Even if you could buy an unlocked iPhone for example, most of its features are only going to work with AT&T.
Precisely one of its features, Visual Voicemail, will only work with AT&T. The rest are open.
Given that VV is not as amazingly revolutionary as people seem to believe (from a technical perspective), and did not require the "fundamental reengineering" of AT&T's network, I can see it being reverse engineered easily enough. It is only AAC encoded audiofiles delivered by data bearer to the phone, with metadata for caller information.
T-Mobile wouldn't sell me data services because I had an unlocked phone, and a friend of mine had the same problem with Verizon.
Not seven months ago did I arrive in the US, with my SE K800i phone, unlocked, from Australia. I opened a new account with T-Mobile, SIM only, postpaid, and at that point of subscription I asked for the "Total Internet" addon. Not an eyelid batted.
They don't propogate anything to do with the code.
If I give you a piece of paper that says "Get X here", I have not propagated X. Let's be clear, the GPL cannot restrict your ability to inform / disclose / encourage a certain thing. The voucher is not the product. That it could be redeemed for the product does not make it so, either. If your brother tells you of the voucher, and you get it, by your logic, he has "enabled propagation". This is laughable.
Doesn't even sound remotely like that. They're not propagating or conveying anything but vouchers. The entirety of the transaction happens via Novell. Note the second sentence, if mere interaction with a user through a computer network, with no transfer of a copy, is not conveying, why would mere interaction with a user through some other means, with no transfer of a copy, be?
Actually, she was comparing Microsoft lawyers with Eben Moglen, not herself. Because he is the GPL specialist who has outlawyered Microsoft, it seems.
What, because, uhh, PJ, a non-legally qualified person, has decided he has, by virtue of her selective soundbiting? Scroll around this thread for many comprehensive examples of how she has twisted commonly and legally accepted definitions of concepts and phrasing.
Does Groklaw actually think that Microsofts Army of Layers knows less than they do about law or something?
That's exactly what they think:
One can't help but wonder how well Microsoft understands the GPL even now. They have brilliant lawyers, no doubt about it, but they are not GPL specialists, and law is a profession of specialization, as you have just witnessed.
I know PJ is a sacred horse around here, and all that, and am prepared to be modded accordingly, but geez, the ego:
One can't help but wonder how well Microsoft understands the GPL even now. They have brilliant lawyers, no doubt about it, but they are not GPL specialists, and law is a profession of specialization, as you have just witnessed.
"Marvel, marvel at my adroit dissection! Pay no heed to the fact that my dissection is nothing more than occasionally witty, subjective hypothesizing by someone without a law degree, enjoy the fact that I'm ragging on Microsoft!"
Let's have a look at this, then: Sony LS series. Wow, give the iMac a fucking medal. Guess what, it's also LESS than two inches thick, one of the "OMG!WOW!" features of the summary/article.
"Ew, Vista." "But it doesn't run OS X." "Ew, Sony."
Bleh. Just realize that your iMac isn't as utterly mindblowing and revolutionary as you believe it to be.
How is informing the world that person X is an undercover operative for your government (and that their "employer" is a CIA front, also outing each and every operative utilizing that front) not close to a textbook definition of "giving Aid to the Enemy"?
Definitely. In my experience, a large part of the content on YouTube does a very good job at giving me the shits...
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There is a flipside - HP's site also has "driver only" downloads. Which are fully featured printing-wise (everything is just in the printer properties/prefs dialog, not some horrid app), and scanners get WIA drivers, which is all most image editing software will need.
Me, I have a PhotoSmart C6180. Network port (also supports Wireless and BT). Can even scan via the network - connect to the IP address in the browser and there's a scanner utility, fully featured - and even works well in Firefox!
So it's not all bad. But those horrible 600mb+ "drivers" are laughable.
A day or so until the announcement. Try reading before you flame.
So they'd sit on the announcement for a couple of days? For what possible reason? The iPhone is very well hyped and a big subject in the mainstream media. If they'd already sold a million units (or near, whatever), they'd know well in advance, and that press release would be out that moment, if not before, embargoed til the estimated time. They're not going to hit that mark and then sit on that release for any time at all, there's no sense in doing so.
But you said they'd already sold a million units. But now you're saying it's "a day or so". And before, it was "within a week". Keep going, you'll cover every possibility.
Reuters had estimated slightly shy of 200,000 units as of Sunday. Now, of course, you've got the connections inside Apple. They're a news agency making estimates, but I'm sure they have their contacts too, if not at Apple, with AT&T.
So, we'll see.
But if they've sold a million units - then I'll say I'm wrong.
Because you're still not actually providing evidence for your claims, you're just saying "You'll see".
(Now, getting a decent signal from inside my townhouse... heh.)
Wow. Fantastic. "Amazing UI! I just can't get or make calls INSIDE MY HOME!" You might want to explore your priorities when it comes to a phone's feature set as it pertains to you.
By "thud", do you mean the sound of the most successful consumer electronics product launch of all time? The iPhone's already set that record, even if they never sold another unit.
You, jcr, are fantastic at making up the most fantastic statements with utterly zero evidence to support your point. You admitted yourself you have NO IDEA how many units have been sold ("they've sold a million units already. or they will have in a week." huh?!?), but you've decided they've set a record for the most product sold.
Wow. If you weren't busy telling everyone that you work(ed) for Apple, it wouldn't be at all hard to guess.
Most definitely:) Is also why I made a remark about professional equipment, not photographer...:)
On the other end of things, I know of people who have painted the white barrel black for just that reason. I confess, for me, it's a little bit of a status symbol, nonetheless.
I know at the Grand Prix in Melbourne, they had at least (regardless of the validity thereof) taught their security guards to be able to look at SLRs and their policy was to disallow lenses beyond 200mm.
I also know that with the 350D I use, I make a habit of removing the battery grip, if I think it might be an issue... reduce the size of the body, looks less professional.
Depends. In some situations, yes, in some, no. By air, you will - border control in any country I've been to will require a passport to let you get to the boarding gates. And by some country's laws, whilst you will have left a country, you may not have entered it until passing immigration control at port of entry. Technicality, pedantry, absolutely - and doesn't invalidate your point, but the language most often used is "refused entry" - ergo, at least in the eyes of the country you arrived in, you're deemed not to have entered the country at all.
Where it gets hellish is if you've managed to leave without a passport - you'll be turned around, but might not be allowed entry at the other end. That's when a diplomatic mess starts.
As an aside I was in the US 6 years ago on a Visa Waiver Program entry (I'm now a permanent resident). Your I-94 (entry form) is meant to be collected upon departure. Mine wasn't, when I made a side trip to Europe. I had flown from Australia, and boarded a plane from St Louis to Paris. At that time (though it's probably/much/ the same now), I was able to enter Paris without showing my passport, let alone it being stamped. I traveled to Spain by train, back to Paris by train, and boarded a flight back to St Louis, where my trouble started.
"Could you step aside?"... "According to your passport, there is no record of you departing the US (the intact I-94). I've been through your passport, and there are no entry stamps from any other country. And yet, you've just stepped off of a non stop international flight from Europe. Please, do explain."
And though the explanation was accepted, (and I appreciate their predicament in this situation, it was quite a logical determination to give me a deeper grilling), I spent about an hour answering questions like "Where did you stay? What kind of hotel is that? Who did you see? Last time you were in the US, why was that? Do you hold other passports? (I was born in the UK), so on and so forth. And then my passport was stamped, not "Admitted to US", but "Paroled to US", hand written, initialled and stamped, which of course raised questions any time any other immigration official saw this.
I find it amusing how many people are commenting on this story without reading anything but the/. headline
You might do better noting that I stated absolutely nothing about the clarifications in the law in the headline, summary or article, and that the entirety of my response was purely in response to your comparison of "being harassed for taking a picture" versus the perils of "guerilla commercial filmmaking".
You are starting to remind me of a friend in middle school whom you could tell gullible was written on the ceiling and he would look up, even when we were outside.
Your comparison, amusing as it is, would make more sense if this wasn't (a) my first post on the matter, and (b) as above, was actually influenced by my opinion on the subject in question (or lack thereof, as expressed).
It's even more of an issue as the price of digital SLRs... continues to drop into the prosumer's budget.
To a degree. Without sounding elitist, what makes a professional/camera/ (as opposed to photographer) is not the body, but the lens. And lens prices rarely come down. Advances in miniaturization, CCD/CMOS technology, higher capacity CF/SD cards are all things that have astronomical research budgets. Lenses are glass, and a bit of electronics. A lot of glass, finely ground. Canon's L series, the one I'm most familiar (with the 'trademark' white barrel at longer lengths) typically consist of almost 20 sheets of ultra low dispersion glass, and the cost of that is pretty static. Example, the 400mm f/2.8 L IS USM lens came out in 1999, at the street price of $7,000+ (RRP of nearly $11,000). EIGHT YEARS later, you'll still be extremely lucky if you pay under $6,500 for a new one. The price just doesn't come down - even when a new model supersedes, you'll probably only get another ten per cent knocked off.
Even more "everyday", walkabout lenses will set you back. I bought the cheapest body at the time (the EOS 350D) for $670, and that was pretty much the cheapest part - several L lenses: 50mm f/1.4 (not L, and the cheapest at $320), 17-40mm f/4 ($700), 24-105mm f/4 IS ($1,200), and a 70-200mm f/2.8 IS ($1,650) - the glass will stay the same, and I'll upgrade the body later (my wife is also really rather glad that I'm moving into wedding photography and recouping some of the costs). Cheap kit lenses are fine. But they're not the same. And that's not a la the "monster cable" argument, it's just a far higher build quality, metal bodies, not plastic, weather proofing, finer ground glass, better glass, use of 'diffractive optics' (not glass, but grown crystals).
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Precisely one of its features, Visual Voicemail, will only work with AT&T. The rest are open.
Given that VV is not as amazingly revolutionary as people seem to believe (from a technical perspective), and did not require the "fundamental reengineering" of AT&T's network, I can see it being reverse engineered easily enough. It is only AAC encoded audiofiles delivered by data bearer to the phone, with metadata for caller information.
Not seven months ago did I arrive in the US, with my SE K800i phone, unlocked, from Australia. I opened a new account with T-Mobile, SIM only, postpaid, and at that point of subscription I asked for the "Total Internet" addon. Not an eyelid batted.
Darkroom? URL? Searching for Darkroom and photography app leads to a rather large volume of results, unsurprisingly. ;)
If I give you a piece of paper that says "Get X here", I have not propagated X. Let's be clear, the GPL cannot restrict your ability to inform / disclose / encourage a certain thing. The voucher is not the product. That it could be redeemed for the product does not make it so, either. If your brother tells you of the voucher, and you get it, by your logic, he has "enabled propagation". This is laughable.
Doesn't even sound remotely like that. They're not propagating or conveying anything but vouchers. The entirety of the transaction happens via Novell. Note the second sentence, if mere interaction with a user through a computer network, with no transfer of a copy, is not conveying, why would mere interaction with a user through some other means, with no transfer of a copy, be?
What, because, uhh, PJ, a non-legally qualified person, has decided he has, by virtue of her selective soundbiting? Scroll around this thread for many comprehensive examples of how she has twisted commonly and legally accepted definitions of concepts and phrasing.
That's exactly what they think:
"Marvel, marvel at my adroit dissection! Pay no heed to the fact that my dissection is nothing more than occasionally witty, subjective hypothesizing by someone without a law degree, enjoy the fact that I'm ragging on Microsoft!"
Bah.
No, it's not: http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet /ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&lang Id=-1&productId=8198552921665089229.
"Ew, Vista." "But it doesn't run OS X." "Ew, Sony."
Bleh. Just realize that your iMac isn't as utterly mindblowing and revolutionary as you believe it to be.
How is informing the world that person X is an undercover operative for your government (and that their "employer" is a CIA front, also outing each and every operative utilizing that front) not close to a textbook definition of "giving Aid to the Enemy"?
All carriers count multipart SMS as multiple billing units, as multiple SMSes are sent.
Definitely. In my experience, a large part of the content on YouTube does a very good job at giving me the shits...
Me, I have a PhotoSmart C6180. Network port (also supports Wireless and BT). Can even scan via the network - connect to the IP address in the browser and there's a scanner utility, fully featured - and even works well in Firefox!
So it's not all bad. But those horrible 600mb+ "drivers" are laughable.
So they'd sit on the announcement for a couple of days? For what possible reason? The iPhone is very well hyped and a big subject in the mainstream media. If they'd already sold a million units (or near, whatever), they'd know well in advance, and that press release would be out that moment, if not before, embargoed til the estimated time. They're not going to hit that mark and then sit on that release for any time at all, there's no sense in doing so.
Reuters had estimated slightly shy of 200,000 units as of Sunday. Now, of course, you've got the connections inside Apple. They're a news agency making estimates, but I'm sure they have their contacts too, if not at Apple, with AT&T.
So, we'll see.
But if they've sold a million units - then I'll say I'm wrong.
Because you're still not actually providing evidence for your claims, you're just saying "You'll see".
Wow. Fantastic. "Amazing UI! I just can't get or make calls INSIDE MY HOME!" You might want to explore your priorities when it comes to a phone's feature set as it pertains to you.
You, jcr, are fantastic at making up the most fantastic statements with utterly zero evidence to support your point. You admitted yourself you have NO IDEA how many units have been sold ("they've sold a million units already. or they will have in a week." huh?!?), but you've decided they've set a record for the most product sold.
Wow. If you weren't busy telling everyone that you work(ed) for Apple, it wouldn't be at all hard to guess.
You're just utterly petrified of the possibility that anything related to Apple might not have gone utterly smoothly, and desperate for a scapegoat.
Especially with the default plan of 200 text messages a month. That'd burn.
Wait. Hang on, I'm spotting the flaw here.
How does one read the manual before purchasing the product?
On the other end of things, I know of people who have painted the white barrel black for just that reason. I confess, for me, it's a little bit of a status symbol, nonetheless.
I know at the Grand Prix in Melbourne, they had at least (regardless of the validity thereof) taught their security guards to be able to look at SLRs and their policy was to disallow lenses beyond 200mm.
I also know that with the 350D I use, I make a habit of removing the battery grip, if I think it might be an issue... reduce the size of the body, looks less professional.
Where it gets hellish is if you've managed to leave without a passport - you'll be turned around, but might not be allowed entry at the other end. That's when a diplomatic mess starts.
As an aside I was in the US 6 years ago on a Visa Waiver Program entry (I'm now a permanent resident). Your I-94 (entry form) is meant to be collected upon departure. Mine wasn't, when I made a side trip to Europe. I had flown from Australia, and boarded a plane from St Louis to Paris. At that time (though it's probably /much/ the same now), I was able to enter Paris without showing my passport, let alone it being stamped. I traveled to Spain by train, back to Paris by train, and boarded a flight back to St Louis, where my trouble started.
"Could you step aside?" ... "According to your passport, there is no record of you departing the US (the intact I-94). I've been through your passport, and there are no entry stamps from any other country. And yet, you've just stepped off of a non stop international flight from Europe. Please, do explain."
And though the explanation was accepted, (and I appreciate their predicament in this situation, it was quite a logical determination to give me a deeper grilling), I spent about an hour answering questions like "Where did you stay? What kind of hotel is that? Who did you see? Last time you were in the US, why was that? Do you hold other passports? (I was born in the UK), so on and so forth. And then my passport was stamped, not "Admitted to US", but "Paroled to US", hand written, initialled and stamped, which of course raised questions any time any other immigration official saw this.
You might do better noting that I stated absolutely nothing about the clarifications in the law in the headline, summary or article, and that the entirety of my response was purely in response to your comparison of "being harassed for taking a picture" versus the perils of "guerilla commercial filmmaking".
Your comparison, amusing as it is, would make more sense if this wasn't (a) my first post on the matter, and (b) as above, was actually influenced by my opinion on the subject in question (or lack thereof, as expressed).
To a degree. Without sounding elitist, what makes a professional /camera/ (as opposed to photographer) is not the body, but the lens. And lens prices rarely come down. Advances in miniaturization, CCD/CMOS technology, higher capacity CF/SD cards are all things that have astronomical research budgets. Lenses are glass, and a bit of electronics. A lot of glass, finely ground. Canon's L series, the one I'm most familiar (with the 'trademark' white barrel at longer lengths) typically consist of almost 20 sheets of ultra low dispersion glass, and the cost of that is pretty static. Example, the 400mm f/2.8 L IS USM lens came out in 1999, at the street price of $7,000+ (RRP of nearly $11,000). EIGHT YEARS later, you'll still be extremely lucky if you pay under $6,500 for a new one. The price just doesn't come down - even when a new model supersedes, you'll probably only get another ten per cent knocked off.
Even more "everyday", walkabout lenses will set you back. I bought the cheapest body at the time (the EOS 350D) for $670, and that was pretty much the cheapest part - several L lenses: 50mm f/1.4 (not L, and the cheapest at $320), 17-40mm f/4 ($700), 24-105mm f/4 IS ($1,200), and a 70-200mm f/2.8 IS ($1,650) - the glass will stay the same, and I'll upgrade the body later (my wife is also really rather glad that I'm moving into wedding photography and recouping some of the costs). Cheap kit lenses are fine. But they're not the same. And that's not a la the "monster cable" argument, it's just a far higher build quality, metal bodies, not plastic, weather proofing, finer ground glass, better glass, use of 'diffractive optics' (not glass, but grown crystals).