Nuclear explosions? On the moon?
Were they hoping to blast it out of the earth's orbit and travel across space on it, meeting a new alien civilisation every week?
And they wanted the Kaboom!! The moon shattering Kaboom!!
Any other law violation you either get searched/charged or let off the hook.
How about next time you are charged with (actual) theft, someone calls you first and offers to pay 600 euros to avoid the hassle? Why is this a valid option for copyright violation accusations?
Unfortunately, "any other law" doesn't apply here. This is a civil violation, not a criminal one. Its not theft, it's copyright violation. It's extortion to demand money not to turn someone in for a criminal violation, but in civil matters you are free to offer a deal in exchange for not pressing charges. In criminal cases, the D.A. is the one pressing the charges, and in civil cases it's the plaintiff's lawyer, which is why they have the option.
The plaintiffs aren't the problem here. The police aren't the problem either. The plaintiffs are simply taking advantage of the law as written for their own benefit, and the police are just playing along by the rules as required. It's the Bad Law that's to blame. You can't blame companies and greedy people for being greedy, it's what they DO. You can't blame the police for enforcing the law, it's also what they DO. The only one to blame is your legislator, who created the Bad Law, whom you voted in. That means blame yourself, and work to get the laws changed.
Reposting because I pressed the wrong button:
A bad law is one that causes more harm than it prevents. You can blame the police for enforcing a bad law. As long as people are willing to enforce bad laws those laws will remain. Changing bad laws via the ballot box takes a long time, enforcing those laws while we're waiting will do more harm.
Any other law violation you either get searched/charged or let off the hook.
How about next time you are charged with (actual) theft, someone calls you first and offers to pay 600 euros to avoid the hassle? Why is this a valid option for copyright violation accusations?
Unfortunately, "any other law" doesn't apply here. This is a civil violation, not a criminal one. Its not theft, it's copyright violation. It's extortion to demand money not to turn someone in for a criminal violation, but in civil matters you are free to offer a deal in exchange for not pressing charges. In criminal cases, the D.A. is the one pressing the charges, and in civil cases it's the plaintiff's lawyer, which is why they have the option.
The plaintiffs aren't the problem here. The police aren't the problem either. The plaintiffs are simply taking advantage of the law as written for their own benefit, and the police are just playing along by the rules as required. It's the Bad Law that's to blame. You can't blame companies and greedy people for being greedy, it's what they DO. You can't blame the police for enforcing the law, it's also what they DO. The only one to blame is your legislator, who created the Bad Law, whom you voted in. That means blame yourself, and work to get the laws changed.
A bad law is one that causes more harm than it prevents. You can blame the police for enforcing a bad law. As long as people are willing to enforce bad laws those laws will remain.
If you think an unmarked police car's primary purpose is catching people "driving 5 mph over the speed limit" then you've been listening to too much reactionary "why don't they go after real criminals?!" and "don't they have anything better to do?!" arguments, usually heavily promoted by people who have been caught breaking the law for 'trivial' reasons like speeding.
I haven't
Unmarked cars *are* used for "better things" than catching speeding motorists (even ones doing a mere 5 over - no cop stops you for 5 over, especially not an unmarked unit,
They do in Victoria (Oz)
you also get a 10% leeway to account for speedometer inaccuracy
You don't in Victoria
so the only time that "5 over" would be even close to something you could be pulled for would be in a 30 mph zone) - they're used primarily in the investigation and containment of stolen cars and for major crimes involving motor vehicles such as drugs, burglaries, etc.
They certainly do stop ordinary motorists if something flags you to them (impaired driving, excessive speed, tax/insurance issues etc) but they're not there to "catch you out" - you make it sound like it's some trick to make you break the law when you think they're not looking.
Some police behaviour I've witnessed suggests otherwise
I know for a fact that Cheshire Police in the UK doesn't care if you know what unmarked cars they use - I have seen them personally show large, unobscured photographs of them with number plates showing clearly in public settings - because they're not designed to trick you, they're designed to be less visible than a panda car so they can tail suspect vehicles more easily, and your "5 over" driver is not such a motorist.
Your "5 over" driver IS such a motorist over here.
If the police are being outed undercover then don't whine when crime occurs.
[rant] If the police don't like it, they can stop abusing THE PRIVILEGE OF DRIVING UNMARKED CARS GRANTED THEM BY SOCIETY when going about their revenue raising^w^w traffic policing duties. [/rant]
I have seen too many examples of police (in marked and unmarked* cars) breaking road laws** to have any sympathy at all for them. If this spills over to other branches - tough; if they can't follow the same rules as the rest of us they should consider a career change (to either the food service or housekeeping industries).
*Been close enough to see the uniform.
**Talking on mobile phones while driving***, exceeding the speed limit without using lights or siren, tailgating (less than 2 car lengths) at freeway speeds...
***Yes, I know that they are magically exempt from this one in Victoria, but they haven't been sprinkled with enough pixie dust to make this safe.
With such a low number id, I'd assume this was many years ago. These days the rumor would get around that the teacher was "teaching kids how to make a drano bomb" and would get fired and prosecuted as terrorist for this heinous action.
The best bribery I have in class is to offer to teach them how to make a nuclear bomb if they do $whatever_I_set_them first. Almost always works, too.
As a fellow Aussie, i'm inclined to agree we're like Canadians - but WTF is hockey? Never heard of it... Now if you said AFL, I'd know that. Maybe even Rugby, but hockey? You're kidding me, right?
We also have two speed economies that thrive on mining and struggle on everything else.
Oh yeah, what that f*** is hockey;)
It's like LaCrosse but played on ice.
As a competitive sport, Lacrosse in Victoria predates the VFL (the organisation that became the AFL).
A man should be able to change a diaper,
plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design
a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a
wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give
orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations,
analyse a new problem, pitch manure, program a
computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die
gallantly. Specialisation is for insects.
" She wouldn't have a full uniform yet, not until some had taken a, well, let's face it, a breastplate along to old Remitt the armourer and told him to beat it out really well here and here..." (Men at Arms)
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why don't geeks spend hours and hours tinkering with cars? I mean everyone should know how to do all the things needed to keep their car running.
I do.
what is so useful about spending all your time tinkering with computers but not other things you use in your life?
I spend very little time tinkering with any of my four Linux PCs (apart from updates) because everything "just works".
"Computer Scientists can count to 1023 on their fingers" (non-mutant, non-mutilatated, human computer scientists
FTFY [/pedant]
I get 'Error - Site blocked' and I'm in Sydney.
I can see http://thepromobay.co.uk/ and http://promobay.org/ in Victoria.
If you refuse to do business with Microsoft you wont be in business very long
Just the nine years so far...
Nuclear explosions? On the moon? Were they hoping to blast it out of the earth's orbit and travel across space on it, meeting a new alien civilisation every week?
And they wanted the Kaboom!! The moon shattering Kaboom!!
Do you know what polemic means?
Yes, it was a Tsarist Russian battleship.
Unfortunately, "any other law" doesn't apply here. This is a civil violation, not a criminal one. Its not theft, it's copyright violation. It's extortion to demand money not to turn someone in for a criminal violation, but in civil matters you are free to offer a deal in exchange for not pressing charges. In criminal cases, the D.A. is the one pressing the charges, and in civil cases it's the plaintiff's lawyer, which is why they have the option.
The plaintiffs aren't the problem here. The police aren't the problem either. The plaintiffs are simply taking advantage of the law as written for their own benefit, and the police are just playing along by the rules as required. It's the Bad Law that's to blame. You can't blame companies and greedy people for being greedy, it's what they DO. You can't blame the police for enforcing the law, it's also what they DO. The only one to blame is your legislator, who created the Bad Law, whom you voted in. That means blame yourself, and work to get the laws changed.
Reposting because I pressed the wrong button:
A bad law is one that causes more harm than it prevents. You can blame the police for enforcing a bad law. As long as people are willing to enforce bad laws those laws will remain. Changing bad laws via the ballot box takes a long time, enforcing those laws while we're waiting will do more harm.
Unfortunately, "any other law" doesn't apply here. This is a civil violation, not a criminal one. Its not theft, it's copyright violation. It's extortion to demand money not to turn someone in for a criminal violation, but in civil matters you are free to offer a deal in exchange for not pressing charges. In criminal cases, the D.A. is the one pressing the charges, and in civil cases it's the plaintiff's lawyer, which is why they have the option.
The plaintiffs aren't the problem here. The police aren't the problem either. The plaintiffs are simply taking advantage of the law as written for their own benefit, and the police are just playing along by the rules as required. It's the Bad Law that's to blame. You can't blame companies and greedy people for being greedy, it's what they DO. You can't blame the police for enforcing the law, it's also what they DO. The only one to blame is your legislator, who created the Bad Law, whom you voted in. That means blame yourself, and work to get the laws changed.
A bad law is one that causes more harm than it prevents. You can blame the police for enforcing a bad law. As long as people are willing to enforce bad laws those laws will remain.
This. Could it not be considered medical discrimination?
First we need to decide whether or not they fit a socially acceptable* definition of "human".
*Socially acceptable as in does not harm the rest of society.
I bet the only people who get this problem are the same people who fold paperback books completely back on themselves when they read them.
.........I just worked out why my ereader screens keep breaking.
If you think an unmarked police car's primary purpose is catching people "driving 5 mph over the speed limit" then you've been listening to too much reactionary "why don't they go after real criminals?!" and "don't they have anything better to do?!" arguments, usually heavily promoted by people who have been caught breaking the law for 'trivial' reasons like speeding.
I haven't
Unmarked cars *are* used for "better things" than catching speeding motorists (even ones doing a mere 5 over - no cop stops you for 5 over, especially not an unmarked unit,
They do in Victoria (Oz)
you also get a 10% leeway to account for speedometer inaccuracy
You don't in Victoria
so the only time that "5 over" would be even close to something you could be pulled for would be in a 30 mph zone) - they're used primarily in the investigation and containment of stolen cars and for major crimes involving motor vehicles such as drugs, burglaries, etc.
They certainly do stop ordinary motorists if something flags you to them (impaired driving, excessive speed, tax/insurance issues etc) but they're not there to "catch you out" - you make it sound like it's some trick to make you break the law when you think they're not looking.
Some police behaviour I've witnessed suggests otherwise
I know for a fact that Cheshire Police in the UK doesn't care if you know what unmarked cars they use - I have seen them personally show large, unobscured photographs of them with number plates showing clearly in public settings - because they're not designed to trick you, they're designed to be less visible than a panda car so they can tail suspect vehicles more easily, and your "5 over" driver is not such a motorist.
Your "5 over" driver IS such a motorist over here.
If the police are being outed undercover then don't whine when crime occurs.
[rant] If the police don't like it, they can stop abusing THE PRIVILEGE OF DRIVING UNMARKED CARS GRANTED THEM BY SOCIETY when going about their revenue raising^w^w traffic policing duties. [/rant]
I have seen too many examples of police (in marked and unmarked* cars) breaking road laws** to have any sympathy at all for them. If this spills over to other branches - tough; if they can't follow the same rules as the rest of us they should consider a career change (to either the food service or housekeeping industries).
*Been close enough to see the uniform.
**Talking on mobile phones while driving***, exceeding the speed limit without using lights or siren, tailgating (less than 2 car lengths) at freeway speeds...
***Yes, I know that they are magically exempt from this one in Victoria, but they haven't been sprinkled with enough pixie dust to make this safe.
With such a low number id, I'd assume this was many years ago. These days the rumor would get around that the teacher was "teaching kids how to make a drano bomb" and would get fired and prosecuted as terrorist for this heinous action.
The best bribery I have in class is to offer to teach them how to make a nuclear bomb if they do $whatever_I_set_them first. Almost always works, too.
What would you prefer though?
A kangaroo with Stinger missiles.
When the Prime Minister is shown on nationwide news baying for the blood of an Australian journalist, their intentions are pretty obvious.
Added emphasis mine
... And you don't have to know who Don Bradman was (he was this really racist sports-person)....
The season has nearly finished, could we please stop talking about footballers?
As a fellow Aussie, i'm inclined to agree we're like Canadians - but WTF is hockey? Never heard of it... Now if you said AFL, I'd know that. Maybe even Rugby, but hockey? You're kidding me, right?
We also have two speed economies that thrive on mining and struggle on everything else.
Oh yeah, what that f*** is hockey ;)
It's like LaCrosse but played on ice.
As a competitive sport, Lacrosse in Victoria predates the VFL (the organisation that became the AFL).
Sorry, the deadly creatures and the super hot chicks are a package deal. ;)
I can cope with the drop-bears and other creatures, it's just the deadly hot chicks you have to watch out for... :-)
Despite all you have heard, drop bears (no hyphen) are still underestimated outside Australia, see this.
Adding to my own post after reading a lot of other people's...
The answer is because we don't drown enough lawyers at birth? Are we really that screwed up?
My high school had an elective course called "Math for Living" that taught everyday uses of math like the above examples, no Calculus needed.
Here in Oz those subjects are referred to BY THE STUDENTS as "vegie maths" (vegie=vegetable).
Asking for information, not trolling:
What is the point of the BSD licence? Why not just go straight to public domain (for new works)?
If my banker ISN'T "doing all that algebra" she isn't doing her job (at all, let alone properly).
A man should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyse a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialisation is for insects.
Anyone not understanding what an exponential is does not have a good enough understanding of demographics to make a fully informed decision about
taking a loan
and should not be authorized to
make babies.
That looks better.
Another author being Terry Pratchett...
" She wouldn't have a full uniform yet, not until some had taken a, well, let's face it, a breastplate along to old Remitt the armourer and told him to beat it out really well here and here..." (Men at Arms)