No cross environment or VM can replace actual testing on actual target hardware. No matter how closely manufacturers claim to follow the specs, quirks always manage to work their way in, and sometimes these quirks cause things to run differently. A serious development house will want to validate their code on all major versions of the hardware, esp if those versions come from different manufacturers.
I think this is demonstrating exactly what Apple's policies are trying to prevent from happening. From the perspective of both a consumer and a professional developer, these are serious issues.
Ahm, you do realize that one of the reasons companies have been moving back to vxWorks is because of these 'OMG you used GPL, give me full access to modify these devices!' rants. I used to work in embedded systems using Linux. Were I do to so again, I would not advise my employer to go GPL, and esp not GPL3.
Labs that build their own equipment from scratch tend to stick with OSS stuff, labs that buy pre-built instruments tend to use windows based control software. That is actually one of the splits that makes answering the OP's question in any useful way impossible. What OS scientists and engineers use is pretty heavily dependent on their needs, and needs vary wildly.
Well, the other 80% does a variety of things including high-sec player corporations, factional warfare, piracy, economics, etc.. but they are still 'playing the game wrong' since they are not part of the high marquee value power structures or fleet fights.
Conversly, there are a lot of whiners on the board that think the game is too easy, needs to be harder to play and more elite, or simply want lots of easy targets....
I think the appeal is that people who could never play the real life versions of these political games can still play them out in EVE. EVE has it's own little napoleans, few of which would have the same level of success in the real world. I say few because there actually are a few CEOs playing EVE as, well, CEOs,... at least one has dumped over $100k into the game.
The shortest answer is, '0.0 space' is the 20% of the player base that CCP feels is playing the game 'correctly'. Everyone else is a paying leach that they have been trying to find ways to 'encourage' out into 0.0 without loosing too many subscriptions.
I do not think it is users that keep asking for the bloat, it is bored programmers who keep wanting to fold in the features they like. Most users I have talked to have not used a single 'feature' added in the last two major revisions, but do complain about how the load/shutdown times have been getting longer.
This is probably too late to be noticed, but responding anyway. The products for the niche market have not generally become more expensive, they simply have not become cheap as quickly as the consumer grade stuff. Looking back at prices when I tinkered decades ago and when I do today, I can get vastly more powerful components for much cheaper then back then. It is not as cheap as the consumer stuff, but they have come down hugely in price.
Laws are an arbitrary agreement within a state which regulates human behavior.. If the state decides that software can be patented, then it can be patented. Good or bad idea, it is not fraud.
This is an old argument..... the two markets have co-existed for decades. All that is changed is that more (not all, perhaps even not many, but a vocal group of) hot-rodders are feeling more of an entitlement to easily alter whatever device the want. They want the market to cater to their expensive tastes and they want to pay little for it. Rather then patronize businesses that do produce what they want, they want others to change for them. Notice how much debate there is over Apple's choices even though they are following the exact same model as cell phone and other embedded companies did before them.
Then why shouldn't everyone get at least 2 or 3 PhDs? Education is a continuum, and all this guy is saying is that we might have slid a little too far in one direction and would benefit from pulling back. This is not the same as going ALL the way the other direction.
I disagree. People expect Flash to work because they see it work on their PC. Unless Adobe has made huge strides, it will generally not behave as well on an embedded device. It is true that consumers do not care what something was written in, but they do care when it works worse then the platform (PC/Notebook) then they are used to, and then they blame the embedded manufacturer. If Flash behaved seamlessly and Apple had the power to fix/optimize for their platform they probably would not have cared, but Adobe is pretty about such things and have traditionally been hostile to the needs of embedded development.
So personally, I blame Adobe. They are reaping what the sowed here..... their attitude of 'only PCs matter, if you can get our VM to run great but do not expect it to be changed for you' alienated a lot of OEMs.
True, not "ALL" users, but I would not use the word "SOME" either. I think "MOST" would be accurate. Also, you are not talking about 'using' the hardware you bought, you are talking about adding tinkering with it. If you want to tinker, the are products better suited for that.
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The Symbian point is an important one. While Apple is getting a lot of flack for this (because people just love hating Apple), this is pretty normal practice for embedded devices like cell phones. Crow, Apple is being a hell of a lot more open then many of the networks have been over the years. Ever try publishing something for, say, Verizon branded phones? I think this is what is pissing me off so much about this entire discussion.... people are taking what is a normal and sane buisness practice and, because it is Apple, throwing a fit.
They also sell well because of their software and in part BECAUSE of their lockdown. What is annoying for developers translates to a better experience for consumers and better PR for Apple.
If you want to blame anyone, blame consumers. They are the ones that blame Apple (or any other embedded device manufacturer) when an app written by joe-shmoe causes the system become less usable. That is why Apple controls the chain so closely, because THEY get the PR hit when 3rd party applications effect the device rather then the application authors... this is esp true for systems like flash where people are used to seeing it work on their PC and thus assume that it will work just as well on an embedded system.
I actually find the anit-porn movement to be far more anti-women then then porn. Steal sexism.. 'oh, poor women! they are not mature enough to decide for themselves, loosing something precious every time they have sex!'. It is just a recasting of the old idea that a women's value (to her menfolk) is measured by her virginity, and thus anything that decreases her purity must be exploiting her since her sexuality should only be owned by her father/husband.
Oddly enough, I am against it for a different reason. Part of the idea is having a place where kids know they are not supposed to go. Personally I would rather see a.kids domain that is kept kid safe, thus the internet's 'default setting' is adult rather then child. Adding a.xxx domain encourages ghettoizing the adult aspects of the internet and making the other sites 'kid friendly'.. so the net goes LCD.
I think the argument is generally that by giving it an official place, you legitimize it. Thus it is a step in the wrong direction from the perspective of people looking to clean it off the internet completely.
The 'noticed' part refers to the amount of time and resources nesseary to product the ammount that went out. A whole year or so of overtime using specific equipment day in and day out.
More likely they just wanted a solution since solving high profile cases tends to result in promotions and job offers while failing to solve said cases results in public scorn. History is filled with police that advancd their careers via finding a patsy to pin a high profile crime on.
Historical guilt is not sufficient reason to allow present poor behavior. If it was, the mess would be endless,.... It should also be noted that the tribal sovereignty is not equivalent to being a sovereign nation. They are granted limited additional control over their territory, but functionally are much more like states in many ways.. they are still under the umbrella of the US federal government.
From the sound of it, they did not violate the terms of the informed consent agreement, but instead violated what a group of people who's english was not very good thought the terms meant.
Personally, this case actually scares me a bit since it focused on glurge and what the signer *thought* something meant rather then the actual wording of the contract. If this was not a group that people had sympathy for, the results probably would have been very different.
Agreed. I do not think this obsession people have with 'my language/tool must be the end tool capable of doing everything' is really healthy. Too many people want to be part of the 'one twue language' and try to get things extended to cover too many domains.
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No cross environment or VM can replace actual testing on actual target hardware. No matter how closely manufacturers claim to follow the specs, quirks always manage to work their way in, and sometimes these quirks cause things to run differently. A serious development house will want to validate their code on all major versions of the hardware, esp if those versions come from different manufacturers.
I think this is demonstrating exactly what Apple's policies are trying to prevent from happening. From the perspective of both a consumer and a professional developer, these are serious issues.
Ahm, you do realize that one of the reasons companies have been moving back to vxWorks is because of these 'OMG you used GPL, give me full access to modify these devices!' rants. I used to work in embedded systems using Linux. Were I do to so again, I would not advise my employer to go GPL, and esp not GPL3.
Labs that build their own equipment from scratch tend to stick with OSS stuff, labs that buy pre-built instruments tend to use windows based control software. That is actually one of the splits that makes answering the OP's question in any useful way impossible. What OS scientists and engineers use is pretty heavily dependent on their needs, and needs vary wildly.
Well, the other 80% does a variety of things including high-sec player corporations, factional warfare, piracy, economics, etc.. but they are still 'playing the game wrong' since they are not part of the high marquee value power structures or fleet fights.
Conversly, there are a lot of whiners on the board that think the game is too easy, needs to be harder to play and more elite, or simply want lots of easy targets....
I think the appeal is that people who could never play the real life versions of these political games can still play them out in EVE. EVE has it's own little napoleans, few of which would have the same level of success in the real world. I say few because there actually are a few CEOs playing EVE as, well, CEOs,... at least one has dumped over $100k into the game.
The shortest answer is, '0.0 space' is the 20% of the player base that CCP feels is playing the game 'correctly'. Everyone else is a paying leach that they have been trying to find ways to 'encourage' out into 0.0 without loosing too many subscriptions.
I do not think it is users that keep asking for the bloat, it is bored programmers who keep wanting to fold in the features they like. Most users I have talked to have not used a single 'feature' added in the last two major revisions, but do complain about how the load/shutdown times have been getting longer.
This is probably too late to be noticed, but responding anyway. The products for the niche market have not generally become more expensive, they simply have not become cheap as quickly as the consumer grade stuff. Looking back at prices when I tinkered decades ago and when I do today, I can get vastly more powerful components for much cheaper then back then. It is not as cheap as the consumer stuff, but they have come down hugely in price.
Laws are an arbitrary agreement within a state which regulates human behavior.. If the state decides that software can be patented, then it can be patented. Good or bad idea, it is not fraud.
This is an old argument..... the two markets have co-existed for decades. All that is changed is that more (not all, perhaps even not many, but a vocal group of) hot-rodders are feeling more of an entitlement to easily alter whatever device the want. They want the market to cater to their expensive tastes and they want to pay little for it. Rather then patronize businesses that do produce what they want, they want others to change for them. Notice how much debate there is over Apple's choices even though they are following the exact same model as cell phone and other embedded companies did before them.
Then why shouldn't everyone get at least 2 or 3 PhDs? Education is a continuum, and all this guy is saying is that we might have slid a little too far in one direction and would benefit from pulling back. This is not the same as going ALL the way the other direction.
I disagree. People expect Flash to work because they see it work on their PC. Unless Adobe has made huge strides, it will generally not behave as well on an embedded device. It is true that consumers do not care what something was written in, but they do care when it works worse then the platform (PC/Notebook) then they are used to, and then they blame the embedded manufacturer. If Flash behaved seamlessly and Apple had the power to fix/optimize for their platform they probably would not have cared, but Adobe is pretty about such things and have traditionally been hostile to the needs of embedded development. So personally, I blame Adobe. They are reaping what the sowed here..... their attitude of 'only PCs matter, if you can get our VM to run great but do not expect it to be changed for you' alienated a lot of OEMs.
True, not "ALL" users, but I would not use the word "SOME" either. I think "MOST" would be accurate. Also, you are not talking about 'using' the hardware you bought, you are talking about adding tinkering with it. If you want to tinker, the are products better suited for that.
The Symbian point is an important one. While Apple is getting a lot of flack for this (because people just love hating Apple), this is pretty normal practice for embedded devices like cell phones. Crow, Apple is being a hell of a lot more open then many of the networks have been over the years. Ever try publishing something for, say, Verizon branded phones? I think this is what is pissing me off so much about this entire discussion.... people are taking what is a normal and sane buisness practice and, because it is Apple, throwing a fit.
They also sell well because of their software and in part BECAUSE of their lockdown. What is annoying for developers translates to a better experience for consumers and better PR for Apple. If you want to blame anyone, blame consumers. They are the ones that blame Apple (or any other embedded device manufacturer) when an app written by joe-shmoe causes the system become less usable. That is why Apple controls the chain so closely, because THEY get the PR hit when 3rd party applications effect the device rather then the application authors... this is esp true for systems like flash where people are used to seeing it work on their PC and thus assume that it will work just as well on an embedded system.
I actually find the anit-porn movement to be far more anti-women then then porn. Steal sexism.. 'oh, poor women! they are not mature enough to decide for themselves, loosing something precious every time they have sex!'. It is just a recasting of the old idea that a women's value (to her menfolk) is measured by her virginity, and thus anything that decreases her purity must be exploiting her since her sexuality should only be owned by her father/husband.
Oddly enough, I am against it for a different reason. Part of the idea is having a place where kids know they are not supposed to go. Personally I would rather see a .kids domain that is kept kid safe, thus the internet's 'default setting' is adult rather then child. Adding a .xxx domain encourages ghettoizing the adult aspects of the internet and making the other sites 'kid friendly'.. so the net goes LCD.
I think the argument is generally that by giving it an official place, you legitimize it. Thus it is a step in the wrong direction from the perspective of people looking to clean it off the internet completely.
The 'noticed' part refers to the amount of time and resources nesseary to product the ammount that went out. A whole year or so of overtime using specific equipment day in and day out.
More likely they just wanted a solution since solving high profile cases tends to result in promotions and job offers while failing to solve said cases results in public scorn. History is filled with police that advancd their careers via finding a patsy to pin a high profile crime on.
Historical guilt is not sufficient reason to allow present poor behavior. If it was, the mess would be endless,.... It should also be noted that the tribal sovereignty is not equivalent to being a sovereign nation. They are granted limited additional control over their territory, but functionally are much more like states in many ways.. they are still under the umbrella of the US federal government.
From the sound of it, they did not violate the terms of the informed consent agreement, but instead violated what a group of people who's english was not very good thought the terms meant. Personally, this case actually scares me a bit since it focused on glurge and what the signer *thought* something meant rather then the actual wording of the contract. If this was not a group that people had sympathy for, the results probably would have been very different.
Agreed. I do not think this obsession people have with 'my language/tool must be the end tool capable of doing everything' is really healthy. Too many people want to be part of the 'one twue language' and try to get things extended to cover too many domains.