I do agree that my previous posts have been modded as Troll for supporting MS...thats the unfortunate part of/. as its is biased towards non MS.
I am not anti-outsourcing or anti Indian dude...I am on H1b myself - its just that I feel bad when H1bs gets exploited. I don't think theres anything wrong in the information I gave about Wipro/Infosys in my post (please feel free to ask around). Also the whole quota on H1b is kind of fueling the exploitation. Just consider a single gas station in a small town posts a message saying they will be receiving only x thousand gallons of gas supply in week. Almost everyone in the town will flock to fill up their cars thinking they might run out. But in reality, the actual consumption would be less than x thousand gallons in any general week but its the psychology of people working here to consume fast based upon current week supply information. Had there been no info, things would have been same...
The same context applies to H1bs - the total limit of 65K + 20K fuels people/companies to apply for H1b as soon as they open up. This resulted in nearly 150K applications in first few days of this April. If there were no quota (which I really wish), companies would apply for visas only as necessary and total number used up would be less than 75K with lot less unwanted/wasted H1bs... Now the companies would resort to use L1 visas (which do not come under quota) if they really need to send someone to US!
As someone else pointed out, which I agree, it does costs Wipro/Infosys less to keep person in India rather than sending here but the cost of applying H1bs is peanuts for them. They would easily apply for everyone in group if they feel they MAY have to send them to US for say a month or two...
I am an Indian citizen and I absolutely support this inquiry. The companies mentioned here (WIPRO, Infosys, TCS etc) definitely exploit H1b. They apply H1b for their employees assuming they MAY have to send them to US and not based on existing work, at least thats how its is for around 2/3 of their cases.
Also, these companies treat sending their employees to US (client base) as an incentive and send only 1 or 2 person in a group and rotate them so as to give a "chance" to all. But since H1b is not transferable, they would have applied for H1b for everyone in the group at the beginning of H1b fiscal year. Every WIPRO/Infosys employee knows this - Just ask around to validate
I really wish there was a limit of how many H1bs these companies can get...
Nice to see some reply giving MS their deserved credit and not just crying likr other slashdot posts. I am not saying MS has THE best solution, but I do agree that their solution is better than others in the industry (inluding Linux) and yes, may be twice a month is better.
>Yes, they are regular monthly patches. That means that they are withholding completed patches until the chosen day comes.
Thats because sys-admins want to install patches at a regular schedule and not as and when they become available. You know there are millions of windows machines out there unlike a handful of Linux m/cs...hmmm, I wonder why?
Very good points...Can't agree with you more. Its always the case here in slashdot that when something is wrong with Linux, its just the fault of that distribution or even minor branch. But when it comes to MS products, its the total of all products and the entire company.
But again, none of these matters. Unless Linux community admits that common user features (usabiluty, ease-of-use,...) are very important and fixes them (instead of bashing MS), Linux will not have more that 10% or market share ever.
>Probably when they gain a practical monopoly on desktop computing
Yea right...First let Linux gain a respectable market share, then we can think of monopoly. Its been years and I don't see Linux gaining more that few percent share in any near future in its current pathetic state w.r.t common man usability.
>The subject at hand is Hotmail, which is Microsoft
Exactly!
>but does not have anything close to a 90% market share
I never said that Hotmail has close to 90% share. The point here is that its not possible to implement all the geeky features. If you try to implement all (may be really cool) features, then there will be lot of common user features missing. Want an example - just look at Debian. Its one of the best kernels but has got less than 0.5% of market share.
>...and for the record, I do not need a reason to bash MS, they readily provide reasons that I can pick and choose from at will. I choose this one because it relates to my work.
Please do...doesn't gonna change anything. We still have to use or at least support MS products as they will continue have 90% (in general) market share.
You just need some reason to bash MS...Ever wondered why anything non MS (except few exceptions like Apache or Firefox) have less that 10% of market share even after so much of years?
What..? Opera is a browser whereas Thunderbird is a mail client...
But even then, Thunderbird is not that good to switch from your current mail client whichever it is. Its too buggy and limited in features.
> praise despite being an excellent email client
Since when? I have been using Thunderbird since last 3 yrs and its just an average (or below) email client. Even though inline spell checker was introduced in Thunderbird 1.5, its just OK and definitely not comparable to Outlooks's spelling and grammar check. Also lot of times it just seems to download an email forever.
Cant forget the ugly bug where in it says "The content of this mail can be downloaded on demand"...From where? Theres no 'download now' button'.
Just because Firefox is a great product and Thunderbird is from same guys as Firefox, doesn't mean Thunderbird is great too. Its definitely NOT!
The major thing here is Windows XP is not bad...I have hardly had any crashes on my XP machine and I am using it with more ease (in installation and setup) than my Ubuntu m/c at home. Theres not much need for people to simply switch to Vista - It will happen over time though as we may like to use the Aero interface or other new features in Vista or even in Visa Sp1!!
>But let's face the truth. Beyond running as a server of some sort where it does one thing and does it will, Linux just stinks and most of the community doesn't want to admit there is a problem and let alone fix it. There is an attitude that it is the Users aka Customers fault for any problem that occurs, and the program is perfect unless a "Skilled" hacker was able to break your application and find a security problem.
Cant's say that in a better way, Right on...
>We need more developers for Linux and Linux applications who openly say Linux Sucks, that way we can get better tools especially for business use.
Hmmm.. I think we need more testers and more business folks who can tune (tune a lot may be) Linux to common usage. Even after fighting for entire day, I couldn't even get my 5 button Bluetooth mouse to work on Ubuntu.
>So yeah, I used to defend Bill Gate's foundation with the premise that, even though the Corporation "Microsoft" was bad, that did not mean the foundation was bad... but the e-Mexico issue made me change my views.
So one issues changed your views...Hmmm, you need to open your eyes. In developing countries theres so much of corruption that its impossible to find out a good organization with no complaints. Lot of times even the investigation will be carried on by a corrupt official because the organization refused to pay bribe!
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long toe will produce better coders!!!?
I do agree that my previous posts have been modded as Troll for supporting MS...thats the unfortunate part of /. as its is biased towards non MS.
I am not anti-outsourcing or anti Indian dude...I am on H1b myself - its just that I feel bad when H1bs gets exploited. I don't think theres anything wrong in the information I gave about Wipro/Infosys in my post (please feel free to ask around). Also the whole quota on H1b is kind of fueling the exploitation. Just consider a single gas station in a small town posts a message saying they will be receiving only x thousand gallons of gas supply in week. Almost everyone in the town will flock to fill up their cars thinking they might run out. But in reality, the actual consumption would be less than x thousand gallons in any general week but its the psychology of people working here to consume fast based upon current week supply information. Had there been no info, things would have been same...
The same context applies to H1bs - the total limit of 65K + 20K fuels people/companies to apply for H1b as soon as they open up. This resulted in nearly 150K applications in first few days of this April. If there were no quota (which I really wish), companies would apply for visas only as necessary and total number used up would be less than 75K with lot less unwanted/wasted H1bs... Now the companies would resort to use L1 visas (which do not come under quota) if they really need to send someone to US!
As someone else pointed out, which I agree, it does costs Wipro/Infosys less to keep person in India rather than sending here but the cost of applying H1bs is peanuts for them. They would easily apply for everyone in group if they feel they MAY have to send them to US for say a month or two...
I am an Indian citizen and I absolutely support this inquiry. The companies mentioned here (WIPRO, Infosys, TCS etc) definitely exploit H1b. They apply H1b for their employees assuming they MAY have to send them to US and not based on existing work, at least thats how its is for around 2/3 of their cases. Also, these companies treat sending their employees to US (client base) as an incentive and send only 1 or 2 person in a group and rotate them so as to give a "chance" to all. But since H1b is not transferable, they would have applied for H1b for everyone in the group at the beginning of H1b fiscal year. Every WIPRO/Infosys employee knows this - Just ask around to validate
I really wish there was a limit of how many H1bs these companies can get...
>before Mozilla and eBay could release their jointly developed extension in Europe.
Its an embarrassment to Firefox folks too then...Way to go guys. Really useful add-on
Nice to see some reply giving MS their deserved credit and not just crying likr other slashdot posts. I am not saying MS has THE best solution, but I do agree that their solution is better than others in the industry (inluding Linux) and yes, may be twice a month is better.
>Yes, they are regular monthly patches. That means that they are withholding completed patches until the chosen day comes.
Thats because sys-admins want to install patches at a regular schedule and not as and when they become available. You know there are millions of windows machines out there unlike a handful of Linux m/cs...hmmm, I wonder why?
Very good points...Can't agree with you more. Its always the case here in slashdot that when something is wrong with Linux, its just the fault of that distribution or even minor branch. But when it comes to MS products, its the total of all products and the entire company.
But again, none of these matters. Unless Linux community admits that common user features (usabiluty, ease-of-use,...) are very important and fixes them (instead of bashing MS), Linux will not have more that 10% or market share ever.
>Probably when they gain a practical monopoly on desktop computing
Yea right...First let Linux gain a respectable market share, then we can think of monopoly. Its been years and I don't see Linux gaining more that few percent share in any near future in its current pathetic state w.r.t common man usability.
Can't agree more!!!
>Idiot
...and for the record, I do not need a reason to bash MS, they readily provide reasons that I can pick and choose from at will. I choose this one because it relates to my work.
Likewise
>The subject at hand is Hotmail, which is Microsoft
Exactly!
>but does not have anything close to a 90% market share
I never said that Hotmail has close to 90% share. The point here is that its not possible to implement all the geeky features. If you try to implement all (may be really cool) features, then there will be lot of common user features missing. Want an example - just look at Debian. Its one of the best kernels but has got less than 0.5% of market share.
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Please do...doesn't gonna change anything. We still have to use or at least support MS products as they will continue have 90% (in general) market share.
You just need some reason to bash MS...Ever wondered why anything non MS (except few exceptions like Apache or Firefox) have less that 10% of market share even after so much of years?
50K is too pricey for lot of legitimate foreign banks...It will only work for banks operating in countries like US, Japan, France and a few more...:(
Dude...clearly IBM it trying to make some bucks from the work "OPEN" here...C'mon its not any twisted logic.
Good point!
What..? Opera is a browser whereas Thunderbird is a mail client... But even then, Thunderbird is not that good to switch from your current mail client whichever it is. Its too buggy and limited in features.
> praise despite being an excellent email client
Since when? I have been using Thunderbird since last 3 yrs and its just an average (or below) email client. Even though inline spell checker was introduced in Thunderbird 1.5, its just OK and definitely not comparable to Outlooks's spelling and grammar check. Also lot of times it just seems to download an email forever.
Cant forget the ugly bug where in it says "The content of this mail can be downloaded on demand"...From where? Theres no 'download now' button'.
Just because Firefox is a great product and Thunderbird is from same guys as Firefox, doesn't mean Thunderbird is great too. Its definitely NOT!
The major thing here is Windows XP is not bad...I have hardly had any crashes on my XP machine and I am using it with more ease (in installation and setup) than my Ubuntu m/c at home.
Theres not much need for people to simply switch to Vista - It will happen over time though as we may like to use the Aero interface or other new features in Vista or even in Visa Sp1!!
No matter how much you gripe, its gonna change nothing. A year from now, 60%+ of PCs will have Vista and less than 5% each will have Linux or Mac.
Firefox has a vulnerability... thats impossible!!...Lets blame it on windows as usual.
Winners: Handful like Firefox, MySql and Apache Losers: Everyone else including Linux Just see how many folks are using each product...
Who cares...? IE and Firefox are already taking up 95%+ of the market and theres no chance for Netscape.
>But let's face the truth. Beyond running as a server of some sort where it does one thing and does it will, Linux just stinks and most of the community doesn't want to admit there is a problem and let alone fix it. There is an attitude that it is the Users aka Customers fault for any problem that occurs, and the program is perfect unless a "Skilled" hacker was able to break your application and find a security problem. Cant's say that in a better way, Right on... >We need more developers for Linux and Linux applications who openly say Linux Sucks, that way we can get better tools especially for business use. Hmmm.. I think we need more testers and more business folks who can tune (tune a lot may be) Linux to common usage. Even after fighting for entire day, I couldn't even get my 5 button Bluetooth mouse to work on Ubuntu.
>So yeah, I used to defend Bill Gate's foundation with the premise that, even though the Corporation "Microsoft" was bad, that did not mean the foundation was bad... but the e-Mexico issue made me change my views.
So one issues changed your views...Hmmm, you need to open your eyes. In developing countries theres so much of corruption that its impossible to find out a good organization with no complaints. Lot of times even the investigation will be carried on by a corrupt official because the organization refused to pay bribe!
OpenOffice...Yea, right! OpenOffice folks need to learn a thing or two about common-man software.
Then why doesn't Ubuntu or other distro make a deal with a OEM?...C'mon you know that there is truth in this article...