Now we get to the crux of the matter - establishing norms of behavior. Sure we can establish any norm, but how are you going to enforce it and still allow anonymity/pseudonymity? Human nature won't allow you to have it both ways and to me anonymity/pseudonymity has much higher value than unsullied sensibilities of oversensitive people.
Fellow neolithic tribe member would just bash your head open in a fight over potential mate. We evolved quite a bit since then, so I will restrict myself to pointing out how out of touch your expectations of utopia and human enlightenment. I might call you a fool, but you are 100% safe from rock-bashing from my side.
Lets assume we could change human nature. Is there even a good reason to? Sure, civilized anonymous discussion on the internet would be nice to have, but what would be the actual costs of getting there? More docile, non-confrontational society would likely be also less able to maintain egalitarian society, allowing rare exploitators go much further in corrupting law and order. Such society would also likely be more prone to cults and religions, as questioning authority requires a great deal of confrontation. Such society would also be less innovative, as many breakthroughs are built on conflict.
So could you justify such cost just to get few impressionable people more comfortable on the internet? Perhaps it is more effective to change (or ignore) the few that believe there is a problem?
You are misguided in your expectations. Internet is humanity in its purest form and at no point in humanity's history have we been known to be sensitive, kind to others, and not aggressive toward the weak. You may not like this, but it got us this far.
That's nice, but is the effect as great as nutrition, both pre and post-natal?
Now that iodine and various vitamin deficiencies were largely resolved for everyone, yes. That is, nutrition impact on intelligence extends only insofar as meeting or not baseline needs.
PvtVoid, by and large, are terrible at making online comments due to tendency of making overly broad generalizations and grandstanding, and can't be prevented from posting and replaced by a weak AI soon enough. Unfortunately, I think it's pretty much a given that the Dunning Kruger effect is going to dominate here and the last people to keep posting will be the worst contributors.
This might go sideways in more ways than VirusTotal realize. For example, consumers might realize that all end-point AV products are highly ineffective and stop buying them.
Yes, but it puts failing to disable Win10 updates so it doesn't interrupt your stream into perspective when you compare it to crap we had to go through just to get the game to correctly load.
Processors today are orders of magnitude faster and more capable than just a few years ago. Remove the bloat and you remove the problem.
Not quite. Processors today are mostly more power efficient, performance gains that we are got used to during 80s and 90s largely stalled quite a few years back. For example, 6th generation I5 (Skylake, 2015) is only marginally (~20%) faster than 2nd generation I5 (Sandy Bridge, 2011). At the same time, historical bloat growth rate remained constant and overtook meager computational gains.
we might have utopia within our grasp, with some caveats:
These caveats just may end up getting filled with safe spaces, trigger warning, and other kinds of busybody nonsense. Wait, this doesn't look that utopic to me.
As manual farm labor was squeezed by gained efficiency of mechanized farming, the alternative employment at factories became the only alternative and resulted in a drastic loss of quality of life. These were the days of 12 hour work days, no work safety, and living in the slums and/or company towns. So the history is telling us that it won't going end well for current generation and will take many generations to find new equilibrium.
The mechanization of agriculture didn't result in 76% unemployment, it freed people to do other work.
You need to study history, because not only it did result in high unemployment for a generation or so, the transition itself was much more gradual. Other work might not arrive in time to save all the displaced workers from poverty.
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Now we get to the crux of the matter - establishing norms of behavior. Sure we can establish any norm, but how are you going to enforce it and still allow anonymity/pseudonymity? Human nature won't allow you to have it both ways and to me anonymity/pseudonymity has much higher value than unsullied sensibilities of oversensitive people.
If one were in a tribe in neolithic times
Fellow neolithic tribe member would just bash your head open in a fight over potential mate. We evolved quite a bit since then, so I will restrict myself to pointing out how out of touch your expectations of utopia and human enlightenment. I might call you a fool, but you are 100% safe from rock-bashing from my side.
I doubt he was actually contemplating suicide. This seems more on the level of emotional blackmail to me.
Welcome to victimhood culture.
Lets assume we could change human nature. Is there even a good reason to? Sure, civilized anonymous discussion on the internet would be nice to have, but what would be the actual costs of getting there? More docile, non-confrontational society would likely be also less able to maintain egalitarian society, allowing rare exploitators go much further in corrupting law and order. Such society would also likely be more prone to cults and religions, as questioning authority requires a great deal of confrontation. Such society would also be less innovative, as many breakthroughs are built on conflict.
So could you justify such cost just to get few impressionable people more comfortable on the internet? Perhaps it is more effective to change (or ignore) the few that believe there is a problem?
You are misguided in your expectations. Internet is humanity in its purest form and at no point in humanity's history have we been known to be sensitive, kind to others, and not aggressive toward the weak. You may not like this, but it got us this far.
That's nice, but is the effect as great as nutrition, both pre and post-natal?
Now that iodine and various vitamin deficiencies were largely resolved for everyone, yes. That is, nutrition impact on intelligence extends only insofar as meeting or not baseline needs.
Lets cut through all this BS and finally admit that intelligence is genetic and heritable.
PvtVoid, by and large, are terrible at making online comments due to tendency of making overly broad generalizations and grandstanding, and can't be prevented from posting and replaced by a weak AI soon enough. Unfortunately, I think it's pretty much a given that the Dunning Kruger effect is going to dominate here and the last people to keep posting will be the worst contributors.
This might go sideways in more ways than VirusTotal realize. For example, consumers might realize that all end-point AV products are highly ineffective and stop buying them.
Signature-based AV is already ineffective to the point of being useless. Trivial obfuscation techniques can and does fool every solution out there.
Please, everyone knows that the only tangible digital currency is dogecoin!
If the only way to get to +5 post was while driving, then yes /. would share some of the responsibility for your stupidity.
Yes, but it puts failing to disable Win10 updates so it doesn't interrupt your stream into perspective when you compare it to crap we had to go through just to get the game to correctly load.
There is no fading back to obscurity and re-anonymizing after making such extraordinary claims. You cannot unmake the claims.
Why would being a gamer mean that you would actually be any good at administering a computer?
Kids these days, real gamers used to know how to free 640K better than anyone else.
Sad. Once the internet was opened to the general public it began its rapid decline into heat death.
Netcraft has confirmed: The Internet is dying!
given how complex we are...
Complexity != Quality, or every bloatware and spaghetti coder out there would have created true AI by now.
How these gamers are not computer-literate enough to turn Win10 crapware off?
Processors today are orders of magnitude faster and more capable than just a few years ago. Remove the bloat and you remove the problem.
Not quite. Processors today are mostly more power efficient, performance gains that we are got used to during 80s and 90s largely stalled quite a few years back. For example, 6th generation I5 (Skylake, 2015) is only marginally (~20%) faster than 2nd generation I5 (Sandy Bridge, 2011). At the same time, historical bloat growth rate remained constant and overtook meager computational gains.
Granted ethical permission. From whom?
Groans, grunting, and uttering of 'Brains!' from the patient were interpreted as an informed consent for the procedure.
we might have utopia within our grasp, with some caveats:
These caveats just may end up getting filled with safe spaces, trigger warning, and other kinds of busybody nonsense. Wait, this doesn't look that utopic to me.
I'm just glad you're not bitter or anything.
AI would still be better than you at reading his emotional state.
As manual farm labor was squeezed by gained efficiency of mechanized farming, the alternative employment at factories became the only alternative and resulted in a drastic loss of quality of life. These were the days of 12 hour work days, no work safety, and living in the slums and/or company towns. So the history is telling us that it won't going end well for current generation and will take many generations to find new equilibrium.
The mechanization of agriculture didn't result in 76% unemployment, it freed people to do other work.
You need to study history, because not only it did result in high unemployment for a generation or so, the transition itself was much more gradual. Other work might not arrive in time to save all the displaced workers from poverty.
On the Internet, nobody knows you're a Satoshi Nakamoto.