Yeah but wasn't Ballmer just a jock who had Gates doing his homework for him in exchange for keeping him from getting beat up? Or did I just take Pirates of Silicon Valley way too seriously?
Sorry, misunderstood your comment. After re-reading I guess you meant kickstarters as referring to the contributors, not the site. But, my point about low risk by spreading it thin still stands. After all, this isn't being funded by tax payers, no one is forcing anyone to jump on board.
What's Kickstarter's risk? It seems to me it's our risk to take as contributors and if you can get hundreds, thousands or even tens of thousands of people to contribute than the risk is spread pretty thin. I donated, if it fails than I will certainly be disappointed, but I won't be that upset over losing a few bucks.
Fair enough, I really don't have enough information to make that statement so it was probably unfair. I think what I was remembering (not big on E-News!) is people comparing Madonna to her as if Madonna was trying to one up her and just kind of mashed the two of them into one single "thing". Mad props to Angelina if I'm that misinformed. Hell, whatever her intentions, if Madonna helped even one kid live a better life than more power to her too. My bad for using them to make my point about LeVar.
Agreed, it doesn't take much to fuck up security in an effort to make it easier. The road to hell and all that. I still cringe a little every time I have to install openssh-blacklist on Debian but in the end I think it's helpful that they are identifying the pieces that rely on specific OS and/or hardware support. By isolating these pieces for BSD they only make it easier to identify the missing bits in other OS's. Do we really need OpenSSL support for Windows 3.1? VMS? Start with the most obvious needs (Modern Windows, the Linux Kernel on various hardware architectures, the BSDs and Mac OSX (covered by the BSDs already?)) and we're 98% of the way there...
Who knows? Maybe given enough encouragement these kids will make the breakthroughs you're talking about. I don't see these two projects as being mutually exclusive...
Yeah, except this guy is not a dim wit and my Star Trek fanboy nonsense aside, go take a look at his record. LeVar Burton has been involved in encouraging kids to read and generally expand their knowledge since the 80's. He's not doing this for himself, he genuinely cares about this. He's by no means a a multi-bajillionaire from working in Hollywood but he certainly doesn't need the money (is he even getting anything out of this other than some facetime on the interwebs?).
If he can use some of his geek cache to help kids get an education outside of our broken school system than more power to him. This isn't Madonna or Angelina adopting a kid from Somali because it's suddenly fashionable to do so, this is a guy who has been passionate about kids education since he was young lending his semi-famous name to a good and worthy cause.
Really not trolling. I grew up with Reading Rainbow but I had no idea what it was until I figured out that Geordi LaForge was the Reading Rainbow guy. Like I said, not trying to be snobby or dickish about this but did you not watch Star Trek TNG? Before he was Geordi he was the Reading Rainbow Guy!
Oh, and he was in Roots too, which is probably a bigger cultural accomplishment for him than the rest, but again, Geordi LaForge!
At first glance I agree and that is essentially what they are doing. But I do believe (can't find a link to back me up but can swear I read it somewhere) that the idea is to make LibreSSL as secure and robust as possible for OpenBSD and then start porting it to other systems, with the exceptions of course being Windows 3.1, VMS, etc. This makes sense to me; start with a known good reference implementation that uses as much of the old code as possible, just heavily cleaned up and then move on to porting (reporting?:-)
And even if Theo and crew don't port it themselves I would pretty much bank on the fact that, say, someone at Debian will take the BSD code and port it to Linux - it's not as if OpenBSD will have a problem with this. My understanding is that they are pretty helpful in these situations (Theo's occasional rants aside) with regards to helping other developers port their stuff to other platforms. And if some decide to use the cleaned up OpenSSL code this article refers to and some end up with a Libre based solution that would be a good thing, as long as the API's and end products are consistent. Two FOSS solutions breeds competition and spurs cross pollination of various innovations and bug fixes.
While I applaud the efforts and support I do hope that the work of others will not be ignored. The audit is great news, but I do hope the existing and new developers will look to LibreSSL for code updates, ideas and their own audit results. If we can get a nice bidirectional and completely cooperative flow between the two projects than hopefully the final result will be a highly secured, audited product that we can all use.
Than how is OK for Novel to go after Microsoft? Wasn't that solely about anti-competitive behavior as opposed to Apple going after Sony over patents?
And my suspicion is that Amazon could care less about consumers other than their impact to their bottom line. I don't believe for a minute that once they have most/all of the publishing industry under their thumb they won't slowly but surely raise prices. Their not doing this for you or me, just themselves. We might benefit in the short term but I doubt that it will last if they succeed.
According to the summary they stopped using dead trees in 2004. A web site isn't a good medium for discussing the ever shifting nature of game platforms?
Maybe I shouldn't be mixing broadcasts vs. DVD but aren't there examples of churches, private parties, etc. being told they are infringing when offering to host Super Bowl parties or World Series showings?
The example I am thinking of is here. Is the difference that technically anyone could walk in off the street into a church and watch? Would they have been in the clear if the showed it in a private room in the church and limited invitations to the current congregation only?
I'm not disagreeing with you, I don't know enough to do so, but it seems to me based on the "dick-move" stories I've read over the years that if they* decide they* want to go after you than the legal means to do so is there...
*they - for various definitions of "they" but generally speaking content rights holders...
If the democrats are the ones currently instigating WWIII than 2016 ain't going to help. If a Republican gets elected (unless it's Ron Paul, and I'm not holding my breath for that!) than their just going to look at the previous 8 years as laying the ground work. And any democrat that gets elected is going to assume that their election is voter approval of the current administration's policies, otherwise the voters would have ousted the Dems and brought in a Rep.
In other words, in a two party system, you're damned if you do, damned if you don't...
Yeah, I've been trying to keep up. It's heavy stuff and a little over my head sometimes but never the less very interesting (and sometimes very amusing).
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Yeah but wasn't Ballmer just a jock who had Gates doing his homework for him in exchange for keeping him from getting beat up? Or did I just take Pirates of Silicon Valley way too seriously?
Sorry, misunderstood your comment. After re-reading I guess you meant kickstarters as referring to the contributors, not the site. But, my point about low risk by spreading it thin still stands. After all, this isn't being funded by tax payers, no one is forcing anyone to jump on board.
What's Kickstarter's risk? It seems to me it's our risk to take as contributors and if you can get hundreds, thousands or even tens of thousands of people to contribute than the risk is spread pretty thin. I donated, if it fails than I will certainly be disappointed, but I won't be that upset over losing a few bucks.
But don't take his word for it!
Fair enough, I really don't have enough information to make that statement so it was probably unfair. I think what I was remembering (not big on E-News!) is people comparing Madonna to her as if Madonna was trying to one up her and just kind of mashed the two of them into one single "thing". Mad props to Angelina if I'm that misinformed. Hell, whatever her intentions, if Madonna helped even one kid live a better life than more power to her too. My bad for using them to make my point about LeVar.
Agreed, it doesn't take much to fuck up security in an effort to make it easier. The road to hell and all that. I still cringe a little every time I have to install openssh-blacklist on Debian but in the end I think it's helpful that they are identifying the pieces that rely on specific OS and/or hardware support. By isolating these pieces for BSD they only make it easier to identify the missing bits in other OS's. Do we really need OpenSSL support for Windows 3.1? VMS? Start with the most obvious needs (Modern Windows, the Linux Kernel on various hardware architectures, the BSDs and Mac OSX (covered by the BSDs already?)) and we're 98% of the way there...
Who knows? Maybe given enough encouragement these kids will make the breakthroughs you're talking about. I don't see these two projects as being mutually exclusive...
Yeah, except this guy is not a dim wit and my Star Trek fanboy nonsense aside, go take a look at his record. LeVar Burton has been involved in encouraging kids to read and generally expand their knowledge since the 80's. He's not doing this for himself, he genuinely cares about this. He's by no means a a multi-bajillionaire from working in Hollywood but he certainly doesn't need the money (is he even getting anything out of this other than some facetime on the interwebs?).
If he can use some of his geek cache to help kids get an education outside of our broken school system than more power to him. This isn't Madonna or Angelina adopting a kid from Somali because it's suddenly fashionable to do so, this is a guy who has been passionate about kids education since he was young lending his semi-famous name to a good and worthy cause.
Republican much?
Really not trolling. I grew up with Reading Rainbow but I had no idea what it was until I figured out that Geordi LaForge was the Reading Rainbow guy. Like I said, not trying to be snobby or dickish about this but did you not watch Star Trek TNG? Before he was Geordi he was the Reading Rainbow Guy!
Oh, and he was in Roots too, which is probably a bigger cultural accomplishment for him than the rest, but again, Geordi LaForge!
At first glance I agree and that is essentially what they are doing. But I do believe (can't find a link to back me up but can swear I read it somewhere) that the idea is to make LibreSSL as secure and robust as possible for OpenBSD and then start porting it to other systems, with the exceptions of course being Windows 3.1, VMS, etc. This makes sense to me; start with a known good reference implementation that uses as much of the old code as possible, just heavily cleaned up and then move on to porting (reporting? :-)
And even if Theo and crew don't port it themselves I would pretty much bank on the fact that, say, someone at Debian will take the BSD code and port it to Linux - it's not as if OpenBSD will have a problem with this. My understanding is that they are pretty helpful in these situations (Theo's occasional rants aside) with regards to helping other developers port their stuff to other platforms. And if some decide to use the cleaned up OpenSSL code this article refers to and some end up with a Libre based solution that would be a good thing, as long as the API's and end products are consistent. Two FOSS solutions breeds competition and spurs cross pollination of various innovations and bug fixes.
Yes, do please contribute. And if you simply don't want to give your money to them at least go buy a CD or coffee mug. Every little bit helps!
While I applaud the efforts and support I do hope that the work of others will not be ignored. The audit is great news, but I do hope the existing and new developers will look to LibreSSL for code updates, ideas and their own audit results. If we can get a nice bidirectional and completely cooperative flow between the two projects than hopefully the final result will be a highly secured, audited product that we can all use.
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I see how you did that there...
Than how is OK for Novel to go after Microsoft? Wasn't that solely about anti-competitive behavior as opposed to Apple going after Sony over patents?
And my suspicion is that Amazon could care less about consumers other than their impact to their bottom line. I don't believe for a minute that once they have most/all of the publishing industry under their thumb they won't slowly but surely raise prices. Their not doing this for you or me, just themselves. We might benefit in the short term but I doubt that it will last if they succeed.
Hold out for the EmacsBook Pro, I hear it will have a bigger screen and the processor might, I say might, just be enough to keep up with Emacs.
Oh god, please don't tell me this is going to be the year of the Emacs Desktop?
If so I may just consider getting a job as a gardener....
Really? Even on this article you couldn't set aside politics? Give it a rest once in a while.
My sympathies to cablepokerface, however things work out I hope they do so for the best - for your sister in law and the rest of your family.
According to the summary they stopped using dead trees in 2004. A web site isn't a good medium for discussing the ever shifting nature of game platforms?
Here, I'll have a go. Groupthink
Of course they don't need to use any of those words. Everyone knows GM vehicles are doubleplusgood!
Maybe I shouldn't be mixing broadcasts vs. DVD but aren't there examples of churches, private parties, etc. being told they are infringing when offering to host Super Bowl parties or World Series showings?
The example I am thinking of is here. Is the difference that technically anyone could walk in off the street into a church and watch? Would they have been in the clear if the showed it in a private room in the church and limited invitations to the current congregation only?
I'm not disagreeing with you, I don't know enough to do so, but it seems to me based on the "dick-move" stories I've read over the years that if they* decide they* want to go after you than the legal means to do so is there...
*they - for various definitions of "they" but generally speaking content rights holders...
If the democrats are the ones currently instigating WWIII than 2016 ain't going to help. If a Republican gets elected (unless it's Ron Paul, and I'm not holding my breath for that!) than their just going to look at the previous 8 years as laying the ground work. And any democrat that gets elected is going to assume that their election is voter approval of the current administration's policies, otherwise the voters would have ousted the Dems and brought in a Rep.
In other words, in a two party system, you're damned if you do, damned if you don't...
Won't someone PLEASE think of the advertisers!
Yeah, I've been trying to keep up. It's heavy stuff and a little over my head sometimes but never the less very interesting (and sometimes very amusing).