Thank You!:) Last time I posted the same, I got flamed for it.
There is indeed a HUGE difference. In a republic, you elect folks who decide issues on your behalf. In a democracy, you vote directly on the issues. When was the last time we ever had a national referendum?
At the local (town/city) level and at the state level, you may have a democracy in some cases, but definitely not at the national level. The reason we're a Constitutional Republic is because in theory the Constitution is the supreme law of the land - only our current administration think that somehow the War Powers Act (an unconstitutional law) gives them the power to supercede or even suspend the Constitution of The united States of America at whim.
Not to mention RPM (Redhat Package Manager). yeah, Redhat has contributed absolutely nothing to the Linux community at large. *rolls eyes*
They've contributed a great deal, including working with vendors to contribute various drivers to the kernel and x, contributed patches to the kernel, and early on an easy-to-use installer (when everyone else's installer was still purely text-based). That doesn't mean I despise Redhat any less (I hate their disorganized desktop and also the fact that they cut off the desktop distribution years ago), but any reasonable person has to admit that Redhat has contributed a lot of good work to the various Linux projects and deserves gratitude and/or respect for their work.
This is not Fedora Core 5, but an incremental release?
Oh I know, let's do what makes sense and call it Fedora Core 5.1 to eliminate confusion and avoid compatibility issues down the road, and potential security holes when the sysadmin grabs the wrong Fedora Core 5.0 DVD.
Oh right, that makes too much sense.
Seriously, now, why didn't they just announce Fedora Core 5.1, or at least 5.0.1?
but. . . but. . . I can't buy a Core Duo Extreme hyperthreaded 3.8Ghz processor that needs a huge honkin' fan just to keep it from exploding. How can it possibly be better than the Pentium 4?!?! Mhz is everything! It's only a few months until Intel cranks the clock speed up to 4.2Ghz and beyond!!
Oh wait, that's Intel marketing from three years ago. Carry on then!;)
Actually I liked the mockup a lot. However now that it has been deployed, I like it less. Yes, the designer made very good use of whitespace, but check out your preferences page, or the boxes at the left, or at a poll - there is just a tad bit too much whitespace - just a tad. Remember, when each element has, say, 2px padding at the top and bottom, it's multiplied by the number of elements, which leads to lots of wasted screen estate and more scrolling -- and I'm not complaining about 1024x768 or 1280x1024 - I am running 3840x1440 right now and I still have to scroll too much vertically. Aside from that, I really like the new look a lot. There were better entries, IMHO, but this one is quite nice and retained the "slashdot feel" so I can understand why the admins chose it, but some tweaking obviously remains to be done.
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In the case of radio, don't forget payola, which is STILL going on, only in a different form which just barely skirts the law.
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Skipping commercials? Big deal. I guess I'm a thief if I go to the bathroom during a commercial break. OK MPAA, come sue me for "stealing" because I went potty during Burger King's advertising spot!:-p
I'm hoping that you don't mean to imply that Windows actually handles dual displays on a laptop gracefully... because it doesn't.
Actually its dependent on both the video chipset and video driver; Windows really isn't at fault there, even as much as I'd love to blame Microsoft, it's just not their fault. Windows has its probles but this really isn't one of them.
Why doesn't OS X have this problem? Who supplies the OS and the computer, and what is their hardware support matrix? It's quite small by comparison, and Apple doesn't rely on third parties' submitting half-baked drivers for inclusion in the OS.
sax2 is a wonderful tool, FYI. It comes with SuSE by default, but it's also released under GPL and can be installed on pretty much any distribution. Graphical configuration of X and it works quite well, except when you have certain ATI cards. (I've found it has problems when you mix Rage128 and Rage Pro cards together)
There's not a lot of "innovation" left to be done in OSes. It's not like much "innovation" (if you want to go by a strict dictionary definition) has appeared in OSes for 20 - 30 years.
That is totally untrue. When Unix hit the scene, it was advanced, but seen as only a solution for supercomputers and possibly mainframes and minicomputers. It wasn't seen as a general computing solution.
CP/M was at one point considered the be-all/end-all of computing because of its file organization capabilities and relatively portable design, leading to compatibility between a variety of brands and models.
Mac OS (1.x) was introduced and it was deemed to be God's gift to computing and what more could anyone want in a computer?
Then Atari ST popularized GEM from Digital Research, and Commodore revealed Amiga OS. They were huge leaps past MacOS, but kept a CLI so you could get DOS and CP/M like functionality and file management (and scripting!) and were considered by multimedia professionals to be the epitome of computing.
In between all of those advancements, Unix, which was by then the ultimate Server and supercomputing workhorse operating system, gained inroads movind downmarket to a level between personal computers and minicomputers, Academics quickly embraced that environment, and the Unix wars were starting. In the midst of that several Unices were introduced in the PC world but aside from small verticals (Microsoft Xenix/SCO Unix, Minix) it didn't really gain ground until BSD hit PC hardware, and Linus Torvalds decided he wanted to run Unix on his PC and started developing his own clone, and decided to share it for people to experiment with, and FSF embraced it and added their userland tools to it. Linux's rapid growth in popularity caught Linus by surprise but he kept up with maintaining the kernel and expanding its capabilities. Widespread Unix on the desktop was on the not-so-far horizon.
MacOS didn't stand still - to be sure, it had its limitations which kept it from gaining popularity in many industries, but it continued to gain capability and performance In order to keep Apple in the enterprises it had penetrated, Apple embraced a Unix variant and released their own Unix product, since MacOS didn't cut it as a server, and with the introduction of OS2 and Windows NT, needed a server product which interoperated with MacOS to prevent their market share from eroding.
Then Windows went and grew up, and became usable in those environments and made inroads in multimedia. It had its shortcomings, like MacOS did, but with cheap commodity PC hardware, cheap processor power, and rapidly advancing sound and video card technologies, an alternative to the Amiga-based Video Toaster was available for much less money. With Commodore's execs embezzling millions upon millions instead of putting resources into both R&D and marketing, Commodore was very soon to go belly-up and leave the market forever. SGI had taken the lead in high-end media production, but the time had come for the PC to start making inroads.
PC hardware was quickly gaining momentum in its advancements, and now workstation processing capability was available for PC prices, Video was still lagging behind somewhat, but BSD and Linux had become well more than capable for not only headless servers, but could now form the basis for rendering farms. competitors to SGI now popped up in the PC market. Also, with the unices' inherent security model and multiuser capability, mainframes became a defunct market, probably forever. Clustering was now cheap.
Innovation is dead? Every step of the way folks with no vision have made that claim. What's to come next? 20 years ago, aside from privileged academics and a few eccentric visionaries (Ross Perot comes to mind) and trekkies, who envisioned a very real widespread network which would make the world a very small place, where anyone who wanted could connect to this network and not only chat with friends in the next town or even the next state
30% overhead was average for debug builds of huge applications I managed builds and releases for. I can't imagine that Microsoft would have a 1000% overhead for debug builds of OS components considering they use Visual Studio for development of most of the components.
I wasn't aware that Microsoft was bundling SQL Server, Microsoft Office, a variety of development suites, full mail servers, various database front ends, multiple scripting languages, a HUGE selection of drivers (including source), a huge variety of desktop environments, a huge selection of media players, a slew of networking protocols and enterprise-capable server applications AND dropping the 10-connection limitation. Thanks for enlightening us!;)
(Hint: 8GB of SuSE or any other Linux distribution includes the capabilities of all of the above and much, much more)
I copied and pasted everything, then stripped out the advertisement text, and the wordcount is 5119 words.
You went through all that? What a f'n nerd! Oh wait, this is slashdot. Carry on, then! <disclaimerforfolkswithnosenseofhumor>(just kidding, don't take offense, etc.)</disclaimerforfolkswithnosenseofhumor>
10GB for just the operating system is just plain ridiculous. Take practically any Linux distribution, you will have a full installation of the OS, assorted userland utilities, scores of server and desktop applications (hundreds if you count them by component), and a whole slew of games and still struggle to reach 10GB. Ditto for OS/X.
Okay, so the beta as ships is compiled in debug mode, so the final release won't be 10GB; assume an average of 30% overhead for debug hooks (that's a generous figure). That would still give you 6.6 or so of disk consumption for the OS itself. Now, let's remove the extraneous files you never need - all the readme files, the install logs, and so forth - all the junk text files Microsoft leaves in %windir% - that's maybe 50MB or so, if you're very, very generous with rounding up for each file before adding them together. It's still around 6.6GB or so. Let's be more generous and call it 6GB just to give Microsoft the benefit of the doubt.
That's just ridiculous. It's clear from other, better-written reviews that Vista is much more than a simple update to Windows XP, but does the increase in functionality actually justify occuping over 6GB of disk space? Is the 6GB the result of extremely inefficient, sloppy code (which would explain Vista's minimum requirements compared to Linux+XGL or OS X's much more modest minimum requirements for similar eye candy capability), or is the entire thing written in VBscript and run through an interpreter at runtime? 6GB just seems to be a bit much, and if 10GB is closer to reality for the release mode build, it's even more absurd. They bundled in Media Center functionality - so? ATI's media center application and *nix's MythTV are far smaller than MythTV, and in the case of MythTV, does far more, without the DRM emcumberment - and highly extensible due to the source availability, if you are so inclined. They included tablet functionality? Well, I have that capability (pretty much screen rotation and handwriting recognition) with my PocketPC, in only 32MB of ROM, so that does not explain the tremendous size of the OS. Networking? OS X and Linux and BSD all include far more network stacks, drivers (Well, OS X does not include many drivers due to the limited hardware support matrix), etc. right out of the box and still takes far less space than Windows Vista.
Just what exactly is adding the bloat?
Regarding the review: Tom's "review" is not a review, but a glorified screenshot gallery - I didn't get past page 13 because I want a review and not just a bunch of screenshots spaced out over 40 pages for the purpose of generating billable ad impressions. If you want me to view the ads, give me worthwhile content.
Russia is better off going isolationlist and not joining the WTO. Look at the mess we have here in America as an example. Our politicians have an incessent need to butt their noses in everyone else's business, despite the citizen base not wanting them to do so. We (meaning our government) has no right to tell other countries how to handle their business at all. Our influence should end at the border and tariffs, unless assistance is a) explicitly requested from others and b) supported/approved by citizens.
Don't listen to the US. Show a backbone like so few other countries have and tell Duhbya to fuck off already. Don't cooperate with the current administration one iota; wait and see what the 2008 election brings. Hopefully the next administration will be far less corrupt.
Why not? Protecting the Mickey Mouse law is a high priority - much higher than, oh, say, actually capturing Osama Bin Laden, developing clean power, building modernized oil refineries, or resolving Middle East problems. Where the hell are your priorities, anyway?;)
What about parks, several cases of rape and pedophilia has been caused by connections made on such sites, are they assisting these crimes as well?
What about prisons, several cases of rape and pedophilia has been caused by connections made on such sites, are they assisting these crimes as well?
What about the oval office, several cases of rape and pedophilia has been caused by connections made on such sites, are they assisting these crimes as well?
What about the boy scouts/girl scouts/4H/Big Brothers/YMCA, several cases of rape and pedophilia has been caused by connections made on such sites, are they assisting these crimes as well?
What about the public schools, several cases of rape and pedophilia has been caused by connections made on such sites, are they assisting these crimes as well?
What about homes, several cases of rape and pedophilia has been caused by connections made on such sites, are they assisting these crimes as well?
My point?
Perverts and scumbags of the world are EVERYWHERE. There is nothing special about TPB, Myspace, or any other Internet venue which would be any different; perverts are just more visible there.
Swedish police has more leeway in Sweden then in the US because we don't have any institution to audit them.
We used to; it is called the Federal Bureau of Investigation. The charter for that agency is to investigate government corruption, especially the executive branch of government, which includes the police and military. Unfortunately the laws and charter have been utterly ignored for many years and the FBI has become part of the executive branch and is itself often caught up in corrupt dealings, including spying on citizens and searching without warrants or probable cause.
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The monowing will become the new extreme hobby. I'd do it in a heartbeat. 220mph? Damn!
More likely the public schools' lowering standards again.
America, more than just a few years ago. Personal responsability existed in this country as recently as the 1980s. :)
did another chair get thrown, and did he threaten to f'n kill spyware? Let's hear the important details now! ;)
Thank You! :) Last time I posted the same, I got flamed for it.
There is indeed a HUGE difference. In a republic, you elect folks who decide issues on your behalf. In a democracy, you vote directly on the issues. When was the last time we ever had a national referendum?
At the local (town/city) level and at the state level, you may have a democracy in some cases, but definitely not at the national level. The reason we're a Constitutional Republic is because in theory the Constitution is the supreme law of the land - only our current administration think that somehow the War Powers Act (an unconstitutional law) gives them the power to supercede or even suspend the Constitution of The united States of America at whim.
How the fuck is a funny comment a troll?
Good way to throw away mod points. Go to K-mart and buy a sense of humor, mmmKay?
Due to global warming.
(let's blame man-induced global warming for everything despite proof of extreme climate cycles over the eons)
Not to mention RPM (Redhat Package Manager). yeah, Redhat has contributed absolutely nothing to the Linux community at large. *rolls eyes*
They've contributed a great deal, including working with vendors to contribute various drivers to the kernel and x, contributed patches to the kernel, and early on an easy-to-use installer (when everyone else's installer was still purely text-based). That doesn't mean I despise Redhat any less (I hate their disorganized desktop and also the fact that they cut off the desktop distribution years ago), but any reasonable person has to admit that Redhat has contributed a lot of good work to the various Linux projects and deserves gratitude and/or respect for their work.
This is not Fedora Core 5, but an incremental release?
Oh I know, let's do what makes sense and call it Fedora Core 5.1 to eliminate confusion and avoid compatibility issues down the road, and potential security holes when the sysadmin grabs the wrong Fedora Core 5.0 DVD.
Oh right, that makes too much sense.
Seriously, now, why didn't they just announce Fedora Core 5.1, or at least 5.0.1?
but. . . but. . . I can't buy a Core Duo Extreme hyperthreaded 3.8Ghz processor that needs a huge honkin' fan just to keep it from exploding. How can it possibly be better than the Pentium 4?!?! Mhz is everything! It's only a few months until Intel cranks the clock speed up to 4.2Ghz and beyond!!
;)
Oh wait, that's Intel marketing from three years ago. Carry on then!
Actually I liked the mockup a lot. However now that it has been deployed, I like it less. Yes, the designer made very good use of whitespace, but check out your preferences page, or the boxes at the left, or at a poll - there is just a tad bit too much whitespace - just a tad. Remember, when each element has, say, 2px padding at the top and bottom, it's multiplied by the number of elements, which leads to lots of wasted screen estate and more scrolling -- and I'm not complaining about 1024x768 or 1280x1024 - I am running 3840x1440 right now and I still have to scroll too much vertically. Aside from that, I really like the new look a lot. There were better entries, IMHO, but this one is quite nice and retained the "slashdot feel" so I can understand why the admins chose it, but some tweaking obviously remains to be done.
In the case of radio, don't forget payola, which is STILL going on, only in a different form which just barely skirts the law.
Skipping commercials? Big deal. I guess I'm a thief if I go to the bathroom during a commercial break. OK MPAA, come sue me for "stealing" because I went potty during Burger King's advertising spot! :-p
Actually its dependent on both the video chipset and video driver; Windows really isn't at fault there, even as much as I'd love to blame Microsoft, it's just not their fault. Windows has its probles but this really isn't one of them.
Why doesn't OS X have this problem? Who supplies the OS and the computer, and what is their hardware support matrix? It's quite small by comparison, and Apple doesn't rely on third parties' submitting half-baked drivers for inclusion in the OS.
sax2 is a wonderful tool, FYI. It comes with SuSE by default, but it's also released under GPL and can be installed on pretty much any distribution. Graphical configuration of X and it works quite well, except when you have certain ATI cards. (I've found it has problems when you mix Rage128 and Rage Pro cards together)
That is totally untrue. When Unix hit the scene, it was advanced, but seen as only a solution for supercomputers and possibly mainframes and minicomputers. It wasn't seen as a general computing solution.
CP/M was at one point considered the be-all/end-all of computing because of its file organization capabilities and relatively portable design, leading to compatibility between a variety of brands and models.
Mac OS (1.x) was introduced and it was deemed to be God's gift to computing and what more could anyone want in a computer?
Then Atari ST popularized GEM from Digital Research, and Commodore revealed Amiga OS. They were huge leaps past MacOS, but kept a CLI so you could get DOS and CP/M like functionality and file management (and scripting!) and were considered by multimedia professionals to be the epitome of computing.
In between all of those advancements, Unix, which was by then the ultimate Server and supercomputing workhorse operating system, gained inroads movind downmarket to a level between personal computers and minicomputers, Academics quickly embraced that environment, and the Unix wars were starting. In the midst of that several Unices were introduced in the PC world but aside from small verticals (Microsoft Xenix/SCO Unix, Minix) it didn't really gain ground until BSD hit PC hardware, and Linus Torvalds decided he wanted to run Unix on his PC and started developing his own clone, and decided to share it for people to experiment with, and FSF embraced it and added their userland tools to it. Linux's rapid growth in popularity caught Linus by surprise but he kept up with maintaining the kernel and expanding its capabilities. Widespread Unix on the desktop was on the not-so-far horizon.
MacOS didn't stand still - to be sure, it had its limitations which kept it from gaining popularity in many industries, but it continued to gain capability and performance In order to keep Apple in the enterprises it had penetrated, Apple embraced a Unix variant and released their own Unix product, since MacOS didn't cut it as a server, and with the introduction of OS2 and Windows NT, needed a server product which interoperated with MacOS to prevent their market share from eroding.
Then Windows went and grew up, and became usable in those environments and made inroads in multimedia. It had its shortcomings, like MacOS did, but with cheap commodity PC hardware, cheap processor power, and rapidly advancing sound and video card technologies, an alternative to the Amiga-based Video Toaster was available for much less money. With Commodore's execs embezzling millions upon millions instead of putting resources into both R&D and marketing, Commodore was very soon to go belly-up and leave the market forever. SGI had taken the lead in high-end media production, but the time had come for the PC to start making inroads.
PC hardware was quickly gaining momentum in its advancements, and now workstation processing capability was available for PC prices, Video was still lagging behind somewhat, but BSD and Linux had become well more than capable for not only headless servers, but could now form the basis for rendering farms. competitors to SGI now popped up in the PC market. Also, with the unices' inherent security model and multiuser capability, mainframes became a defunct market, probably forever. Clustering was now cheap.
Innovation is dead? Every step of the way folks with no vision have made that claim. What's to come next? 20 years ago, aside from privileged academics and a few eccentric visionaries (Ross Perot comes to mind) and trekkies, who envisioned a very real widespread network which would make the world a very small place, where anyone who wanted could connect to this network and not only chat with friends in the next town or even the next state
30% overhead was average for debug builds of huge applications I managed builds and releases for. I can't imagine that Microsoft would have a 1000% overhead for debug builds of OS components considering they use Visual Studio for development of most of the components.
A similar level of capability?
;)
I wasn't aware that Microsoft was bundling SQL Server, Microsoft Office, a variety of development suites, full mail servers, various database front ends, multiple scripting languages, a HUGE selection of drivers (including source), a huge variety of desktop environments, a huge selection of media players, a slew of networking protocols and enterprise-capable server applications AND dropping the 10-connection limitation. Thanks for enlightening us!
(Hint: 8GB of SuSE or any other Linux distribution includes the capabilities of all of the above and much, much more)
You went through all that? What a f'n nerd!
Oh wait, this is slashdot. Carry on, then! <disclaimerforfolkswithnosenseofhumor>(just kidding, don't take offense, etc.)</disclaimerforfolkswithnosenseofhumor>
10GB for just the operating system is just plain ridiculous. Take practically any Linux distribution, you will have a full installation of the OS, assorted userland utilities, scores of server and desktop applications (hundreds if you count them by component), and a whole slew of games and still struggle to reach 10GB. Ditto for OS/X.
Okay, so the beta as ships is compiled in debug mode, so the final release won't be 10GB; assume an average of 30% overhead for debug hooks (that's a generous figure). That would still give you 6.6 or so of disk consumption for the OS itself. Now, let's remove the extraneous files you never need - all the readme files, the install logs, and so forth - all the junk text files Microsoft leaves in %windir% - that's maybe 50MB or so, if you're very, very generous with rounding up for each file before adding them together. It's still around 6.6GB or so. Let's be more generous and call it 6GB just to give Microsoft the benefit of the doubt.
That's just ridiculous. It's clear from other, better-written reviews that Vista is much more than a simple update to Windows XP, but does the increase in functionality actually justify occuping over 6GB of disk space? Is the 6GB the result of extremely inefficient, sloppy code (which would explain Vista's minimum requirements compared to Linux+XGL or OS X's much more modest minimum requirements for similar eye candy capability), or is the entire thing written in VBscript and run through an interpreter at runtime? 6GB just seems to be a bit much, and if 10GB is closer to reality for the release mode build, it's even more absurd. They bundled in Media Center functionality - so? ATI's media center application and *nix's MythTV are far smaller than MythTV, and in the case of MythTV, does far more, without the DRM emcumberment - and highly extensible due to the source availability, if you are so inclined. They included tablet functionality? Well, I have that capability (pretty much screen rotation and handwriting recognition) with my PocketPC, in only 32MB of ROM, so that does not explain the tremendous size of the OS. Networking? OS X and Linux and BSD all include far more network stacks, drivers (Well, OS X does not include many drivers due to the limited hardware support matrix), etc. right out of the box and still takes far less space than Windows Vista.
Just what exactly is adding the bloat?
Regarding the review: Tom's "review" is not a review, but a glorified screenshot gallery - I didn't get past page 13 because I want a review and not just a bunch of screenshots spaced out over 40 pages for the purpose of generating billable ad impressions. If you want me to view the ads, give me worthwhile content.
Russia is better off going isolationlist and not joining the WTO. Look at the mess we have here in America as an example. Our politicians have an incessent need to butt their noses in everyone else's business, despite the citizen base not wanting them to do so. We (meaning our government) has no right to tell other countries how to handle their business at all. Our influence should end at the border and tariffs, unless assistance is a) explicitly requested from others and b) supported/approved by citizens.
Don't listen to the US. Show a backbone like so few other countries have and tell Duhbya to fuck off already. Don't cooperate with the current administration one iota; wait and see what the 2008 election brings. Hopefully the next administration will be far less corrupt.
Why not? Protecting the Mickey Mouse law is a high priority - much higher than, oh, say, actually capturing Osama Bin Laden, developing clean power, building modernized oil refineries, or resolving Middle East problems. Where the hell are your priorities, anyway? ;)
What about parks, several cases of rape and pedophilia has been caused by connections made on such sites, are they assisting these crimes as well?
What about prisons, several cases of rape and pedophilia has been caused by connections made on such sites, are they assisting these crimes as well?
What about the oval office, several cases of rape and pedophilia has been caused by connections made on such sites, are they assisting these crimes as well?
What about the boy scouts/girl scouts/4H/Big Brothers/YMCA, several cases of rape and pedophilia has been caused by connections made on such sites, are they assisting these crimes as well?
What about the public schools, several cases of rape and pedophilia has been caused by connections made on such sites, are they assisting these crimes as well?
What about homes, several cases of rape and pedophilia has been caused by connections made on such sites, are they assisting these crimes as well?
My point?
Perverts and scumbags of the world are EVERYWHERE. There is nothing special about TPB, Myspace, or any other Internet venue which would be any different; perverts are just more visible there.
Please don't lump all of us in with our corrupt bastard politicians.
:)
Thanks.
We used to; it is called the Federal Bureau of Investigation. The charter for that agency is to investigate government corruption, especially the executive branch of government, which includes the police and military. Unfortunately the laws and charter have been utterly ignored for many years and the FBI has become part of the executive branch and is itself often caught up in corrupt dealings, including spying on citizens and searching without warrants or probable cause.