The US gives USD 7 million a day to Israel. That is the root of the regions discontent - a stolen land, enforcing a racial/ethnic exclusionary policy by force of arms. Then, the opressor constantly plays the role of threatened victim.
If it's such a fucking "democracy", why can't christian inhabitants of east Jerusalem vote?
The values of Israel are racist and genocidal - as were those of the former South African apartheid state. I could call South African values bigoted and inhuman, without being accused of hating all white folk, or even all those of Dutch ancestry.
Of course, it is in the interest of Israel's national agenda and ethos to conflate their political raison with the Jewish identity. They have, in fact, been conducting just that PsyOp since Herzl.
Hebrew is like Arabic - they are roughly as close as German and Danish, or Provencal Occitan and Catalan.
Neither Arabic nor Hebrew possess written vowels beyond Alif, with places and stresses for these accomplished through an elaborate system of diacritical punctuation. This is more stressed in Arabic, where the replecation of the exact tonal and accent production is regarded as protecting Koranic recitation from "innovation".
Because it tells the truth, which is contrary to Israeli values....be-tachblt ta`aseh lekh milchmh... "Through deception you can wage war, with this advice comes victory."
Sparta and Athens were repressive societies, that successfully kept equal rights for women and the liberation of slaves out of the western Aegean for another 200 years.
A mere 59 years before, Cyrus the Great liberated Babylon and released it's captive peoples, encoding this in the law of the Empire. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrus_cylinder
The Zoroastrian creed of Darius and Xerxes - the Achaemenid line - was that of upholding the precepts: Good Word, Good Thought, Good Deed. This was the core of worship and daily conduct of the devotee to God (Ahura Mazda).
"Darius, the Great King, King of Kings, King of Countries, son of Hystaspes, the Achaemenid. Saith Darius the King: This is the kingdom which I posses from the land of the Sakas on this side of Sogdiana as far as Kush, from India to Sardis. Over this Ahura Mazda has granted me dominion, he who is great above all the Gods. May Ahura Mazda protect me and my Royal House."
At this time, the Spartans were still obsessed with sodomy, and destroyed their girl-babies.
If you keep on excusing, you eventually give your blessing to the slave camp, to cowardly force, to organized executioners, to the cynicism of great political monsters; you finally hand over your brothers~~Albert Camus
There is no subject more restricted nor more controlled in the United States than a critical discussion of Israel. Balanced argument is ignored while each word is parsed -- and condemned. It's strange that we are free to rant and rave and point out the war crimes of our own administration -- of all other administrations throughout the world -- but not those of Israel. The few who dare to question the damage Israel has wrought throughout the Middle East for decades are immediately labeled "anti-Semitic," and are in danger of losing their friends, jobs, their reputations and, if they persist, their country -- for America has zero tolerance for those who recognize Israel's brutality.
Why is this? Are not crimes against humanity just that, regardless of who is committing them? For example, when one-and-a-half million human beings are imprisoned like caged animals, with no food, electricity, medical care, clean water, and then are exterminated like so many insects -- cut to pieces, burned to a crisp with illegal weapons banned by the Geneva Conventions -- is that not a crime against humanity? Are the men, women and children trapped behind the walls of Gaza with nowhere to run -- nowhere to hide -- not human?
Kill Them All
If you've been listening to the Israeli leadership for the past 60 years, the last 10 years -- the last year -- you know very well that Palestinians are many things, but not human. In 1982, former Likud leader and prime minister Menahim Begin said Palestinians "are beasts walking on two legs." The next year, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defense Forces Raphael Eitan gloated, "When we have settled the land, all the Arabs will be able to do about it will be to scurry around like drugged cockroaches in a bottle." And, in 1988, Yitzhak Shamir, a Likudnik elected Prime Minister twice, told the settlers taking over the Palestinian land, "The Palestinians will be crushed like grasshoppers...heads smashed against the boulders and walls."
But it was our own Evangelical, oxy-moronic (sic) Judeo-Christian (sic) cloven-hoofed Pat Robertson, who chats often with God who gave us the real lowdown on Israel's "moral" savagery. Robertson explained God's rationale to his 700 Club members in May 1985...
"The wars of extermination have given a lot of people trouble unless they know what was going on. The people in the land of Palestine were very wicked. They were given over to idolatry; they sacrificed their children; they had all kinds of abominable sex practices; they were having sex, apparently, with animals; they were having sex men with men, and women with women; they were committing adultery, fornication; they were worshipping idols, offering their children up; and they were forsaking God.
"God told the Israelites to kill them all -- men, women and children, to destroy them. And that seems to be a terrible thing to do. Is it? Or isn't it? Well, let us assume there were 2,000 of them, or 10,000 of them living in the land, or whatever number there was of them. I don't have the exact number. Pick a number. God said, 'Kill them all.' . . . the
I come from a (non-Jewish) minority that has suffered and prospered alternatively, over centuries of Islamic regimes. I take exception to the "established fact" that "exterminating" anybody is a significant or defining characteristic of Islam.
There's no real basis for conversation or understanding, if this is insisted upon as a priori.
Muslims lived peacefully - mostly - with a protected and prospering Jewish minority in their midst for 1400 some-odd-years.
There is current, recent hostility - directly attributable to European Jews confiscating land, destroying property, restricting travel and commerce and denying sufffrage to the Arab (Christian and Muslim) population of Palestine.
This is animosity is entirely based on behavior - not race or ethos. It is actually Israeli insistence of a racial component that fuels this perception - because it plays into their hands.
So. If you insist on a point-of-view that is crafted by two-generations of Zionist psyops, there is little left to say.
Most Palestinians don't want to kill anybody. Period.
A truly one-state solution, that privileges no minority or majority with an ethno/racial/religious priority by the state, and democratic inclusion at the executive and parliamentary level would satisfy all concerns.
That's good enough for Denmark, Malaysia and Canada. Why the Israeli exception? The political model there creates violence against the natural-born generations you cite. Inclusionism - which could be effected by re-allocating a fraction of the USD 3 billion annual the US gifts upon Israel - would create a Canada or Denmark on the eastern shore of the Mediteranean. Instead of a latter-day Apartheid state, that shares the aggressive ethnological and racial ideology of Nazi Germany (yes, I went there), the Belgian Regime in the former Congo or Turkmenistan in the last decade.
God is a distraction, in conflict, for the easily misled.
The crusades weren't created by Urban II for the sake of religion. It turned European feudal aggression outward, rather than destructive Baronial internecine conflicts that diffused wealth and power of Crown and Church.
Ordinarily, land, water, commerce, power and the instruments of wealth are the objectives of an aggressor. By diverting these claims to the religious, a great distraction from the venality of their objective can be made, obfuscating intent and enlisting others with a claim of the righteous.
Israel was not created for religion - it founders were secular, and largely militant socialists.
Let us lay to rest the idea of a people returning to homeland. If you are so dismissive of religion, you cannot possibly support a claim that is substantiated in the mythology of peripheral scriptures!
There is no historical record of a Roman or Arab expulsion of Hebrew or Aramaic peoples from the region. None Zilch. Never.
Whatever claims a bunch of people named Cohen from Poland have on Philistia, it is no more tangible than my own claim to a homestead in the north on the central Asian steppe - where my Scythian forbears ruled for 4,000 years.
Back to "religious" fuel for the conflict. The Arabs of Palestine have always had at least 2-3 different Muslim minorities, and nearly as many principal christian sects, along with a jewish-arab minority. Certainly at settled peace with each other throughout th eOttoman period, and mostly before.
Hamas was created by Shin Bet - to split Palestinian power with a minority fringe fundamentalism. This was imported from Egypt, where the fringe Muslim Brotherhood was under constraint. Create enough oppression, and in desperation, a population will be radicalized. Israel created the condition, then sponsored the introduction of MB affiliated qazis to the territories around the first intifada. This was the hope and objective of Israeli military intelligence, who could then stage "defensive" operations against an indigenous pople - taking their land, and MOST IMPORTANTLY, their fresh-water aquifers.
All of this can be demonstrated by the historical record, and the application of the principle: Cui bono?
...Failure? Someone wound up with a whole lot of opium and heroin, and a bunch of corporations made a killing from a gusher of absurd and lucrative contracts.
That sounds more like just another day at the office than failure to me--considering the criminal organizations involved and their blood soaked gravy train.
Gen. Stanley McChrystal's shakedown reminds me of a classic bit of black comedy from my IT days, when "consultants" would show up to my festering tumor workplace du jour bearing, "innovate solutions"...
I used to think, "How come these bozos are so happy when this big top is weeks--or even days--away from total failure?"
After watching well groomed people printing out "Standard Operating Procedures" and preparing PowerPoint presentations, it hit me: "I get it. The whole damn show is a scam. We're all just pretending to be busy until the checks start to bounce. And then it will be time to do it all again somewhere else."
That's why Polish Jews were restricted to the Ghetto. They were selfish, and "couldn't share," as you say.
You see now?
I hope someday, you get the option to "share" like that. Maybe you will remember you foolish words as you uncle is bombed at work, by Irgun. As your family is herded at gunpoint into lorries and shipped off the small orange grove that shades the graves of your past 7 generations. Maybe then you'll think: "All these people want me to do is share..." Forty years later, your infant grandson will be murdered by illegal white-phosphorous bombardment. Maybe if he had shared more, he wouldn't have caused that awful war crime.
Israel belongs to Jewish Diaspora in the same way that South Africa belonged to the Bores.
Theft, Opression, Murder.
And now, most of the world understands this - the tide has turned against the hideous Zionists - exposed as the enemies of everything possibly decent and human - their shiny enclave built on a pile of skulls.
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What, lying on surveillance claims?
What should he lie on? Is it more comfortable than a latex-based memory-foam?
Chicago or Rio? 18 of 94 Votes HA! FAIL!!!
For f*cks sake! Cornfed lard-white arses, or mocha SuperTangas?
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&source=hp&q=rio&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
What were those people even thinking! Have you seen Chicago? No thanks, Amerikkka.
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&safe=off&um=1&sa=1&q=chicago&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g10&start=0
Beetles? What I want to know is, where are the Lesbian Rapist Robots, as promised?
In that language, if you ask for a HAM sandwich, nobody BETTER know about it!
The US gives USD 7 million a day to Israel. That is the root of the regions discontent - a stolen land, enforcing a racial/ethnic exclusionary policy by force of arms. Then, the opressor constantly plays the role of threatened victim.
If it's such a fucking "democracy", why can't christian inhabitants of east Jerusalem vote?
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/
All the above is false.
Israel targets children with American weapons, and has murdered at least 1,435 since 2000.
Quit reading Bill Krystol, and get out of the house more often. Just because the brainwashing is free, doesn't mean you HAVE to take one!
Because Israel kills babies, and Iran has rude opinions.
I said "Israeli" not "Jewish".
The values of Israel are racist and genocidal - as were those of the former South African apartheid state. I could call South African values bigoted and inhuman, without being accused of hating all white folk, or even all those of Dutch ancestry.
Of course, it is in the interest of Israel's national agenda and ethos to conflate their political raison with the Jewish identity. They have, in fact, been conducting just that PsyOp since Herzl.
Hebrew is like Arabic - they are roughly as close as German and Danish, or Provencal Occitan and Catalan.
Neither Arabic nor Hebrew possess written vowels beyond Alif, with places and stresses for these accomplished through an elaborate system of diacritical punctuation. This is more stressed in Arabic, where the replecation of the exact tonal and accent production is regarded as protecting Koranic recitation from "innovation".
Point taken. Thanks!
Athens, however, practiced mandatory veiling and seclusion of women and their ban from public life.
Because it tells the truth, which is contrary to Israeli values. ...be-tachblt ta`aseh lekh milchmh... "Through deception you can wage war, with this advice comes victory."
Context, Schlomo.
I am responding to the "300" comment - not justifying the current IRI. But I don't suppose understanding that suits your agenda.
Sparta and Athens were repressive societies, that successfully kept equal rights for women and the liberation of slaves out of the western Aegean for another 200 years.
A mere 59 years before, Cyrus the Great liberated Babylon and released it's captive peoples, encoding this in the law of the Empire.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrus_cylinder
The Zoroastrian creed of Darius and Xerxes - the Achaemenid line - was that of upholding the precepts: Good Word, Good Thought, Good Deed. This was the core of worship and daily conduct of the devotee to God (Ahura Mazda).
"Darius, the Great King, King of Kings, King of Countries, son of Hystaspes, the Achaemenid. Saith Darius the King: This is the kingdom which I posses from the land of the Sakas on this side of Sogdiana as far as Kush, from India to Sardis. Over this Ahura Mazda has granted me dominion, he who is great above all the Gods. May Ahura Mazda protect me and my Royal House."
At this time, the Spartans were still obsessed with sodomy, and destroyed their girl-babies.
Gee,
Look the other way, for Israel.
Look the other way, for India.
Maybe proliferation is not the real issue, and they will find the excuse to demolish Persia - by hook or by crook.
http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/Voices.php/2009/07/19/fading-into-mist
July 19th, 2009 3:15 PM
Sheila Samples
There is no subject more restricted nor more controlled in the United States than a critical discussion of Israel. Balanced argument is ignored while each word is parsed -- and condemned. It's strange that we are free to rant and rave and point out the war crimes of our own administration -- of all other administrations throughout the world -- but not those of Israel. The few who dare to question the damage Israel has wrought throughout the Middle East for decades are immediately labeled "anti-Semitic," and are in danger of losing their friends, jobs, their reputations and, if they persist, their country -- for America has zero tolerance for those who recognize Israel's brutality.
Why is this? Are not crimes against humanity just that, regardless of who is committing them? For example, when one-and-a-half million human beings are imprisoned like caged animals, with no food, electricity, medical care, clean water, and then are exterminated like so many insects -- cut to pieces, burned to a crisp with illegal weapons banned by the Geneva Conventions -- is that not a crime against humanity? Are the men, women and children trapped behind the walls of Gaza with nowhere to run -- nowhere to hide -- not human?
Kill Them All
If you've been listening to the Israeli leadership for the past 60 years, the last 10 years -- the last year -- you know very well that Palestinians are many things, but not human. In 1982, former Likud leader and prime minister Menahim Begin said Palestinians "are beasts walking on two legs." The next year, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defense Forces Raphael Eitan gloated, "When we have settled the land, all the Arabs will be able to do about it will be to scurry around like drugged cockroaches in a bottle." And, in 1988, Yitzhak Shamir, a Likudnik elected Prime Minister twice, told the settlers taking over the Palestinian land, "The Palestinians will be crushed like grasshoppers...heads smashed against the boulders and walls."
But it was our own Evangelical, oxy-moronic (sic) Judeo-Christian (sic) cloven-hoofed Pat Robertson, who chats often with God who gave us the real lowdown on Israel's "moral" savagery. Robertson explained God's rationale to his 700 Club members in May 1985...
To go with Amerikkka's new uniform - the Brown Shirt.
Before you keep demonstrating how little informed you are, begin reading here:
http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/09/22/ali-hattar-israels-thirst-for-the-niles-water/
Then, keep going.
There is no peace process. There never was.
Yeah.
I come from a (non-Jewish) minority that has suffered and prospered alternatively, over centuries of Islamic regimes. I take exception to the "established fact" that "exterminating" anybody is a significant or defining characteristic of Islam.
There's no real basis for conversation or understanding, if this is insisted upon as a priori.
Muslims lived peacefully - mostly - with a protected and prospering Jewish minority in their midst for 1400 some-odd-years.
There is current, recent hostility - directly attributable to European Jews confiscating land, destroying property, restricting travel and commerce and denying sufffrage to the Arab (Christian and Muslim) population of Palestine.
This is animosity is entirely based on behavior - not race or ethos. It is actually Israeli insistence of a racial component that fuels this perception - because it plays into their hands.
So. If you insist on a point-of-view that is crafted by two-generations of Zionist psyops, there is little left to say.
Most Palestinians don't want to kill anybody. Period.
A truly one-state solution, that privileges no minority or majority with an ethno/racial/religious priority by the state, and democratic inclusion at the executive and parliamentary level would satisfy all concerns.
That's good enough for Denmark, Malaysia and Canada. Why the Israeli exception? The political model there creates violence against the natural-born generations you cite. Inclusionism - which could be effected by re-allocating a fraction of the USD 3 billion annual the US gifts upon Israel - would create a Canada or Denmark on the eastern shore of the Mediteranean. Instead of a latter-day Apartheid state, that shares the aggressive ethnological and racial ideology of Nazi Germany (yes, I went there), the Belgian Regime in the former Congo or Turkmenistan in the last decade.
God is a distraction, in conflict, for the easily misled.
The crusades weren't created by Urban II for the sake of religion. It turned European feudal aggression outward, rather than destructive Baronial internecine conflicts that diffused wealth and power of Crown and Church.
Ordinarily, land, water, commerce, power and the instruments of wealth are the objectives of an aggressor. By diverting these claims to the religious, a great distraction from the venality of their objective can be made, obfuscating intent and enlisting others with a claim of the righteous.
Israel was not created for religion - it founders were secular, and largely militant socialists.
Let us lay to rest the idea of a people returning to homeland. If you are so dismissive of religion, you cannot possibly support a claim that is substantiated in the mythology of peripheral scriptures!
There is no historical record of a Roman or Arab expulsion of Hebrew or Aramaic peoples from the region. None Zilch. Never.
Whatever claims a bunch of people named Cohen from Poland have on Philistia, it is no more tangible than my own claim to a homestead in the north on the central Asian steppe - where my Scythian forbears ruled for 4,000 years.
Back to "religious" fuel for the conflict. The Arabs of Palestine have always had at least 2-3 different Muslim minorities, and nearly as many principal christian sects, along with a jewish-arab minority. Certainly at settled peace with each other throughout th eOttoman period, and mostly before.
Hamas was created by Shin Bet - to split Palestinian power with a minority fringe fundamentalism. This was imported from Egypt, where the fringe Muslim Brotherhood was under constraint. Create enough oppression, and in desperation, a population will be radicalized. Israel created the condition, then sponsored the introduction of MB affiliated qazis to the territories around the first intifada. This was the hope and objective of Israeli military intelligence, who could then stage "defensive" operations against an indigenous pople - taking their land, and MOST IMPORTANTLY, their fresh-water aquifers.
All of this can be demonstrated by the historical record, and the application of the principle: Cui bono?
...Failure? Someone wound up with a whole lot of opium and heroin, and a bunch of corporations made a killing from a gusher of absurd and lucrative contracts.
That sounds more like just another day at the office than failure to me--considering the criminal organizations involved and their blood soaked gravy train.
Gen. Stanley McChrystal's shakedown reminds me of a classic bit of black comedy from my IT days, when "consultants" would show up to my festering tumor workplace du jour bearing, "innovate solutions"...
I used to think, "How come these bozos are so happy when this big top is weeks--or even days--away from total failure?"
After watching well groomed people printing out "Standard Operating Procedures" and preparing PowerPoint presentations, it hit me: "I get it. The whole damn show is a scam. We're all just pretending to be busy until the checks start to bounce. And then it will be time to do it all again somewhere else."
http://cryptogon.com/?p=11134
You are unbelievably offensive and ignorant.
That's why Polish Jews were restricted to the Ghetto. They were selfish, and "couldn't share," as you say.
You see now?
I hope someday, you get the option to "share" like that. Maybe you will remember you foolish words as you uncle is bombed at work, by Irgun. As your family is herded at gunpoint into lorries and shipped off the small orange grove that shades the graves of your past 7 generations. Maybe then you'll think: "All these people want me to do is share..." Forty years later, your infant grandson will be murdered by illegal white-phosphorous bombardment. Maybe if he had shared more, he wouldn't have caused that awful war crime.
Israel belongs to Jewish Diaspora in the same way that South Africa belonged to the Bores.
Theft, Opression, Murder.
And now, most of the world understands this - the tide has turned against the hideous Zionists - exposed as the enemies of everything possibly decent and human - their shiny enclave built on a pile of skulls.
Loaded question. Get a show on Fox or CNBC.