I find your argument specious but your rhetoric beguiling. I wish to subscribe to your newsletter and learn more of your wonderful organisation and its baby smoothies.
WOW! I smoke, drink, do drugs and download porn. I had no idea I was a fundamentalist!
You're obviously not taking the right drugs. I'd recommend a quiet environment and some strong acid, should fix those religious beliefs right up.
What happens when they pass a law that allows for experimentation on people your age?
Yes, that's a reasonable comparison to make. Apart from the fact these 'unborn children' (as you asked us to refer to them) aren't sentient, self-aware or capable of experiencing pain. I rarely hear of Christian groups protesting animal experimentation or slaughter methods, yet when we kill them we're extinguishing a consciousness, however rudimentary they may be by comparison to our own.
I have no idea why they're pushing the site as Azureus 3.0 but that's a legitimate download link, the same one offered on the SourceForge site. Interestingly while Zudeo is handling the press, the sf page has taken a dive.
nyud.net:8080 shows they've got a prominent ad for Zudeo on the mainpage though.
Given a choice, I'd much rather read 'Knitting on the Road' then suffer through Tolkien again.
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While knitting on the road on her journey to Gandalung, wending solemnly through the treachorous passes of Orkdell, Nancy espied a riotous figure approaching from the shadowy North, wherein dwelt the Elves of Glimmersill.
"Greetings Knitting Lady of the Road", addressed the stout and sturdy figure, "allow me the honour of addressing you and giving you an 800 page recitation of my lineage."
I live in Fortitude Valley in Queensland. It's about the closest thing our state has to a red light district.
Every single adult store sells real, unsimulated X-rated videos and there seem to be no legal repercussions. My understanding is that although traditionally you can't sell X-rated video outside the ACT, it's not enforced anymore (at least in QLD).
Seeing teenagers download my favorite OS for free, or seeing the experience cheapened in the eyes of others because its running on unsupported hardware bothers me.
I agree... there's nothing more reprehensible than teenagers leeching and hacking away at operating systems.
Sure, some might argue that we've had some amazing software developed as a result of nefarious kids like these but that's proved inadequate when balanced against the posters (and Apples) discomfort.
While I accept that languages evolve over time, giving academic legitimacy to a shorthand form that still hasn't achieved a clear consensus is idiotic. I've lost count of the number of times I've seen a text message abbreviation that was new to me and made little or no sense.
Before I'm accused of dating myself with that comment, I'm certainly younger than the majority of high school teachers so you can imagine the problems they'll encounter grading these papers accurately.
While I agree that you learn many things playing with Gentoo, I don't think the skillset necessarily translates to other distributions... which was kinda my point. Besides if you think compiler optimizations (often redundant) and learning to build things from source (always useful) are worthwhile things to learn, people would be better off reading/building LFS than just running automated Gentoo scripts.
And before anyone brings up abortion clinic bombers, you want to know why it isn't a problem? Because there are a lot of Christians like me who wouldn't hesitate to shoot those violent fucks if we caught them in the act. Why? Our religion teaches that preserving life is a duty of all Jews and Christians.
I don't even know where to start... do you religious people actually listen to what you say?
While I admire your perspicacity and crazed ranting, I'm forced to take exception to one of your claims.
Now, INSFBCL (I'm Not Some Fancy Big City Lawyer), but you don't have to be teh inventor of the intarweb to know that that much heat escaping into the atmosphere is at least quintupling the effects of Global Warning every year.
There have been numerous studies (and at least one graph) that prove that global warming is solely due to the decline of pirates since the 1800's. You've obviously fallen victim to the scurillous propaganda spread by those devil-worshipping heathens from the SubGenius cult.
I'm a Linux junkie and have been for the last 9 years or so, I hate Windows enough that I'd qualify as a Slashdot submitter. That being said, I think if I was forced into a situation where I was on a box that was permanently offline I'd be running Windows.
I have no idea what your primary uses of a PC are, myself I love to dabble in various tech areas. Learn a new scripting language, maybe try my hand at 3d modelling, play around with CMS next week, etc. Linux tends to be a very dry OS when you lose internet, you can't play games (not many great ones at least) and there's only so long you can use man/info pages as your primary source of system information before you shoot yourself. Add to that the fact that, as this thread discusses, Linux is generally ill-suited for out-of-the-box multimedia.
If I was determined to use offline Linux, I'd look into remastering a PCLinuxOS MiniMe release. There's instructions on the wiki and a lot of discussion about it on the forums.
Note: I run PCL but despite mentioning it twice this discussion, I'm not affiliated with it in any way (nor have I donated yet... sorry texstar).
You presume that widespread adoption is a goal of all Linux users. Personally I love being able to choose the distro that's right for me at any given time. If I have to give that up for the sake of the unwashed masses inability to make an informed decision, I'll pass.
I started on Slackware, moved to Mandrake, jumped between random distros for a while, back to Slackware, built LFS systems for a year or two and I'm now happily ensconced in PCLinuxOS.
You're also ignoring the fact that we live in a consumer-driven society, people are used to a multitude of choices for any single item. How many brands of TVs, computers, dvd players, washing machines and cars are there? Certain Linux 'brands' will rise to the top and be increasingly picked up by mainstream users, others will languish in geek obscurity. Sounds good to me.
True but we're talking about open-source though, which for quite a lot of people (myself included) is a hobby and not a career. I code, script, eat/breathe/sleep linux and bore my mates with the occassional burst of anti-ms rhetoric (too much slashdot) yet I've got zero experience in infotech and my only university qualification is in ancient history.
While I've never read any studies on it, I'd guess I'm far from alone. I refuse to cook when I get home, I'm guessing a lot of IT people don't want to code after work either.
Hasn't anyone ever thought that these two viewpoints might be related? That maybe the reason more women don't go into tech is cultural - not in the "women are more interested in nail polish than hard drives"-sort of way, but in the sense that they sick and tired of dealing with all the "oohh, titties!" comments that we men think is good natured humor, but gets old with women?
While I think it's an interesting comment, my own experience doesn't quite mesh. I'm a geek by inclination and habit but a chef by trade. Hospitality is a breeding ground for the worst kind of sexism (which, in truth, I'm very very guilty of).. the comments we routinely throw at our waitresses would make the average geek blush in shame. We've never had a shortage of willing workers, nor do I recall a single person quitting over our harassment.
By contrast, in every tech project I've been involved with the majority of guys have been over-sensitive nearly to the point of emasculation. My own behaviour is much improved, due to the simple fact that you're dealing with women whose opinions and intellect you can respect. It probably also helps that it's harder to objectify someone you'll, most likely, never see.
I absolutely worshipped Space A&B when I was a teenager, thought it was the best (albeit the shortest-lived) sci-fi show around. Recently I leeched a few of the episodes and found it dated, with simplistic themes and wooden acting. Characters I cared about in my youth now seem banal.
As others have posted, it's probably a reflection on some of the truly brilliant sci-fi we've had in the last few years (my two cents: Farscape, Firefly, SG, BSG).
They might care more if people like me didn't keep doing a free clean of their machine to remove all the muck they have downloaded every few months.
Which would be why the 4 non-geeks sharehousing with me are all running firefox, also why my mum and most of my computer-illiterate friends are running firefox. I'm the one who'll have to fix their windows install (despite my abhorrence for that OS) so they get told what browser to run (or fix it themselves). Remove the IE quickstart icon and leave firefox in it's place, most people adapt fairly quickly.
Of course it's possible that you're a nicer person than me.
Dictatorships almost invariably start by some powerful ruler using some strikingly frightening event to declare that "special rules" must be enacted to fight whomever did the deed, and planting enough fear in people's minds so that they accept making the tradeoffs.
Not to worry yanks, I'm packaging a shipment of vaudeville masks as we speak.
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I find your argument specious but your rhetoric beguiling. I wish to subscribe to your newsletter and learn more of your wonderful organisation and its baby smoothies.
WOW! I smoke, drink, do drugs and download porn. I had no idea I was a fundamentalist!
You're obviously not taking the right drugs. I'd recommend a quiet environment and some strong acid, should fix those religious beliefs right up.
What happens when they pass a law that allows for experimentation on people your age?
Yes, that's a reasonable comparison to make. Apart from the fact these 'unborn children' (as you asked us to refer to them) aren't sentient, self-aware or capable of experiencing pain. I rarely hear of Christian groups protesting animal experimentation or slaughter methods, yet when we kill them we're extinguishing a consciousness, however rudimentary they may be by comparison to our own.
The download link on Zudeo is http://torrents.aelitis.com:88/files/Azureus_2.5.0 .0_linux.tar.bz2.
I have no idea why they're pushing the site as Azureus 3.0 but that's a legitimate download link, the same one offered on the SourceForge site. Interestingly while Zudeo is handling the press, the sf page has taken a dive.
nyud.net:8080 shows they've got a prominent ad for Zudeo on the mainpage though.
Either that, or the algorithm is secretly trying to push Christianity... :-)
Hrmmm... is that why my collection on LibraryThing now has a 'Burn' icon next to all the fantasy books?
You may be on to something there.
Given a choice, I'd much rather read 'Knitting on the Road' then suffer through Tolkien again.
---While knitting on the road on her journey to Gandalung, wending solemnly through the treachorous passes of Orkdell, Nancy espied a riotous figure approaching from the shadowy North, wherein dwelt the Elves of Glimmersill.
"Greetings Knitting Lady of the Road", addressed the stout and sturdy figure, "allow me the honour of addressing you and giving you an 800 page recitation of my lineage."
I live in Fortitude Valley in Queensland. It's about the closest thing our state has to a red light district.
Every single adult store sells real, unsimulated X-rated videos and there seem to be no legal repercussions. My understanding is that although traditionally you can't sell X-rated video outside the ACT, it's not enforced anymore (at least in QLD).
Seeing teenagers download my favorite OS for free, or seeing the experience cheapened in the eyes of others because its running on unsupported hardware bothers me.
I agree... there's nothing more reprehensible than teenagers leeching and hacking away at operating systems. Sure, some might argue that we've had some amazing software developed as a result of nefarious kids like these but that's proved inadequate when balanced against the posters (and Apples) discomfort.
Urmmm... I was talking about illegible writing right? Maybe the subject line had something to do with that rather than a password?
While I accept that languages evolve over time, giving academic legitimacy to a shorthand form that still hasn't achieved a clear consensus is idiotic. I've lost count of the number of times I've seen a text message abbreviation that was new to me and made little or no sense.
Before I'm accused of dating myself with that comment, I'm certainly younger than the majority of high school teachers so you can imagine the problems they'll encounter grading these papers accurately.
Note: I am an American high school student.
The poster knows what he's talking about, his people butchered the English language a long time ago.
Gentoo more so.
While I agree that you learn many things playing with Gentoo, I don't think the skillset necessarily translates to other distributions... which was kinda my point. Besides if you think compiler optimizations (often redundant) and learning to build things from source (always useful) are worthwhile things to learn, people would be better off reading/building LFS than just running automated Gentoo scripts.
What does Slackware offer the newbie Linux user that something like Ubuntu doesn't?
A learning experience that will stand you in good stead throughout many distributions.
And before anyone brings up abortion clinic bombers, you want to know why it isn't a problem? Because there are a lot of Christians like me who wouldn't hesitate to shoot those violent fucks if we caught them in the act. Why? Our religion teaches that preserving life is a duty of all Jews and Christians.
I don't even know where to start... do you religious people actually listen to what you say?
While I admire your perspicacity and crazed ranting, I'm forced to take exception to one of your claims.
Now, INSFBCL (I'm Not Some Fancy Big City Lawyer), but you don't have to be teh inventor of the intarweb to know that that much heat escaping into the atmosphere is at least quintupling the effects of Global Warning every year.
There have been numerous studies (and at least one graph) that prove that global warming is solely due to the decline of pirates since the 1800's. You've obviously fallen victim to the scurillous propaganda spread by those devil-worshipping heathens from the SubGenius cult.
I look forward to your retraction.
I can read a graphic description of horrible bestiality gang bang child rape and decapitation with a chain saw without having to show ID.
This post useless without ISBN.
I'm a Linux junkie and have been for the last 9 years or so, I hate Windows enough that I'd qualify as a Slashdot submitter. That being said, I think if I was forced into a situation where I was on a box that was permanently offline I'd be running Windows.
I have no idea what your primary uses of a PC are, myself I love to dabble in various tech areas. Learn a new scripting language, maybe try my hand at 3d modelling, play around with CMS next week, etc. Linux tends to be a very dry OS when you lose internet, you can't play games (not many great ones at least) and there's only so long you can use man/info pages as your primary source of system information before you shoot yourself. Add to that the fact that, as this thread discusses, Linux is generally ill-suited for out-of-the-box multimedia.
If I was determined to use offline Linux, I'd look into remastering a PCLinuxOS MiniMe release. There's instructions on the wiki and a lot of discussion about it on the forums.
Note: I run PCL but despite mentioning it twice this discussion, I'm not affiliated with it in any way (nor have I donated yet... sorry texstar).
* http://www.pclinuxos.com/You presume that widespread adoption is a goal of all Linux users. Personally I love being able to choose the distro that's right for me at any given time. If I have to give that up for the sake of the unwashed masses inability to make an informed decision, I'll pass.
I started on Slackware, moved to Mandrake, jumped between random distros for a while, back to Slackware, built LFS systems for a year or two and I'm now happily ensconced in PCLinuxOS.
You're also ignoring the fact that we live in a consumer-driven society, people are used to a multitude of choices for any single item. How many brands of TVs, computers, dvd players, washing machines and cars are there? Certain Linux 'brands' will rise to the top and be increasingly picked up by mainstream users, others will languish in geek obscurity. Sounds good to me.
At the end of the article, she says she's cancelling her AOL account as a result.
Correction, she's going to try to cancel her AOL account.
True but we're talking about open-source though, which for quite a lot of people (myself included) is a hobby and not a career. I code, script, eat/breathe/sleep linux and bore my mates with the occassional burst of anti-ms rhetoric (too much slashdot) yet I've got zero experience in infotech and my only university qualification is in ancient history.
While I've never read any studies on it, I'd guess I'm far from alone. I refuse to cook when I get home, I'm guessing a lot of IT people don't want to code after work either.
Hasn't anyone ever thought that these two viewpoints might be related? That maybe the reason more women don't go into tech is cultural - not in the "women are more interested in nail polish than hard drives"-sort of way, but in the sense that they sick and tired of dealing with all the "oohh, titties!" comments that we men think is good natured humor, but gets old with women?
While I think it's an interesting comment, my own experience doesn't quite mesh. I'm a geek by inclination and habit but a chef by trade. Hospitality is a breeding ground for the worst kind of sexism (which, in truth, I'm very very guilty of).. the comments we routinely throw at our waitresses would make the average geek blush in shame. We've never had a shortage of willing workers, nor do I recall a single person quitting over our harassment.
By contrast, in every tech project I've been involved with the majority of guys have been over-sensitive nearly to the point of emasculation. My own behaviour is much improved, due to the simple fact that you're dealing with women whose opinions and intellect you can respect. It probably also helps that it's harder to objectify someone you'll, most likely, never see.
I absolutely worshipped Space A&B when I was a teenager, thought it was the best (albeit the shortest-lived) sci-fi show around. Recently I leeched a few of the episodes and found it dated, with simplistic themes and wooden acting. Characters I cared about in my youth now seem banal.
As others have posted, it's probably a reflection on some of the truly brilliant sci-fi we've had in the last few years (my two cents: Farscape, Firefly, SG, BSG).
They might care more if people like me didn't keep doing a free clean of their machine to remove all the muck they have downloaded every few months.
Which would be why the 4 non-geeks sharehousing with me are all running firefox, also why my mum and most of my computer-illiterate friends are running firefox. I'm the one who'll have to fix their windows install (despite my abhorrence for that OS) so they get told what browser to run (or fix it themselves). Remove the IE quickstart icon and leave firefox in it's place, most people adapt fairly quickly.
Of course it's possible that you're a nicer person than me.
Actually I feel a lot better about leeching all those O'Reilly e-books.
Dictatorships almost invariably start by some powerful ruler using some strikingly frightening event to declare that "special rules" must be enacted to fight whomever did the deed, and planting enough fear in people's minds so that they accept making the tradeoffs.
Not to worry yanks, I'm packaging a shipment of vaudeville masks as we speak.
Such as spending 3k for Graphics design computers for use as word processors.
Good to see your university is getting ready for Vista.