Jeremy drove a few cars til they were out of fuel too. Even if they pre-scripted it, it would only be to make a point - that filling up the battery takes longer than filling up with fuel. Some people may have not considered that point. For others, it isn't that relevant. Being able to top up your reserves at home instead of at a fuel station is a big bonus for most probably.
Actually I was being honest about not needing the CLI in Ubuntu. I realised one day that I hadn't needed to do any weird configuration at all for a couple of Ubuntu installs. I still chose to use apt-get over synaptic (the GUI equivalent) a lot of the time, and likewise I like to use Remote Desktop and VNC from the command line, but there are GUIs for those who want them. Apache I did make a couple of symlinks for on the CLI, but there is probably a GUI tool for making symlinks (they're a bit like Shortcuts, but not quite the same) for those who want it, and anybody who uses Apache will very likely be someone who is comfortable with a CLI anyway of course. So I do think it's possible if your drivers are working perfectly. Since I moved to Mint of course, I've resorted to the CLI to sort out WiFi issues before. So Ubuntu is the only distro I'd recommend to noobs, and then I'd only recommend devices that come with Ubuntu, like certain Dells, as they're guaranteed to be supported in the driver dept!
As someone who has been a Windows admin for 10 years now, yes I have met a few who use Start->Run, one of whom is me. For example I don't know an easier way to start regedit without creating a shortcut to it in the Start Menu (which you don't want to do for most users!). Likewise if you're just doing one-liners like regsvr32 or whatever then it makes sense. Usually I type cmd in there for a command line if I'm not on my own Windows machines (which will have it in the Start Menu or on the desktop).
You're broadly correct in your GUI vs CLI comparison. Often a GUI is convenient. I've actually considered writing some GUIs for Linux myself just to make life easier for those who aren't aware of the locations of common config files, or those who know them but just want a convenient location for quickly configuring anything they want. Even if it just links to a bunch of text files like the Windows "sysedit" command (was still around in XP, not sure if it is on 7).
Yep. Linux has plenty of potential for end users on the desktop if it keeps improving, but it's definitely not ideal for everybody yet. In terms of my own Linux experience, this pretty much covers it though. I didn't like having to screw around just to configure my monitor resolution and get 3D in the past. I've not had to do that since I tried Ubuntu in 2008. Things are definitely heading in the right direction.
Well, he's a bit misinformed on the differences between the internals of OSX and your standard Linux distro (which conceptually are almost identical), but I think he's getting more annoyed at your average Linux evangelist's attitudes than the technicalities.
There have been some installs of Ubuntu where I'm sure I never had to touch the command line to do any usery stuff, so I know it's not true that the CLI is always necessary in Linux. I do think he's wrong there. However I got sick of Ubuntu, and with Mint (the second most popular Linux distro) I've had to resort to get things working the way I like.
I don't have a problem with the CLI myself, being a geek and CompSci graduate, etc, and I do disagree with him that it's "out of style". It's never really been "in style" for end users, but it is incredibly convenient for power users and adminstrators to be able to script and pipe everything about.
Linux is not a drop in replacement for Windows any more than OSX is, simply because there are some games and professional apps that you just can't run. He's being a bit of a troll in the way he gets so worked up and overgeneralises, but his overall message is that Linux either needs to change/babify to be suitable for everyday users. I think that's one option. The other option is that we stop caring about trying to go mainstream. I think that is also a sensible option. I'd love if Linux were mainstream on the desktop, because then I wouldn't need Windows for gaming - it's the only reason I've ever used Windows at home. But I also realised I don't care that much whether other people use Linux or not any more than I would want everyone else to use the same brand of car as me or something.
Yes he's being a douchebag in the way he phrases things, but so are the guys on the other end of the scale. I hate fanboism in general. That's why I always go devil's advocate on everything. I'm sure sometimes I come across as a fanboi myself. I can be very opinionated. I definitely was more fanboi-ish and religious about things in the past - but I at least try to see things from other people's point of view, apart from the guys who are very obviously shilling (who sometimes make valid points, but it's often among half-truths or completely misinformed viewpoints).
The government, ie I guess everyone pays for it through their taxes. Yes it was stupid to do that rather than save up for a deposit on a mortgage (which I've only started to treat as a real priority this year). Paying money into a mortgage would make more sense, as it would mean less money "wasted" on rent. I'd be paying interest, but I'd be saving more than I lost to the interest.
Our student loans are very low interest - I think they just match inflation+5% or something along those lines. So it makes much more sense to be spending money on a house/mortgage before putting extra money towards paying off the student loan for example. Personally I really don't want the extra debt and responsibility of a mortgage, but I do know it makes sense financially, so I'm trying to psyche myself up for it.
Well we had a little discussion the other week about hardware and games that didn't really involve OS at all that I remember. He even pointed me to the Linux section of Good Old Games - he didn't seem anti-Linux to me.
I do tend to call people out on witless fanboi-ism/shilling, but Hairyfeet just struck me as someone who's enthusiastic about tech in general, rather than one of the guys with a 2500000 level ID that's clearly just been created to slag off Google while boosting MS and Facebook (ie TechLA and the others).
There are actually some people out there who, strange as it may seem to you, have differing opinions, and reasons for those opinions. My best friend likes his iPhone, but for some reason is talking about getting a Windows Phone for his next phone. He simply liked the interface when he tried it. He's all about aesthetics, whereas I care more about features and the ethics of the companies involved, aesthetics being nice but not a priority. So while I find it hard to believe that anyone who says they like MS products isn't a shill.. some of them aren't.
Look at it this way: Your wife's spending $280 a month on meditation lessons to forget $26,000 of college education. And you're still drinking ordinary scotch?
Here in the UK, repayments on your student loan are only taken while you're making over a certain threshold value (something like £14,000 a year). Also, once you hit 45 years old the debt will be wiped regardless of how big it is. I rather stupidly paid £2000 of my savings into repaying the loan after I left University, when if I'd been thinking sensibly I should have just saved it towards a deposit on a mortgage. It started at about £14000 and currently I have £8000 left to pay off on it.
Strange, I didn't get that from his comment.. he mentions Win7 once.
As someone who's been using Linux as their primary OS for both work and personal use for the last 2 or 3 years, and has hated MS ever since Window s3.1, I think it's safe to say that I'm not a shill. Still, I just ordered a new PC, and guess what, I left Windows 7 on there, because Windows 7 finally has the ability to run sanely without admin privileges, and having a 6 core processor makes me a little less frustrated at the idea that I'll have to run AV to be safe. I'm going to use Windows 7 as my base OS for VMs and gaming, and do everything else in Linux VMs (probably Mint or Crunchbang, but I want to try out Turnkey too). If it turns out that all the games I like run well in WINE, then I'll switch to Linux as the base OS.. but simply having a machine with Windows 7 on it is not a "Microsoft talking point"..
I'd never taken cunt to mean woman, despite the obvious physiological link. To me a cunt is just a person who acts like a cunt. Which is similar to a dick or an asshole.
Solution: don't buy a phone if you aren't happy with its features. What's so hard about that? Not all iPhones run the latest iOS well - if they are allowed to install it at all.
Uhm... Google has had a Siri-like Voice Search feature (it does a lot more than just "search") for a long time. There have been apps around for ages that add to its functionality too. I realise the rest of your post was a joke, but too many people are ignorant of the facts and probably would assume Voice Search was added to copy Siri. Apple has also had voice features in its OSes since the 90s of course, and iOS already had voice features too. Now people are acting like it's a gift from the gods just because it was mentioned in an Apple key note or whatever happened.
Fair enough, but this being Slashdot, I'm sure everyone thought of Copyright as soon as they read the first sentence in the summary. The concept is definitely applicable to sites like torrent trackers.
Disclaimer: I don't actually agree with violating Copyright in most cases, but I do think it's stupid to have double standards. If posting a link to defamation isn't defamation, then posting a link to Copyright infringing content isn't Copyright infringement.
It doesn't need to pay for itself, it just needs to destabilise your enemy's economy.
I don't think the war in Iraq and Afghanistan have paid for themselves either..
If you do your mining via a botnet (definitely within any government's capability if they wanted) then your resources are almost free too. Especially if instead of taking down botnets, the FBI just took control for example.
In any case, it's a stupid idea for any country to adopt bitcoin as its currency.
it' not impossible a country could adopt it as a currency and provide a reserve system. That would make no sense for a major country, but for a banana republic that did not trust it's own leadership not to print money that would be a sound idea.
Anyone can "print" bitcoins if they build a powerful enough computer. I don't think a country would adopt bitcoin, because then anyone with a powerful enough supercomputer could game their economy.
That depends on if you ended up on the wrong side of the road, and therefore it was only luck that stopped anyone else from crashing into you even if you were sure that you weren't going to actually go off the road.
Yep, generally refined foods are pretty bad for us, I guess because we haven't evolved to deal with them. We're used to eating food with roughage and fat that slow digestion, so as not to dump energy into our bodies so rapidly.
I like workouts and the outdoors. I also like programming yes. I don't think all construction or programming jobs would be "good" jobs. On top of that you have plenty of minimum wage jobs that don't count as good simply for the level of pay. You can only relax and stop worrying about money over a certain threshhold income.
Just because you're not fat, doesn't mean you're healthy. It's an indicator, but certainly not everything. You have no evidence as to whether diet or behavior helped or hindered. The scientific community is currently going through a shift where they're no longer proclaiming any fat to be bad (which apart from trans-fats and apparently hydrogenated fats, is complete BS). It's depressing to see a paragraph both criticising saturated fat while praising nuts (very high in fat and saturated fats). Eventually they'll just admit that Ancel Keys was a fool pushing an agenda. Ever since he demonised fat, people have just been getting fatter and heart disease has gone crazy. It's sad.
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Jeremy drove a few cars til they were out of fuel too. Even if they pre-scripted it, it would only be to make a point - that filling up the battery takes longer than filling up with fuel. Some people may have not considered that point. For others, it isn't that relevant. Being able to top up your reserves at home instead of at a fuel station is a big bonus for most probably.
Actually I was being honest about not needing the CLI in Ubuntu. I realised one day that I hadn't needed to do any weird configuration at all for a couple of Ubuntu installs. I still chose to use apt-get over synaptic (the GUI equivalent) a lot of the time, and likewise I like to use Remote Desktop and VNC from the command line, but there are GUIs for those who want them. Apache I did make a couple of symlinks for on the CLI, but there is probably a GUI tool for making symlinks (they're a bit like Shortcuts, but not quite the same) for those who want it, and anybody who uses Apache will very likely be someone who is comfortable with a CLI anyway of course. So I do think it's possible if your drivers are working perfectly. Since I moved to Mint of course, I've resorted to the CLI to sort out WiFi issues before. So Ubuntu is the only distro I'd recommend to noobs, and then I'd only recommend devices that come with Ubuntu, like certain Dells, as they're guaranteed to be supported in the driver dept!
As someone who has been a Windows admin for 10 years now, yes I have met a few who use Start->Run, one of whom is me. For example I don't know an easier way to start regedit without creating a shortcut to it in the Start Menu (which you don't want to do for most users!). Likewise if you're just doing one-liners like regsvr32 or whatever then it makes sense. Usually I type cmd in there for a command line if I'm not on my own Windows machines (which will have it in the Start Menu or on the desktop).
You're broadly correct in your GUI vs CLI comparison. Often a GUI is convenient. I've actually considered writing some GUIs for Linux myself just to make life easier for those who aren't aware of the locations of common config files, or those who know them but just want a convenient location for quickly configuring anything they want. Even if it just links to a bunch of text files like the Windows "sysedit" command (was still around in XP, not sure if it is on 7).
Yep. Linux has plenty of potential for end users on the desktop if it keeps improving, but it's definitely not ideal for everybody yet. In terms of my own Linux experience, this pretty much covers it though. I didn't like having to screw around just to configure my monitor resolution and get 3D in the past. I've not had to do that since I tried Ubuntu in 2008. Things are definitely heading in the right direction.
Well, he's a bit misinformed on the differences between the internals of OSX and your standard Linux distro (which conceptually are almost identical), but I think he's getting more annoyed at your average Linux evangelist's attitudes than the technicalities.
There have been some installs of Ubuntu where I'm sure I never had to touch the command line to do any usery stuff, so I know it's not true that the CLI is always necessary in Linux. I do think he's wrong there. However I got sick of Ubuntu, and with Mint (the second most popular Linux distro) I've had to resort to get things working the way I like.
I don't have a problem with the CLI myself, being a geek and CompSci graduate, etc, and I do disagree with him that it's "out of style". It's never really been "in style" for end users, but it is incredibly convenient for power users and adminstrators to be able to script and pipe everything about.
Linux is not a drop in replacement for Windows any more than OSX is, simply because there are some games and professional apps that you just can't run. He's being a bit of a troll in the way he gets so worked up and overgeneralises, but his overall message is that Linux either needs to change/babify to be suitable for everyday users. I think that's one option. The other option is that we stop caring about trying to go mainstream. I think that is also a sensible option. I'd love if Linux were mainstream on the desktop, because then I wouldn't need Windows for gaming - it's the only reason I've ever used Windows at home. But I also realised I don't care that much whether other people use Linux or not any more than I would want everyone else to use the same brand of car as me or something.
Yes he's being a douchebag in the way he phrases things, but so are the guys on the other end of the scale. I hate fanboism in general. That's why I always go devil's advocate on everything. I'm sure sometimes I come across as a fanboi myself. I can be very opinionated. I definitely was more fanboi-ish and religious about things in the past - but I at least try to see things from other people's point of view, apart from the guys who are very obviously shilling (who sometimes make valid points, but it's often among half-truths or completely misinformed viewpoints).
The government, ie I guess everyone pays for it through their taxes. Yes it was stupid to do that rather than save up for a deposit on a mortgage (which I've only started to treat as a real priority this year). Paying money into a mortgage would make more sense, as it would mean less money "wasted" on rent. I'd be paying interest, but I'd be saving more than I lost to the interest.
Our student loans are very low interest - I think they just match inflation+5% or something along those lines. So it makes much more sense to be spending money on a house/mortgage before putting extra money towards paying off the student loan for example. Personally I really don't want the extra debt and responsibility of a mortgage, but I do know it makes sense financially, so I'm trying to psyche myself up for it.
Well we had a little discussion the other week about hardware and games that didn't really involve OS at all that I remember. He even pointed me to the Linux section of Good Old Games - he didn't seem anti-Linux to me.
I do tend to call people out on witless fanboi-ism/shilling, but Hairyfeet just struck me as someone who's enthusiastic about tech in general, rather than one of the guys with a 2500000 level ID that's clearly just been created to slag off Google while boosting MS and Facebook (ie TechLA and the others).
There are actually some people out there who, strange as it may seem to you, have differing opinions, and reasons for those opinions. My best friend likes his iPhone, but for some reason is talking about getting a Windows Phone for his next phone. He simply liked the interface when he tried it. He's all about aesthetics, whereas I care more about features and the ethics of the companies involved, aesthetics being nice but not a priority. So while I find it hard to believe that anyone who says they like MS products isn't a shill.. some of them aren't.
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Look at it this way: Your wife's spending $280 a month on meditation lessons to forget $26,000 of college education. And you're still drinking ordinary scotch?
Here in the UK, repayments on your student loan are only taken while you're making over a certain threshold value (something like £14,000 a year). Also, once you hit 45 years old the debt will be wiped regardless of how big it is. I rather stupidly paid £2000 of my savings into repaying the loan after I left University, when if I'd been thinking sensibly I should have just saved it towards a deposit on a mortgage. It started at about £14000 and currently I have £8000 left to pay off on it.
Strange, I didn't get that from his comment.. he mentions Win7 once.
As someone who's been using Linux as their primary OS for both work and personal use for the last 2 or 3 years, and has hated MS ever since Window s3.1, I think it's safe to say that I'm not a shill. Still, I just ordered a new PC, and guess what, I left Windows 7 on there, because Windows 7 finally has the ability to run sanely without admin privileges, and having a 6 core processor makes me a little less frustrated at the idea that I'll have to run AV to be safe. I'm going to use Windows 7 as my base OS for VMs and gaming, and do everything else in Linux VMs (probably Mint or Crunchbang, but I want to try out Turnkey too). If it turns out that all the games I like run well in WINE, then I'll switch to Linux as the base OS.. but simply having a machine with Windows 7 on it is not a "Microsoft talking point"..
I'd never taken cunt to mean woman, despite the obvious physiological link. To me a cunt is just a person who acts like a cunt. Which is similar to a dick or an asshole.
You mean as opposed to the iPhone?
WTF happened to you, AC? You used to be so witty and inciteful.. uh, I mean insightful.
Solution: don't buy a phone if you aren't happy with its features. What's so hard about that? Not all iPhones run the latest iOS well - if they are allowed to install it at all.
Uhm... Google has had a Siri-like Voice Search feature (it does a lot more than just "search") for a long time. There have been apps around for ages that add to its functionality too. I realise the rest of your post was a joke, but too many people are ignorant of the facts and probably would assume Voice Search was added to copy Siri. Apple has also had voice features in its OSes since the 90s of course, and iOS already had voice features too. Now people are acting like it's a gift from the gods just because it was mentioned in an Apple key note or whatever happened.
The second part of what you said makes the first part relevant. Okay.
Fair enough, but this being Slashdot, I'm sure everyone thought of Copyright as soon as they read the first sentence in the summary. The concept is definitely applicable to sites like torrent trackers.
Disclaimer: I don't actually agree with violating Copyright in most cases, but I do think it's stupid to have double standards. If posting a link to defamation isn't defamation, then posting a link to Copyright infringing content isn't Copyright infringement.
What has being "green" got to do with Copyright law?
I can't remember the URL for goatse.cx, or I'd totally post it.
It doesn't need to pay for itself, it just needs to destabilise your enemy's economy.
I don't think the war in Iraq and Afghanistan have paid for themselves either..
If you do your mining via a botnet (definitely within any government's capability if they wanted) then your resources are almost free too. Especially if instead of taking down botnets, the FBI just took control for example.
In any case, it's a stupid idea for any country to adopt bitcoin as its currency.
Yeah but that's not a guaranteed thing, whereas if you set a couple of the top 10 supercomputers mining bitcoins, you're going to get results.
it' not impossible a country could adopt it as a currency and provide a reserve system. That would make no sense for a major country, but for a banana republic that did not trust it's own leadership not to print money that would be a sound idea.
Anyone can "print" bitcoins if they build a powerful enough computer. I don't think a country would adopt bitcoin, because then anyone with a powerful enough supercomputer could game their economy.
That depends on if you ended up on the wrong side of the road, and therefore it was only luck that stopped anyone else from crashing into you even if you were sure that you weren't going to actually go off the road.
Does it prove that the software design operates correctly, or the implementation? I'd think you'd still want to run some tests.
Yep, generally refined foods are pretty bad for us, I guess because we haven't evolved to deal with them. We're used to eating food with roughage and fat that slow digestion, so as not to dump energy into our bodies so rapidly.
I like workouts and the outdoors. I also like programming yes. I don't think all construction or programming jobs would be "good" jobs. On top of that you have plenty of minimum wage jobs that don't count as good simply for the level of pay. You can only relax and stop worrying about money over a certain threshhold income.
Great scientific method there, sparky.
Just because you're not fat, doesn't mean you're healthy. It's an indicator, but certainly not everything. You have no evidence as to whether diet or behavior helped or hindered. The scientific community is currently going through a shift where they're no longer proclaiming any fat to be bad (which apart from trans-fats and apparently hydrogenated fats, is complete BS). It's depressing to see a paragraph both criticising saturated fat while praising nuts (very high in fat and saturated fats). Eventually they'll just admit that Ancel Keys was a fool pushing an agenda. Ever since he demonised fat, people have just been getting fatter and heart disease has gone crazy. It's sad.
Diet and learned behavior also run in families.
You're right - it's probably closer to 2%