Epic win! I love those jokes about the engineer, the mathematician, and the physicist, because right now I'm still in high school but am majoring in EE in the fall, and most of my family is engineers and a lot of my friends are also going to major in engineering so it's fun making fun of physicists. Nothing against physicists really, in fact I love physics.
Hmm, that is true, and part of the problem as I have noticed. I do know that there is a huge list of memory leaks that were fixed for Firefox 3 so hopefully this is not the case in Firefox 3 when it finalizes. The time when I had 700+MB of RAM, I had probably opened hundreds of pages and had 20ish tabs open at any given time, and there was probably some caching and stuff going on. I think part of the problem might be the fact that Firefox 2 keeps a list of recently closed tabs, and these might be cached which is kind of pointless imo, but then it does capture session info properly (eg. form submission and stuff) without resending stuff so it might be necessary.
Interesting, but I'm on Windows, and either way even if its memory usage is being reported incorrectly Firefox 3 is much faster than Firefox 2. By the way, I agree that overall the whole memory issue is overblown, RAM exists to be used and doesn't help you if its unused.
Yeah, I've also noticed Firefox 2 using up to 700MB of RAM once, and it regularly goes above 200MB in daily use. I've got 2GB of RAM so it doesn't matter much that it's using that much, but the fact that it's still slow sometimes is rather annoying. Firefox 3 nightlies are much more responsive though, and now I use them more than Firefox 2 if I can help it.
(the 700MB was over around 6-7 hours of use on super Tuesday, checking all the sites and blogs and stuff, some with bad js that no doubt caused memory leaks).
They now cannot install SP1 even if they wanted to.
Actually, they can, the update is still available just not pushed automatically via Automatic Updates. Why don't you try reading the article next time? Also, for what it's worth the update installed on my computer fine, but a lot of other people on forums complained about the update causing all sorts of trouble, so it's definitely a bad update although I'm wondering why I was lucky. Maybe the x64 version is fine, but idk.
Seriously, I downloaded the Safari for Windows beta thing to use as a KHTML test platform for web development but was immediately turned off by the OS X window stylings and behaviors, as well as the extra font smoothing that went beyond the built in smoothing to make everything look really blurry and ugly. From what I've seen, iTunes on Windows is the same way although I have never installed that piece of junk on my computer. In contrast, whenever I've used Office for Mac at school it acts just like any other Mac application, and sometimes I even preferred it over the Windows version.
Now, I'm going to conjecture wildly and say it's Apple's arrogance that causes it to completely disregard all Windows GUI conventions. Most of my dislike of Apple stems from this arrogant vibe that everything should be done either their way or not at all.
I didn't realize that the 8800GTs had dropped down to the MSRP by now, so they are around the same price as the 3870. That 30% slower is definitely wrong though, it's only a little slower in some games. And if my 2900 Pro, which is slower than the 3870, can do Crysis at 1680x1050, medium/high settings at ~30fps (and that was the demo, not the final game with the 1.1 patch which supposedly improves performance considerably) then I have no doubt that the 3870 can run it fine.
If you really understand their methods, they're trying to give a more subjective rating because numbers aren't always that helpful and can be misleading/thrown off by various factors including video card company driver "cheating" to improve framerates at the cost of image quality.
Yeah, I have to agree the whole thing with Crysis is overblown, the minimum requirements are actually really low and any (intended for gaming) card made in the last two years could probably run it.
OK fine, but in general when people specify dollars they mean American dollars. Those are US prices. Btw, that sucks. Can you just buy an OEM version off newegg or even a retail? I suppose shipping would be a bitch though, probably negating any price advantage.
I never said it wasn't although perhaps you didn't mean that. What I'm saying is that given all the constant complaining about Vista on the internet, I would think that if someone was going to pirate it then they obviously want it for some reason. Also, as I said in another post people are going to be upgrading based on their needs, and most peoples' needs do not include Vista or DirectX 10. However, when they buy new computers they'll get Vista, because most people really don't care either way.
Then you wouldn't be buying Vista Home anyway, you'd get a volume license or a business version preinstalled with new computers or OEM. Either way, it's nowhere near the $300-400 people keep throwing around. Hardly anyone should be actually buying the retail full priced versions, just like any other Windows version. Most users will get it when they upgrade to a new computer that has it preinstalled, a few will use an upgrade version, and a few system builder types will get the OEM versions when they build their own. People upgrade based on their needs, and they aren't going to upgrade from XP Pro to Vista Home on a whim.
What isn't an option? I would think businesses would get volume licenses anyway. OEM is for system builders like myself. If you were going to pirate it, you might as well pirate XP or run Linux since I think if it's worth pirating for someone, it's worth paying for.
Except for the part where Vista Home Premium costs around $200, and $100 if you get it OEM when building a new computer (or not, newegg really doesn't care). And it doesn't ruin your computer, but thanks for trolling.
Stop trolling, you fail at life. Avast is also free, and doesn't have any clauses like that and in any case I am almost sure Grisoft wouldn't enforce that anyway. The Mac is never cheaper, just deal with it instead of trying to justify your ridiculous spending habits to other on slashdot. Sure, you might like OS X better (and that's OK, many do for legitimate reasons) but saying that a Mac is cheaper is bullshit, and everyone knows it. There are a ton of other free antivirus apps too, and you don't technically need one anyway if you're careful about what you download. I haven't gotten a virus in over 10 years of using Windows (since the 3.1 days). How about we factor in the cost of say, Norton for Mac then with your estimate since we're being so fair and balanced? That's $50/year so + $100 for two years, and your Macbook is more expensive again.
Really? The benchmarks I've seen put it at a fair bit faster than the 8800 Ultra, which makes sense considering it's got two GPUs. And uh, the 8800 Ultra costs $700, this costs $450, so I don't know what crazy inside deals you've got but there is no way you could get another of those for way less than one of these.
Just fyi, the word you're looking for is aesthetic. Ascetic is a synonym for spartan or abstinence from wordly pleasures. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asceticism
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Epic win! I love those jokes about the engineer, the mathematician, and the physicist, because right now I'm still in high school but am majoring in EE in the fall, and most of my family is engineers and a lot of my friends are also going to major in engineering so it's fun making fun of physicists. Nothing against physicists really, in fact I love physics.
Haha I agree completely, except the general rule of thumb is that predicting your own burial is a guarantee that you will be modded up.
Hmm, that is true, and part of the problem as I have noticed. I do know that there is a huge list of memory leaks that were fixed for Firefox 3 so hopefully this is not the case in Firefox 3 when it finalizes. The time when I had 700+MB of RAM, I had probably opened hundreds of pages and had 20ish tabs open at any given time, and there was probably some caching and stuff going on. I think part of the problem might be the fact that Firefox 2 keeps a list of recently closed tabs, and these might be cached which is kind of pointless imo, but then it does capture session info properly (eg. form submission and stuff) without resending stuff so it might be necessary.
Interesting, but I'm on Windows, and either way even if its memory usage is being reported incorrectly Firefox 3 is much faster than Firefox 2. By the way, I agree that overall the whole memory issue is overblown, RAM exists to be used and doesn't help you if its unused.
Yeah, I've also noticed Firefox 2 using up to 700MB of RAM once, and it regularly goes above 200MB in daily use. I've got 2GB of RAM so it doesn't matter much that it's using that much, but the fact that it's still slow sometimes is rather annoying. Firefox 3 nightlies are much more responsive though, and now I use them more than Firefox 2 if I can help it. (the 700MB was over around 6-7 hours of use on super Tuesday, checking all the sites and blogs and stuff, some with bad js that no doubt caused memory leaks).
Actually, they can, the update is still available just not pushed automatically via Automatic Updates. Why don't you try reading the article next time? Also, for what it's worth the update installed on my computer fine, but a lot of other people on forums complained about the update causing all sorts of trouble, so it's definitely a bad update although I'm wondering why I was lucky. Maybe the x64 version is fine, but idk.
(Sorry, I couldn't resist) His sarcasmeter- it's OVER 9000!!!!!!!!!
Seriously, I downloaded the Safari for Windows beta thing to use as a KHTML test platform for web development but was immediately turned off by the OS X window stylings and behaviors, as well as the extra font smoothing that went beyond the built in smoothing to make everything look really blurry and ugly. From what I've seen, iTunes on Windows is the same way although I have never installed that piece of junk on my computer. In contrast, whenever I've used Office for Mac at school it acts just like any other Mac application, and sometimes I even preferred it over the Windows version. Now, I'm going to conjecture wildly and say it's Apple's arrogance that causes it to completely disregard all Windows GUI conventions. Most of my dislike of Apple stems from this arrogant vibe that everything should be done either their way or not at all.
I didn't realize that the 8800GTs had dropped down to the MSRP by now, so they are around the same price as the 3870. That 30% slower is definitely wrong though, it's only a little slower in some games. And if my 2900 Pro, which is slower than the 3870, can do Crysis at 1680x1050, medium/high settings at ~30fps (and that was the demo, not the final game with the 1.1 patch which supposedly improves performance considerably) then I have no doubt that the 3870 can run it fine.
If you really understand their methods, they're trying to give a more subjective rating because numbers aren't always that helpful and can be misleading/thrown off by various factors including video card company driver "cheating" to improve framerates at the cost of image quality.
Radeon HD 3870 should have you covered for about $200, at least at 1680x1050.
Yeah, I have to agree the whole thing with Crysis is overblown, the minimum requirements are actually really low and any (intended for gaming) card made in the last two years could probably run it.
Wow, that sucks. I hope she was able to get a refund or sell it to someone else who wanted it.
OK fine, but in general when people specify dollars they mean American dollars. Those are US prices. Btw, that sucks. Can you just buy an OEM version off newegg or even a retail? I suppose shipping would be a bitch though, probably negating any price advantage.
I never said it wasn't although perhaps you didn't mean that. What I'm saying is that given all the constant complaining about Vista on the internet, I would think that if someone was going to pirate it then they obviously want it for some reason. Also, as I said in another post people are going to be upgrading based on their needs, and most peoples' needs do not include Vista or DirectX 10. However, when they buy new computers they'll get Vista, because most people really don't care either way.
Then you wouldn't be buying Vista Home anyway, you'd get a volume license or a business version preinstalled with new computers or OEM. Either way, it's nowhere near the $300-400 people keep throwing around. Hardly anyone should be actually buying the retail full priced versions, just like any other Windows version. Most users will get it when they upgrade to a new computer that has it preinstalled, a few will use an upgrade version, and a few system builder types will get the OEM versions when they build their own. People upgrade based on their needs, and they aren't going to upgrade from XP Pro to Vista Home on a whim.
What isn't an option? I would think businesses would get volume licenses anyway. OEM is for system builders like myself. If you were going to pirate it, you might as well pirate XP or run Linux since I think if it's worth pirating for someone, it's worth paying for.
Except for the part where Vista Home Premium costs around $200, and $100 if you get it OEM when building a new computer (or not, newegg really doesn't care). And it doesn't ruin your computer, but thanks for trolling.
I am of the opinion that the word litany is not used entirely enough these days. Good job!
Stop trolling, you fail at life. Avast is also free, and doesn't have any clauses like that and in any case I am almost sure Grisoft wouldn't enforce that anyway. The Mac is never cheaper, just deal with it instead of trying to justify your ridiculous spending habits to other on slashdot. Sure, you might like OS X better (and that's OK, many do for legitimate reasons) but saying that a Mac is cheaper is bullshit, and everyone knows it. There are a ton of other free antivirus apps too, and you don't technically need one anyway if you're careful about what you download. I haven't gotten a virus in over 10 years of using Windows (since the 3.1 days). How about we factor in the cost of say, Norton for Mac then with your estimate since we're being so fair and balanced? That's $50/year so + $100 for two years, and your Macbook is more expensive again.
Really? The benchmarks I've seen put it at a fair bit faster than the 8800 Ultra, which makes sense considering it's got two GPUs. And uh, the 8800 Ultra costs $700, this costs $450, so I don't know what crazy inside deals you've got but there is no way you could get another of those for way less than one of these.
Great, let's not derail this thread with too many puns... oops! Too late.
Just fyi, the word you're looking for is aesthetic. Ascetic is a synonym for spartan or abstinence from wordly pleasures. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asceticism
Indeed. Just being able to rip to whatever format you want without any DRM is very nice even if you never intend to use the CD again after ripping it.
Parent is a myminicity. Do not click or whatever.