"But installing anything other than the subset of frequently used applications that are available as slackware packages is often somewhere between annoying if./configure,make,make install works and do it yourself dentistry without anesthetic painful if it doesn't"
Installing with make is usually a breeze on slack. Every other distro I have tried seems to go out of their way to break this and make it painful. How this turns into an argument for using them instead of Slackware I dont know. That's just backwards thinking.
"There's a lot to be said for apt-get. I sometimes wish I could tolerate Ubuntu for the convenience of apt-get"
Seems to me that if they make sure those links are available and enforce truth in advertising about routing policies, every ISP would quickly see it in their commercial interest to do the rest.
You (and others) are simply missing the point here. We are talking about authority. You are talking about procedure. It's true that there is no court of appeal above the Supreme Court, which is what your point amounts to. And that may well give them some de facto power to 'interpret' the Constitution away. But that does not mean they or anyone else has actual authority to do so. There is also a clear procedure prescribed for amending the Constitution, you see, and the Supreme Court is not involved.
The interstate commerce clause has been abused mightily, for sure. It was only intended to permit the feds to step in and prevent protectionist trade wars between the various states.
Because the court system have an extremely poor record when it comes to striking down unconstitutional laws that are politically popular. Unfortunately the courts just cannot be counted on to lead on these issues. They wont be willing to stand up for justice until it becomes unnecessary for them to do so (because the politics will have swung far enough to legalise - we are very nearly there already.)
To answer your question (though I suspect you know the answer already) an amendment was required to prohibit alcohol because the constitution gives the feds no power to do such a thing. And the only reason it didnt require a constitutional amendment to outlaw cannabis and cocaine and opium is simply racism - our ancestors were willing to let the government expand its power unconstitutionally in this way after being re-assured this would only be used to outlaw drugs that "others" used. Cannabis was primarily used by chicanos, cocaine by blacks, opium by chinese immigrants.
That racism is something we are paying the price for still today.
So wait, you dont want to edit a simple config file, you prefer to wrestle with insane power-hungry GUI tools that tend to break when they are really needed, and you think this will help your chances with the opposite sex?
Bad news, buddy. Incompetence is actually not attractive.
Sounds like you should try Slackware. In my experience it's always the one that 'just works.' No idiot package-manage to fight with, no ABI breakage caused by munchkin compiler options, no big fancy system management system that you cant get to even run when you actually need it - just a nice sane system that does what it's told to do.
"Ok the desktop isn't going to die, but it is becoming more of a workstation than a personal computer."
Odd that you would say that. The whole 'desktop' fad in linux has resulted in the deprecation of lots of workstation quality software in favour of new, flashy, incompetent 'desktop' replacements. So are you predicting a reverse of that trend?
"But it was 2007 and it looked a DOS boot from the 1980s, I'm not going to pretend that was a big thing but it was representative of the attitude."
An attitude that focused on results instead of marketing?
Oh how very unprogressive of them.
You claim it's not a big thing but you also attribute your choice of Ubuntu to it! Think about that for a moment. You could have had (and still can have) a system that *works* much better, but you are hung up on looks.
While it's easy to point out that every *nix has deviated at some point or another from the *nix way, that doesnt mean it doesnt exist. Various *nixes reflect it more or less in one area or another. Inside the linux family Slackware stands out for it.
"It's not a yank. When I yank something I remove it from where it was and *move* it to a new location."
With physical items, yes. Digital items are not subject to the same restrictions however. There is no necessity to delete the text from the original location in order to yank it to the new one on a computer.
"Remind me again why schools are funded by taxes?"
Because this gives them an effective monopoly to better ensure that the children of the poor and middle class are indoctrinated in corporate-statism early and thoroughly.
First off it's not a 'paste'that is a construct from a quite different paradigm. It's a 'yank.' There is no copying and there is no pasting, it simply yanks the highlighted text into position at the mouse pointer. That's actually a pretty fundamental command that is performed often by users of all experience levels. Removing it would probably really outrage a lot of their users except that they have already driven away all the users that have a clue years ago.
You talk about not introducing unnecessary abstractions and then you propose python, ruby, and scheme?!?! Just what are you smoking?
My first computer had a built-in basic interpreter, which was cool in that you were expected to 'program' to some degree to use it, but basic was way too abstract to be fun for me. What made it fun was figuring out how to bypass it and use machine code. And what made programming so not-fun in Uni was all the high level gunk, C and Pascal were the rage at the time, boring mickey-mouse nonsense. Python, Ruby, and Scheme from what I know are the same thing only 10 times worse.
Yeah, this is nonsense, they're still pushing local searches out across the internet without so much as a by-your-leave. No one with a clue will be mollified by it. But I guess no one with a clue would be caught dead using Ubuntu either, so maybe they dont care.
Yeah I tried tmobile when I first came back. Got a prepaid sim, lost half the minutes on it trying to make calls with marginal signal (ring, ring, answer, call drop, one minute gone) and the other half expired at the end of the month. Coverage was awful, and that was in an urban area. I am sure where I live now I would never see their signal. Shame, too, because I would rather use my old GSM phone than my new smartphone any day of the week, but it's not any good with no coverage.
"Carriers must sell you an unlocked phone upon request. They are also required to allow you to BYOD. And, indeed, they all do so."
What country are you in? Because I remember that being the case in Europe, but here in the US, there is not a single provider that has coverage anywhere near me that will even talk with you about BYOD. You will sign a contract and take a subsidised phone off the list or they will not do business with you, period.
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"But installing anything other than the subset of frequently used applications that are available as slackware packages is often somewhere between annoying if ./configure,make,make install works and do it yourself dentistry without anesthetic painful if it doesn't"
Installing with make is usually a breeze on slack. Every other distro I have tried seems to go out of their way to break this and make it painful. How this turns into an argument for using them instead of Slackware I dont know. That's just backwards thinking.
"There's a lot to be said for apt-get. I sometimes wish I could tolerate Ubuntu for the convenience of apt-get"
Ever heard of slapt-get?
Seems to me that if they make sure those links are available and enforce truth in advertising about routing policies, every ISP would quickly see it in their commercial interest to do the rest.
You (and others) are simply missing the point here. We are talking about authority. You are talking about procedure. It's true that there is no court of appeal above the Supreme Court, which is what your point amounts to. And that may well give them some de facto power to 'interpret' the Constitution away. But that does not mean they or anyone else has actual authority to do so. There is also a clear procedure prescribed for amending the Constitution, you see, and the Supreme Court is not involved.
Actually you should read the memo before you spout off. It's pretty funny. Sad that it's true though.
You say that like it's a bad thing.
It will just mean that there are more existing apps that can be easily ported.
The interstate commerce clause has been abused mightily, for sure. It was only intended to permit the feds to step in and prevent protectionist trade wars between the various states.
Because the court system have an extremely poor record when it comes to striking down unconstitutional laws that are politically popular. Unfortunately the courts just cannot be counted on to lead on these issues. They wont be willing to stand up for justice until it becomes unnecessary for them to do so (because the politics will have swung far enough to legalise - we are very nearly there already.)
To answer your question (though I suspect you know the answer already) an amendment was required to prohibit alcohol because the constitution gives the feds no power to do such a thing. And the only reason it didnt require a constitutional amendment to outlaw cannabis and cocaine and opium is simply racism - our ancestors were willing to let the government expand its power unconstitutionally in this way after being re-assured this would only be used to outlaw drugs that "others" used. Cannabis was primarily used by chicanos, cocaine by blacks, opium by chinese immigrants.
That racism is something we are paying the price for still today.
So wait, you dont want to edit a simple config file, you prefer to wrestle with insane power-hungry GUI tools that tend to break when they are really needed, and you think this will help your chances with the opposite sex?
Bad news, buddy. Incompetence is actually not attractive.
You might appreciate slapt-get then. Works about the same so far as you see as a user, just avoids the breakage of dpkg.
Sounds like you should try Slackware. Linux as it was intended to be - simple, sane, and functional.
Sounds like you should try Slackware. In my experience it's always the one that 'just works.' No idiot package-manage to fight with, no ABI breakage caused by munchkin compiler options, no big fancy system management system that you cant get to even run when you actually need it - just a nice sane system that does what it's told to do.
"Ok the desktop isn't going to die, but it is becoming more of a workstation than a personal computer."
Odd that you would say that. The whole 'desktop' fad in linux has resulted in the deprecation of lots of workstation quality software in favour of new, flashy, incompetent 'desktop' replacements. So are you predicting a reverse of that trend?
"But it was 2007 and it looked a DOS boot from the 1980s, I'm not going to pretend that was a big thing but it was representative of the attitude."
An attitude that focused on results instead of marketing?
Oh how very unprogressive of them.
You claim it's not a big thing but you also attribute your choice of Ubuntu to it! Think about that for a moment. You could have had (and still can have) a system that *works* much better, but you are hung up on looks.
Maybe Ubuntu is exactly what you deserve.
While it's easy to point out that every *nix has deviated at some point or another from the *nix way, that doesnt mean it doesnt exist. Various *nixes reflect it more or less in one area or another. Inside the linux family Slackware stands out for it.
"You're proposing to give a digital operation the name of a physical action to make understanding it easier."
No, actually, it's been called that for decades. I was simply informing the previous poster of what it has, indeed, been called.
X has copy and paste operations, but this is a different operation entirely.
"It's not a yank. When I yank something I remove it from where it was and *move* it to a new location."
With physical items, yes. Digital items are not subject to the same restrictions however. There is no necessity to delete the text from the original location in order to yank it to the new one on a computer.
"Remind me again why schools are funded by taxes?"
Because this gives them an effective monopoly to better ensure that the children of the poor and middle class are indoctrinated in corporate-statism early and thoroughly.
First off it's not a 'paste'that is a construct from a quite different paradigm. It's a 'yank.' There is no copying and there is no pasting, it simply yanks the highlighted text into position at the mouse pointer. That's actually a pretty fundamental command that is performed often by users of all experience levels. Removing it would probably really outrage a lot of their users except that they have already driven away all the users that have a clue years ago.
You talk about not introducing unnecessary abstractions and then you propose python, ruby, and scheme?!?! Just what are you smoking?
My first computer had a built-in basic interpreter, which was cool in that you were expected to 'program' to some degree to use it, but basic was way too abstract to be fun for me. What made it fun was figuring out how to bypass it and use machine code. And what made programming so not-fun in Uni was all the high level gunk, C and Pascal were the rage at the time, boring mickey-mouse nonsense. Python, Ruby, and Scheme from what I know are the same thing only 10 times worse.
Yeah, this is nonsense, they're still pushing local searches out across the internet without so much as a by-your-leave. No one with a clue will be mollified by it. But I guess no one with a clue would be caught dead using Ubuntu either, so maybe they dont care.
They are one and the same. Who pays the piper, calls the tune.
By the time this is done those agreements may well be dust.
Yeah I tried tmobile when I first came back. Got a prepaid sim, lost half the minutes on it trying to make calls with marginal signal (ring, ring, answer, call drop, one minute gone) and the other half expired at the end of the month. Coverage was awful, and that was in an urban area. I am sure where I live now I would never see their signal. Shame, too, because I would rather use my old GSM phone than my new smartphone any day of the week, but it's not any good with no coverage.
"Carriers must sell you an unlocked phone upon request. They are also required to allow you to BYOD. And, indeed, they all do so."
What country are you in? Because I remember that being the case in Europe, but here in the US, there is not a single provider that has coverage anywhere near me that will even talk with you about BYOD. You will sign a contract and take a subsidised phone off the list or they will not do business with you, period.