I have to admit I was very impressed switching from RH6 to Mandrake 6. For the most part the packages are all compatable, more recent and aside from dosemu not finding my floppy drive (a downgrade fixed that) seems to be completely on. Have fun Hemmoraging on the holidays:)
mcrandello@my-deja.com rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
OK, I stand corrected there. I just can't help but thenk that since the GPL somewhat legitimizes free distrobution then a lot of people would feel less guilty about getting Joe-Bob's copy, also (to a lesser extent I suppose) that folks wouldn't have to worry about being turned in and whatnot (don't try asking about a 'free'copy of Quake2 in Alt.games.quake2 without expecting your message to be forwarded to the SPA, people there just don't find piracy funny.)
mcrandello@my-deja.com rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
Well for what it's worth I'm happy I do. Someone with such a foul attitude certainly does need something to fuel it. Just call me glad to be of assistance. Boob.
mcrandello@my-deja.com rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
I don't know about others, but with me the FDISK won't delete a logical drive in a type 82 or 83 partition. That's the big problem. There's an undocumented option with their FDISK, but they probably prefer we use as much LINUX tools as possible so that they aren't at fault in any way if we Fsck things up:)
mcrandello@my-deja.com rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
This is something that could equate to good PR for Linux. Bear with me here...
1)Now it's "easier than ever(TM)" to try out Linux, after all Microsoft has now published instructions for backing out in case you find it's not for you! Just give it a month and if you don't like it, no harm, no foul!
2)Let's say you decide to take the "Microsoft doesn't have a clue" angle (or step 1 leaves them wondering why the MS method don't work), write your own documentation on how to *correctly* remove Linux partitions and set up your HD for Windows. All of a sudden (well, after 2-3 tries the MS way) their support doesn't look so good compared to ours. Maybe I should give this Linux thing a try again real soon, because at least *they* know how to get everything back the way it was if I don't like it.
Soft Sell the Microsoft way, Whoohooo!
mcrandello@my-deja.com rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
Someone will figure out the algorithm for the cd-keys, or everyone will publish theirs. Then you shall have your wish. I wouldn't even be surprised if they take it out in their first version upgrade (similar to the 3.14 patch disabling the cd-in-the-drive requirement in Q2) Just because it's no longer the "hot potato".
mcrandello@my-deja.com rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
I think what he is trying to say is that if Q3a were released GPL today, it would take roughly 5 seconds before the source and recompiled binaries were available from just about anyone under 25 with a dsl or better conenction. They (Id) would be lucky to sell 5% of what they can by keeping it closed source. Your next door neighbor would be able to give you Q3a in exchange for 2 blank CD's. It'd be great, until ID closes shop and there are no more Quakes.
Maybe I'm wrong on all this, but your average 14-15 year old isn't going to waste time saving money for something that their freinds are all passing around for gratis.
mcrandello@my-deja.com rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
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Most of the (cheat)bots that are out there operate as a proxy on hte clients machine. The client connects to the bot, the bot connects to the server. Most initial releases have a spoiler (e.g. ratbot, if you message trhe word ratbot it says:please help me, what is a bot?). The real problem is the bots are often open source themselves in a manner of speaking, someone get ahold of the source, fixes the spoiler, and whammo, undetectable bot.
The only thing I couls see blessed binaries doing for the server is being another thorn in the side of mod authors.
mcrandello@my-deja.com rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
In this case I would say yes (not about the babies though, sicko:^)). Kudos to CNN for linking to RTMark. Even though some may disagree with the methods that they're using, or question their effectiveness as attacks, one thing is clear. RTMark is out to sully etoy's image, and I think they have a pretty good idea how to do it. By raising all this noise, even if 99% of the people don't go "sit-in" they still are sending a message that someone finds this cause worth fighting, and raises some questions about the company that Joe Public is about to buy toys for his kids from.
mcrandello@my-deja.com rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
It takes ONE mailing list to find out about these problems in advance most of the time. If their sites are worth so much money to them why can't the invest the 2-45mins each day to check this stuff out!!??
I think that's one of the crackers' points. If you browse through the attrition mirrors you notice a lot of the defacements actually leave a hotmail address telling the admin to email them for what is wrong, or stating the address of where they left the original index.
mcrandello@my-deja.com rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
Yes. We *politely* email Fatbrain and let them know that their format for distributing files doesn't work well for a lot of us and that we'd _really_ like to do business with them.
mcrandello@my-deja.com rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
That's the problem. Obsure is all I ever deal with. You are right about heirarchies, however. miningco is a pretty nice one as well. Oh, and what became of newhoo also....Just thought I'd point them out because I had almost completely forgotton about dmoz, and I keep stumbling across miningco pages from other searches, and they sem worth mentioning...
mcrandello@my-deja.com rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
First hit google. Then metacrawler. Then try it as a phrase, then add "-" terms to filter useless results. After that ask jeeves, then the imdb, ubl, mp3.com, amazo^H^H^H^H^Hbarnes&noble online, the manufacturer's sites, then give up and ask someone for it on alt.binaries.whatever.
Short answer, yes. Long answer->I'll find it if given an afternoon or two.
mcrandello@my-deja.com rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
It should be said however that people in general look at every new drug that comes out as some sort of magic bullet. Also that doctors often do prescribe mind altering drugs to people simply to see what happens.
As a child I was diagnosed as being 'hyperactive' (That's what I was told anyway). Ritalin did no good, neither did about 3 or 4 other drugs they had me try. I was a total hellion until I eventually wasn't anymore. I still have (minor) problems socially and I'll probably never know what exactly was going on in my head at 7-8. I'm not flaming you in any way, and if medication is the best way for you then I'm certainly glad it helped. There are also a lot of people out there who aren't clinically depressed and taking pills anyway, needlessly (perhaps suffering side effects).
One small point about diabetics, there are two types. Type 1's like me will always need to take insulin shots unless someone cures it. Type 2's (most diabetics)can control their diabetes through diet and exercise, so actually it does make sense to tell them to get out and walk some:-)
mcrandello@my-deja.com rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
...they're not insured. On the local news last night the announcer pointed out that many people go undiagnosed due to no health insurance/high cost of treatment, and the social stigma associated with mental illness.
On a lighter note, he followed up with a story about how Naomi Campbell was going through anger management treatment for $17k, and threw in the phrase "Temper, temper, Naomi". Heh. I do agree that drug treatments are not the way to go anyway, however...
mcrandello@my-deja.com rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
Exactly. And what's to stop someone from going onto the Usenet as Bluespower or Mcrandello, making all sorts of slanderous comments and then leave a pointer back to slashdot in their.sig, effectively ruining our credibility.
mcrandello@my-deja.com rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
<Um_Lucas>I can't seem to find an email service (a la hotmail, netscape mail, etc...) that will let you get a mail box without supplying a valid email address. </Um_Lucas>
Prontomail lets you do this. Use that from a corporate or school firewall to create a xoom.com account and you have pretty decent anonyminity (sp???). The NSA might still know who you are but most folks wanting to harass or bother you won't.
mcrandello@my-deja.com rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
You left me scratching my head there for a few- Doesn't the GPL allow programmer A to to take all the changes made to his project by programmers b-z and fold them back into his own project, still under the GPL, and thus save him the time of chasing the bugs himself?
mcrandello@my-deja.com rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
Something I'm not too worried about. Coming from a town where 1/3 of the girls wound up pregnant before they left high school I don't think quite *everyone* will be carrying about genetically enhance uber-kind.
mcrandello@my-deja.com rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
Back in my youth I got paid to peddle this rag called "Grit". Not a very informative magazine, very stupid name, but all my relatives had a subscription...
mcrandello@my-deja.com rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
no. Just the standard function key. (PF stands for programmed function)
God I wish I knew where this keyboard came from/went to. It has two rows of function keys at the top and then some other crazy keys like the ones on a modern sparq keyboard off ot the left (wish I had one here to get a better description), and IIRC the "F" keys all said "PF" on them. I figured it went to some sort of mainframe. If anyone knows anything about this beast please email me (I'll drop the thread now, promise).
Just seemed like it'd be really cool to have all my Q3 weapons on the top row and my custom says/taunts on the bottom row...
mcrandello@my-deja.com rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
When you say (PF) key, you talking about this honking big keyboard from IBM with something like an extra set of keys to the left, two rows of function keys, and a plug similar-but-different from the AT style? I got one of those at a thrift shop and want to hook it up to my PC. Does anyone know how difficult this is, if there are any specs for the keyboard online, etc.? I got two of them, the first was broken so I put some of the cooler key-caps on my PS/2 keyboard, but I got this other one just *begging* to be used...
mcrandello@my-deja.com rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
Slashdot Mirror
I have to admit I was very impressed switching from RH6 to Mandrake 6. For the most part the packages are all compatable, more recent and aside from dosemu not finding my floppy drive (a downgrade fixed that) seems to be completely on. Have fun Hemmoraging on the holidays :)
mcrandello@my-deja.com
rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
OK, I stand corrected there. I just can't help but thenk that since the GPL somewhat legitimizes free distrobution then a lot of people would feel less guilty about getting Joe-Bob's copy, also (to a lesser extent I suppose) that folks wouldn't have to worry about being turned in and whatnot (don't try asking about a 'free'copy of Quake2 in Alt.games.quake2 without expecting your message to be forwarded to the SPA, people there just don't find piracy funny.)
mcrandello@my-deja.com
rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
because people like you annoy the hell outta me
Well for what it's worth I'm happy I do. Someone with such a foul attitude certainly does need something to fuel it. Just call me glad to be of assistance. Boob.
mcrandello@my-deja.com
rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
I don't know about others, but with me the FDISK won't delete a logical drive in a type 82 or 83 partition. That's the big problem. There's an undocumented option with their FDISK, but they probably prefer we use as much LINUX tools as possible so that they aren't at fault in any way if we Fsck things up :)
mcrandello@my-deja.com
rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
This is something that could equate to good PR for Linux. Bear with me here...
1)Now it's "easier than ever(TM)" to try out Linux, after all Microsoft has now published instructions for backing out in case you find it's not for you! Just give it a month and if you don't like it, no harm, no foul!
2)Let's say you decide to take the "Microsoft doesn't have a clue" angle (or step 1 leaves them wondering why the MS method don't work), write your own documentation on how to *correctly* remove Linux partitions and set up your HD for Windows. All of a sudden (well, after 2-3 tries the MS way) their support doesn't look so good compared to ours. Maybe I should give this Linux thing a try again real soon, because at least *they* know how to get everything back the way it was if I don't like it.
Soft Sell the Microsoft way, Whoohooo!
mcrandello@my-deja.com
rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
Someone will figure out the algorithm for the cd-keys, or everyone will publish theirs. Then you shall have your wish. I wouldn't even be surprised if they take it out in their first version upgrade (similar to the 3.14 patch disabling the cd-in-the-drive requirement in Q2) Just because it's no longer the "hot potato".
mcrandello@my-deja.com
rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
I think what he is trying to say is that if Q3a were released GPL today, it would take roughly 5 seconds before the source and recompiled binaries were available from just about anyone under 25 with a dsl or better conenction. They (Id) would be lucky to sell 5% of what they can by keeping it closed source. Your next door neighbor would be able to give you Q3a in exchange for 2 blank CD's. It'd be great, until ID closes shop and there are no more Quakes.
Maybe I'm wrong on all this, but your average 14-15 year old isn't going to waste time saving money for something that their freinds are all passing around for gratis.
mcrandello@my-deja.com
rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
Most of the (cheat)bots that are out there operate as a proxy on hte clients machine. The client connects to the bot, the bot connects to the server. Most initial releases have a spoiler (e.g. ratbot, if you message trhe word ratbot it says :please help me, what is a bot?). The real problem is the bots are often open source themselves in a manner of speaking, someone get ahold of the source, fixes the spoiler, and whammo, undetectable bot.
The only thing I couls see blessed binaries doing for the server is being another thorn in the side of mod authors.
mcrandello@my-deja.com
rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
They're also targeting peak shopping hours. That 3 hours might well be the busiest_
mcrandello@my-deja.com
rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
In this case I would say yes (not about the babies though, sicko :^)). Kudos to CNN for linking to RTMark. Even though some may disagree with the methods that they're using, or question their effectiveness as attacks, one thing is clear. RTMark is out to sully etoy's image, and I think they have a pretty good idea how to do it. By raising all this noise, even if 99% of the people don't go "sit-in" they still are sending a message that someone finds this cause worth fighting, and raises some questions about the company that Joe Public is about to buy toys for his kids from.
mcrandello@my-deja.com
rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
"As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one."
:-)
-Mike Godwin
But see, you also forgot about Quirk's exception;
"Quirk's Exception: Intentional invocation of this so-called "Nazi Clause" is ineffectual."
Nice try though
For more info, including how to properly invoke, use and skirt Godwin's law please see the Godwin's Law FAQ"
mcrandello@my-deja.com
rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
It takes ONE mailing list to find out about these problems in advance most of the time. If their sites are worth so much money to them why can't the invest the 2-45mins each day to check this stuff out!!??
I think that's one of the crackers' points. If you browse through the attrition mirrors you notice a lot of the defacements actually leave a hotmail address telling the admin to email them for what is wrong, or stating the address of where they left the original index.
mcrandello@my-deja.com
rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
Yes. We *politely* email Fatbrain and let them know that their format for distributing files doesn't work well for a lot of us and that we'd _really_ like to do business with them.
mcrandello@my-deja.com
rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
That's the problem. Obsure is all I ever deal with. You are right about heirarchies, however. miningco is a pretty nice one as well. Oh, and what became of newhoo also....Just thought I'd point them out because I had almost completely forgotton about dmoz, and I keep stumbling across miningco pages from other searches, and they sem worth mentioning...
mcrandello@my-deja.com
rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
First hit google. Then metacrawler. Then try it as a phrase, then add "-" terms to filter useless results. After that ask jeeves, then the imdb, ubl, mp3.com, amazo^H^H^H^H^Hbarnes&noble online, the manufacturer's sites, then give up and ask someone for it on alt.binaries.whatever.
Short answer, yes. Long answer->I'll find it if given an afternoon or two.
mcrandello@my-deja.com
rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
It should be said however that people in general look at every new drug that comes out as some sort of magic bullet. Also that doctors often do prescribe mind altering drugs to people simply to see what happens.
:-)
As a child I was diagnosed as being 'hyperactive' (That's what I was told anyway). Ritalin did no good, neither did about 3 or 4 other drugs they had me try. I was a total hellion until I eventually wasn't anymore. I still have (minor) problems socially and I'll probably never know what exactly was going on in my head at 7-8. I'm not flaming you in any way, and if medication is the best way for you then I'm certainly glad it helped. There are also a lot of people out there who aren't clinically depressed and taking pills anyway, needlessly (perhaps suffering side effects).
One small point about diabetics, there are two types. Type 1's like me will always need to take insulin shots unless someone cures it. Type 2's (most diabetics)can control their diabetes through diet and exercise, so actually it does make sense to tell them to get out and walk some
mcrandello@my-deja.com
rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
...they're not insured. On the local news last night the announcer pointed out that many people go undiagnosed due to no health insurance/high cost of treatment, and the social stigma associated with mental illness.
On a lighter note, he followed up with a story about how Naomi Campbell was going through anger management treatment for $17k, and threw in the phrase "Temper, temper, Naomi". Heh. I do agree that drug treatments are not the way to go anyway, however...
mcrandello@my-deja.com
rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
From the Jihad-Jihad! dept.
mcrandello@my-deja.com
rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
Exactly. And what's to stop someone from going onto the Usenet as Bluespower or Mcrandello, making all sorts of slanderous comments and then leave a pointer back to slashdot in their .sig, effectively ruining our credibility.
mcrandello@my-deja.com
rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
<Um_Lucas>I can't seem to find an email service (a la hotmail, netscape mail, etc...) that will let you get a mail box without supplying a valid email address. </Um_Lucas>
Prontomail lets you do this. Use that from a corporate or school firewall to create a xoom.com account and you have pretty decent anonyminity (sp???). The NSA might still know who you are but most folks wanting to harass or bother you won't.
mcrandello@my-deja.com
rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
You left me scratching my head there for a few- Doesn't the GPL allow programmer A to to take all the changes made to his project by programmers b-z and fold them back into his own project, still under the GPL, and thus save him the time of chasing the bugs himself?
mcrandello@my-deja.com
rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
Something I'm not too worried about. Coming from a town where 1/3 of the girls wound up pregnant before they left high school I don't think quite *everyone* will be carrying about genetically enhance uber-kind.
mcrandello@my-deja.com
rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
Back in my youth I got paid to peddle this rag called "Grit". Not a very informative magazine, very stupid name, but all my relatives had a subscription...
mcrandello@my-deja.com
rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
no. Just the standard function key. (PF stands for programmed function)
God I wish I knew where this keyboard came from/went to. It has two rows of function keys at the top and then some other crazy keys like the ones on a modern sparq keyboard off ot the left (wish I had one here to get a better description), and IIRC the "F" keys all said "PF" on them. I figured it went to some sort of mainframe. If anyone knows anything about this beast please email me (I'll drop the thread now, promise).
Just seemed like it'd be really cool to have all my Q3 weapons on the top row and my custom says/taunts on the bottom row...
mcrandello@my-deja.com
rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
When you say (PF) key, you talking about this honking big keyboard from IBM with something like an extra set of keys to the left, two rows of function keys, and a plug similar-but-different from the AT style? I got one of those at a thrift shop and want to hook it up to my PC. Does anyone know how difficult this is, if there are any specs for the keyboard online, etc.? I got two of them, the first was broken so I put some of the cooler key-caps on my PS/2 keyboard, but I got this other one just *begging* to be used...
mcrandello@my-deja.com
rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.