That was when magazines were cool, you could learn Pascal, BASIC, and Assembly in one magazine because they had tons of listings. Hell, I remember using several articles to wire wrap my own S100 serial card.
Personally, I'm from Vermont, I believe that if someone wants to own a gun then they should be able to as long as they are properly trained and of course mentally fit. That means that they don't shoot to kill just because someone broke into their house and is stealing grandmas jewelry. Vermont has very low gun violence and very liberal laws when it comes to gun control. Just about every house has a least one rifle but they understand that the actions have consequences and that shooting anyone is a big deal. The worse they are on someone committing a crime the worse situation they could potentially be in if they were mistaken for someone else. It's the whole do to others as you would have done to you thing.
I support execution as a form of state imposed punishment. I support the right to defend others and self, all the way to killing.
There are those, who, on the karmic wheel, need to be prevented from harming others and thereby harming themselves and committing violence to their soul. The faster they are sent back to the beginning of the line, to be reincarnated to be given the chance to improve their standing in the Universe, all the better.
That said, an Identity Thief takes a lot more from a person than personal property. It is almost akin to rape, but without the physical aspect. It has life long repercussion to the victim and their families. (If the banking and credit system would recognize this and assist victims to minimize this, the crime would be less of a problem.) I agree, identity thieves are some of the worst scum, they are usually involved in other crimes that may have even deeper problems for society. So, if a victim does what is their right and locates and holds for apprehension, and the thief does, what is not their right and assaults or commits violence to their victim, I believe the victim is justified in sending the thief back to the beginning of the karmic line, and that the justice system should exonerate the victim.
The world was more polite when justice was swift and sure, when citizens were armed, and when touchy feely political correctness and "offenders rights" did not exist. (I'm all for rights of the Accused, but once someone has been convicted, or caught red handed and doubt is removed, justice should be carried, without prejudice. Paris Hilton would do 90 days in general population in my system.)
yes i am. i'm limiting your freedom to screw over everyone else. if you want to do that, go get microsoft or bsd stuff because i don't want to do business with you.
How, as a user, can I do that?
How, if as a developer, I answer the needs of a user base that wants a particular closed solution, or MS based product, am I wrong? They have a choice, they ask for it, are they wrong to want and get it? If I create a distro that meets someone's free choices aren't you limiting me providing it to them, and them for wanting it?
Aren't you just the cutest little troll! Bringing Bush and the Middle East in to your snide swipe on Free Software. How adorable. Bet'cha really hoping for a big hairball of furious threads, aren't you? Ahh yes. The optimism of youth and carefree summer days.
Wrong, Buckwheat, but nice try. I'm saying that what some, especially the GPLv3 crowd are doing is saying we have to accept their version of freedom. Like we are telling Iraq that they must accept our version of democracy. Or, the old Soviet Union telling their people they are free because the choice has already been made for them.
Free software is great, but to be truly free, the user should be able to do anything...ANYTHING they want with it.
The GPL, including version 3, is about being free to make choices for yourself, but not for other people.
But, if you, by implementing GPL3, remove my ability, as a user to implement or use a solution, aren't you making my choice for me and limiting my freedom?
It is this 'choice' we "Freedom of X" movements oppose. Don't try control us, we see and understand what is happening.
So, are you going on record as opposing my freedom to accept this so-called control? Do you really want to enforce your version of freedom on me? Isn't that what Bush is doing in the Middle East? We are forcing them to accept what we consider Freedom. It's for their own good that they not be able to choose their own path? What if we gave them true freedom of choice. Then, they would be free. Even if they choose a path that leads them back into dictatorship, they were free to make that choice.
Just want to be clear on what it is you are proposing.
So is the whole thing falling apart, or is Linus' valiant stand in opposition to GPLv3
You must oppose GPLv3 if you want true freedom. True freedom is allowing the developer or the user to develop, install, and use what they want on the OS. If you put in provisions that limit this, if I can't run a closed app on an open OS, then I don't have freedom.
Or, is the movement so afraid that thier position is so tenuous that they have to stifle that ability?
Linspire, Xandros? These distros are going to find themselves unable to distribute GPL3 licensed software under the terms of their deals with Microsoft. Who cares?
Message From the Future Using the Intangled Pair Interface
With InternetX deployed last August (2020), we can now surf the Internet Way Back Machine 4.0 by directly accessing web pages in the past. The only thing we have to over come is that we have to assign NATted TSC/IP addresses (also known as IPv32, 32 sets of 32bit strings) to address computers in the TSC (time space continuum). (Oh, I've already got my lawyers working in 2007 to cover patents on TSC/IP)
Your puny Internet2 was relegated to serve up Paris Hilton news and 24/7 coverage of the Anna Nicole Clones Show on the White Trash Network (formerly known as FoxNews).
According to a November 12, 2010 article in Rupert Murdoch's Wall Street Journal, this was exposed as an investment scam and the responsible parties have all been charged by the USDOJ Attorney General Sam Waterston.
Ah, so Fred Thompson is President. I'll place my bet right now with U-Bet.
it could be that you can't send messages back any earlier than the time the message was created, effectively only slowing time down so it take less time for the message to arrive. Less time could be no time at all so the message arrives when it's sent.
So, how do you weed through the noise? How do you know what pair to listen to when you don't even know a message has been sent?
Weaponize this sucker, grab an intangled pair in a critical system, like a reactor, twist the sucker until it does something bad. Boom, Three Mile Island goes into shut down because an Iranian...oh, wait.
Turn this into an industrial sabotage device, grab an intangled pair from a critical processor, twist the sucker, Intel turns out faulty math co-processors in the mid-90's...oh, wait.
If MS has such a crappy OS, and everyone, and I mean EVERYONE on Slashdot can see it? Why don't they come up with a viable, commercial solution to take down the giant? It can be done. You just have to come up with something the consumers, your target market, wants...WANTS to buy.
Instead of alienating them with geek-boy-speak and socio-economic masturbatory fantasies by RMS, P R O D U C E something the buying public will want to use, can use, out of the box, and that other software makers will support by providing other software titles that people will actually buy.
Now, some of you may not want to hear that, but its the only way to really put a dent in the MS market. Are you up for it, or are you going to sit back with your copies of an RMS jack-off rag, GNU/BOY, and fantasize of an encounter you're never really going to have?
If Chrysler decided to design a car that worked better with specific parts, who would complain. If MS designs their OS so their desktop search works better, great. If Google really wants to be a competitor let them spend all that evil filthy lucre they've amassed and build thier own stinking OS that they can lock MS out of.
Good Gods. Linus is warming. Quick, someone offset his carbon. Save the Linus. Why weren't we told this before? What is the Government going to do to stop this? What major economic activity do we need to sabotage to stop Linus from warming?
Modded as "troll"? I'm trying to decide if the GPL3 crowd, or the global warming crowd are the ones without the ability to laugh at themselves.
Either way, both groups a just a hair away from being certified insane, and all their toys, with edges and corners, taken away from them.
How dare you minimize the plight of a warming Linus by using the word "slight". You are trying to marginalize those of us who are truly concerned by this.
This could be offset however, by eliminating a source of greenhouse gas emissions. Suggestions include Steve Ballmer...
You do realize that the biggest Gas Bag involved in the argument is RMS himself. If you are going to stop the GPL Greenhouse Gas Effect, you do need to shut-down filthy (unwashed) old styled (rhetorically unchallenged/unfettered/uninhibitted) commie sources first.
Good Gods. Linus is warming. Quick, someone offset his carbon. Save the Linus. Why weren't we told this before? What is the Government going to do to stop this? What major economic activity do we need to sabotage to stop Linus from warming?
Remember the boom for computers? Gary Geek was the only guy in town that knew computers. In the 1980's, he set up a store, sold Geek Brand Computers that he built in the back. Wrote a small flat-file system to catalog the local radio stations music, and opened a BBS with 4, count them 4 modems.
By the mid-80's, he was taking mail order for the computers he advertised in Byte and Computer Shopper.
By the late 80's, he had closed his store front. Spun off his programming operations, and was building and shipping computers across the country. And his BBS operation was covering much of Southern California.
By the mid-90's, Gary Geek was a millionaire, his BBS had become an ISP that got gobbled up by the local telco for a huge amount of money. His mail-order PC business boomed and became a huge success with a web based "you build it" service.
By 2007, Gary Geek was getting ready to be launched into space and then return to his undersea habitat he's had built off the coast of Corpus Cristi. And has built the worlds first "Xena" museum in Seattle and charges $24 a pop for entrance. He also owns a basketball team, a football team, and a hockey team, all as tax shelters, cause lord knows that they aren't winning.
Oh, and the high school bully that gave him a hard time, is taking a his MCSE courses paid for by the State, cause he is an underemployed truck driver.
Home fuel-cell installations will be the next big thing for the small guy to make big. The power companies would be wise to start backing them now. Subsidize them, let them get a good base then buy them out.
Wow, and at HomeDepot, I can get a 7kW Generator with a 12 hour run-time @ half usage, for around $550. Sure, it produces carbons, but, I'm willing to bet that if the price of gasoline doubled, I still wouldn't be able to off-lay the cost of the fuel cell in this lifetime.
The trick to getting the American public to switch to greener alternative power systems is:
Make it cheaper than the current system
Demonstrate that it screws OPEC and Oil and Power Corporations
Make it tax exempt for the first 10 years (thus demonstrating you are screwing the Government, as well
Make it the next entreup...entr...next great business to break into. In otherwords, make it so Joe Bluecollar can install the powerplant into a home, turn it into a business of taking Bob Whitecollar off the grid, thus, allowing early to market Joe Bluecollars to become the next set of millionaires.
Oh, did I mention that it should demonstrate the ability to SCREW over OPEC, Government, and Corporations?
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That was when magazines were cool, you could learn Pascal, BASIC, and Assembly in one magazine because they had tons of listings. Hell, I remember using several articles to wire wrap my own S100 serial card.
Ah, the good ol' days. When hackers were hackers.
Thank you, you make my point.
I support execution as a form of state imposed punishment. I support the right to defend others and self, all the way to killing.
There are those, who, on the karmic wheel, need to be prevented from harming others and thereby harming themselves and committing violence to their soul. The faster they are sent back to the beginning of the line, to be reincarnated to be given the chance to improve their standing in the Universe, all the better.
That said, an Identity Thief takes a lot more from a person than personal property. It is almost akin to rape, but without the physical aspect. It has life long repercussion to the victim and their families. (If the banking and credit system would recognize this and assist victims to minimize this, the crime would be less of a problem.) I agree, identity thieves are some of the worst scum, they are usually involved in other crimes that may have even deeper problems for society. So, if a victim does what is their right and locates and holds for apprehension, and the thief does, what is not their right and assaults or commits violence to their victim, I believe the victim is justified in sending the thief back to the beginning of the karmic line, and that the justice system should exonerate the victim.
The world was more polite when justice was swift and sure, when citizens were armed, and when touchy feely political correctness and "offenders rights" did not exist. (I'm all for rights of the Accused, but once someone has been convicted, or caught red handed and doubt is removed, justice should be carried, without prejudice. Paris Hilton would do 90 days in general population in my system.)
How, as a user, can I do that?
How, if as a developer, I answer the needs of a user base that wants a particular closed solution, or MS based product, am I wrong? They have a choice, they ask for it, are they wrong to want and get it? If I create a distro that meets someone's free choices aren't you limiting me providing it to them, and them for wanting it?
Wrong, Buckwheat, but nice try. I'm saying that what some, especially the GPLv3 crowd are doing is saying we have to accept their version of freedom. Like we are telling Iraq that they must accept our version of democracy. Or, the old Soviet Union telling their people they are free because the choice has already been made for them.
Free software is great, but to be truly free, the user should be able to do anything... ANYTHING they want with it.
But, if you, by implementing GPL3, remove my ability, as a user to implement or use a solution, aren't you making my choice for me and limiting my freedom?
Exactly my point. Thank you.
So, are you going on record as opposing my freedom to accept this so-called control? Do you really want to enforce your version of freedom on me? Isn't that what Bush is doing in the Middle East? We are forcing them to accept what we consider Freedom. It's for their own good that they not be able to choose their own path? What if we gave them true freedom of choice. Then, they would be free. Even if they choose a path that leads them back into dictatorship, they were free to make that choice.
Just want to be clear on what it is you are proposing.
You must oppose GPLv3 if you want true freedom. True freedom is allowing the developer or the user to develop, install, and use what they want on the OS. If you put in provisions that limit this, if I can't run a closed app on an open OS, then I don't have freedom.
Or, is the movement so afraid that thier position is so tenuous that they have to stifle that ability?
So GPL3 is about not being free to make a choice?
Message From the Future Using the Intangled Pair Interface
With InternetX deployed last August (2020), we can now surf the Internet Way Back Machine 4.0 by directly accessing web pages in the past. The only thing we have to over come is that we have to assign NATted TSC/IP addresses (also known as IPv32, 32 sets of 32bit strings) to address computers in the TSC (time space continuum). (Oh, I've already got my lawyers working in 2007 to cover patents on TSC/IP)
Your puny Internet2 was relegated to serve up Paris Hilton news and 24/7 coverage of the Anna Nicole Clones Show on the White Trash Network (formerly known as FoxNews).
Isn't it about choice? You can choose Linspire if you want to have those features in place. Or, you can choose another distro.
Or, are we going to say, "You are free to choose, as long as you don't make these choices?"
Most "Freedom of X" movements turn into extreme hypocrits at the point where someone decides to be exercise free choice in an opposing direction.
Ah, so Fred Thompson is President. I'll place my bet right now with U-Bet.
So, how do you weed through the noise? How do you know what pair to listen to when you don't even know a message has been sent?
Weaponize this sucker, grab an intangled pair in a critical system, like a reactor, twist the sucker until it does something bad. Boom, Three Mile Island goes into shut down because an Iranian...oh, wait.
Turn this into an industrial sabotage device, grab an intangled pair from a critical processor, twist the sucker, Intel turns out faulty math co-processors in the mid-90's...oh, wait.
Blimps...New Jersey...oh, wait.
If MS has such a crappy OS, and everyone, and I mean EVERYONE on Slashdot can see it? Why don't they come up with a viable, commercial solution to take down the giant? It can be done. You just have to come up with something the consumers, your target market, wants... WANTS to buy.
Instead of alienating them with geek-boy-speak and socio-economic masturbatory fantasies by RMS, P R O D U C E something the buying public will want to use, can use, out of the box, and that other software makers will support by providing other software titles that people will actually buy.
Now, some of you may not want to hear that, but its the only way to really put a dent in the MS market. Are you up for it, or are you going to sit back with your copies of an RMS jack-off rag, GNU/BOY, and fantasize of an encounter you're never really going to have?
If Chrysler decided to design a car that worked better with specific parts, who would complain. If MS designs their OS so their desktop search works better, great. If Google really wants to be a competitor let them spend all that evil filthy lucre they've amassed and build thier own stinking OS that they can lock MS out of.
Modded as "troll"? I'm trying to decide if the GPL3 crowd, or the global warming crowd are the ones without the ability to laugh at themselves.
Either way, both groups a just a hair away from being certified insane, and all their toys, with edges and corners, taken away from them.
How dare you minimize the plight of a warming Linus by using the word "slight". You are trying to marginalize those of us who are truly concerned by this.
You do realize that the biggest Gas Bag involved in the argument is RMS himself. If you are going to stop the GPL Greenhouse Gas Effect, you do need to shut-down filthy (unwashed) old styled (rhetorically unchallenged/unfettered/uninhibitted) commie sources first.
Save the planet, shut down RMS.
Good Gods. Linus is warming. Quick, someone offset his carbon. Save the Linus. Why weren't we told this before? What is the Government going to do to stop this? What major economic activity do we need to sabotage to stop Linus from warming?
Remember the boom for computers? Gary Geek was the only guy in town that knew computers. In the 1980's, he set up a store, sold Geek Brand Computers that he built in the back. Wrote a small flat-file system to catalog the local radio stations music, and opened a BBS with 4, count them 4 modems.
By the mid-80's, he was taking mail order for the computers he advertised in Byte and Computer Shopper.
By the late 80's, he had closed his store front. Spun off his programming operations, and was building and shipping computers across the country. And his BBS operation was covering much of Southern California.
By the mid-90's, Gary Geek was a millionaire, his BBS had become an ISP that got gobbled up by the local telco for a huge amount of money. His mail-order PC business boomed and became a huge success with a web based "you build it" service.
By 2007, Gary Geek was getting ready to be launched into space and then return to his undersea habitat he's had built off the coast of Corpus Cristi. And has built the worlds first "Xena" museum in Seattle and charges $24 a pop for entrance. He also owns a basketball team, a football team, and a hockey team, all as tax shelters, cause lord knows that they aren't winning.
Oh, and the high school bully that gave him a hard time, is taking a his MCSE courses paid for by the State, cause he is an underemployed truck driver.
Home fuel-cell installations will be the next big thing for the small guy to make big. The power companies would be wise to start backing them now. Subsidize them, let them get a good base then buy them out.
Wow, and at HomeDepot, I can get a 7kW Generator with a 12 hour run-time @ half usage, for around $550. Sure, it produces carbons, but, I'm willing to bet that if the price of gasoline doubled, I still wouldn't be able to off-lay the cost of the fuel cell in this lifetime.
The trick to getting the American public to switch to greener alternative power systems is:
Oh, did I mention that it should demonstrate the ability to SCREW over OPEC, Government, and Corporations?
Do you people really want Government to have a hand in this?
You do realize that once they start "regulating" they start taking control?
Or, do you think Government should step in and make your decisions for you?
Where's Phantom these days?
How about wrestling?