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Apple Updates iPhone and iPod Touch
u-bend writes "With little publicity Apple has released new, higher-capacity models of the iPhone and iPod Touch. The new iPhone boasts 16 GB of storage and is priced at $499 (the 8 GB model remains at $399), and the new iPod Touch has 32 GB, also priced at $499. Although the price is still pretty hefty, it indicates that the capacity/price ratio on these wireless flash-based players is starting to move in the right direction."
I'm waiting for 32GB and 3G.... oh and first post.
Dammit, I had said that I didn't want an iPhone, but would like a device that was like the iPhone without the phone part.
Then Apple released the iPod Touch.
So I updated my excuse to be that it didn't have enough storage space, that I wanted at least 30GB of space before I'd make the leap.
And now they've released a 32GB version.
Now I need a new excuse explaining why I'm not going to get one...
(Seriously, though, I do intend to grab one eventually - it sounds like exactly something I'd want - but not quite yet.)
You are in a maze of twisty little relative jumps, all alike.
You know, when you say "$499 for an iPod Touch" it sounds like a lot, but then you realize: manufacturers are charging twice that for 32GB flash hard drives. It's too bad it's not packaged usefully in the Touch; otherwise I'd cannibalize one for my laptop!
"[Regarding the 'cloud,'] ownership was what made America different than Russia." -- Woz
Seriously, who fscking cares if Apple is doing a normal product refresh? I bet Dell updates the memory/hdd/etc on serveral of it's products every week, don't see that making frontpage news on Slashdot. It even scrolled across foxnews for God's sake, how insane is that? Has everyone drunk that much of Steve's acid spiked Kool-Aid?
This isn't a new product, it is just a ramp in the flash. Something EVERY flash based product does several times per year as prices and capacity get better. It is like announcing water is still wet.
Democrat delenda est
The iPhone is the same size as a current BlackBerry and millions of BB users don't find the phones bulky or fragile. The only people that think they are fragile are those that freak out on the first scratch. My BlackBerry 8830 has been kicked across the room and dropped on tile numerous times. Is it pristine? Oh no. But it still works just fine. When I get an iPhone it will be the same way. Battered and bruised, but I bet it still works.
My complaint on both products: No A2DP. Why...WHY?!! I'd go get an iTouch today if it had it. I want an A2DP player for the gym but also want an iTouch.
This seems to be an unusual year for Apple, in that most of their major innovations are in software, rather than with new gadgets and hardware. Instead of iPhones, new iMacs, etc...the real innovation I'm seeing is with iPhone software and the upcoming SDK, and the new Apple TV software. Of course, the MacBook Air is cool, but I want something powerful and it makes the MacBook Pro look much less attractive (and even dated) to me....
$100 premium for an additional 16 GB of flash on the Touch, but a $100 premium for an additional 8 GB on the iPhone. Ouch.
Although this is an unfair comparison - a decent-but-low-end 8 GB SD memory card retails for about $50; 16 GB for maybe $100. I'm not sure how the speed, power consumption, or reliability of the iPod memory compares with that of stock SD cards.
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I am talking about you, mister moderator, the guy whose modpoint I am about to waste. Rofflelol!
Shhhhhhh... you'll upset the Apple gods.
What it also indicates is that people are willing to pay extortionate amounts for flashy bits of gadget from Apple. Still.
$500 is ~£250. I'm in the UK and bought a house in October. House prices are high at the moment, and the price of an iPhone is a third of my monthly mortgage! Hmmmm, three iPhones/iPods or one mortgage payment? Oh the tough decisions.
Full Tilt
I care, so just relax already. I think a 32 GB ipod without a price increase also is worth at least looking at. Sure, it's only a normal bump in a product, but so what? I'm interested, I'm sure lots of others are interested too: The New York Times has this up today as well. You Apple haters sure are tedious, not every article needs to be about the end of the world you know.
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i drop my poor iphone all of the time. it has a ton of scratches and marks all over it. it still functions just as well, and has continually been a workhorse.
i've only had one problem, and that's lockup at a pub i visit often. unfortunately, every iphone user locks up there as well.
Now everyone lets thank Matt for being brave and sharing with the rest of the group. *group* Thanks Matt. */group*
Insert funny smart-ass comment here.
Meh... *yawn*
What else are we going to do?
Curiosity was framed, Ignorance killed the cat.
The iPod touch 8 GB is $40 cheaper and the iPod touch 16 GB is also $40 cheaper.
Why does Apple have such a high markup? Totally unnecessary, IMHO.
Ah, I see. I look silly using it, yet I hope someone will notice me using it.
Truly, you have a dizzy intellect.
I care. Sorry. Some people do. Go read a different story.
You're timing is serendipitous. I was wondering what to buy with my $600 economic stimulus check. Now I know!
I wonder how many of our kind actually notice how we tend to use tech words to describe non-tech ideas. Such as the idea of "allocating" money for purchases. While "allocate" is a perfectly valid word in this case, most non-techies would not use the word. Have you ever been talking to a non-techie about non-tech topics and watch their jaw drop at not being able to understand what you're talking about because you talk like a programmer or a hardware junkie?
Joe: I was going to compile a sandwich, but my failure to fulfill the requirements of the ingredients' dependency tree forced me to abort.
Smith: Huh?
Joe: I wanted to make a sandwich, but I didn't have any bread.
Smith: Why didn't you just say that?
Joe: while [ alive ]; do killall Smith; sleep 1; done;
I'm sorry, but until Apple gets out of their exclusive contract with AT&T, the iPhone is a no-go for me. That's a show-stopper. I absolutely, positively, detest AT&T. In the past, they've screwed up my cable service, and they've screwed up my Internet access service twice. I simply do not have any faith that the company can do anything right. Plus, having been on Verizon for several years now, I'm happy to say that I'm not under one of those oppressive contracts, and they treat me rather well.
Why Apple would deliberately lock themselves out of a HUGE customer base of other carriers is beyond me. Surely they had to realize that the short-term perks they got from AT&T aren't worth it. (At least, I hope that if they didn't, they do now.)
So there you go, that's my excuse. It will be a cold day in hell before I buy an iPhone and get on AT&T's network, and I'm not willing to risk getting a $500 phone to tinker around with using those unlocking schemes. If they want my business, they're going to have to work with my preferred carrier.
As for the iTouch, whatever. I have an 80GB iPod already, I don't see the need to get a much more expensive 30GB model.
What is a good alternative? I really want those physical dimensions, a decent-display (480-by-320 seems pretty good), WiFi, a Touch screen (not to mention some of those widgets), and at least 4gb of space.
What's out there that's worth getting?
"Sometimes a woman is a kind of religion, she can save your soul & set you free from all your sins" - Bad Examples
I'm not sure if I should feel envy or pity that you can fit your entire music library (and a few movies!) in 16GB.
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It's not the size of the iPhone/BlackBerry that inheritly makes it fragile. For the iPhone, it is the huge touchscreen. I had a phone with a large touchscreen. Those screens are fragile.
And a BlackBerry, while similar in size, is a different product. Call me when you drop your iPod on the tile, kick it across the room and it still works fine.
Your ad here. Ask me how!
Fragile is one thing the iPhone is not. In fact, it survived falling from a moving car at freeway speeds only to be run over by a semi. Other than a lot of cosmetic damage, it still works in every way.
What were you planning on doing with an iPhone?
And as for bulk, well unless you take your cell phones the way Zoolander does, the iPhone does pretty well in that regard too. From what I can tell, the only smart phone that is thinner is the Moto Q, and that is only *0.1 mm* thinner.
But you must be right that the only reason people buy an iPhone is to show it off to other people. Thanks for pointing out our vanity.
Boom Shanka
Forgive my design ignorance with this question, but would it be that hard to put in a micro platter hard drive in an ipod touch? I would love to have the screen size and functionality of an iPod touch, but refuse to buy one until storage/cost catch up to the iPod classics of today. I'm willing to purchase a thicker iPod touch if it will accommodate one of those mico hard drives. I see no reason why Apple can't do this, and it frustrates me not knowing why. So please, someone set me straight. Thanks.
My i-Pod is a 5th 80 Gigger... It is almost full of my music and movies. I switched from the 20Gig to the 80 Gig because I got sick and tired of selecting which media I wanted to sync. If I let the auto sync happen invariably, the song I wanted to listen to wasn't there.
Until there is a 160GB version of the touch I am out. I won't buy an iPhone because AT&T sucks in my area.
Those who can do... Those who can't get a certification from Cisco or Microsoft.
I think a 32 GB ipod without a price increase also is worth at least looking at.
It's a 32 GB ipod *with* a price increase. The new 32GB model costs an extra $100.
Buy.com has 2GB Creative Zen's on sale for $80. It looks like the Zen can use SD cards and those are readily available in 32+GB sizes. Is the iPod really worth all of the hype? Is it really worth $400? Is it really twice as good as the $180 32GB version of the Zen?
"Has everyone drunk that much of Steve's acid spiked Kool-Aid?"
<Looks around> Yes.
- I voted for Nintendo and against Bush
Call me when it has 3G with decent battery life. Until then I'm sticking with my Motorola Q. I travel way too much away from Wi Fi spots, and thankfully the places I do travel have great EDVO signals for the most part.
The insane part is that you're watching fox "news".
The revolution will be mocked
You're surprised at /. articles about less-than-exciting news? You must be new here...
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The very large glass face of the iPhone lends itself to a more damaged future than any BlackBerry model I've seen. My wife actually dropped her iPhone "butter side down", shattering the display. I don't think the plastic screen of my BlackBerry Pearl would do that.
But I still want an iPhone. I just want one with GPS, 3G, and modem capabilities.
No sig for you. YOU GET NO SIG!
Just remember that the only software this wonderful piece of hardware talks to is Apple's iTunes software, that does it for me. There are plenty of nice media players. They aren't as pretty as the iPod Touch, but they're a lot more versatile.
And for that kind of money you can almost get a Nokia N95, which also comes with GPS, a 3G phone, and tons of applications.
And there's still no 802.1X authentication. I grow weary of singing this song...
Clearly I forgot to equip my +5 Codpiece of Karma.
Sadly, full exchange support and 3G are still missing.
I can't wait to ditch Windows Mobile....
-ted
You mean like this? There have been tests for the glass used and the screen, and they all showed that the iPhone screen is scrath free and can be dropped 1-2 floors. Google it, I'll wait.
Of Code And Men
Gosh, I just upgraded my old MP3 player for new 2 gig model. It doesn't have a video screen, it doesn't make phone calls. It doesn't walk the dog. It doesn't shuffle. Hell, It doesn't even have a brand name on it, or on the box, or on the "instructions."
Then again it's literally one inch square, looks cool in pink aluminum, and allows me to a) copy songs (or anything) to it from any computer and b) play music.
For $30 it's EXACTLY what I need.
Guess I'm not in Apple's target market?
Three Squirrels
WTF does that mean? Apple have been shifting these units out the door as fast as they can make them. What previously was "not in the right direction" about that?
Doesn't it make you feel good to know that our freedoms are protected by politicans, lawyers and journalists.
dude jailbreak your phone and download the voice dialing app from installer
My wife, while playing a spirited game of Wii tennis, backhanded my iPod off the arm of the couch across a tile floor. No worse for the wear.
except that many people spend a lot more than 30 minutes a day in the car. and even if you dont on average; chances are you will take a road trip in it and spend 5+hours in a single sitting. also, if you buy a piece of crap you can easily spend more on fixing it, or buying another piece of crap in the near future. its not an absurd amount of money either.
there is a major difference though. if you dont also pay another seperate subscription fee for the internet and all that crap the iphone is useless. so its not just 400 anymore...
also how often do you really use your cell phone everyday? I use mine in place of a land line, and not counting calls to my girlfriend i doubt i spend 30 minutes on the thing per day. I'm not going to spend 400 on a phone that does crap I don't need it to
do because I have other things that do those things for me. Also the iphone isn't significantly better than many other phones out there now. You are trying to say that the iphone is a bentley to the blackberry curve being an acura and a razr (v3m) being a hyundai. the reality couldnt be further from the truth.
what do you spend so much time on your phone doing anyhow? 'browing the internet?' oh see I have this thing called a computer in the form of a laptop that I use when I'm at work or at home. So i cant check my email while i walk from my office to my car and while i drive home? this is a problem how? "i listen to music" oh see i just listen via my laptop/mp3 player at work and my car stereo when i drive and my home stereo when im at home.
most people Benefit from having a good cell phone more so than a good car? That part is interesting and I might agree; the problem is that you dont define what a good car or a good cell phone is. If you ask me a good cell phone is one that has reasonably good battery life, gets good reception, has plan condusive to my usage patterns, and allows me to use a headset (wired or bluetooth) with it. I don't care if it is color, plays music, makes toast, goes on the internet, plays games, etc. I care that it has good audio quality for phone calls. I would also argue that pretty much every phone out there meets this already. If I didn't have a digital camera, didnt have an mp3 player, and felt like I really needed to engage endlessly in text messages and browsing the net from my phone, sure its a good option. Other than that its just luxury crap. A better analogy would have been comparing someone spending 40K or more on a car. That's the person who should shutup.
Buying a 20K honda accord that will likely last 10+ years wihtout needing a major repair can be a decent investment for someone coming out of college (not that your car is or should be considered as such, its an asset by definition but more often its a liability).
and the difference between a 20K car and a 40k one can be a bit more pronounced. even a 14K car and a 20K car can be significant. you seem to toss those out as trivial and undetectable... i'm pretty sure you will notice the difference between a ford focus and toyota camry/honda accord, and if not today then when the ford dies in 4 years you'll notice the difference.
The other difference is lifetime, the 20K car is expected to live > 6 years, I'd expect it to live more than 8 maybe 10+
the iphone is definately not expected to live that long because a. there is no market for it when you are done with it in 2-4 years and b. because something else will come along and replace it.
I would instead redirect your argument at headphones. You'll pay 400 for iphone, who knows what for your ipod and your music and your stereo, but you wont pay even 50 bucks for a remotely non garbage pair of headphones? (realistically i would say 100$ but I'll start at 50, plus most people are going to want that same pair to be 'bad enough' to be able to use at the gym or running. Or mattresses, you only spend 8 hours a day or more lying on it. But your concern is over a cell phone.
my biggest gripe is "the difference
"Jazz isn't dead, it just smells funny" ~Frank Zappa
EdelFactor
Are you sure it doesn't support A2DP? My currently Blackberry Pearle (8130) does.
5) ONLY supports iTunes Music Store and not other, cheaper services.
blah blah more whiny bullshit blah blah
O RLY?
I extend now to you the warmest of invitations to go fuck yourself.
HTH. HAND.
"You and your third dimension."
- The included microb browser uses the same version of the gecko engine as the current Firefox3 builds, and renders anything Firefox will (except for a few sites that check user agents) just like on a desktop. It even has real Flash9 support for games and flash video.
- In the same vein, theres a complete port of pidgin for all your instant messaging needs
- The memory mounts as mass storage when plugged into a computer via microUSB (no fussy proprietary connector, no horrible manager software)
- The USB port is OTG compliant, you can connect accessories (storage devices, keyboards, etc.) with an appropriate cable.
- You can set up SSH on it; both client and server. That means SFTP/SSHFS to push/pull files from the device.
- For media playback, while there is a simple built-in player, I've come to love Canola2, which has all the bells and whistles, and uses mplayer as a backend for broad format support.
- Theres a great owners community at Internet Tablet Talk
I am a bit disappointed with the free GPS software (you can buy wayfinder if you really want), the useless little camera, and the quality of the PIM apps available, but as an internet widget/media player its nearly perfect. The core functionality is the same as the much cheaper (but slightly larger and keyboardless) N800 that takes a pair of full-size SD cards if your looking for more storage or a lower price.i've only had one problem, and that's lockup at a pub i visit often. unfortunately, every iphone user locks up there as well.
Well, stop going to pubs that serve pints to underaged iPhones.
__ Someday, but not this morning, I'll finally learn to use the preview button.
> The insane part is that you're watching fox "news".
You should try it sometime. It is called diversity of ideas, it's much more important than what passes for diversity amongst the PC leftist crowd, where everyone looks different and practices sex different but they all think in lockstep.
Me I try to consume a well balanced diet of informaton. All of the MSM outlets have serious biases so only by keeping up with all of them, plus supplementing with extensive online sources can one hope to have anything like an informed opinion. Watch CNN and Fox cover the same event, compare and contrast. Then do the same with MSNBC and ABC. Read dkos? Well go read littlegreenfootballs or NRO for some balance.
I really don't see how the argument against Fox holds up. I have watched a fair number of the presidential debates. So far the Fox hosted debates have been dramatically more useful to me, as a Republican primary voter, in deciding on a candidate. And isn't that the point of a debate at this point? Asking general election questions are a waste of limited airtime right now. ABC was also pretty darned good though with the pair they hosted back to back. CNN was pretty pitiful, especially the Youtube one. MSNBC has been so horrible I can't understand why anyone would want to appear there.
I suspect, had the Democrats the courage to appear, a fox hosted debate would have been equally useful to Democratic voters. Don't judge the quality of Fox's journalism by the blowhards they run in primetime. I can't stand Bill either, but I guess neither of should be arguing against the highest rated talking head on the air since it is obvious somebody likes to watch his gimmick.
Democrat delenda est
I am not an Apple hater, but all this publicity about an overpriced MP3 player with a non-tactile user interface, no FM-Radio, no expansion slots, etc, etc is all pretty boring to pretty much everyone except the diehards.
Where's the competition? Sansa View 32GB flash player, seen on Amazon for $350.
I stand corrected.
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I am still running two powermacs, on the same hard drive, for the past 6 years.
Since apple seems to contract large orders, changes in hardware area big deal.
Without a price increase? These higher-capacity models are $100 more than the next-highest. If they weren't, I'd be really pissed at Apple because I just bought a 16GB iTouch a about a month ago.
You got an iPod ripoff, one that's larger to boot.
I think you just let your hate for Apple blind you into making a bad decision.
Xi - yeah, that name has a history of quality devices~
I wonder if you understand the Irony of something named 'Xi' not having random shuffle?
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I'll stick with iPod Classic, 80gb for $250 or 160gb for $350, thanks.
The iPhone touchscreen is not your average touchscreen, which tend to be soft, flexible, and generally pretty fragile. This sucker is covered with a scratch-resistant material, it's practically impossible to damage the actual screen, the best you can do is scratch it. Mine is almost 6 months old and there's not a scratch on the screen (can't say the same for the rest of the device...) If the iPhone got one thing right it's the touchscreen. It's sensitive, easy to use, and hardy.
We laughed at your waste of time and space as we modded you down with our infinite moderation points.
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... that you felt the need to comment on it, and you gained /. a few cents of ad revenue in doing so.
So as strange as it sounds, thank you, it's pedantic pricks like you that keep this site alive.
... but everybody wants prosthetic iPhones on their real heads!
I stole this sig from someone cleverer than me.
I waited for them to update the software so that it was really an iPhone without the phone, instead of crippled. They did that in January. And as luck would have it, my Palm T|X started acting up last week such that it was hard to use the handwriting recognition.
Bought a 16G Touch, got it Friday. I played with an iPhone and thought it was a great little device (but AT&T -- I think not) and that had me thinking about it, but having actually used the Touch now for four days I am just astounded by how good the interface is.
Some nits when using it as a PDA (primarily: it could use a louder speaker for alarms, and the calendar system's alarm tone is fixed and so soft it's almost impossible to hear if it's in your pocket), and I've crashed several of the applications here or there, but overall it kicks the Palm's butt, and unlike the Palm the WiFi is more than just a checkbox, it is really useful.
Two thumbs up. Stuff like this makes you wonder how come Microsoft couldn't do something even remotely as good despite six major revisions of Windows Mobile.
jim frost
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"I do not avoid women, Mandrake . . . but I do deny them my essence." - Gen. Ripper
I've found that people who get their diversity from fox news, and lgf tend to be elitest, white-boy losers.
DIAF.
Until Apple lets me sign up for other that AT&T they can put the iPhone where the sun don't shine.
It's now been over 6 months and 3+ major firmware revisions, and the damn iPhone still doesn't do some of the most basic functionals of a real PDA phone:
-- No cut and paste
-- No IMAP IDLE support (The best auto-check is every 15 minutes. Gee, thanks Apple. 1995 called and wants their email features back)
-- No task list
-- No way to sync notes
-- No MMS messages.
-- Etc.
OOOO but 1.1.3 added the feature of being able to send SMS to multiple recipients. Yeah. Great. I was really waiting for that feature...so glad that put that higher on the list than any of the above. Now I can spam all my contacts and say generic impersonal things like "Happy New Year!! Best wishes!!". Ugh.
It's such a frustration for me. I want to love this device -- I really do. But until Apple stops prioritizing features for 12-year-old girls over features to make the damn thing usable by a working adult, I will continue to complain and be sad. And the worst part is that EVERYTHING I (and the others like me) want can be done in software -- it's just a matter of someone getting priorities in line.
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You have Rockbox freely available that turns out all of his supported devices in stuff WAY better than iPods
/me is an owner of a Gigabeat F20 with Rockbox, couldn't be happier.... :)
i'm talking about -music- playing ability here, don't go shoving me stuff like the ipod has wifi or a web browser or other stuff i don't need, because for me they're starting to try to cram everything into everything [lowering the quality of the overall product which has to attend to many functions, instead of perfecting the one thing it was conceived to do: play songs]
rockbox plays all your favorite formats, and your geek-enabled formats [ogg/flac] with crossfading/equalizer, nice playlists, quick, just does what it's meant to do very well.
The iPhone/iPod touch LCD is protected by a solid piece of glass. It's not like other large screen devices where the LCD can get crushed if it shares your pocket with other devices or if you sit on it.
You should try it sometime. It is called diversity of ideas
No, it's called blatant propaganda. You're entitled to your own opinion, but you aren't entitled to your own set of facts. Fox doesn't care about facts, their mission in life is being a tool for the Republican Party.
So far the Fox hosted debates have been dramatically more useful to me, as a Republican primary voter, in deciding on a candidate.
They've been great for two things: fisticuffs between Romney and McCain, and seeing who has the biggest hate on for brown people.
I suspect, had the Democrats the courage to appear
They've had the courage to boycott a blatant propaganda outlet. You can complain about Democrats refusing to debate on Fox once the Republican candidates attend a debated hosted by Al Jazeera.
Don't judge the quality of Fox's journalism by the blowhards they run in primetime.
Local Fox outlets can be quite good. Until the reporters piss of the wrong sponsor and get fired anyway.
I can't stand Bill either, but I guess neither of should be arguing against the highest rated talking head on the air since it is obvious somebody likes to watch his gimmick.
It's called being a big fish in a small pond. CNN is packed to the gills with right wing blowhards, but if you really want your fascist fact-free news, Fox News is the place to be.
If they were in there messing around with the hardware couldn't they have gone ahead and added real GPS? Maybe some 3G? They had it open already.
"Something EVERY flash based product does several times per year as prices and capacity get better."
I wish...the majority of MP3 players on the market are 8 GB or less, and this has been the case for the better part of 2 years if not more. They don't even boost flash capacity on a Christmas to Christmas cycle these days. I guess because Apple has sucked the air out of the market.
But really, when Sony recently got it together and released two great-sounding flash players without their horrible Sonic Stage crap and stupid coded limitations, they still couldn't manage to get something on the market larger than 8 GB. At a time when Creative had something on the European market with 32 GB (which was crazy expensive, sure, but it existed).
I'm still hanging on to a P.O.S. 500 MB player waiting for something good at 32 GB, which will let me finally get a decent chunk of my collection on a player for the gym.
"Although the price is still pretty hefty, it indicates that the capacity/price ratio on these wireless flash-based players is starting to move in the right direction."
It's moving all right, like a glacier on crack...
Now you are just coming out completely biased. FOX was the only television news outlet to report on the Obama Madrassa scandal. Sure, it turned out they made it up, but still. They have also recently hired Karl Rove as a commentator (I'm serious), further proving their alliance to objectivity.
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WHO ATE MY BREAKFAST PANTS?
Now you are just coming out completely biased.
That's the problem you wingnuts in a nutshell: if you don't agree with the facts, you scream bias. For gawds sake, Fox just labeled McCain a Democrat, after doing the same to Alen Specter and Tom Foley. You're a Gooper and get in trouble or displease the wingnut base, you get labeled a Democrat by Fox News.
FOX was the only television news outlet to report on the Obama Madrassa scandal. Sure, it turned out they made it up, but still.
So the other networks are bad because they fail to report made up news? Hmm.
They have also recently hired Karl Rove as a commentator (I'm serious), further proving their alliance to objectivity.
Ah, I see. Good boy, now good back to your bridge.
Your sarcasm detector is great.
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WHO ATE MY BREAKFAST PANTS?
Your sarcasm detector is great.
My sarcasm detector is fine, thank you. There are, however, a whole lot of Kool-Aid drinking Republicans out there that spout that kind of nonsense for breakfast. Case in point: Fox News.
If it's an iPod with Linux installed, it will play music off an ext2 filesystem...
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