the parent comment which was a load of nationalistic 'commie' squealing crap got a 5 but the above comment which was informative and didn't resort to idiotic namecalling got a 1.
When you mentioned backlash I thought more of religious zealots, not tree huggers. If you look at (recent) history, far more senseless violence has been done in the name of religion than the environment.
It'll be interesting (and vexing) to see how the bible thumpers will try to explain away evolutionary relationships which new technology will make clearer.
I'm surprised that we aren't hearing more outcries against genetic research as some kind of blasphemy. But I guess a California college town isn't exactly the right arena.
or other plant community. I can take a joke, but just in case somebody out there actually believes what you said, forests, etc. don't just sequester carbon, but remember that they produce oxygen (ah sweet oxygen !) as well as cycle water through absorption and transpiration.
Also, reusing/not using things like plastic bags hypothetically reduces production of new bags (highly pollutive), but I don't think that actually happens.
"Ignore or treat with disdain someone's opinions because of poor spelling."
"Ignore or treat with disdain someone's opinions because of broken, total inability to speak English, or speaking with a heavy accent."
Okay this is an AC, but this crappy erroneous analogy plus malapropism is just annoying. There is a GULF of "difference" between people who were born and raised in an English speaking country, with ample resources, and who are actually ENROLLED in institutions of higher learning with supposed standards, vs. people who grew up speaking a language other than English and who have been able to master some fluency of a fairly complicated language (English has all kinds of weird rules, etc.) in a few years.
And do you know what racism is ? You might want to consult a dictionary. Perhaps the word you were groping for was bigotry or prejudice, neither of which apply here since I expect college students to have a modicum of orthographic/grammar skills.
Thank you for showing us all exactly where you stand in the battle to end racism and give equal opportunity to all. Blatant racial discrimination is going on here and all you have to say is "boo hoo". It makes your claims of persecution for the color of your skin ring a little hollow, does it not?
P.S. Fuck you. White or yellow, you're still an asshole.
By "blatant racial discrimination" are you referring to the MS plaintiffs, the original troll who's claiming that victims of discrimination actually like it/can't live without it, or *koff* the presumably white students complaining about being outcompeted by asians ? And there must be something wrong with your display (or cognitive functions) if you think all I said was "boohoo" because there was clearly more (in this as well as other threads).
So, me having little sympathy for white students who complain about being fairly outcompeted by asian students who probably had similar levels of opportunity/resources, yet in the same breath condemn a system which (though imperfectly) attempts to give some advantage to other minority students who had fewer opportunities/resources discredits any claims I have of experiencing bigotry...right.
And if voicing a dissenting opinion about a paranoid racist makes me an asshole, then so be it.
No. It wont. The 'yellow tide' is going to merely shift the location of the white college kids. The white students who legitimately deserve scholarships and acceptance to the middle class, state universities (we'll use UC's here, since that was the base school mentioned in the thread, being UCLA, UC Berkeley, UC Irvine), will be denied the scholarships or rejected altogether, and forced to go to lesser schools
Do you even know what disenfranchisement is ? I may be stupid, but you're even more so. You yourself used the word 'deserve.' So are you implying that the asian students who hypothetically will be nudging their caucasian peers out of the running with presumably better marks and more extracurricular activities don't 'deserve' to go to the higher tier schools ?
Meanwhile, the truly intelligent white college students will still be attending the schools that any truly intelligent students can get into, the private institutions that admit solely on academic achievements, not on race.
Is this a joke ? Do you honestly believe that legacy schools like Yale and Harvard don't favor the progeny of alums or less academically qualified athletes ? And you completely ignore the pocket book factor which trims the pool of applicants quite a bit.
These, if they exist, and I've yet to hear of a school that actually used a system like this, are far less numerous than the schools still practicing de facto affirmative action.
True, the official race caps ended with the 80s, but if you're so ready to believe discrimination (via relictual AA) works against you, why do you find it so hard to believe it works the other (original) way too ? I'm not saying I agree with affirmitive action. Like others, I believe it's the wrong bandaid for too complex a problem, but to claim asians (or other minorities for that matter) unfairly benefit from such a system is ludicrous. Nationwide they _are_ a minority, and I doubt you can complain about them not being academically qualified. Also, financial aid is based on _need_. Most caucasians applying for college tend to be more well off than their non-caucasian peers. Blame not being dirt poor for your loan woes, I didn't get squat either.
I know better than most what its like to be discriminated based on the color of one's skin, and I'd bet that you, despite your ramblings, have never been truly discriminated against. When was the last time you got your ass kicked in a parking lot for 'parking in the wrong spot' ?
Well, people don't generally beat up girls in predominantly white (I was 1 of about 5 non-whites in my class from K-12), upper-middle class (snotty spoiled rich kid) schools...but for you to assume I've "never been truly discriminated against" is just laughable. Sorry, but I find it hard to be sympathetic with someone whose group is still in power complaining about losing power. I'm not saying you can't experience racism/bigotry because you're white, anyone can which universally sucks. But don't expect much sympathy if you declare that you agree with someone who says people who have to cope with being hated like to perpetuate being hated. Since you've experienced discrimination yourself, would _you_ want to continue being discriminated against just to get a few crumbs of financial aid, or would you try to go for the whole pie and try to level the playing field for a better standard of living overall ?
And what exactly is it that freaks you out so much about being one of two white people in a store ? Welcome to the life of most non-white people in America.
I find it ironic that some of the presumably caucasian posters here complain about non-whites being paranoid about racism, yet when they find themselves in the same situation suddenly it's an earth-shattering occurence.
P.S. Anonymous cowards don't 'deserve' responses. There are quite a few nice pastures in the Central Valley if you want to be an anonymous sheep.
After taking all those women's studies courses I can't believe I left that one out. White women do benefit the most from affirmative action programs (whether it be because it's easiest for them to get their collective feet in the door or b/c of some other reason).
Again, I guess those white college kids really do need the extra funding since they can't type/spell/follow standard rules of grammar despite being so qualified and smart...nor do they realize that posting as an anonymous coward does not reveal one's email address.
Induhviduals. Individuals can be racist. "Isolated incidents will happen," but if it's, say, the HR head who hires likeminded underlings then the whole hiring process is affected. You can call me paranoid, but implausible, no.
Assuming you're white, I guess you really do need that money since your spelling/typing is atrocious. Oh no ! The yellow tide is going to disenfranchise white college kids, boohoo. I guess you don't know about the quotas/caps at some schools which disallow entrance of more hordes of asians because the schools gotta give those poor white kids (TM) a fighting chance.
You really have no idea how it feels to be hated/fear persecution simply for the color of your skin do you, because if you did you'd never write the pap you did.
Uh...I didn't see it specified in the article what percentage of the people filing the suit were "low level types." (head of a unit sounds high enough to me.)
Either way, there's no analysis of the available pool of workers vs. workers hired so I don't know how much of a case they've got.
The thing that bothers me the most about the apathetic, lazy BS-artists who complain about the American political system, is
that they forget that this country was not created by guns. Almost every other country on Earth was created by violence...
Yeah, I guess most of the Native Americans were killed by small pox and stuff. Plus they're not really human so it's not like they really count.(sarcasm)
What will really make me puke is seeing another "Free Tibet" sticker on some idiot's car or bike. Notice how nobody says anything about 'freeing' America and giving it back to its many Nations.
My parents got our beta in the early 80s so it had a 'sleek, modern design.' It was the same size as a VHS and the slot where you popped in the tape appeared to be the same as a VHS (rectangular slot with a little flap that hinges into the machine). It lived through 3 rambunctious kids (starting at ~7 years old) and still works fine today. In the same span of time I think we went through 2 or 3 VHSs (mid-grade Panasonics and the like). We also have a beta video camera:) and a fine collection of John Hughes flicks which were picked up for practically nothing.
But getting back to the point, quality of the machine means nothing compared to the modules the machine plays. I too followed Square, and I'll stick with Sony as long as Square does. And anyone who's played console games knows, say, playing Final Fantasy on a PC just isn't the same (some say it's better, I say pbbbt ! there's a reason why they sell console style controllers for PCs). I guess it's the same reason why I still haven't picked up FF Anthology, I don't want to play FF6(3) on a playstation when I've still got my SNES.
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the parent comment which was a load of nationalistic 'commie' squealing crap got a 5 but the above comment which was informative and didn't resort to idiotic namecalling got a 1.
When you mentioned backlash I thought more of religious zealots, not tree huggers. If you look at (recent) history, far more senseless violence has been done in the name of religion than the environment.
It'll be interesting (and vexing) to see how the bible thumpers will try to explain away evolutionary relationships which new technology will make clearer.
I'm surprised that we aren't hearing more outcries against genetic research as some kind of blasphemy. But I guess a California college town isn't exactly the right arena.
or other plant community. I can take a joke, but just in case somebody out there actually believes what you said, forests, etc. don't just sequester carbon, but remember that they produce oxygen (ah sweet oxygen !) as well as cycle water through absorption and transpiration.
Also, reusing/not using things like plastic bags hypothetically reduces production of new bags (highly pollutive), but I don't think that actually happens.
Okay this is an AC, but this crappy erroneous analogy plus malapropism is just annoying. There is a GULF of "difference" between people who were born and raised in an English speaking country, with ample resources, and who are actually ENROLLED in institutions of higher learning with supposed standards, vs. people who grew up speaking a language other than English and who have been able to master some fluency of a fairly complicated language (English has all kinds of weird rules, etc.) in a few years.
And do you know what racism is ? You might want to consult a dictionary. Perhaps the word you were groping for was bigotry or prejudice, neither of which apply here since I expect college students to have a modicum of orthographic/grammar skills.
By "blatant racial discrimination" are you referring to the MS plaintiffs, the original troll who's claiming that victims of discrimination actually like it/can't live without it, or *koff* the presumably white students complaining about being outcompeted by asians ? And there must be something wrong with your display (or cognitive functions) if you think all I said was "boohoo" because there was clearly more (in this as well as other threads).
So, me having little sympathy for white students who complain about being fairly outcompeted by asian students who probably had similar levels of opportunity/resources, yet in the same breath condemn a system which (though imperfectly) attempts to give some advantage to other minority students who had fewer opportunities/resources discredits any claims I have of experiencing bigotry...right.
And if voicing a dissenting opinion about a paranoid racist makes me an asshole, then so be it.
Do you even know what disenfranchisement is ? I may be stupid, but you're even more so. You yourself used the word 'deserve.' So are you implying that the asian students who hypothetically will be nudging their caucasian peers out of the running with presumably better marks and more extracurricular activities don't 'deserve' to go to the higher tier schools ?
Is this a joke ? Do you honestly believe that legacy schools like Yale and Harvard don't favor the progeny of alums or less academically qualified athletes ? And you completely ignore the pocket book factor which trims the pool of applicants quite a bit.
True, the official race caps ended with the 80s, but if you're so ready to believe discrimination (via relictual AA) works against you, why do you find it so hard to believe it works the other (original) way too ? I'm not saying I agree with affirmitive action. Like others, I believe it's the wrong bandaid for too complex a problem, but to claim asians (or other minorities for that matter) unfairly benefit from such a system is ludicrous. Nationwide they _are_ a minority, and I doubt you can complain about them not being academically qualified. Also, financial aid is based on _need_. Most caucasians applying for college tend to be more well off than their non-caucasian peers. Blame not being dirt poor for your loan woes, I didn't get squat either.
Well, people don't generally beat up girls in predominantly white (I was 1 of about 5 non-whites in my class from K-12), upper-middle class (snotty spoiled rich kid) schools...but for you to assume I've "never been truly discriminated against" is just laughable. Sorry, but I find it hard to be sympathetic with someone whose group is still in power complaining about losing power. I'm not saying you can't experience racism/bigotry because you're white, anyone can which universally sucks. But don't expect much sympathy if you declare that you agree with someone who says people who have to cope with being hated like to perpetuate being hated. Since you've experienced discrimination yourself, would _you_ want to continue being discriminated against just to get a few crumbs of financial aid, or would you try to go for the whole pie and try to level the playing field for a better standard of living overall ?
And what exactly is it that freaks you out so much about being one of two white people in a store ? Welcome to the life of most non-white people in America.
I find it ironic that some of the presumably caucasian posters here complain about non-whites being paranoid about racism, yet when they find themselves in the same situation suddenly it's an earth-shattering occurence.
P.S. Anonymous cowards don't 'deserve' responses. There are quite a few nice pastures in the Central Valley if you want to be an anonymous sheep.
After taking all those women's studies courses I can't believe I left that one out. White women do benefit the most from affirmative action programs (whether it be because it's easiest for them to get their collective feet in the door or b/c of some other reason).
Again, I guess those white college kids really do need the extra funding since they can't type/spell/follow standard rules of grammar despite being so qualified and smart...nor do they realize that posting as an anonymous coward does not reveal one's email address.
Induhviduals. Individuals can be racist. "Isolated incidents will happen," but if it's, say, the HR head who hires likeminded underlings then the whole hiring process is affected. You can call me paranoid, but implausible, no.
Assuming you're white, I guess you really do need that money since your spelling/typing is atrocious. Oh no ! The yellow tide is going to disenfranchise white college kids, boohoo. I guess you don't know about the quotas/caps at some schools which disallow entrance of more hordes of asians because the schools gotta give those poor white kids (TM) a fighting chance.
You really have no idea how it feels to be hated/fear persecution simply for the color of your skin do you, because if you did you'd never write the pap you did.
This is a joke, right ? Just pokin' fun at some stereotypes, right ? How was this not moderated as flamebait ?
I think he was referring more to the treatment of people and not how many are hired.
Uh...I didn't see it specified in the article what percentage of the people filing the suit were "low level types." (head of a unit sounds high enough to me.)
Either way, there's no analysis of the available pool of workers vs. workers hired so I don't know how much of a case they've got.
Yeah, I guess most of the Native Americans were killed by small pox and stuff. Plus they're not really human so it's not like they really count.(sarcasm)
What will really make me puke is seeing another "Free Tibet" sticker on some idiot's car or bike. Notice how nobody says anything about 'freeing' America and giving it back to its many Nations.
Ridley == poor man's Keanu Reeves/Juxor
Empress Savina == poor man's Natalie Portman,
Snails == Jar Jar Binks
But I'll still probably go see it if for no other reason than to compare it to Record of Lodoss War. Much more excited about LoTR.
My parents got our beta in the early 80s so it had a 'sleek, modern design.' It was the same size as a VHS and the slot where you popped in the tape appeared to be the same as a VHS (rectangular slot with a little flap that hinges into the machine). It lived through 3 rambunctious kids (starting at ~7 years old) and still works fine today. In the same span of time I think we went through 2 or 3 VHSs (mid-grade Panasonics and the like). We also have a beta video camera :) and a fine collection of John Hughes flicks which were picked up for practically nothing.
But getting back to the point, quality of the machine means nothing compared to the modules the machine plays. I too followed Square, and I'll stick with Sony as long as Square does. And anyone who's played console games knows, say, playing Final Fantasy on a PC just isn't the same (some say it's better, I say pbbbt ! there's a reason why they sell console style controllers for PCs). I guess it's the same reason why I still haven't picked up FF Anthology, I don't want to play FF6(3) on a playstation when I've still got my SNES.