Sure, so long as you never need to make any changes to the code. The surviving COBOL coders have gone back into comfortable retirement with the money they made fixing Y2K. So they've moved from old iron to a modern operating system; they could still reap even more benefits by recoding for modern languages and coding practices.
There's seldom a benefit to be found in taking millions of lines of code that are working exactly as needed and re-writing them from then ground up simply because the language isn't snazzy enough. There's a large number of COBOL programmers still in the work force; even if they all charged premium if the system is maintainable it will be still be cheaper than writing a new one. Yours is the same kind of thinking that leads people into buying new cars every few years -- "Well, it will cost less than repairing the old one when it breaks down". In both cases, it is a very rare exception for the most expensive available alternative to cost less.
But then, this is the US Postal Service. COBOL's probably fast enough for the task.
COBOL compiles down to executable machine code (presumably ELF) -- language isn't going to affect performance here.
... in the title we start out with "Mass speculation suggests...". In other words, "A bunch of bloggers are working hard to convince each other that Oracle wants to kill OpenSolaris". Why is this news again?
Okay, so your point is that there are alternatives for thte thigns he mentioned. A fair number of computer users don't want to have to find alternatives for everything they're trying to do - and just want them installed from the start. Reference Ubuntu, Mandriva, and any other relatively popular desktop linux distro. You haven't yet given a reason not to use 7 - at best you've shown that there are aternatives to a subset of the things that 7 supplies. Which I agree is great - but it's also not the answer for everyone.
I don't entirely disagree with you - it's clear just by doing a google search for "Windows 7" that MS has the propoganda going out overtime. If you search my history, you'll find I posted a similar sentiment -- when I tried looking for help with Windows 7 issues, I could only find blog, news (real newspapers!), and forum articles telling me how great Windows 7 was. It was a very frustrating experience -- all the more so because whenI posted it here, I was basically accused of being an/anti/-MS shill.
Now - that being said. Eventually I found answers for those issues, and I'm pretty pleased with Win 7. There are a couple of quirks, but I'm fairly hopeful that the final build will have them fixed. However... discrediting every pro-Win7 poster as "shill" sounds a bit ridiculous. So with that in mind, where's your evidence that this is the case? You say it's "clearly visible" -- where is your "clear proof" that GP was a shill? Am I a "shill" now because after my initial issues I have had a relatively good experience (and holy shit, a TON better than Vista - even under SP1/SP2). How do you tell the difference between real people who like Win7 and shills?
Amusingly, your post - a copy-paste of someone other AC's unsubstantiated rant actually got modded "interesting", while mine will likely get modded down.
Actually, then it'd be downright confusing -- photo says "You're both wrong"? Though "photographer" would have been much better than a made-up abbreviation. On the other hand, "photog" abbreviation has apparently been around since about 1906...
Problem is that trademark doesn't work that way. from everyone's friend: It should be noted that trademark rights generally arise out of the use or to maintain exclusive rights over that sign in relation to certain products or services, assuming there are no other trademark objections.
It's usually considered to be within a given market, not all uses of the word everywhere. Generally speaking, this means you can open Coke's Auto Body or Rosetta Stone Exterminators, and nobody can say a word. Presumably (having not RTFA myself), RS is suing because people selling competing language learning products are buying up 'rosetta stone' keywords.
Even so - this is not google's doing; google can't reasonably be expected to check the legitimacy of each and every advertiser (presumably millions). If there is an issue, wouldn't it would be with the person placing the adwords and not with provider of the advertising service?
Mono is clearly more popular than Java. I've been using desktop Linux as my primary desktop for three to four years, and use just a handful of Java apps day to day," Oâ(TM)Grady said
I'm sorry... has someone missed the gazillion java applications that are cross-platform? Is this article really based on the opinion of ONE developer?
However, there was a near consensus among the experts interviewed by SD Times that Mono has done a better job at attracting developers than Java.
According to O'Grady, Java and Linux are two of the most popular disruptive technologies in open-source development, but they are not intrinsically paired on the desktop: Java can run on any number of platforms, whereas Mono can more effectively target Linux. Mono also runs on Mac OS X and Solaris.
"Regardless of what you think of Microsoft, there are nice technologies here," he said.
And as far as the parent is concerned, I have to agree. Java class hierarchy is a big pain in the ass! Trying to find needed classes and having to include things that aren't needed just to use certain features. It's as bad as MFC in that regard.
Wait, parent said there wasn't enough; you're agreeing and saying there's too much. Which is it? (BTW... you don't load anything that you don't use, in the same way that you don't load classes you don't use in.net. "import" statements do not mean "automatic overhead of loading classes"; this is true on both platforms.)
Exactly. Not sure what is so "brilliant" about staying awake in Business 101. Establishing a track record and actually making it happen is something else entirely.
And establishing a track record and making it happen in spite of that track record is on a whole other level...
Just look at the attempts humans made at colonizing the Americas and Australia - it didn't go well at first and those places had air, water, soil, animals etc.
Yes, and the technology and body of scientific knowledge at that point in time was light-years ahead of what we have today -- there was no excuse for any issues at all, I say!
Take a deep breath dude, was trying to give you info that I thought might help. Now it seems that you've presented a moving target. You first said:
having means to sort all of it by From:, To:, and other criteria would make it easier to identify the false positives
Now you say:
That's irrelevant: you'd have to KNOW who it was from in order to employ a SEARCH like that. That's not useful at all when you aren't looking for something specific.
If you don't know who it's from, to,etc how is sorting by these fields going to help you filter out false positives? Since you now posit that you don't know who it's from, then that won't give you any information that you can use. In addition, you don't need to be searching for something specific to use the filters that are available.
The next step in the evolution of gaming sofwtware is to host it on a large server -- what can we call it? Hmm, it's kind of centralized or main center of application execution; and they all execute in the same framework -- maybe Mainframework, or Mainframe for short? Once we do that, we can allocate slices of time to each game that's running -- at computer speeds, there would never be a noticeable delay to the user! We'll even have the screen rendering done on this "mainframe", and just push the screen to the end user.
When are people going to start realizing that the "cloud" is an old idea with new hardware, and that reinventing a concept by putting it on the 'new' cloud platform isn't a business model that stands on its own?
Have you noticed? GMail gives one no way at all to sort the captured spam. Since I still endure false positives from the system and there is NO way to disable or bypass it, having means to sort all of it by From:, To:, and other criteria would make it easier to identify the false positives and rescue them from the trash bin.
I haven't noticed - filters make this pretty trivial:
The ruling is bullshit, but your post reads like you jumped to conclusion from reading the headline, nevermind the summary or TFA. This movie bears as much relationship to "naked people" "making love" as chicken mcnuggets do to chicken.
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Sure, so long as you never need to make any changes to the code. The surviving COBOL coders have gone back into comfortable retirement with the money they made fixing Y2K. So they've moved from old iron to a modern operating system; they could still reap even more benefits by recoding for modern languages and coding practices.
There's seldom a benefit to be found in taking millions of lines of code that are working exactly as needed and re-writing them from then ground up simply because the language isn't snazzy enough. There's a large number of COBOL programmers still in the work force; even if they all charged premium if the system is maintainable it will be still be cheaper than writing a new one. Yours is the same kind of thinking that leads people into buying new cars every few years -- "Well, it will cost less than repairing the old one when it breaks down". In both cases, it is a very rare exception for the most expensive available alternative to cost less.
But then, this is the US Postal Service. COBOL's probably fast enough for the task.
COBOL compiles down to executable machine code (presumably ELF) -- language isn't going to affect performance here.
Hey, there were no nude pics there! I wanna see my dancing bunnies!
The GPLv2 is a measure to prevent people from taking away freedoms in our modern, copyright-dominated world
And it does this by restricting the freedoms you have with the code. Ironic, isn't it?
... in the title we start out with "Mass speculation suggests...". In other words, "A bunch of bloggers are working hard to convince each other that Oracle wants to kill OpenSolaris". Why is this news again?
Okay, so your point is that there are alternatives for thte thigns he mentioned. A fair number of computer users don't want to have to find alternatives for everything they're trying to do - and just want them installed from the start. Reference Ubuntu, Mandriva, and any other relatively popular desktop linux distro. You haven't yet given a reason not to use 7 - at best you've shown that there are aternatives to a subset of the things that 7 supplies. Which I agree is great - but it's also not the answer for everyone.
Now - that being said. Eventually I found answers for those issues, and I'm pretty pleased with Win 7. There are a couple of quirks, but I'm fairly hopeful that the final build will have them fixed. However... discrediting every pro-Win7 poster as "shill" sounds a bit ridiculous. So with that in mind, where's your evidence that this is the case? You say it's "clearly visible" -- where is your "clear proof" that GP was a shill? Am I a "shill" now because after my initial issues I have had a relatively good experience (and holy shit, a TON better than Vista - even under SP1/SP2). How do you tell the difference between real people who like Win7 and shills?
Amusingly, your post - a copy-paste of someone other AC's unsubstantiated rant actually got modded "interesting", while mine will likely get modded down.
Actually, then it'd be downright confusing -- photo says "You're both wrong"? Though "photographer" would have been much better than a made-up abbreviation. On the other hand, "photog" abbreviation has apparently been around since about 1906...
It's usually considered to be within a given market, not all uses of the word everywhere. Generally speaking, this means you can open Coke's Auto Body or Rosetta Stone Exterminators, and nobody can say a word. Presumably (having not RTFA myself), RS is suing because people selling competing language learning products are buying up 'rosetta stone' keywords.
Even so - this is not google's doing; google can't reasonably be expected to check the legitimacy of each and every advertiser (presumably millions). If there is an issue, wouldn't it would be with the person placing the adwords and not with provider of the advertising service?
It's so fun when fellow slashdottians pretend like we can get girls if we only just wanted to.
And anyone who is unfortunate enough to have a bank with a diebold machine, depending on the nature of the exploit...
the "specific machine" should have been the algorithms used in the code
What makes this a valid legal argument? Not challenging it, just would like more explanation.
Are you going to clarify that, or just make a sweeping troll of a statement and wander off?
Mono is clearly more popular than Java. I've been using desktop Linux as my primary desktop for three to four years, and use just a handful of Java apps day to day," Oâ(TM)Grady said
I'm sorry... has someone missed the gazillion java applications that are cross-platform? Is this article really based on the opinion of ONE developer?
However, there was a near consensus among the experts interviewed by SD Times that Mono has done a better job at attracting developers than Java. According to O'Grady, Java and Linux are two of the most popular disruptive technologies in open-source development, but they are not intrinsically paired on the desktop: Java can run on any number of platforms, whereas Mono can more effectively target Linux. Mono also runs on Mac OS X and Solaris. "Regardless of what you think of Microsoft, there are nice technologies here," he said.
Yes, yes it seems that it is.
And as far as the parent is concerned, I have to agree. Java class hierarchy is a big pain in the ass! Trying to find needed classes and having to include things that aren't needed just to use certain features. It's as bad as MFC in that regard.
Wait, parent said there wasn't enough; you're agreeing and saying there's too much. Which is it? (BTW... you don't load anything that you don't use, in the same way that you don't load classes you don't use in .net. "import" statements do not mean "automatic overhead of loading classes"; this is true on both platforms.)
That's very true; but what makes this a compelling argument to not make the attempt?
Fair enough. I fell into the same trap that I hate when others do: "I can't think of a use for it myself, so you don't need it."
Exactly. Not sure what is so "brilliant" about staying awake in Business 101. Establishing a track record and actually making it happen is something else entirely.
And establishing a track record and making it happen in spite of that track record is on a whole other level...
Just look at the attempts humans made at colonizing the Americas and Australia - it didn't go well at first and those places had air, water, soil, animals etc.
Yes, and the technology and body of scientific knowledge at that point in time was light-years ahead of what we have today -- there was no excuse for any issues at all, I say!
You mean like a rail gun shooting human slugs into space? hmm, that didn't come out right.
But he's trying to rescue false positives, and not find out what to delete...
having means to sort all of it by From:, To:, and other criteria would make it easier to identify the false positives
Now you say:
That's irrelevant: you'd have to KNOW who it was from in order to employ a SEARCH like that. That's not useful at all when you aren't looking for something specific.
If you don't know who it's from, to ,etc how is sorting by these fields going to help you filter out false positives? Since you now posit that you don't know who it's from, then that won't give you any information that you can use. In addition, you don't need to be searching for something specific to use the filters that are available.
When are people going to start realizing that the "cloud" is an old idea with new hardware, and that reinventing a concept by putting it on the 'new' cloud platform isn't a business model that stands on its own?
Have you noticed? GMail gives one no way at all to sort the captured spam. Since I still endure false positives from the system and there is NO way to disable or bypass it, having means to sort all of it by From:, To:, and other criteria would make it easier to identify the false positives and rescue them from the trash bin.
I haven't noticed - filters make this pretty trivial:
in:spam from:blah
The ruling is bullshit, but your post reads like you jumped to conclusion from reading the headline, nevermind the summary or TFA. This movie bears as much relationship to "naked people" "making love" as chicken mcnuggets do to chicken.