Jon - please do not restrict your domain in this battle. Although you are first and foremost representing the "geeks" of slashdot, you should make this a UNIVERSAL argument for *everyone* that can be victimized by such an organization. Not only would it make you sound less selfish, but it is more wholesome, gives you more heart, and reminds everyone that there are more than one type of people being affected, and definitely more than one type of person in this world!
There are several kinds of people out there that need more help, I think many geeks are the least affected by this, personally. So don't restrict yourself or it'll be as if you're breathing through a straw.
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Cisco? nahhh... they're at the top for a reason, and it isn't due to unfair business, unlike a true evil monopoly. There is competition with Cisco in almost all products, it's just that Cisco rules. The only people that really want Cisco to go down are its competitors, becuase Cisco is REALLY good at what it does. Argue all day, but Cisco has earned their top, and the prices are not out of control.
Yippee, yet another article that says "cool... umm yeah! We'll just have to see what happens, the rules are changin.." blah blah blah! No different from anything else, just explaining the situation, tying in a few bad analogies, and throwing an advertisement on the bottom.
I sometimes question the quality of online journalism... seems that some of them like nandotimes could be dime-a-dozen.
ooh you're an AbiWord developer! I like AbiSuite a lot, but I'd love a new version, its been almost 2 months! I see you have a lot of things brewing in the news lately, make me a new release:P
There are two ways to look at this: Something will happen from this, or something won't (duh)..
Now what i think is that either life will go on as usual, MS will pay a fine, and people will continue to buy and support their software; or this will begin a ball rolling downhill of lawsuits and dissent, both internal and sales-related. I personally HOPE for the latter idea, but in all reality, I personally don't think anything is going to really happen.
A bit offtopic, but similar... does anyone know whats up with BRE? I used to love that game, but then I became a weiner and ran out of steam for it. I want it back!
Hmm... as i read that, I kinda see what you're saying, but I had an argument with myself. Although doing that would seem like kiddie-shit, it could be a good way to get a point across to them that their proprietary crap will get them into trouble. On the other hand, if you're a good coder, it'd be more useful to go and do something GOOD with your skills, like take a look at xchat or BitchX or fix my c++ compiling:)
I thought that the problem wasn't about the software, but it was about the network "problems".. I love GAIM! www.marko.net/gaim/ GAIM has some new versions lately, Mark has picked it up and is updating many things, its becoming impressive. Proprietary IRC clients, OTOH.... that's another story.
Actually, I think that idea of long distance with ads was really kicked around. i think it's a GREAT idea - if people are willing to listen to ads to get free long distance, all the power too everyone! I personally woulnd't do it (i'd rather do some online long distance), but if you don't like the advertising at all, then don't go there. Don't do the long distance, don't use talk city, etc... no one is putting a gun to your back.
yes, but i think that you're missing the point in that they're closing people out. This is not to the best advantage of a company. I don't go where I'm unwanted (except slashdot! haha)..
Furthermore, if everyone is using the same 2 or 3 closed-source clients, what if there is a security bug found in one of them? EVERYONE is vulnerable. Competition is good, proprietary is bad. Talkcity will see.
it makes me laugh when companies shoot themselves in the foot like this. not only is it about supporting all of the operating systems, but I think that you lose a lot of "flavors" of people when you do this as well, and when some leave, it could carry an even greater migration along with it. Not a wise idea to shut anyone out, unless you want to be a loser.
What are you talking about? That's no joke, it really works. have you TRIED it? I finally found the address to that asian chow and nudey spa i've been lookin for down in the peninsula of giancola.
Slashdot Mirror
OOPS! Me so sorry!
Mike Roberto (roberto@soul.apk.net) - AOL IM: MicroBerto
There are several kinds of people out there that need more help, I think many geeks are the least affected by this, personally. So don't restrict yourself or it'll be as if you're breathing through a straw.
Mike Roberto (roberto@soul.apk.net) - AOL IM: MicroBerto
NO - he wants to develop this in linux. From what I know, there's no MS studio program in linux.
Mike Roberto (roberto@soul.apk.net) - AOL IM: MicroBerto
no no no... bust a nut in ignorance's ass! without knowledge, information gets lonely
Mike Roberto (roberto@soul.apk.net) - AOL IM: MicroBerto
thought i'd start troll day early...
Mike Roberto (roberto@soul.apk.net) - AOL IM: MicroBerto
Cisco? nahhh... they're at the top for a reason, and it isn't due to unfair business, unlike a true evil monopoly. There is competition with Cisco in almost all products, it's just that Cisco rules. The only people that really want Cisco to go down are its competitors, becuase Cisco is REALLY good at what it does. Argue all day, but Cisco has earned their top, and the prices are not out of control.
Mike Roberto (roberto@soul.apk.net) - AOL IM: MicroBerto
D'OH!
Mike Roberto (roberto@soul.apk.net) - AOL IM: MicroBerto
and then finding the money....
MicroBerto hears three glaring letters off in the distance...
AMD
Mike Roberto (roberto@soul.apk.net) - AOL IM: MicroBerto
I sometimes question the quality of online journalism... seems that some of them like nandotimes could be dime-a-dozen.
Mike Roberto (roberto@soul.apk.net) - AOL IM: MicroBerto
ooh you're an AbiWord developer! I like AbiSuite a lot, but I'd love a new version, its been almost 2 months! I see you have a lot of things brewing in the news lately, make me a new release :P
Mike Roberto (roberto@soul.apk.net) - AOL IM: MicroBerto
thanks for that informative response
Mike Roberto (roberto@soul.apk.net) - AOL IM: MicroBerto
Now what i think is that either life will go on as usual, MS will pay a fine, and people will continue to buy and support their software; or this will begin a ball rolling downhill of lawsuits and dissent, both internal and sales-related. I personally HOPE for the latter idea, but in all reality, I personally don't think anything is going to really happen.
Mike Roberto (roberto@soul.apk.net) - AOL IM: MicroBerto
yes!
Mike Roberto (roberto@soul.apk.net) - AOL IM: MicroBerto
Besides, its more fun to rock the boat anyway!
Mike Roberto (roberto@soul.apk.net) - AOL IM: MicroBerto
A bit offtopic, but similar... does anyone know whats up with BRE? I used to love that game, but then I became a weiner and ran out of steam for it. I want it back!
Mike Roberto (roberto@soul.apk.net) - AOL IM: MicroBerto
Hmm... as i read that, I kinda see what you're saying, but I had an argument with myself. Although doing that would seem like kiddie-shit, it could be a good way to get a point across to them that their proprietary crap will get them into trouble. On the other hand, if you're a good coder, it'd be more useful to go and do something GOOD with your skills, like take a look at xchat or BitchX or fix my c++ compiling :)
Mike Roberto (roberto@soul.apk.net) - AOL IM: MicroBerto
I thought that the problem wasn't about the software, but it was about the network "problems".. I love GAIM! www.marko.net/gaim/
GAIM has some new versions lately, Mark has picked it up and is updating many things, its becoming impressive. Proprietary IRC clients, OTOH.... that's another story.
Mike Roberto (roberto@soul.apk.net) - AOL IM: MicroBerto
Actually, I think that idea of long distance with ads was really kicked around. i think it's a GREAT idea - if people are willing to listen to ads to get free long distance, all the power too everyone! I personally woulnd't do it (i'd rather do some online long distance), but if you don't like the advertising at all, then don't go there. Don't do the long distance, don't use talk city, etc... no one is putting a gun to your back.
Mike Roberto (roberto@soul.apk.net) - AOL IM: MicroBerto
Furthermore, if everyone is using the same 2 or 3 closed-source clients, what if there is a security bug found in one of them? EVERYONE is vulnerable. Competition is good, proprietary is bad. Talkcity will see.
Mike Roberto (roberto@soul.apk.net) - AOL IM: MicroBerto
it makes me laugh when companies shoot themselves in the foot like this. not only is it about supporting all of the operating systems, but I think that you lose a lot of "flavors" of people when you do this as well, and when some leave, it could carry an even greater migration along with it. Not a wise idea to shut anyone out, unless you want to be a loser.
Mike Roberto (roberto@soul.apk.net) - AOL IM: MicroBerto
I don't know what its like to be dumped, and i mean that in a bad sense :)
Mike Roberto (roberto@soul.apk.net) - AOL IM: MicroBerto
wrong.
Mike Roberto (roberto@soul.apk.net) - AOL IM: MicroBerto
what's wrong is that Poag is a troll and doesn't deserve our sympathy.
Mike Roberto (roberto@soul.apk.net) - AOL IM: MicroBerto
he's not moronic. he's right.
Mike Roberto (roberto@soul.apk.net) - AOL IM: MicroBerto
What are you talking about? That's no joke, it really works. have you TRIED it? I finally found the address to that asian chow and nudey spa i've been lookin for down in the peninsula of giancola.
Mike Roberto (roberto@soul.apk.net) - AOL IM: MicroBerto