And for some reason you're trying to extend the analogy far too far past what we were originally discussing. The point is that it does make a difference which country a site is hosted in. Yes, the site could be hosted in any country in the world, but that doesn't mean they are all the same from a legal standpoint. There is no way you are going to be able to enforce one set of ideals on everyone in the world. Maybe in the future, but I doubt even that. There are all sorts of pseudo-religious and other social factors that affect what people think is right, wrong, acceptable, ignorable, etc. So if you want to host something that may be questionable, you'd better do it in a country where it is legal.
I said if the border moves through it, not vice versa.
But doing it your way: move permafrost from Alaska to Texas and it will still be in the US, but it will melt because of the change in environment sure. Web servers have different environments too. Move a US website using PHP onto a US server that only has PERL and it will be useless.
I know what you're trying to get at - doing those things in PowerShell is possibly more convenient if it's been designed from the ground up for a networked environment - but you shouldn't make the mistake of assuming that you can't do something in Linux just because you yourself do not know how. That's rather hypocritical after what you just said about Slashdotters not knowing how to use Windows.
Yes, object passing can be useful in a homogenous environment like PowerShell, but Unix commands are designed around text processing rather than binary formats for a reason. Unix pipes can pass objects as binary files. PowerShell does benefit from being designed with hindsight of course, there are probably a few things that would be done different in terms of Unix tools if a complete redesign were being done of the shell environment - for example two way pipes for Inter Process Communication would probably be one of them, and I think PowerShell has that.
You are making a very broad assumption saying that Slashdotters don't know how to use Windows. Maybe not Windows Server of course. I have a decade of experience with Windows Server for a small/medium business myself, with several remote offices. Many Slashdotters have even deeper experience there. Many don't, but they sure as hell will have had some experience with Windows on the desktop at some point. I doubt any negative sentiment toward MS is through lack of proficiency.
Yes Windows and Linux both have strengths and weaknesses, and it's good to play devils advocate when people aren't thinking clearly or sensibly. But MS have shown repeatedly that they are one of the scummiest companies on the planet, with poor technical credentials. Honestly, have a look at the history of computing throughout the 1900s. It's amazing. But MS managed to make people think that for example computers crashing every day was acceptable. It's taken them 15-20 years to build a remotely stable OS despite having more resources than god. They repeatedly try to sabotage competing products by abusing their position in the desktop segment and doing backhand deals. Maybe you respect and admire that. I don't, and neither do 95% of Slashdot. Why should they? Very cool things are happening now that MS are losing their grip on computing.
If it has no connection with you, why are you a self confessed marketing drone who can't stop creaming his pants over Microsoft? Why do you make retarded claims like you can't connect into other servers from bash and PowerShell is the best thing since sliced bread? If those really are your personal opinions, you're a gullible and/or ignorant fool who needs to do more research into products rather than believing bullshit sales brochures and equally ignorant sales reps. Not even for our sake, but your own if you want to make the most of your computers. Whether you are a shill or an idiot, I hope you're at least learning something from your time here.
Technically I'm sure you could if you had enough money and time;) People sometimes take houses apart brick by brick, then rebuild them in other places. Houses and mountains don't change properties just because a border has moved past/through them (unless that border is a river..).
It's not exactly messing with our minds, it's just making us wonder what kind of creep enjoys lying for a living. And even worse, do you really think any technically literate person believes the stuf you say? If they actually reviewed your work based on results, you'd get a piss poor performance review.
Yep I'm pretty sure it would be easy to meet and "bed" plenty of women if I did the socialising thing, but I'm getting way too selective. Every time I've ended a relationship I added another thing to the list of things I did or didn't want in a girlfriend, and it's really hard to find someone that fits those criteria. I'm past dating for the sake of dating, I am happy to be single now, and if I happen to meet someone great, that's good. If not, I'm not that fussed. I used to feel really bad for my one single aunt, but now I'm wondering if she has the right idea.
I don't think we dislike things directly because they're popular and we want to be hipsters. IMO it's probably more to do with our experience with Microsoft and Intel over the last couple of decades. We often will root for the underdog even when there isn't much of a difference to the end user simply because we don't want any one company getting too far ahead of the rest and crushing innovation.
Then you also have to consider that we simply are more aware of the alternatives in many situations and will choose the option that is best for us, which won't very often be the most popular choice. It's when geeks start acting like what's best for them is best for everyone when the problems start. Usually it takes the world a few years to be ready for what we are happy to use straight from the bleeding edge. Having said that, I think Android is a decent balance of customisability vs usability. You could probably say the same for the iPhone - as long as you jailbreak it first..
Well, to read most books you only really technically need to be able to make out two shades, so that's not a big problem as long as the lighting conditions are relatively uniform. Kindles also only have 16 shades of grey and they look pretty damn good.
That's kind of what I said. I find the idea of it kind of attractive because often the geeky girls I'm attracted to are so quiet and reserved and scared to do anything fun. But in reality a lot of the girls out clubbing I just wouldn't find interesting to hold a conversation with. It's difficult to find someone in between. Possibly because I don't play MMOs.
Nope, it's not obvious. I always thought of your name as a geeky Evangelion reference for some reason.
Well, in a club you're not going to be able to have much of a conversation, which is why I don't think it compares much to meeting someone in a place that you can actually hear each other without shouting. Physical attraction and "chemistry" is important, but after the last several girls I've met who at first seemed interesting and attractive but turned out to be quite shallow and brainless under the surface, I'm really wary of letting myself be anything more than just friends with people I've only just met. I think that had the side effect of a couple of girls I could have dated assumed I wasn't interested, but I'm happier with that right now than having another relationship that I'll regret getting into.
Here's an experiment for you: go to a club some time and only give a meek, timid "hey" to whoever you want to pick up, only respond with short, meek statements to what they say, avoiding direct eye contact, etc, and compare your results to going there and being assertive, self confident, and persistent. "Bad Boys" win because bad boys tend to exude behavioral traits that many if not most women are attracted to.
Of course the macho act is going to go down better in a club, but that's because the type of person that would be a match for a quieter guy like me and probably a lot of other Slashdotters just isn't that into clubbing. I don't mind clubbing if I'm drunk, but in general I'm just not interested in clubbing or even being drunk.
That only works for linear games though. A lot of games these days have large open worlds. I'm happy just waiting for a whole game to download myself. I also get that some people are still stuck with dial-up though, so we're not going to see physical media going away. It would be kind of nice if they switched to SD cards or something though, that would make things faster, albeit probably more expensive. The best option would be letting the user choose, then those that want can just use the download. I vastly prefer downloads for convenience just because you don't have to insert the disc to play..
This from the guy advocating picking up women in clubs? You don't go to a club looking for a long term commitment. I'm not saying it can't happen, but most of the people in there are hoping for some fingering.
Yeah, I really should keep a list of the posts that make it obvious. I've just had a look over this guy's posting history, and he is clearly the same guy who owns the "North Korea" and "CmdrPony" accounts that do similar shilling. He's always pro Facebook and MS, and anti-Google. He likes to say "frankly" and "you can't deny" a lot.
Here he says that he works in advertising and talks about the worth of Twitter followers. (InsightIn140Bytes to me sounds like a reference to Twitter's 140 character limit, wouldn't you think?). I should really save a link to this comment for future use.
The highlight for me was from his North Korea account on Sept 14th though:
What Microsoft does get is what actual, real world businesses need. They also get what real world programmers need, and they get what enterprise servers need. Linux is great, but it misses many of those features - for example, how do you connect to a remote PC with bash and run your commands there? Oh, you can't. With PowerShell you can easily do that.
It just shows that the guy has no fucking clue. He tries to sound like he knows what he's talking about, saying he runs Linux servers but MS servers are still good for some things - which is true of course, they are better suited for some things - but he doesn't even know about ssh, so how can he really feel he's qualified to compare the two properly? When he says that kind of stuff it sounds like half truths or all out lies. He's either an idiot or insane because he's so pro MS without knowing his facts, or he's getting paid for it.
I like playing devil's advocate when I think people are just going along with groupthink btw, but what this guy does is far beyond devil's advocate..
Oh, yeah. I guess I should have just gone to bed instead of checking Slashdot at 12:30AM! From that point of view though, you could also have a microphone feeding real world sound into your headphones if you wanted to hear everything around you, or have hearing enhanced in some other way - perhaps selectively filtering out voices or traffic noise or that kind of thing.
Actually there aren't any magical markers showing you when you're moving from one country to another (sometimes there will be walls and fences of course, but that's not the point). You can take the time to find out where you are if you are placed in a random location, but likewise you can do a country lookup on the IP of any website you're on. If that site pulls in content remotely then you won't be able to know the source of all of it, but neither do you necessarily know where all the component parts for your computer or clothing have come from originally.
Anyway, my point was that countries exist, and the location of your server is important legally whether you like it or not.
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And for some reason you're trying to extend the analogy far too far past what we were originally discussing. The point is that it does make a difference which country a site is hosted in. Yes, the site could be hosted in any country in the world, but that doesn't mean they are all the same from a legal standpoint. There is no way you are going to be able to enforce one set of ideals on everyone in the world. Maybe in the future, but I doubt even that. There are all sorts of pseudo-religious and other social factors that affect what people think is right, wrong, acceptable, ignorable, etc. So if you want to host something that may be questionable, you'd better do it in a country where it is legal.
I said if the border moves through it, not vice versa.
But doing it your way: move permafrost from Alaska to Texas and it will still be in the US, but it will melt because of the change in environment sure. Web servers have different environments too. Move a US website using PHP onto a US server that only has PERL and it will be useless.
You ean you can't do this, or this? Interesting.
I know what you're trying to get at - doing those things in PowerShell is possibly more convenient if it's been designed from the ground up for a networked environment - but you shouldn't make the mistake of assuming that you can't do something in Linux just because you yourself do not know how. That's rather hypocritical after what you just said about Slashdotters not knowing how to use Windows.
Auto-type on touch screen messed up that link: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2428030&cid=37401518
You said that stuff http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2428030&cid=37401518>here.
Yes, object passing can be useful in a homogenous environment like PowerShell, but Unix commands are designed around text processing rather than binary formats for a reason. Unix pipes can pass objects as binary files. PowerShell does benefit from being designed with hindsight of course, there are probably a few things that would be done different in terms of Unix tools if a complete redesign were being done of the shell environment - for example two way pipes for Inter Process Communication would probably be one of them, and I think PowerShell has that.
You are making a very broad assumption saying that Slashdotters don't know how to use Windows. Maybe not Windows Server of course. I have a decade of experience with Windows Server for a small/medium business myself, with several remote offices. Many Slashdotters have even deeper experience there. Many don't, but they sure as hell will have had some experience with Windows on the desktop at some point. I doubt any negative sentiment toward MS is through lack of proficiency.
Yes Windows and Linux both have strengths and weaknesses, and it's good to play devils advocate when people aren't thinking clearly or sensibly. But MS have shown repeatedly that they are one of the scummiest companies on the planet, with poor technical credentials. Honestly, have a look at the history of computing throughout the 1900s. It's amazing. But MS managed to make people think that for example computers crashing every day was acceptable. It's taken them 15-20 years to build a remotely stable OS despite having more resources than god. They repeatedly try to sabotage competing products by abusing their position in the desktop segment and doing backhand deals. Maybe you respect and admire that. I don't, and neither do 95% of Slashdot. Why should they? Very cool things are happening now that MS are losing their grip on computing.
If it has no connection with you, why are you a self confessed marketing drone who can't stop creaming his pants over Microsoft? Why do you make retarded claims like you can't connect into other servers from bash and PowerShell is the best thing since sliced bread? If those really are your personal opinions, you're a gullible and/or ignorant fool who needs to do more research into products rather than believing bullshit sales brochures and equally ignorant sales reps. Not even for our sake, but your own if you want to make the most of your computers. Whether you are a shill or an idiot, I hope you're at least learning something from your time here.
Technically I'm sure you could if you had enough money and time ;) People sometimes take houses apart brick by brick, then rebuild them in other places. Houses and mountains don't change properties just because a border has moved past/through them (unless that border is a river..).
It's not exactly messing with our minds, it's just making us wonder what kind of creep enjoys lying for a living. And even worse, do you really think any technically literate person believes the stuf you say? If they actually reviewed your work based on results, you'd get a piss poor performance review.
Wasn't it something like: "Do no evil, or else." ? :p
Only kidding, I pretty much love Google. If Google were a person, it would probably be Tony Stark.
I've noticed this too. People parrot the same lines and maintain orthodoxy with a fairly uniform set of viewpoints. Frickin sheep.
Google are fighting to abolish marriage now? Does their evil know no bounds?
Yep I'm pretty sure it would be easy to meet and "bed" plenty of women if I did the socialising thing, but I'm getting way too selective. Every time I've ended a relationship I added another thing to the list of things I did or didn't want in a girlfriend, and it's really hard to find someone that fits those criteria. I'm past dating for the sake of dating, I am happy to be single now, and if I happen to meet someone great, that's good. If not, I'm not that fussed. I used to feel really bad for my one single aunt, but now I'm wondering if she has the right idea.
I don't think we dislike things directly because they're popular and we want to be hipsters. IMO it's probably more to do with our experience with Microsoft and Intel over the last couple of decades. We often will root for the underdog even when there isn't much of a difference to the end user simply because we don't want any one company getting too far ahead of the rest and crushing innovation.
Then you also have to consider that we simply are more aware of the alternatives in many situations and will choose the option that is best for us, which won't very often be the most popular choice. It's when geeks start acting like what's best for them is best for everyone when the problems start. Usually it takes the world a few years to be ready for what we are happy to use straight from the bleeding edge. Having said that, I think Android is a decent balance of customisability vs usability. You could probably say the same for the iPhone - as long as you jailbreak it first..
If you don't want your location being tracked, turn off location tracking in your browser or in your OS's location options. Simples.
(if you're talking in terms of resolution of course, it would make things difficult unless you could make out a certain DPI level..)
Well, to read most books you only really technically need to be able to make out two shades, so that's not a big problem as long as the lighting conditions are relatively uniform. Kindles also only have 16 shades of grey and they look pretty damn good.
That's kind of what I said. I find the idea of it kind of attractive because often the geeky girls I'm attracted to are so quiet and reserved and scared to do anything fun. But in reality a lot of the girls out clubbing I just wouldn't find interesting to hold a conversation with. It's difficult to find someone in between. Possibly because I don't play MMOs.
Nope, it's not obvious. I always thought of your name as a geeky Evangelion reference for some reason.
Well, in a club you're not going to be able to have much of a conversation, which is why I don't think it compares much to meeting someone in a place that you can actually hear each other without shouting. Physical attraction and "chemistry" is important, but after the last several girls I've met who at first seemed interesting and attractive but turned out to be quite shallow and brainless under the surface, I'm really wary of letting myself be anything more than just friends with people I've only just met. I think that had the side effect of a couple of girls I could have dated assumed I wasn't interested, but I'm happier with that right now than having another relationship that I'll regret getting into.
Whatever. It's still hilarious.
So you're not a guy? And you didn't say this?
Here's an experiment for you: go to a club some time and only give a meek, timid "hey" to whoever you want to pick up, only respond with short, meek statements to what they say, avoiding direct eye contact, etc, and compare your results to going there and being assertive, self confident, and persistent. "Bad Boys" win because bad boys tend to exude behavioral traits that many if not most women are attracted to.
Of course the macho act is going to go down better in a club, but that's because the type of person that would be a match for a quieter guy like me and probably a lot of other Slashdotters just isn't that into clubbing. I don't mind clubbing if I'm drunk, but in general I'm just not interested in clubbing or even being drunk.
That only works for linear games though. A lot of games these days have large open worlds. I'm happy just waiting for a whole game to download myself. I also get that some people are still stuck with dial-up though, so we're not going to see physical media going away. It would be kind of nice if they switched to SD cards or something though, that would make things faster, albeit probably more expensive. The best option would be letting the user choose, then those that want can just use the download. I vastly prefer downloads for convenience just because you don't have to insert the disc to play..
This from the guy advocating picking up women in clubs? You don't go to a club looking for a long term commitment. I'm not saying it can't happen, but most of the people in there are hoping for some fingering.
Yeah, I really should keep a list of the posts that make it obvious. I've just had a look over this guy's posting history, and he is clearly the same guy who owns the "North Korea" and "CmdrPony" accounts that do similar shilling. He's always pro Facebook and MS, and anti-Google. He likes to say "frankly" and "you can't deny" a lot.
Here he says that he works in advertising and talks about the worth of Twitter followers. (InsightIn140Bytes to me sounds like a reference to Twitter's 140 character limit, wouldn't you think?). I should really save a link to this comment for future use.
The highlight for me was from his North Korea account on Sept 14th though:
What Microsoft does get is what actual, real world businesses need. They also get what real world programmers need, and they get what enterprise servers need. Linux is great, but it misses many of those features - for example, how do you connect to a remote PC with bash and run your commands there? Oh, you can't. With PowerShell you can easily do that.
It just shows that the guy has no fucking clue. He tries to sound like he knows what he's talking about, saying he runs Linux servers but MS servers are still good for some things - which is true of course, they are better suited for some things - but he doesn't even know about ssh, so how can he really feel he's qualified to compare the two properly? When he says that kind of stuff it sounds like half truths or all out lies. He's either an idiot or insane because he's so pro MS without knowing his facts, or he's getting paid for it.
I like playing devil's advocate when I think people are just going along with groupthink btw, but what this guy does is far beyond devil's advocate..
Oh, yeah. I guess I should have just gone to bed instead of checking Slashdot at 12:30AM! From that point of view though, you could also have a microphone feeding real world sound into your headphones if you wanted to hear everything around you, or have hearing enhanced in some other way - perhaps selectively filtering out voices or traffic noise or that kind of thing.
Actually there aren't any magical markers showing you when you're moving from one country to another (sometimes there will be walls and fences of course, but that's not the point). You can take the time to find out where you are if you are placed in a random location, but likewise you can do a country lookup on the IP of any website you're on. If that site pulls in content remotely then you won't be able to know the source of all of it, but neither do you necessarily know where all the component parts for your computer or clothing have come from originally.
Anyway, my point was that countries exist, and the location of your server is important legally whether you like it or not.