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Radio-Controlled Cyborg Beetles Become Reality

holy_calamity writes "DARPA's plans to create brain chips for insects so they can be steered like an RC plane are bearing fruit. Videos show that a team at Berkeley can use radio signals to tell palm-sized African beetles to take off and land, and to lose altitude and steer left or right when in flight. They had to use the less-than-inconspicuous giant beetles because other species are too weak to take off with the weight of the necessary antenna and brain and muscle electrodes."

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  1. I for one by Johann+Public · · Score: 4, Funny

    welcome our new remote control beetle overlords!

    1. Re:I for one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I am swarmed with the feeling that this will bug a lot of people.

    2. Re:I for one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Those are some bad puns.

    3. Re:I for one by tinkertim · · Score: 4, Funny

      What, no lasers?

    4. Re:I for one by Datamonstar · · Score: 1

      And these are some bad cockroaches. And other bad bugs.

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    5. Re:I for one by Fuger · · Score: 2, Funny

      Didn't you RTFA? Lasers are too heavy due to power requirements. Marshmallow launchers, on the other hand...

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    6. Re:I for one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why cant we do this to politicos and lawyers then?

    7. Re:I for one by commodoresloat · · Score: 2, Funny

      Of course it stings people; this is a war technology and it flies in the face of diplomacy and peace. We should be able to listen to our Beatles records in our VW bugs rather than collecting new weapons like a scarab collects shit. This ticks me off!

    8. Re:I for one by Mr2cents · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Me too. Any country that spends more on weapons than on education should be called a developing nation.

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    9. Re:I for one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The puns... they hurt my brains!!!

    10. Re:I for one by Dystopian+Rebel · · Score: 2, Funny

      ... look forward to attending the Reunion Concert that we never had.

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    11. Re:I for one by Digital+Vomit · · Score: 5, Funny

      Patience, grasshopper.

      Oh...I've said too much...

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    12. Re:I for one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      bzzzzzzzzzzzzt!

    13. Re:I for one by Gravitron+5000 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Why cant we do this to politicos and lawyers then?

      For politicos, it's because they would need a brain to attach the electrodes to.

    14. Re:I for one by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      As a cyborg myself (I have a device implanted in one of my eyes), I do NOT welcome my insect cyborg "bretheren". Yes, I'm a specist and proud of it. Human cyborgs RULE (or we did when cyborg Dick Cheney was VP).

      Down with the buggy cyborgs!

    15. Re:I for one by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Buggy software in buggy cyborgs...this could end well...

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    16. Re:I for one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Remember these are African giant beetles. They can just drop coconuts on everyone.

    17. Re:I for one by known_ID · · Score: 1

      Lemmings just got a new dimension.

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    18. Re:I for one by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      >> Radio-Controlled Cyborg Beetles Become Reality
      >
      > welcome our new remote control beetle overlords!

      New? Humans have long since mastered controlling other humans with memes -- ideas specialized in creating an internal mental model of reality that drives real-world activity that boosts the spread of the meme.

      You didn't think that God actually exists, or that single-payer, socialized medicine, was actually good, right?

      I humbly await a downmod driven by the meme defense mechanism inside your brain. By downmodding me, you think you are properly slapping me according to your internal worldview, but you're actually simultaneously attempting to hide criticism of your meme as well as buttress, via defense, your emotional involvement in said meme, which is to say, the internal worldview.

      So I humbly await the actual, physical activity to be generated by your body to defend your meme.

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    19. Re:I for one by Ihmhi · · Score: 1

      All this talk of lasers and radios and whatnot, and no one else is freaked out by the fact that there's beatles the size of your goddamned hand? o_o

    20. Re:I for one by Arthur+Grumbine · · Score: 1

      Me too. Any country that spends more on weapons than on education should be called a developing nation.

      That sound you hear is the buzzing of a hive of puns flitting over your head.

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  2. Smaller, smaller, smaller... by Alwin+Henseler · · Score: 2, Interesting
    FTS:

    "They had to use the less-than-inconspicuous giant beetles because other species are too weak to take off with the weight of the necessary antenna and brain and muscle electrodes."

    So, as technology advances: smaller electronics, radio parts, electromechanical components, power source -> smaller state-of-the-art RC toy. How long until you can have your own, remote-controlled army of fruit flies? 5 years? 10? 20?

    1. Re:Smaller, smaller, smaller... by ciderVisor · · Score: 1

      How long until you can have your own, remote-controlled army of fruit flies?

      Do they let gay flies into the army these days ?

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    2. Re:Smaller, smaller, smaller... by blueZ3 · · Score: 1

      Don't ask, don't tell!

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  3. Name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Large? For Beetles.
    Benevolent? Probably not.
    Cyborg? Check.
    I suggest we call these the Big Bad Beetleborgs.

    1. Re:Name by JordanL · · Score: 1

      Most people here are probably too old or too young to get that reference.

    2. Re:Name by Dekker3D · · Score: 1

      and then we coat them in various molten metals to get even stronger beetle..borgs!

  4. Yo dawg, I heard you like flying beetles... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... so I put a, oh fuck it.

    1. Re:Yo dawg, I heard you like flying beetles... by Coren22 · · Score: 2, Informative

      I like how this is marked +1 informative. should be funny, but oh well.

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  5. FINALLY. by straponego · · Score: 3, Funny

    At last we can breathe a little easier, secure in the knowledge that flying cockroaches are watching over us at all times.

    1. Re:FINALLY. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At last we can breathe a little easier, secure in the knowledge that flying cockroaches are watching over us at all times.

      Cockroaches aren't beetles!

  6. Sweet, but needs a lot of work still by Fuger · · Score: 4, Insightful
    This is really cool, but there seem to be some serious limitations. (Yes, I know that's kind of the definition of "prototype.")

    "I'm sceptical about their ability to do surveillance for the following reason: no one has solved the power issue."

    If you can't monitor what they're doing without being in the same room, then the range is very small. On the other hand, if this could be scaled up to larger animals, perhaps the power would cease to be an issue. However, it does seem like the relative lack of sophistication present in these insects is what allows this control, in part.

    "It's not entirely clear how much control a beetle has over its own flight," Hedrick says. "If you've ever seen a beetle flying in the wild, they're not the most graceful insects."

    Still, if they can get the surveillance issue figured out, this could represent a significant advance is Search and Rescue -- use insects or small animals to access places that humans can't (collapsed buildings, landslides, etc.)

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    1. Re:Sweet, but needs a lot of work still by JimboFBX · · Score: 5, Interesting

      What is amazing if you think about it is how far and fast insects can go with so little energy consumption. In contrast, a simple little radio...

    2. Re:Sweet, but needs a lot of work still by timeOday · · Score: 1

      When I read about progress along these lines I always think about this story about Iran, which resulted in mockery from all corners of the globe.

    3. Re:Sweet, but needs a lot of work still by plastbox · · Score: 1

      Oh. My. God.

      I see why people are spying on Iran, the picture at the bottom of the article.. It's the Emperor! *gasp*

    4. Re:Sweet, but needs a lot of work still by GradiusCVK · · Score: 4, Funny

      if this could be scaled up to larger animals, perhaps the power would cease to be an issue

      I say we strap a diesel generator and a surveillance suite on an elephant. It's my understanding that even if somebody notices him in the room, they'll still act like they don't.

    5. Re:Sweet, but needs a lot of work still by WoRLoKKeD · · Score: 1

      If you can't monitor what they're doing without being in the same room, then the range is very small. On the other hand, if this could be scaled up to larger animals, perhaps the power would cease to be an issue.

      Personally, something about surveillance tigers doesn't sit too well with me.

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    6. Re:Sweet, but needs a lot of work still by Rogerborg · · Score: 1

      if this could be scaled up to larger animals, perhaps the power would cease to be an issue.

      Sharks. Although then you've got to find power for the laser beam.

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    7. Re:Sweet, but needs a lot of work still by pisto_grih · · Score: 1

      mini wave-power generator.

    8. Re:Sweet, but needs a lot of work still by maxume · · Score: 1

      A simple little crystal radio can power itself using the signal...

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    9. Re:Sweet, but needs a lot of work still by RobVB · · Score: 1

      How far and how fast can your radio go?

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    10. Re:Sweet, but needs a lot of work still by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or 800 lb gorillas.

    11. Re:Sweet, but needs a lot of work still by jbezorg · · Score: 1

      How far and how fast can your radio go?

      Depends on how hard you throw it.

      /rimshot

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    12. Re:Sweet, but needs a lot of work still by russotto · · Score: 1

      Personally, something about surveillance tigers doesn't sit too well with me.

      You're just an anti-Mac bigot.

    13. Re:Sweet, but needs a lot of work still by InsertWittyNameHere · · Score: 1

      How far and how fast can your radio go?

      That obviously depends on the beetle.

    14. Re:Sweet, but needs a lot of work still by drinkypoo · · Score: 1, Interesting

      If you can't monitor what they're doing without being in the same room, then the range is very small.

      I can't find a cite right now (too much bogus news clogging google) but I believe the American embassy in Russia was spied upon (audio) by bouncing a directed radio wave off of a strip of metal embedded in a piece of artwork hung in one of the offices.

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    15. Re:Sweet, but needs a lot of work still by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Okay, here is a citation. There was a microphone and an antenna in there. With a little MEMS work, though, you could put the microphone on a minuscule chip and bond it into a PCB to which wires were attached, and probably get the whole thing down to the size of a SMT LED. How did I get marked troll anyway?

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    16. Re:Sweet, but needs a lot of work still by FrankieBaby1986 · · Score: 1

      Should the elephant be pink?

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    17. Re:Sweet, but needs a lot of work still by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The fatal flaw in your elephant in the room observation though, is though one won't pay any mind to the elephant a whirring diesel generator strapped to it would surely get my undivided attention. The bright side you could use peanut oil as the generator fuel source.

  7. I wonder... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Funny

    If this project will turn out better than "Acoustic Kitty" did...

    We've always wanted to be a fly on the wall; but having your secret spy weapon get eaten by an insectivorous plant would be pretty embarrassing.

    1. Re:I wonder... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If this project will turn out better than "Acoustic Kitty" did...

      Military animals are way too wacky too work, the list goes on:

      "Project Pidgeon"
      "Bat Bomb"
      "Anti-tank Dog"

      Tragedies, everyone of them.

    2. Re:I wonder... by hedge49 · · Score: 1

      Or having the RC Beetle you've just spent $1.4MM wiring and sent on a Top Secret Critical National Security Surveillance Mission, become infatuated with a pile of mule shit, and there goes the op. And think about it, if each bug has his or her own handler, what kind of network will be necessary to loft a believable swarm? Can't you imagine 4000 trailers full of gear in Nebraska tasked with infesting Osama's kid's quince? These guys really ought to read Foundation again.

  8. 5th Element anyone? by Sorny · · Score: 1

    This is right out of The Fifth Element. Excellent!

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    1. Re:5th Element anyone? by JimboFBX · · Score: 2, Informative

      Are you on a "The 5th Element" scavenger hunt or something? ;)

    2. Re:5th Element anyone? by Cassius+Corodes · · Score: 1

      Next on the list is magical stones inside of an opera singer

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    3. Re:5th Element anyone? by KermodeBear · · Score: 1

      More like something out of We3.

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    4. Re:5th Element anyone? by camperdave · · Score: 1

      Not one, or two, or three, but four! Four stones

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    5. Re:5th Element anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Four stones and seven Lilu's ago...

    6. Re:5th Element anyone? by Chruisan · · Score: 1

      No moderator points or I'd mod this as funny!

  9. Who knows? by Tibia1 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Maybe these things will be moving by themselves soon...

  10. Old news by Sepiraph · · Score: 2, Informative

    The video was posted on March 07, 2008.

    1. Re:Old news by commodoresloat · · Score: 1

      Well, yeah, the beetles still move pretty damn slow.

  11. Ahh... by robbrit · · Score: 1

    Palm as in palm of your hand, here I was thinking palm tree. That would certainly be "less-than-inconspicuous"!

  12. beetles... by fireball84513 · · Score: 2, Funny

    beetles really creep me out, let me know when i can get a brain chip thingy for my dog so he will stop taking a shit on the grass and instead dump his load in the sandbox like hes supposed to

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  13. Sharper Image by Dudeman_Jones · · Score: 1

    I wonder when I can buy myself one of these. It's only a matter of time before you can buy it in the Sharper Image.

  14. Finally! by superdave80 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Radio-Controlled Cyborg Beetles Become Reality

    Well, it's about damn time. You know how long I've been waiting for this day?

    /wipes away a single tear

  15. Like, how old is that tech? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh man, I had a radio-controlled Beetle back in 1981. Way to go with those tax dollars, DARPA.

  16. Shame this is not genetic engineering by QuantumG · · Score: 1

    We're still decades (centuries? maybe, if there's roadblocks) away from being able to create a sense organ for radio and training an animal to follow commands received via it. Of course, then someone will want the communication to two way so you can see through the bug's eyes, etc. Before you know it you've equipped a social insect with a massive evolutionary advantage which it uses to form the most fearsome hive mind, flies into space and takes over the galaxy. Gah, then we have to flight bugs in space, eww.

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    1. Re:Shame this is not genetic engineering by martin-boundary · · Score: 4, Funny

      Gah, then we have to flight bugs in space, eww.

      So, you don't want citizenship, do you?

    2. Re:Shame this is not genetic engineering by melikamp · · Score: 1

      Why fight them? We can upload our minds into the process distributed inside the bugs' network and finally leave this god-forsaken corner of Virgo, and move into Shapley, where all the action is.

    3. Re:Shame this is not genetic engineering by Philip_the_physicist · · Score: 1

      I don't mind alien bugs, but if they start sucking out brains I'm going to kill myself rather than see how bad the timeline is.

    4. Re:Shame this is not genetic engineering by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I see this as a step into a dangerous direction. Next generations of this technology will use smaller equipment carrying insects and will pick them according to their un-suspiciousness ("theater"-local species) and adversaries who are afraid of being "bugged" will probably use insecticides to prevent this tactics from working. Then, military will create insecticide-resistant strains of insects and before we turn around, the world will be swamped with bazzilions of pests with no way to control them!

      Just restrain from messing with anything that could potentially run away and strive unchecked without your daily support.

  17. Car anology by Cryacin · · Score: 1

    So you'd have a remote controlled Volkswagen then?!?

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    1. Re:Car anology by Philip+K+Dickhead · · Score: 1

      Beetles? What I want to know is, where are the Lesbian Rapist Robots, as promised?

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  18. Coconuts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    being African Beetles, can they carry coconuts?

    1. Re:Coconuts by OolimPhon · · Score: 1

      You do realise that coconuts don't come from Africa?

  19. Best. Band Name. Ever. by caywen · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Yes, where can I buy their mad songs on iTunes.

  20. And that is ONLY by WindBourne · · Score: 1

    Because we control the remote control on you and TOLD you to say that. Insects. Get real. That was last decades tech. So passé.

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  21. No by WindBourne · · Score: 1

    But they will bring you dung if you like.

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  22. Cyborgs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do we really need radio-controlled cyborg Beatles to become reality?

  23. Karma by lymond01 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Knowing he was the last of his species that had not been subjugated by the warring giants, Jonathan scratched his legs together harder than he'd ever done so before, creating a resonance in the air of such penetrating frequency that its fluctuations were felt not merely in the upper reaches of the planet's atmosphere, but further, deeper into space. And after many years of travel that sound, vibrating off trace molecules of hydrogen and helium floating in the ether, finally reached the highly developed and ultra-sensitive antanae of his forefathers. Upon hearing that screech of anguish, of hopeless tragedy, a world, nay, a galaxy of worlds was moved to arms.

    And so, the younger beetles were lifted from their bondage, and the race of humanity was invaded and broken apart like the guy from the last scene in Creepshow. The celebration lasted for years until discovery of the artists behind the White Album caused a moral civil war to break out. Beetlemaniacs ran rampant through the streets and in the walls and between the countertops and woodwork. And such is a species without an enemy -- the enemy comes then from within.

  24. Too bad this technology only works by chrismiceli · · Score: 5, Funny

    in Africa. Where else will giant African beatles blend in?!

  25. Paul by frozentier · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I can already tell you the Paul McCartney version will be the most popular.

  26. News at 11... by d4nowar · · Score: 1

    The Berkeley team has apparently been taken over, conquered if you will, by a master race of giant radio-controlled cyborg beetles.

    It's difficult to tell from this vantage point whether they will consume the captive Berkeley men or merely enslave them. One thing is for certain, there is no stopping them. The beetles will soon be here.

    And I, for one, welcome our new radio controlled cyborg beetles.

  27. Loved reading the comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    as nobody as much as had a hint of nausea because of the unethicality of such projects. Today bugs, tomorrow me and you.

    1. Re:Loved reading the comments by Dr.+Hellno · · Score: 1

      today, people cook cow meat for dinner. Tomorrow, they'll be cooking me and you!

      Come on.

    2. Re:Loved reading the comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're talking ethics and insects? Uh... OK

      Do you care about all the insects and bacteria you will kill while walking around today? Or all the microbes that will die because you wash them off? Consider the ethics of that you evil bastard!

    3. Re:Loved reading the comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps he's a Buddhist, and that's his mother you've killed you insensitive clod!

    4. Re:Loved reading the comments by FiloEleven · · Score: 1

      While I don't agree with the slippery slope argument, the AC has a point. All responses to him at this point have used the killing metaphor, but I don't think that's appropriate. This process is more akin to torture.

      We have rules for war that disallow such things as dumdum bullets designed to maim the hell out of people. We have rules against torture (though the US doesn't seem to concern itself with following them). It's clear to me that even in situations where killing is sanctioned, such as war, we don't like the idea of prolonged anguish.

      Now apply this to the bugs. To the extent that they have consciousness, by implanting these devices their control over their movements is subverted. The creature has no idea why it's suddenly flying around in circles and can do nothing to stop it. This is unquestionably causing stress on the beetle's nervous system, conscious or not.

      Personally, I don't think it will get to the point where it is used on people, but I could see it being used in birds and mammals like cats and dogs, all of which we know are conscious at some level higher than insects, and all of which would be adversely affected by a loss of control.

      It can be claimed that such implants will pave the way for human control of external devices, and the benefits of that outweigh ethical concerns, but it should at least be discussed IMO.

  28. Prior Art by DreamsAreOkToo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This was first done in the 5th Element when Zorg's assistant spies on the president. Obviously, according to IP law, DARPA owes the creators of the 5th Element $500 Trillion (in standard RIAA dollars).

    1. Re:Prior Art by Ksevio · · Score: 1

      So that's what, a million songs?

    2. Re:Prior Art by rpledm · · Score: 1

      Insects used for surveillance show up in Rendezvous with Rama, a novel by Arthur C. Clarke published in 1972 then followed by additional novels by Gentry Lee. The Humans use technology and the Octospiders use biology when the two species fight a war on the spaceship ... good reading. -Rendezvous with Rama (1972) ISBN 978-0-553-28789-9 -Rama II (1989) ISBN 978-0-553-28658-8 -The Garden of Rama (1991) ISBN 978-0-553-29817-8 -Rama Revealed (1993) ISBN 978-0-553-56947-6

  29. LOL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    did you work real hard to get so retarded, lol?

  30. It'll never work due to incompatable interfaces by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

    You just can't interface beetles into a low-power ZigBee mesh.

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  31. Improvization and Military use by BhaKi · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It is only a matter of time before the US uses these robotic bees to spy on "evil" nations' activities.
    I just had an interesting thought. If the same research happened in Iran or N. Korea, then the western media would have, by now, successfully crafted false stories like "Iran prepares robotic spies for spying on US". It is very sad that we are not seeing stories like "US preparing to dispatch robotic bees to all evil parts of the world."

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    1. Re:Improvization and Military use by Dr.+Hellno · · Score: 1

      man they're already working on a pain-gun. Bug spies are really the least of my concerns.

    2. Re:Improvization and Military use by John+Hasler · · Score: 1

      > It is very sad that we are not seeing stories like "US preparing to dispatch
      > robotic bees to all evil parts of the world".

      I'm sure they're out there. You just aren't reading the right blogs. Don't you know that night vision goggles allow you to see through clothing?

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    3. Re:Improvization and Military use by whyfreakout · · Score: 1

      What is really scary about this IMO is not the potential for spying, but the potential for control. You know the tech will evolve, from controlling bugs, to controlling common pets, then primates, then humans? Forget spying, think of the potential of remote controlling people - granted it sounds like a long way to go, but you know its going there. Even though it's "just a bug", controlling other living things does not seem right ...

  32. esse est percipi by benjamindees · · Score: 1

    Somehow I think George Berkeley would be somewhat disappointed to see his namesake directly manipulating living organisms for the purpose of spying on humans.

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  33. Not yet ready ... by krou · · Score: 1

    From what I've read they're many years away from perfecting this, it's too full of bugs.

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  34. Re:DARPA is giving violent people ideas. by jibjibjib · · Score: 1

    Reducing the supply of ideas will not prevent or reduce violence overall.

  35. better application for this by artecco · · Score: 1

    Still waiting for the "omg. think of the children dept" and "omg terrorists are everywhere dept." to start wiring presumed dangerous people.

    Just think of the benefits, if anything bad happens the department can just push the big red button and every dangerous man in the country automatically stops whatever they are doing and walks to the detention camp/holding cell until the the dept. in charge have figured out who had done it.

    Brilliant! I can't wait for this system to get applied in a wider area than bugs.

  36. When one of those hits your windshield... by ockers · · Score: 1

    ...look out! I lived in west Africa for many years and I'll never forget what it's like for one of those to hit the windshield while driving at night at 120Km/h. I was hoping to never see one again.

  37. WTF... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Am i the only one here who has a (ethical? moral?) problem with this entire line of research?

    Maybe i'm just thinking a little too far into the future and seeing what scary insane shit this research will end up as.

    I guess i'm glad i'll be long dead by the time that mess gets here.

    Hey future... HA HA! Sucks to be you!

    captcha: listens (wow. thats bizarre)

    1. Re:WTF... by jcr · · Score: 1

      I'll admit it creeps me out. Not that I have any problem with slicing and dicing bugs for science, but the whole area of brain control of any species, especially when that research is government funded really bothers me.

      -jcr

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    2. Re:WTF... by John+Hasler · · Score: 1

      Except that it appears that they don't actually have brain control. They just poke the beetle to make it move.

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  38. Beetles today, people tomorrow. by Sibko · · Score: 1

    Beetles today, people tomorrow.

    1. Re:Beetles today, people tomorrow. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here here... strange, everybody on /. complains about Big Brother watching but when it comes to Big Brother controlling only a very small minority mention it.

    2. Re:Beetles today, people tomorrow. by milosoftware · · Score: 1
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    3. Re:Beetles today, people tomorrow. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Beetles today, people tomorrow.

      Mancurian Canidate

  39. Re:DARPA is giving violent people ideas. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Soon other people will be doing the same thing, using DARPA's leadership, and terrorism using that method will be common. In the entire history of the world, the U.S. government is the biggest originator of violence. The U.S. government has invaded or bombed 25 countries since the end of the 2nd world war. The U.S. has more citizens in prison than farmers. Weapons investors like Cheney and his friends and the Bush family want continuous war.

    *slap* Shut up and make a bug joke.

  40. RADIO-CONTROLLED CYBORG BEETLES! by bmecoli · · Score: 1

    RADIO-CONTROLLED CYBORG BEETLES!
    RADIO-CONTROLLED CYBORG BEETLES!
    Beetles with some brain chips... BEETLE POWER!

    Sorry, I couldn't help myself. *makes a pitch to Warner Bros.*

  41. North Korea and Iran ARE EVIL by tjstork · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Seriously, why do you have to live in a stupid bubble that says a total dictatorship backed up by concentration camps isn't evil? These countries aren't like, ho hum, the USA, where you call yourself oppressed because your daddy didn't give attention. These are countries where you call yourself oppressed because you said you were hungry and the 5 year plan said you had more food than ever, or you said that you were unhappy and Allah should provide.

    I'm so sick of hearing people put the USA on the same moral ground as places like that. We aren't like that, and we aren't like that because we have people that do the work of keeping us not like that. There's cultural institutions that have been put in place, educational traditions. Granted, liberals are tearing all that down and replacing it with the sort of self indulgent crap that invariably leads to a sense of entitlement about property and ultimately a dictatorship class, but, they haven't been successful yet.

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    1. Re:North Korea and Iran ARE EVIL by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      In other words, "we're not as evil as them so we're not evil at all". Sorry, but any nation with secret police or laws requiring secret police, even if you call them "plainclothesmen" or "undercover agents", is a police state.

      Torturing prisoners is evil. I'm glad the present leader stopped the practice.

      A nation where a citizen can be arrested without charge on his own soil and detained indefinitely without trial (Jose Padilla) is NOT a free country.

      A country with "free speech zones" is NOT a free country.

      Just because North Korea is more evil than us doesn't make us not evel, only less evil.

    2. Re:North Korea and Iran ARE EVIL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Granted, liberals are tearing all that down and replacing it with the sort of self indulgent crap that invariably leads to a sense of entitlement about property and ultimately a dictatorship class, but, they haven't been successful yet.

      Really what was the point of that last sentence? You make a perfectly reasonable point that anyone with sense would agree with, about how some fools exaggerate the US's faults to ridiculous comparisons with totalitarian dictatorships. Then you you accuse your current political opponents of, guess what..

    3. Re:North Korea and Iran ARE EVIL by religious+freak · · Score: 1

      Granted, liberals are tearing all that down and replacing it with the sort of self indulgent crap that invariably leads to a sense of entitlement about property and ultimately a dictatorship class, but, they haven't been successful yet.

      Had me up until here, man... "liberals" have built this country as much as "conservatives" have...

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    4. Re:North Korea and Iran ARE EVIL by amplt1337 · · Score: 1

      Granted, liberals are tearing all that down and replacing it with the sort of self indulgent crap that invariably leads to a sense of entitlement about property and ultimately a dictatorship class, but, they haven't been successful yet.

      Right. North Korea and Iran got where they are because of EVUL LIBRULS. Name one single society in which property entitlement from a progressively wealthier population led to a totalitarian dictatorship.

      Anyway, the GP was commenting about news media. Someone's come up with a creepy spying technology that involves 1) doing BIZARRE MIND CONTROL on living things (near as I can tell, site is /.'d) and 2) has significant anti-civil-libertarian implications. The GP pointed out, quite rightly, that the double-standard which exists in journalism says that when we do it, it's gee-whiz tech, but if a State Enemy did it, we'd be seeing scare stories (if we saw anything at all), talking about how we're the targets, instead of the domestic population that probably would be.
      None of that's to defend the DPRK or Iran (though really, the political situations in those two are NOT commensurate), just to point out that nobody seems to be questioning the creepy-factor of TIA-now-improved-with-swarms-of-flyspies! Do we *really* think the same people who passed the PATRIOT Act and still carry out illegal wiretaps can be trusted to use this technology responsibly?

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    5. Re:North Korea and Iran ARE EVIL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's the best post I've read in weeks. I wish I had an account!

  42. A Question about the video in TFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The voice narration for the video in TFA sounds like a very good text-to-speech synthesizer. Any pointers to more info about that specific text-to-speech synthesizer would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

  43. This is awesome by Jay+Tarbox · · Score: 1

    I was afraid there was going to be stupid tether wire, but NO TETHER. Truly remote controlled this time.

  44. How do you debug it? by Arimus · · Score: 1

    Would you need an addbug to troubleshoot it?

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    1. Re:How do you debug it? by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      You debug it with a shoe. Didn't you see Fifth Element?

  45. Re:DARPA is giving violent people ideas. by arethuza · · Score: 0

    "U.S. government is the biggest originator of violence" While I don't spend a lot of time defening the USA - that comment is pretty dubious. Consider the amount of harm inflicted on the people of the world by the Nazis, Soviets or the Chinese Communist party against what the USA has done.

  46. Next steps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nice.
    Next step would be to scale up, make it rob a bank for me and suicide.

  47. I Wanna Hold Your Waldo by tverbeek · · Score: 1

    I, for one, welcome our new Fabricated Four overlords!

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  48. Re:DARPA is giving violent people ideas. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Us is still no. 1. American landmines are still killing people to this day.

  49. Battery Life by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So if the remote runs out of batteries do you need more.... Beetlejuice?

  50. Tags missing by claq · · Score: 1

    Fifth Element, Zorg

  51. crude by kwikrick · · Score: 1

    Their control method seems very crude to me. They have no control over the bugs little brain at all. If you want it to take off, give it an electric jolt, and it will fly away. Like hitting cow with a stick. Sure, that works. If you want it to stop, give it a bigger jolt, and it will drop out of the air. Like hitting a someone over the head with a bigger stick. Left and right: shock one wing so it will twitch and not work properly for a moment while the other wing goes on, and voila, steering. This is not neuro-science, but animal cruelty.

    By the way, something similar, only more funny, has been done with humans recently: http://thekeyidea.blogspot.com/2009/08/controlling-navigation-by-ear-pulling.html

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  52. Re:My advertisement for conservatives by pwfffff · · Score: 1

    LMAO, looks exactly like the GNAA posts.

    I hope YOU realize what a useless, batshit crazy troll you are, because it's blindingly obvious to the rest of us.

  53. it's about damn time. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it's about damn time.

  54. No problem by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

    I'm sure we could wire directly into their nervous system and use an ArduinoBT to act as the brain. That way you just put a smartphone paired to the Arduino in the politico's pocket (which can also handle the heavier processing like translating text to be spoken into muscle movements) - you send commands via SSH, that's beamed to the "brain" and the politico says something smart, votes on a bill, goes on a killing spree, etc.

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  55. PETA by Das+Auge · · Score: 1

    So long as PETA doesn't get involved, the issue of remote controlled animals will go fine.

  56. Re:My advertisement for conservatives by tjstork · · Score: 1

    LMAO, looks exactly like the GNAA posts.

    Actually, it was meant to be a take-off of newsmax. Besides, I do not endorse racist content in any way. Just because you hate white people doesn't mean that I have to.

    because it's blindingly obvious to the rest of us

    Whose the "rest of us"? Liberals don't speak for the people, they want to arrange them in a way they think is best for them, but you don't echo their demands, believe in their culture, or support their causes, you know, that guns, god, and religion, country, community, family, and hard work stuff. Liberals are just totalitarian shills for would be dictators behind the scenes.

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  57. Re:My advertisement for conservatives by tjstork · · Score: 1

    LMAO, looks exactly like the GNAA posts.

    It was meant to be a takeoff of Newsmax posts.

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  58. Won't someone please... by clone53421 · · Score: 1

    think of the insect children!

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  59. What would Jesus do? by JustNiz · · Score: 1

    Is it just me or does anyone else think messing with creatures in this way is off-the-scale barbaric and shouldn't be done whatever the reason?

    It really scares me that there's apprarently no limit to the depths governments and universities will sink in the name of money or whats laughably called 'defence' (read: to kill more people more efficiently).

    How far will mankind go towards the worst visions of the future before enough decent people say 'no more'?

  60. Re:DARPA is giving violent people ideas. by PitaBred · · Score: 1

    I don't know about you, but I'm all for remote controlled bugs instead of ridiculous cold-war style WMDs that are useless in the types of wars that are forseeable in the near future.

  61. breaking news by Device666 · · Score: 1

    China's Red Army are now increasing their food supply. This way China creates a shortage of beetles. Now beetles become so expensive, that it's no more efficient too use beetles for espionage.

  62. What's next? by REALMAN · · Score: 1

    How about when they make one of those chips for us? I can imagine being forced to watch "The View" 24/7.
    Or maybe not... HeeeeelllllllPPPP!!!

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  63. Oh sure, you're all laughing now... by Mr.G5 · · Score: 1

    Just wait until the radio-controlled cyborg Ringo Starr is chasing you down the street with super-human speed and strength. More unfortunate yet, it won't make him a better drummer.

  64. Assassin Bugs by handy_vandal · · Score: 1

    This weaponized bio-technology will give a whole new meaning to assassin bugs.

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  65. Yo Dawg by Patman64 · · Score: 1

    I heard you liked bugs, so I put a bug in yo bug so you can crash while you crash.

  66. Strange Behaviour.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So when the flies stop banging themselves against windows and start following me around the house, I'll reach for the spray..

  67. One Small Step for Assassination... by nomentanus · · Score: 1

    Great, now transfer the tech to small birds, add a tiny bit of gelegnite, and send your new weapon at the throat of whatever head of state you wish. No more slow news days! I can't wait 'till the home kit comes out...

    Isn't it great the govt publicizes new tech like this so widely?