Sixpack" would be able to. It seems you've had a very different experience, but I've never had much trouble with Linux - and when I first gave Linux a shot I started out with Mandrake which is/was considered more for the "average" PC user (which is how I was back then - maybe a little more computer-literate than average, but I had no Linux knowledge whatsoever). Back then there were very few sites to go to for problems though, and even fewer people who knew anything about Linux. But Mandrake was easy enough to use that I really didn't need too much help.
So I'm sure now - 7 years later - we've got the stuff to make it easy enough for "Joe Sixpack". My guess is that Google will go for a LiveCD, and then have the option to do a hard-drive-based install.
"It was your own quote, which you just re-stated. You must think I have "stupid" tattooed across my shiny forehead."
No, the quote that I used in my previous post was what YOU said.
I said, "I've never had any problems with sound on it except on some *VERY* old laptops"(meaning that Linux worked fine except for the sound) - which YOU somehow misconstrued to mean that I never had problems with Linux "except for some very old laptops or sound" - which are two very different things. I said the first one, YOU made up the second one.
"You have absoloutly NO IDEA as to why the clock was broken. It could very well have been something in linux that wasn't working properly OR HP's fault. Regardless, LINUX didn't work properly (That isn't to say it didn't work at all. With some kernel options, it worked better but the clock was still drifting.)"
Hmm. . . if it's broken before you patch the BIOS, and it's fixed after you patch the BIOS. . . maybe it's the BIOS causing the problem? Plus, I'm pretty sure I remember reading in the Linux configure tools about a work-around for broken BIOSes (meaning that the BIOS, NOT Linux, is broken) - which I would assume is what you mean when you say it worked better "with some kernel options".
"I also don't recall saying that you said (shesh!) it was my fault linux didn't work. Nice attempt at shifting the subject, though!"
You implied it when you said "you seem incapable of understanding this is not my fault" when you were talking about Linux not working.
Well I'm just saying, though, that there's a high possibility that only Windows users will switch and not current Linux users who already have a distro they like and are comfortable with.
Did you burn it yourself, or did you purchase it? And if you burned it, did you try running the option to check the CD to make sure the data wasn't corrupted?
Also, what hardware were you using? Those are all commercial distros, and they probably focus more on new hardware than old hardware.
Oh, I'm shoveling bullshit? Sorry if I speak from experience. I guess I bullshitted my way through all my computer experience. The day I find another PC (ie, other than my old 266MHz Dell) that doesn't work on Linux or whose sound doesn't work on Linux, I guess I'll eat my words. I have yet to see one, though - when I fixed my dad's laptop with Knoppix, the sound worked, when I fixed all the other Windows computers in the house with Knoppix, the sound worked, and when I installed Slackware, Mandrake, Redhat, Fedora, SuSE, Icepack Linux, and many other distros on my desktop the sound - and 3D acceleration - worked.
Way to misquote me, too. I didn't say "except for some very old laptops or sound", I said that I never had any problems with sound except on some very old laptops.
The fact that your laptop's clock didn't work with Linux but worked after you updated the BIOS means that the BIOS was broken, not Linux. Otherwise Linux would've not worked even with the patched BIOS.
And when did I say it was YOUR fault that Linux didn't work on your laptop? I said it was the BIOS' fault.
I wasn't talking about posting documents or Quicken files online, thank you very much. I'm sure these "Google PC's" that will be running "Goobuntu" (or whatever) will still have a hard drive.
Plus. . . I don't know why everyone thinks sound is such a big issue in Linux! I haven't had sound problems since I first tried Linux back around Y2K. Also, many distros are fairly simple and straightforward to install (and actually from what I hear Ubuntu is fairly well-known for this).
I call bullshit. I still have yet to see ANY computer, new or old, that doesn't work with Linux. My brand-new Dell laptop works with Linux, my desktop PC works great with Linux - and always has (and, yes, it has this "new" technology - it's got a GeForce FX 5500, and no, I've never had any problems with sound on it except on some *VERY* old laptops) and I even play DOOM III on Linux online with a framerate of about 30fps and fine sound. The problems people have with the nVidia or ATi drivers are always either their own stupidity or a problem with the drivers. Or a problem of software conflict. NOT a problem with Linux itself.
Also, the fact that your laptop didn't work with Linux "untill HP released a BIOS update to fix the clock problem" tells me that the problem was with your computer, not with Linux.
And how does my previous post show that Linux "is fairly good at supporting OLD hardware"? I didn't even mention any hardware except my TV Wonder Pro which isn't even a year old - I just got it last summer.
Google still won't gain anything by just sitting there and letting MS develop their search technologies. However, they will have quite a defense against MS if they can suddenly whip out an entire OS seemingly out of nowhere and get many people to switch over, much like their support has gotten many Windows users to switch to Firefox. If they can suddenly remove MS' pride and joy out from underneath them, then MS will have to do an "oh shit" and retreat to find a way to get its Windows users back.
Why? Just about everything's online nowadays. Most people use their PCs for - what? Web surfing, e-mail, maybe a couple games. . . all of which can be done online.
And I still have yet to see a computer that can't run Linux. Even my TV Wonder Pro (which there is no ATI driver for) works with Linux.
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The source doesn't necessarily do you any good if you don't have access to a Unix system to compile it.
You don't need to look at the screen at all! Just push ">>" until you hear a song you like. Or just create a playlist full of songs you like.
By the way, iPods do work for Linux (I use Slackware 10.2) - in fact, some media player apps such as amaroK will even interface with them. You can use GTKPod too if you want.
It does say they sat on it. Which would've put the nano in a position where it might've snapped.
Yeah. Because we here in the Detroit area are thrilled that Kwame Kilpatrick doesn't do stupid things like playing the race card against a candidate of the same race. And about the incident with the Navigator - and the "Kwame Tax" too. What a wonderful Democratic politician - taking advantage of the poor education system in Detroit like that.
SciFi, MTV, and Comedy Central are all I watch. Maybe I'll channel surf once in a while and find something like "The Simpsons" or "Family Guy" (neither of which is on CBS or NBC, I believe).
CBS and NBC seem to have nothing on but a bunch of shit like "Will & Grace" and "Survivor". How they got classified by you as a "major network" is beyond me.
And what about "Battlestar Galactica"? That's good too.
Hmm, that's odd. . . my iPod doesn't make any noise at all, except for the clicking when you push the buttons. . .
Anyways, it doesn't make any sense to me why they're complaining about Google News being a news portal.
So Google News is a news portal. So what? Who cares?
Don't they know that that's the whole point of a news portal?
Well since Darth Vader and Bill Gates both belong to the Dark Side. . . no.
"I spent the night in a Tauntaun and all I got was this lousy lightsaber!"
So I'm sure now - 7 years later - we've got the stuff to make it easy enough for "Joe Sixpack". My guess is that Google will go for a LiveCD, and then have the option to do a hard-drive-based install.
I haven't changed what you said at all. But ok. . .
The "2 years ago" might explain it - a lot's changed since then. In fact, IIRC the Ubuntu project was still in its infancy then.
No, the quote that I used in my previous post was what YOU said.
I said, "I've never had any problems with sound on it except on some *VERY* old laptops"(meaning that Linux worked fine except for the sound) - which YOU somehow misconstrued to mean that I never had problems with Linux "except for some very old laptops or sound" - which are two very different things. I said the first one, YOU made up the second one.
"You have absoloutly NO IDEA as to why the clock was broken. It could very well have been something in linux that wasn't working properly OR HP's fault. Regardless, LINUX didn't work properly (That isn't to say it didn't work at all. With some kernel options, it worked better but the clock was still drifting.)"
Hmm. . . if it's broken before you patch the BIOS, and it's fixed after you patch the BIOS. . . maybe it's the BIOS causing the problem? Plus, I'm pretty sure I remember reading in the Linux configure tools about a work-around for broken BIOSes (meaning that the BIOS, NOT Linux, is broken) - which I would assume is what you mean when you say it worked better "with some kernel options".
"I also don't recall saying that you said (shesh!) it was my fault linux didn't work. Nice attempt at shifting the subject, though!"
You implied it when you said "you seem incapable of understanding this is not my fault" when you were talking about Linux not working.
Maybe they're on DVD, and your new box can't boot from DVD? I know my laptop has trouble booting from DVD.
Well I'm just saying, though, that there's a high possibility that only Windows users will switch and not current Linux users who already have a distro they like and are comfortable with.
Also, what hardware were you using? Those are all commercial distros, and they probably focus more on new hardware than old hardware.
Way to misquote me, too. I didn't say "except for some very old laptops or sound", I said that I never had any problems with sound except on some very old laptops.
The fact that your laptop's clock didn't work with Linux but worked after you updated the BIOS means that the BIOS was broken, not Linux. Otherwise Linux would've not worked even with the patched BIOS.
And when did I say it was YOUR fault that Linux didn't work on your laptop? I said it was the BIOS' fault.
Plus. . . I don't know why everyone thinks sound is such a big issue in Linux! I haven't had sound problems since I first tried Linux back around Y2K. Also, many distros are fairly simple and straightforward to install (and actually from what I hear Ubuntu is fairly well-known for this).
Also, the fact that your laptop didn't work with Linux "untill HP released a BIOS update to fix the clock problem" tells me that the problem was with your computer, not with Linux. And how does my previous post show that Linux "is fairly good at supporting OLD hardware"? I didn't even mention any hardware except my TV Wonder Pro which isn't even a year old - I just got it last summer.
Google still won't gain anything by just sitting there and letting MS develop their search technologies. However, they will have quite a defense against MS if they can suddenly whip out an entire OS seemingly out of nowhere and get many people to switch over, much like their support has gotten many Windows users to switch to Firefox. If they can suddenly remove MS' pride and joy out from underneath them, then MS will have to do an "oh shit" and retreat to find a way to get its Windows users back.
Big difference - he still used "bury" in the same quote.
Would you like to launch the letter writing wizard?
And I still have yet to see a computer that can't run Linux. Even my TV Wonder Pro (which there is no ATI driver for) works with Linux.