Remember that video of the black-teen getting his head slammed into the car hood, while unconscious?
T*O*P*I*C Discussion Started: 07-10-2002, 2:54 PM Attorneys for a teen who was videotaped while an Inglewood police officer slammed him onto a squad car plan to file a lawsuit over the incident as public pressure mounts and various law enforcement agencies launch separate investigations. Meanwhile another man claims he too was beaten by Inglewood police officers. What do you think about the police brutality situation in Inglewood? Elsewhere? What, if anything, do you think the videotape proves?
[ a woman working for the Feds was also subject to abuse by that a-hole. Really got messed with. She was yelling at the a-hole, that she was on "his side" ]
don87654 07-16-2002, 3:27 PM Southern California cops are just plain crooked, period! I was once a State of California Correctional Peace Officer at the California Institute for Women at Frontera. We were taught in the Academy at Galt how to formulate evidence to make ourselves look good and victims to look bad. I refused to cater to this treatment and was fired by an abusive Lieutenant that was in charge of Internal Affairs at the time. Later because of my outspoken stances on this, charges were levied against me involving vehicle tampering and simple assault and I was convicted of this by what appeared to be paid police witnesses. My attorney at the time, one of the best criminal lawyers in southern California, told me to pack my bags and leave town, which I did. It took him 8 long years to get my conviction erased from court records and to get the warrant for my arrest dropped by the court so I was no longer "wanted". It does not matter where they are at....these California cops that completed the Academy in Los Angeles, or for the State, are just plain crooked--they are taught to be that way
Jbp912 07-10-2002, 6:21 PM I am a disabled military veteran. I am in my senior years and I have become cynical of police officers and the entire judicial system. There has been too much lying, cover-ups, and irresponsible behavior by law enforcement persons. It seems there is a lack of proper training, poor recruitment, and too much hubris. The bottom line is bad management and no accountability, but we live in an age of extreme mediocrity. Thank you, JBP
[ he just described Bush Jr in Iraq: irresponsible behavior & hubris ]
Patriottoo 07-10-2002, 4:20 PM This is a clear cut case of a rabid, over zealous, adreinaline pumped, and I'm suprised his eyes weren't bulging out of his head cop! The teen was OBVIOUSLY in custody when he was BRUTILIZED with the UNNECESSARY FORCE of SLAMMING his head on the trunk lid of the police car and then PUNCHING him FIST CLOSED in the face, by the this cop. I don't care who a person is, or what they have done, NOBODY, and I mean NOBODY deserves to be treated in that manner. Once the 'cuffs' are on, all force that was necessary to place a suspect in custody MUST STOP! I hope this maniac of a police officer is prosecuted to the fullest extent that the law allows, and receives the maxium penalty for his crimes! Only when the courts get serious and start holding those in the police agencies around the country who would engage in this type of brutality, fully responsible for thier crimes will we see an end to it! Patriot Too
Remember that incident in 2002, where there was video of the black teen being thrown on the hood of the car while unconscious?
Same kind of deal..
T*O*P*I*C Discussion Started: 07-10-2002, 2:54 PM Attorneys for a teen who was videotaped while an Inglewood police officer slammed him onto a squad car plan to file a lawsuit over the incident as public pressure mounts and various law enforcement agencies launch separate investigations. Meanwhile another man claims he too was beaten by Inglewood police officers. What do you think about the police brutality situation in Inglewood? Elsewhere? What, if anything, do you think the videotape proves?
[ a woman working for the Feds was also subject to abuse by that a-hole. Really got messed with. She was yelling at the a-hole, that she was on "his side" ]
don87654 07-16-2002, 3:27 PM Southern California cops are just plain crooked, period! I was once a State of California Correctional Peace Officer at the California Institute for Women at Frontera. We were taught in the Academy at Galt how to formulate evidence to make ourselves look good and victims to look bad. I refused to cater to this treatment and was fired by an abusive Lieutenant that was in charge of Internal Affairs at the time. Later because of my outspoken stances on this, charges were levied against me involving vehicle tampering and simple assault and I was convicted of this by what appeared to be paid police witnesses. My attorney at the time, one of the best criminal lawyers in southern California, told me to pack my bags and leave town, which I did. It took him 8 long years to get my conviction erased from court records and to get the warrant for my arrest dropped by the court so I was no longer "wanted". It does not matter where they are at....these California cops that completed the Academy in Los Angeles, or for the State, are just plain crooked--they are taught to be that way
Jbp912 07-10-2002, 6:21 PM I am a disabled military veteran. I am in my senior years and I have become cynical of police officers and the entire judicial system. There has been too much lying, cover-ups, and irresponsible behavior by law enforcement persons. It seems there is a lack of proper training, poor recruitment, and too much hubris. The bottom line is bad management and no accountability, but we live in an age of extreme mediocrity. Thank you, JBP
Patriottoo 07-10-2002, 4:20 PM This is a clear cut case of a rabid, over zealous, adreinaline pumped, and I'm suprised his eyes weren't bulging out of his head cop! The teen was OBVIOUSLY in custody when he was BRUTILIZED with the UNNECESSARY FORCE of SLAMMING his head on the trunk lid of the police car and then PUNCHING him FIST CLOSED in the face, by the this cop. I don't care who a person is, or what they have done, NOBODY, and I mean NOBODY deserves to be treated in that manner. Once the 'cuffs' are on, all force that was necessary to place a suspect in custody MUST STOP! I hope this maniac of a police officer is prosecuted to the fullest extent that the law allows, and receives the maxium penalty for his crimes! Only when the courts get serious and start holding those in the police agencies around the country who would engage in this type of brutality, fully responsible for thier crimes will we see an end to it! Patriot Too
This guy skipped all that, obsessed with the scholoarly aspect 24/7. He will probably do the same with his job, become quite wealthy, but ultimately very depressed. I wouldn't be surprised to see this guy on a suicide watch by the time he is 25 if he is not careful.
A dark note from Caltech:
- a CS prof there killed his wife with an axe, & then shot himself w/shotgun (murder suicie). I saw the report on the local news (*shudder*)
- a girl genius (Dr. Misha Mahowald, PhD student of Dr. Carver Meade VLSI pioneer), who was featured on a PBS special on Women Scientists ("Silicon Retina") developed schizophrenia during her post-doc in Europe. Ended up walking in front of a train in Switzerland & killing herself. Told to me by a Caltech Nobel Laureate's son, who was a grad student w/her @Caltech. This is inside info, a Google search will only refer to her "death"
- a xxx there told me his mother committed suicide (*shudder*)
I mean, I don't feel safe trying to do research with these people. I get the feeling of an atmosphere of "Academic Pressure". People breaking.
I went to a famous HS of high-achievers (produced 3 Nobel Laureates in its history..Literature, Physics, Economics). A famous female alumni (historian featured on ABC News) took a f**g gun & blew her brains out a few yrs back. The story goes, "she worked until she dropped, developed clinical depression" (I suspect she took the damn medication which fouled her up). Her dad was a physicist at a major university. I just found out ANOTHER daughter of a physicist (same university & HS) committed suicide: "felt her life was a failure". I found out from a parent, that there were a bunch of suicides by 60's alumni..haven't researched the details of that.
I recently talked to a Mech Eng prof @Caltech, & was freaked out by his extremely nervous "eye blinking". I got the impression, the poor guy was just plain under a LOT of pressure & overworked.
Here's the Deal.
"In order to Push the Limits, sometimes you have to EXCEED the Limits" -- Formula 1 racing
These top schools get the best students, but they their egos are in overdrive..THEY'RE TRYING TOO HARD. Try to run a car at max RPM..it will BLOW UP.
One word: Moderation.
I read that story, & was sickened. I think the quote above rings true. Without some moderation & discretion ("Discretion is the Better Part of Valor"), you can end up with BURNOUT (which I've experience) or worse..suicides.
I just learned that Caltech just admitted a 14 yr old girl (both her parents are UCLA math profs), as a GRADUATE student. I mean..come on!!
I'm a big believer in a Progressive Approach. Instant gratification & rush-jobs just isn't going to get it done. It's like a fine-wine, it takes TIME to mature.
"I grew up in the mountains. In order to climb a peak, you have to PACE YOURSELF." -- head of Ethan Allen (Pakistani immigrant), CNN interview
[ I totally agree with the responders who say a college experience has to be "savored" like a fine wine. NOT, dunking it in ONE FELL SWOOP ]
I did PhD research, & my arch rival was a real egomaniac & phony. 26 papers published as a grad student!!??..all junk, Quantity over Quality. He told me stupidly he was going to win a Nobel Prize in Engineering. Liked to enter his paper in competitions, was always in a hurry. Egomaniac & bully, "if he couldn't do it..then I couldn't do it". I calmly surveyed the field, came up with a very simple unified geometric model that explained existing research (entire field was stupidly stuck on xxx, there was a very simple geometrical-based solution right in front of them). I used calculations that a High School student could do! I basically revolutionized my field single-handedly as a grad student (it sometimes happens)..I mean beat EVERYONE ("world beater"): big name professors (even physicists who dabbled in this field).
I am making a stunning correlation (for myself): I am realizing that BOTH students @universities & researchers (PhDs) @conferences don't GOTO all the lectures!! I am stunned at the datapoints that students don't goto EVERY lecture, & complement it with a re-viewing (video, podcast, etc). When I went to University, I went to EVERY lecture, took notes, etc. Now I know why my PhD revolutionized my field.. I WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO "showed up"!!! I read EVERY PAPER in the field, figured out what they were doing (well, more importantly what they WEREN'T doing), & came up with a simple/beautiful model & calculation.
That SUSY '06 conference in Newport Beach, big name physicists & all? I was shocked when I talked to a researcher (on a major panel) & he told me he skipped one of the major evening sessions to goto the beach. "It was the only day I could experience the beach", he told me. Some people came for a quickie to deliver their invited lecture, & then took off! Most didn't hang around for the last day..it WAS a long conference almost 6 days. Someone said publicly my multimedia coverage meant that I went to more talks than many researchers! What!!?? You mean, the attendees didn't goto ALL of the talks?
[ my 1st conference back in '82 where I gave a paper @Las Vegas. The professor I roomed with, went with his Univ of Maryland buddy professor to Hooever Dam..yes, they played hookey!! Both these guys are prominent researchers in their field. His buddy gave the impression of "going thru the motions to give papers at conferences", i.e. really not doing research but the "publish or perish game". I always thought this was WEIRD, but given the datapoints in this thread about students playing hookey..I guess it extends to professors @conferences!! I'm still SHOCKED at this. Why isn't everyone working 310%. Oh wait, maybe there's something wrong with me!! I recently talked to a PhD from my university/dept, & he is like me. He tells me his daily regimen can be described as "Multiplexing Like Mad", while I call myself a Multitasking Maniac. I guess we're overachievers, & quite disfunctional ]
I mean, how do you expect to get an UNDERSTANDING of the field @conference (or course), if you just go "half way". One of my HS teachers (PhD Columbia) told me at our 20th reunion:
"I thought my students only went half-way..they didn't go ALL THE WAY"
She had HIGH expectations for her students. All my teachers were like this, someone said of a teacher (PhD Vanderbilt) "XXX had extremely high standards". Another teacher was described as a "maniac"..he was part of the New Math program @UIUC. Yeah, my HS was part of the 2 pronged development program of the New Math (the other effort was at Stanford University). My HS "produced" 3 Nobel Laureates in its History, so there was a high-pressure environment to excel.
I'm 48, & I just realized I live in a "bubble universe"..a crazy world where I go ALL OUT or else.
"Go Hard..or GO HOME!" [ Depth ] "If you're gonna go, GO BIG" [ Breadth ]
All my teachers ended up dis-illusioned. I ended up the same way. I look down upon the world as "half-assed", I literally can't function in world of "get along types" & "Good Enough is the Enemy of Excellence".
Many of my classmates (PhD Stanford, Princeton, etc) & myself never even bothered to pursue Academic careers. It's a severely flawed system (some of the postings reflect that, the bad teaching profs & all)
"The difference between a tenured Professor & a Terrorist, is that you can negotiate with a Terrorist" -- told to me by an ex-professor (Dept Head, XXX Engineering, Univ of Michigan), an inside joke
This post is now flowing into another topic: "Academia is a Scam". Believe me, anyone who's been through it KNOWS. Can "Book Knowledge" (good grades, attendance, etc) be a measure of how a student performs in the "Real World", i.e. "Real World Knowledge"? There a
Totally by accident, I attended a major Physics conference (in preparation for the CERN LHC/Large Hadron Collider coming online next year, very exciting!) & did some tests with New Mediums : video-podcast, Sony PSP, LiveWebCast over a mobile-blog. This was done with the approval of the Program Chair, who's a young UC Irvine physics professor who understands the value of Technology.
Through a major Physics blog, a USC physics prof (string theorist) mentioned the SUSY '06 conference (4th International Conference on Supersymmetry and the Unification of Fundamental Interactions). I contacted the Program Chair, & he invited me down to do some "New Medium" tests:
[ incidentally, that USC prof had a meeting last year with other profs to discuss the new "blogging technologies". There is the USC Annenberg Center, which addresses technology & communication. So, USC is "with it" ]
I recorded lectures, plenary-sessions on HD (high definition) video & other video devices (digital cameras w/video capability). I put them up on a video-blog (& its corresponding video-podcast over iTunes Music Store, just do a search on "SUSY")
Some of these videos are really LONG, like 240mb. I also delivered them over a Sony PSP (another big-market portable video-player, 12 million out there). Some of the videos were delivered on site, within 15 minutes of taping..near-live as iTunes video-clips. There are some QTVR panoramas of some conference events. There was a LIVE delivery of pics/videos at a Textamerica.com mobile-blog:
[ there are some video interviews, & some hi-res pics of talk presenters ]
There were 2 Nobel Laureates in attendance (Burton Richter/Stanford & F. Wilczek/MIT), & many big names from the world of theoretical/experimental particle-physics. Some of them were on that NOVA episode on String Theory (Brian Greene/Columbia host). Being an Elec Eng PhD, it was exciting to experience a technical conference in another field. I was given recognition at the conference, & links from their website here
[ I am currently looking for a business-entity to take my "Proof of Concept", & deliver this to next year's SUSY '07 Conference in Karlsruhe/Germany. And, to ALL technical engineering/science conferences. Please contact me ]
"A better informed Public is more likely to appreciate/understand, & therefore publicly fund Science"
Physics (& Science in general), like Offroad Racing, suffers from an image problem. It's a niche-market, & the general public just isn't aware of their "activity/events". As the result, they both suffer from Funding issues (in racing, it's known as "Sponsorship"). Offroad Racing has been termed "Our Little Wonder in the Desert". Similary, Science could be termed "Our Little Wonder in a World of Idiots". You may recall the SSC (Superconducting Super Collider) that was cancelled in the 80's, which was a major blow to US program in particle-physics. There was NOT a public outcry, like you see now of the HST (Hubble Space Telescope) being de-commissioned. If the Public really understood/appreciated particle-physics, perhaps the SSC could have been resurrected. Science really is getting the "shaft" in USA, & I think the Slashdot crowd is concerned about this.
I realized halfway thru my project, that these lectures over video-iPod could have value as a Research Tool. The conference attendees could re-view the lectures, especially the Plenary sessions. I even talked to a Harva
by ennuiner (144711) on Monday September 04, @09:40PM (#16042059)
As a graduate student and college instructor, I would argue that one thing that students will lose from skipping the lecture is the horizontal social connections between students. Even if there's no discussion or opportunity to stop the teacher and ask questions, attending class gives students the opportunity to forge social relationships before and after class that allows them to compare notes and share experiences. Students could time-shift a lecture and discuss it later, but it seems less likely, and there's something to be said for talking when the lecture is still fresh in their minds. I also wonder how attentive students would be watching a podcast compared to sitting in a lecture hall. Sharing the same physical space demands at least the appearance of attentiveness.
In short, "Interactivity". My Dad was a university-professor, who led an Exchange Program between a major university (UIUC, 1st ranked ahead of MIT in terms of federally funded research) & Moscow Academy of Sciences. He & his Russian counterpart both agreed, there was a lack of communication/interaction among students & researchers.
The technology is producing New Mediums. One must be careful, that they take away the *interaction* part of learning. You could have a situation like a University of Phoenix, a totally isolated learning experience: in front of a computer or iPod.
There is a metaphor to Biology:
"I'm amazed at the INTERCONNECTEDNESS of Nature" -- David Suzuki, "Carl Sagan of Biology"
He's referring how ecosystems function because of interaction. Bees pollinate flowers, etc. Students need to stimulate each other, & even teachers. R. Feynman (famous Caltech physicist) once said "I would never take a faculty position without Teaching. If I'm out of ideas, my students will give me some".
by LuYu (519260) on Monday September 04, @09:47PM (#16042094)
Now, if there were a discussion or a question and answer session, the student would have a reason to attend. The student could learn from the professor's vast experience, and the student could ask questions about specific things not covered in the "lecture" -- or textbook or video or podcast or whatever.
Caltech had an undergrad physics course entitled Physics X, taught by the famous Nobel physicist Richard Feynman.
It was a totally INTERACTIVE format, where the undergrads would ask RPF physics question. He would solve it, so the students could see how he approached the solution. "Learning from Example". It totally reversed the Teacher -> Student communication path. Relevant RPF anecdote: "I would never take an Academic position without teaching. If I'm running out of ideas, the students in the courses I teach give me Ideas". Interesting. Is it Teacher -> Student or Student -> Teacher? It's both.
There was a similar anecdote in the movie "The Red Violin", is the Teacher teaching the Student or vice-versa (or both). The quote went like "sometimes the Teacher learns from the Student".
Another thing you should take-away from the experience is the importance of diversity. If you took that money and split it among five companies, one of them being an amazing success like Apple (which has gone up 8x in five years), and the other four being dismal failures that went bankrupt, you still would have made 60% returns on your entire portfolio.
By investing in only one company, you really put yourself at a disadvantage.
Diversifued Portfolio ("Generalized") VS One-Trick-Pony ("Specialized").
My take on this is that SGI was a One-Trick-Pony ("Specialist") who didn't adapt to a Dynamic/Changing Market. As other people have pointed out, the PC shit-boxes gradually became more powerful & had superior bang/buck.
A Botanist I know told me something from Evolutionary Biology:
"The *generalists* in the plant kingdom _survived_, since they were able to recover from natural disasters. The *specialists* couldn't adapt..& died out"
Basically, SGI was doomed by their mindset of high-end specialty market. They need a Steve Jobs ("it starts from the top"..leadership) to make crucial business strategic decisions. Apple is a hardware company..who has become an Entertainment company. The latter with the iPod, where it seized an opportunity with digital audio Content/Distribution. The record companies were in a crisis with illegal downloads (copyright infringement), & here comes Apple/Jobs to the rescue:.99 downloads on a portable device with a cool/hip/fashionable appeal. Now, the video-iPod has started a revolution in the Content/Distribution model for VIDEO. CBS/Comcast & NBC/DirecTV did their mega VoD (Video on Demand) deals, shortly after Apple's video-iPod experiment: 1 million videos sold in 20 days, 3 million by early December, 8 million by January 2006.
Needs & Solutions, as per Fortune Magazine
Apple was able to adapt to a Dynamic market. It found a *new* market, & capitalized on it.
Here's a good quote:
Ted Turner/CNN:
Hey, I just bought a company..I'm in the wrestling business!
Vince McMahon/WWF (?)
Hey, I'm in the _Entertainment_ business
Look at NASCAR (jumped ahead of baseball, as #2 sport in America), it's all about Entertainment.
I think the nerd-mentaility of "I'm in the computer business" (especially with SGI, "I'm in the high-end computer business") is a curse among engineer-trained folk. Video-games (exceeds revenue of the Movie Industry), downloadable music/video (iPod/iTunes), are all part of the mass-consumer Entertainment business.
Think mass-market, think Entertainment.
I think SGI's mindset ("mindless pursuit of a dead-market") will doom them.
Does anyone know how exactly they scored the Grand Challenge? I was watching the leaderboard the whole day as I was coding, and one of the CMU vehicles was the first to finish as far as I can recall...furthermore, the spread BETWEEN the top three vehicles (CMU, Stanford, CMU) seemed to vary from time to time.
I have my doubts as to the validity of the data since there were also a couple glitches during the race where all of a sudden a bunch of vehicles' mileage and stuff were kicked back by a good amount.
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I also monitored the GPS based map-tracker the entire Race. Stanley was on H1landers bumper on the upper-portion of the course (west of the 15 fwy). On the bottom part of the course (before Beer Bottle Pass), Stanley made the pass. I uploaded a few screen shots:
http://darpagc.textamerica.com/
Stanley was the 1st physical finisher.
I was involved with robotics/vision research as a grad student & I am also involved with OffRoad Racing (see http://www.jumplive.com./ I can say this years route seemed to be way easier..mostly just dirt roads. No whoop sections. Last year, it was in the Barstow area, where it can be pretty rough (all the top OffRoad Racing teams test there). Here's a sample of some REAL OffRoad Racing (there was "pausing" for the DARPA GC '05, if a 2nd vehicle got on the bumper of the 1st vehicle):
http://web.archive.org/web/20000925132425/www.seel eyracing.com/barstow/end/vgeorgel4fps3.mov
It was taken from the area known as "Mile of Danger". Could the 'bots read a "fork" in the desert?
Someone (who was part of a team for awhile) claims the DARPA GC was a sham.
https://dtsn.darpa.mil/grandc/forum/topic.asp?topi c_id=1657&forum_id=30&Topic_Title=What+a+scam%2C+r ace+wa+sno+challenge+at+all!&forum_title=Grand+Cha llenge+Event&M=False&S=
It wasn't a race, more like a rally.
I did a LiveWebCast of the SCORE Primm 300 offroad race a month ago:
http://primm300.textamerica.com/
These vehicles took an a far rougher/tougher course, even the stock VW Baja Bugs:
http://www.dezertrangers.com/iB_html/uploads/post- 1-87711-class11s.jpg
I bet one of these bugs coulda placed high (or even won) the DARPA GC. You can see this thread for more pics of the Primm 300:
http://www.dezertrangers.com/cgi-bin/ib/ikonboard. cgi?s=e3be4804ea8ddd2f033271bbc686d107;act=ST;f=1; t=27465;st=0
You can see some silty areas. Stanley woulda had a problem, the CMU Hummers probably not.
I remember seeing how MS Research Labs was lean&mean, when it started up. (professors from Academia were ditching their jobs & working at MS because it was such a superior environment over Academic bureacracy). Funny thing, now MS Research Labs has themselves become a HUGE bureacracy, with a ton of depts.
Now, Google is to MS..like MS Reserach Labs was to Academia.
MS has become Big&Bloated, just like their MS Word.
Take a hint from the spinoff from HP, called "Agilent Technologies".
Slashdot Mirror
Remember that video of the black-teen getting his head slammed into the car hood, while unconscious?
T*O*P*I*C Discussion Started: 07-10-2002, 2:54 PM
Attorneys for a teen who was videotaped while an Inglewood police
officer slammed him onto a squad car plan to file a lawsuit over the
incident as public pressure mounts and various law enforcement agencies
launch separate investigations. Meanwhile another man claims he too was
beaten by Inglewood police officers. What do you think about the police
brutality situation in Inglewood? Elsewhere? What, if anything, do you
think the videotape proves?
[ a woman working for the Feds was also subject to abuse by that a-hole. Really got messed with. She was yelling at the a-hole, that she was on "his side" ]
don87654 07-16-2002, 3:27 PM
Southern California cops are just plain crooked, period! I was once a
State of California Correctional Peace Officer at the California
Institute for Women at Frontera. We were taught in the Academy at Galt
how to formulate evidence to make ourselves look good and victims to
look bad. I refused to cater to this treatment and was fired by an
abusive Lieutenant that was in charge of Internal Affairs at the time.
Later because of my outspoken stances on this, charges were levied
against me involving vehicle tampering and simple assault and I was
convicted of this by what appeared to be paid police witnesses. My
attorney at the time, one of the best criminal lawyers in southern
California, told me to pack my bags and leave town, which I did. It took
him 8 long years to get my conviction erased from court records and to
get the warrant for my arrest dropped by the court so I was no longer
"wanted". It does not matter where they are at....these California cops
that completed the Academy in Los Angeles, or for the State, are just
plain crooked--they are taught to be that way
Jbp912 07-10-2002, 6:21 PM
I am a disabled military veteran. I am in my senior years and I have
become cynical of police officers and the entire judicial system. There
has been too much lying, cover-ups, and irresponsible behavior by law
enforcement persons. It seems there is a lack of proper training, poor
recruitment, and too much hubris. The bottom line is bad management and
no accountability, but we live in an age of extreme mediocrity.
Thank you, JBP
[ he just described Bush Jr in Iraq: irresponsible behavior & hubris ]
Patriottoo 07-10-2002, 4:20 PM
This is a clear cut case of a rabid, over zealous, adreinaline pumped,
and I'm suprised his eyes weren't bulging out of his head cop! The teen
was OBVIOUSLY in custody when he was BRUTILIZED with the UNNECESSARY
FORCE of SLAMMING his head on the trunk lid of the police car and then
PUNCHING him FIST CLOSED in the face, by the this cop. I don't care who
a person is, or what they have done, NOBODY, and I mean NOBODY deserves
to be treated in that manner. Once the 'cuffs' are on, all force that
was necessary to place a suspect in custody MUST STOP! I hope this
maniac of a police officer is prosecuted to the fullest extent that the
law allows, and receives the maxium penalty for his crimes! Only when
the courts get serious and start holding those in the police agencies
around the country who would engage in this type of brutality, fully
responsible for thier crimes will we see an end to it!
Patriot Too
Remember that incident in 2002, where there was video of the black teen being thrown on the hood of the car while unconscious?
Same kind of deal..
T*O*P*I*C Discussion Started: 07-10-2002, 2:54 PM
Attorneys for a teen who was videotaped while an Inglewood police
officer slammed him onto a squad car plan to file a lawsuit over the
incident as public pressure mounts and various law enforcement agencies
launch separate investigations. Meanwhile another man claims he too was
beaten by Inglewood police officers. What do you think about the police
brutality situation in Inglewood? Elsewhere? What, if anything, do you
think the videotape proves?
[ a woman working for the Feds was also subject to abuse by that a-hole. Really got messed with. She was yelling at the a-hole, that she was on "his side" ]
don87654 07-16-2002, 3:27 PM
Southern California cops are just plain crooked, period! I was once a
State of California Correctional Peace Officer at the California
Institute for Women at Frontera. We were taught in the Academy at Galt
how to formulate evidence to make ourselves look good and victims to
look bad. I refused to cater to this treatment and was fired by an
abusive Lieutenant that was in charge of Internal Affairs at the time.
Later because of my outspoken stances on this, charges were levied
against me involving vehicle tampering and simple assault and I was
convicted of this by what appeared to be paid police witnesses. My
attorney at the time, one of the best criminal lawyers in southern
California, told me to pack my bags and leave town, which I did. It took
him 8 long years to get my conviction erased from court records and to
get the warrant for my arrest dropped by the court so I was no longer
"wanted". It does not matter where they are at....these California cops
that completed the Academy in Los Angeles, or for the State, are just
plain crooked--they are taught to be that way
Jbp912 07-10-2002, 6:21 PM
I am a disabled military veteran. I am in my senior years and I have
become cynical of police officers and the entire judicial system. There
has been too much lying, cover-ups, and irresponsible behavior by law
enforcement persons. It seems there is a lack of proper training, poor
recruitment, and too much hubris. The bottom line is bad management and
no accountability, but we live in an age of extreme mediocrity.
Thank you, JBP
Patriottoo 07-10-2002, 4:20 PM
This is a clear cut case of a rabid, over zealous, adreinaline pumped,
and I'm suprised his eyes weren't bulging out of his head cop! The teen
was OBVIOUSLY in custody when he was BRUTILIZED with the UNNECESSARY
FORCE of SLAMMING his head on the trunk lid of the police car and then
PUNCHING him FIST CLOSED in the face, by the this cop. I don't care who
a person is, or what they have done, NOBODY, and I mean NOBODY deserves
to be treated in that manner. Once the 'cuffs' are on, all force that
was necessary to place a suspect in custody MUST STOP! I hope this
maniac of a police officer is prosecuted to the fullest extent that the
law allows, and receives the maxium penalty for his crimes! Only when
the courts get serious and start holding those in the police agencies
around the country who would engage in this type of brutality, fully
responsible for thier crimes will we see an end to it!
Patriot Too
A dark note from Caltech:
- a CS prof there killed his wife with an axe, & then shot himself w/shotgun (murder suicie). I saw the report on the local news (*shudder*)
- a girl genius (Dr. Misha Mahowald, PhD student of Dr. Carver Meade VLSI pioneer), who was featured on a PBS special on Women Scientists ("Silicon Retina") developed schizophrenia during her post-doc in Europe. Ended up walking in front of a train in Switzerland & killing herself. Told to me by a Caltech Nobel Laureate's son, who was a grad student w/her @Caltech. This is inside info, a Google search will only refer to her "death"
- a xxx there told me his mother committed suicide (*shudder*)
I mean, I don't feel safe trying to do research with these people. I get the feeling of an atmosphere of "Academic Pressure". People breaking.
I went to a famous HS of high-achievers (produced 3 Nobel Laureates in its history..Literature, Physics, Economics). A famous female alumni (historian featured on ABC News) took a f**g gun & blew her brains out a few yrs back. The story goes, "she worked until she dropped, developed clinical depression" (I suspect she took the damn medication which fouled her up). Her dad was a physicist at a major university. I just found out ANOTHER daughter of a physicist (same university & HS) committed suicide: "felt her life was a failure". I found out from a parent, that there were a bunch of suicides by 60's alumni..haven't researched the details of that.
I recently talked to a Mech Eng prof @Caltech, & was freaked out by his extremely nervous "eye blinking". I got the impression, the poor guy was just plain under a LOT of pressure & overworked.
Here's the Deal.
"In order to Push the Limits, sometimes you have to EXCEED the Limits"
-- Formula 1 racing
These top schools get the best students, but they their egos are in overdrive..THEY'RE TRYING TOO HARD. Try to run a car at max RPM..it will BLOW UP.
One word: Moderation.
I read that story, & was sickened. I think the quote above rings true. Without some moderation & discretion ("Discretion is the Better Part of Valor"), you can end up with BURNOUT (which I've experience) or worse..suicides.
I just learned that Caltech just admitted a 14 yr old girl (both her parents are UCLA math profs), as a GRADUATE student. I mean..come on!!
I'm a big believer in a Progressive Approach. Instant gratification & rush-jobs just isn't going to get it done. It's like a fine-wine, it takes TIME to mature.
"I grew up in the mountains. In order to climb a peak, you have to PACE YOURSELF."
-- head of Ethan Allen (Pakistani immigrant), CNN interview
[ I totally agree with the responders who say a college experience has to be "savored" like a fine wine. NOT, dunking it in ONE FELL SWOOP ]
I did PhD research, & my arch rival was a real egomaniac & phony. 26 papers published as a grad student!!??..all junk, Quantity over Quality. He told me stupidly he was going to win a Nobel Prize in Engineering. Liked to enter his paper in competitions, was always in a hurry. Egomaniac & bully, "if he couldn't do it..then I couldn't do it". I calmly surveyed the field, came up with a very simple unified geometric model that explained existing research (entire field was stupidly stuck on xxx, there was a very simple geometrical-based solution right in front of them). I used calculations that a High School student could do! I basically revolutionized my field single-handedly as a grad student (it sometimes happens)..I mean beat EVERYONE ("world beater"): big name professors (even physicists who dabbled in this field).
My arch riv
"80% of success is showing up"
I am making a stunning correlation (for myself): I am realizing that BOTH students @universities & researchers (PhDs) @conferences don't GOTO all the lectures!! I am stunned at the datapoints that students don't goto EVERY lecture, & complement it with a re-viewing (video, podcast, etc). When I went to University, I went to EVERY lecture, took notes, etc. Now I know why my PhD revolutionized my field.. I WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO "showed up"!!! I read EVERY PAPER in the field, figured out what they were doing (well, more importantly what they WEREN'T doing), & came up with a simple/beautiful model & calculation.
That SUSY '06 conference in Newport Beach, big name physicists & all? I was shocked when I talked to a researcher (on a major panel) & he told me he skipped one of the major evening sessions to goto the beach. "It was the only day I could experience the beach", he told me. Some people came for a quickie to deliver their invited lecture, & then took off! Most didn't hang around for the last day..it WAS a long conference almost 6 days. Someone said publicly my multimedia coverage meant that I went to more talks than many researchers! What!!?? You mean, the attendees didn't goto ALL of the talks?
[ my 1st conference back in '82 where I gave a paper @Las Vegas. The professor I roomed with, went with his Univ of Maryland buddy professor to Hooever Dam..yes, they played hookey!! Both these guys are prominent researchers in their field. His buddy gave the impression of "going thru the motions to give papers at conferences", i.e. really not doing research but the "publish or perish game". I always thought this was WEIRD, but given the datapoints in this thread about students playing hookey..I guess it extends to professors @conferences!! I'm still SHOCKED at this. Why isn't everyone working 310%. Oh wait, maybe there's something wrong with me!! I recently talked to a PhD from my university/dept, & he is like me. He tells me his daily regimen can be described as "Multiplexing Like Mad", while I call myself a Multitasking Maniac. I guess we're overachievers, & quite disfunctional ]
I mean, how do you expect to get an UNDERSTANDING of the field @conference (or course), if you just go "half way". One of my HS teachers (PhD Columbia) told me at our 20th reunion:
"I thought my students only went half-way..they didn't go ALL THE WAY"
She had HIGH expectations for her students. All my teachers were like this, someone said of a teacher (PhD Vanderbilt) "XXX had extremely high standards". Another teacher was described as a "maniac"..he was part of the New Math program @UIUC. Yeah, my HS was part of the 2 pronged development program of the New Math (the other effort was at Stanford University). My HS "produced" 3 Nobel Laureates in its History, so there was a high-pressure environment to excel.
I'm 48, & I just realized I live in a "bubble universe"..a crazy world where I go ALL OUT or else.
"Go Hard..or GO HOME!" [ Depth ]
"If you're gonna go, GO BIG" [ Breadth ]
All my teachers ended up dis-illusioned. I ended up the same way. I look down upon the world as "half-assed", I literally can't function in world of "get along types" & "Good Enough is the Enemy of Excellence".
Many of my classmates (PhD Stanford, Princeton, etc) & myself never even bothered to pursue Academic careers. It's a severely flawed system (some of the postings reflect that, the bad teaching profs & all)
"The difference between a tenured Professor & a Terrorist, is that you can negotiate with a Terrorist"
-- told to me by an ex-professor (Dept Head, XXX Engineering, Univ of Michigan), an inside joke
This post is now flowing into another topic: "Academia is a Scam". Believe me, anyone who's been through it KNOWS. Can "Book Knowledge" (good grades, attendance, etc) be a measure of how a student performs in the "Real World", i.e. "Real World Knowledge"? There a
Totally by accident, I attended a major Physics conference (in preparation for the CERN LHC/Large Hadron Collider coming online next year, very exciting!) & did some tests with New Mediums : video-podcast, Sony PSP, LiveWebCast over a mobile-blog. This was done with the approval of the Program Chair, who's a young UC Irvine physics professor who understands the value of Technology.
Through a major Physics blog, a USC physics prof (string theorist) mentioned the SUSY '06 conference (4th International Conference on Supersymmetry and the Unification of Fundamental Interactions). I contacted the Program Chair, & he invited me down to do some "New Medium" tests:
http://www.jumplive.com/susy06/index.html
[ incidentally, that USC prof had a meeting last year with other profs to discuss the new "blogging technologies". There is the USC Annenberg Center, which addresses technology & communication. So, USC is "with it" ]
I recorded lectures, plenary-sessions on HD (high definition) video & other video devices (digital cameras w/video capability). I put them up on a video-blog (& its corresponding video-podcast over iTunes Music Store, just do a search on "SUSY")
http://susy06.blogspot.com/
Some of these videos are really LONG, like 240mb. I also delivered them over a Sony PSP (another big-market portable video-player, 12 million out there). Some of the videos were delivered on site, within 15 minutes of taping..near-live as iTunes video-clips. There are some QTVR panoramas of some conference events. There was a LIVE delivery of pics/videos at a Textamerica.com mobile-blog:
http://susy06.textamerica.com/
[ there are some video interviews, & some hi-res pics of talk presenters ]
There were 2 Nobel Laureates in attendance (Burton Richter/Stanford & F. Wilczek/MIT), & many big names from the world of theoretical/experimental particle-physics. Some of them were on that NOVA episode on String Theory (Brian Greene/Columbia host). Being an Elec Eng PhD, it was exciting to experience a technical conference in another field. I was given recognition at the conference, & links from their website here
[ I am currently looking for a business-entity to take my "Proof of Concept", & deliver this to next year's SUSY '07 Conference in Karlsruhe/Germany. And, to ALL technical engineering/science conferences. Please contact me ]
The purpose was like that of my target Market ("Offroad Racing", see http://www.jumplive.com/
"A better informed Public is more likely to appreciate/understand, & therefore publicly fund Science"
Physics (& Science in general), like Offroad Racing, suffers from an image problem. It's a niche-market, & the general public just isn't aware of their "activity/events". As the result, they both suffer from Funding issues (in racing, it's known as "Sponsorship"). Offroad Racing has been termed "Our Little Wonder in the Desert". Similary, Science could be termed "Our Little Wonder in a World of Idiots". You may recall the SSC (Superconducting Super Collider) that was cancelled in the 80's, which was a major blow to US program in particle-physics. There was NOT a public outcry, like you see now of the HST (Hubble Space Telescope) being de-commissioned. If the Public really understood/appreciated particle-physics, perhaps the SSC could have been resurrected. Science really is getting the "shaft" in USA, & I think the Slashdot crowd is concerned about this.
I realized halfway thru my project, that these lectures over video-iPod could have value as a Research Tool. The conference attendees could re-view the lectures, especially the Plenary sessions. I even talked to a Harva
In short, "Interactivity". My Dad was a university-professor, who led an Exchange Program between a major university (UIUC, 1st ranked ahead of MIT in terms of federally funded research) & Moscow Academy of Sciences. He & his Russian counterpart both agreed, there was a lack of communication/interaction among students & researchers.
The technology is producing New Mediums. One must be careful, that they take away the *interaction* part of learning. You could have a situation like a University of Phoenix, a totally isolated learning experience: in front of a computer or iPod.
There is a metaphor to Biology:
"I'm amazed at the INTERCONNECTEDNESS of Nature"
-- David Suzuki, "Carl Sagan of Biology"
He's referring how ecosystems function because of interaction. Bees pollinate flowers, etc. Students need to stimulate each other, & even teachers. R. Feynman (famous Caltech physicist) once said "I would never take a faculty position without Teaching. If I'm out of ideas, my students will give me some".
Caltech had an undergrad physics course entitled Physics X, taught by the famous Nobel physicist Richard Feynman.
It was a totally INTERACTIVE format, where the undergrads would ask RPF physics question. He would solve it, so the students could see how he approached the solution. "Learning from Example". It totally reversed the Teacher -> Student communication path. Relevant RPF anecdote: "I would never take an Academic position without teaching. If I'm running out of ideas, the students in the courses I teach give me Ideas". Interesting. Is it Teacher -> Student or Student -> Teacher? It's both.
There was a similar anecdote in the movie "The Red Violin", is the Teacher teaching the Student or vice-versa (or both). The quote went like "sometimes the Teacher learns from the Student".
"People don't buy Good Products, they buy GOOD MARKETING" -- business saying
"Simplicity is the Ultimate Sophistication"
-- Leonardo da Vinci
[ seen on a bulletin-board outside the Calech CS dept ]
"People don't but Good Products, they buy GOOD MARKETING" -- anonymous business saying Substance ("Functionality") VS Appearance ("oh, it's cool").
2nd try for the URL for the stock VWs: http://www.dezertrangers.com/iB_html/uploads/post- 1-87711-class11s.jpg
Does anyone know how exactly they scored the Grand Challenge? I was watching the leaderboard the whole day as I was coding, and one of the CMU vehicles was the first to finish as far as I can recall...furthermore, the spread BETWEEN the top three vehicles (CMU, Stanford, CMU) seemed to vary from time to time. I have my doubts as to the validity of the data since there were also a couple glitches during the race where all of a sudden a bunch of vehicles' mileage and stuff were kicked back by a good amount. -------------- I also monitored the GPS based map-tracker the entire Race. Stanley was on H1landers bumper on the upper-portion of the course (west of the 15 fwy). On the bottom part of the course (before Beer Bottle Pass), Stanley made the pass. I uploaded a few screen shots: http://darpagc.textamerica.com/ Stanley was the 1st physical finisher. I was involved with robotics/vision research as a grad student & I am also involved with OffRoad Racing (see http://www.jumplive.com./ I can say this years route seemed to be way easier..mostly just dirt roads. No whoop sections. Last year, it was in the Barstow area, where it can be pretty rough (all the top OffRoad Racing teams test there). Here's a sample of some REAL OffRoad Racing (there was "pausing" for the DARPA GC '05, if a 2nd vehicle got on the bumper of the 1st vehicle): http://web.archive.org/web/20000925132425/www.seel eyracing.com/barstow/end/vgeorgel4fps3.mov
It was taken from the area known as "Mile of Danger". Could the 'bots read a "fork" in the desert?
Someone (who was part of a team for awhile) claims the DARPA GC was a sham.
https://dtsn.darpa.mil/grandc/forum/topic.asp?topi c_id=1657&forum_id=30&Topic_Title=What+a+scam%2C+r ace+wa+sno+challenge+at+all!&forum_title=Grand+Cha llenge+Event&M=False&S=
It wasn't a race, more like a rally.
I did a LiveWebCast of the SCORE Primm 300 offroad race a month ago:
http://primm300.textamerica.com/
These vehicles took an a far rougher/tougher course, even the stock VW Baja Bugs:
http://www.dezertrangers.com/iB_html/uploads/post- 1-87711-class11s.jpg
I bet one of these bugs coulda placed high (or even won) the DARPA GC. You can see this thread for more pics of the Primm 300:
http://www.dezertrangers.com/cgi-bin/ib/ikonboard. cgi?s=e3be4804ea8ddd2f033271bbc686d107;act=ST;f=1; t=27465;st=0
You can see some silty areas. Stanley woulda had a problem, the CMU Hummers probably not.
I remember seeing how MS Research Labs was lean&mean, when it started up. (professors from Academia were ditching their jobs & working at MS because it was such a superior environment over Academic bureacracy). Funny thing, now MS Research Labs has themselves become a HUGE bureacracy, with a ton of depts. Now, Google is to MS..like MS Reserach Labs was to Academia. MS has become Big&Bloated, just like their MS Word. Take a hint from the spinoff from HP, called "Agilent Technologies".