Anyone get the impression that SCO is claiming that lines such as:
time_t time(time_t __timer); in files such as time.h are violating their 'copyright'?
Nothing so specific. Their claims concerning SMP listed such files that looked, in their entireity, similar to this:
#ifdef SMP #error SMP not supported on this architecture #endif
Granted, they may have a claim against SOME code, but this sure doesn't help... And their refusal to mitigate damages... well, I don't need to rehash what's been beaten to death already.
> I mean, you probably just can't run any kind of algorithm on there can you?
Probably. I should imagine it has local storage with the corresponding fetch and store instructions, basic math, and ability to jump to arbitrary points in the shader program, which makes it very much turing complete. Everything else is a matter of a compiler backend. Bus latency would be an issue, so it'd be painful for programs that need a lot of I/O, but that's not an issue for a lot of programs.
"I detest allegory in all its manifestations" -- J.R.R. Tolkien
I rather wonder whether Tolkien and Lewis had a private falling-out that didn't become public, and this was a snipe. I know the comment was aimed at people who drew WWII comparisons with the War of the Ring (he never claimed he wasn't informed by WWII, he just didn't care for the insinuation that his characters hid some "message"), but Lewis is all about allegory, veiled messages (occasionally not so veiled), and so on. He had to know whose nose he was tweaking with a comment like that.
Re:Larry Wall's first mention of Perl on Usenet
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Perl is Sweet Sixteen
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Dear lord... Knee jerk to keyboard to submit button, brain left out. Impatience was there, hubris wasn't.
Perhaps it's more appropriate that way, perl6 is such a supreme act of hubris that it's proving to be perl's downfall. Python is likely to never move to parrot (I doubted it anyway, the delays and interminable rewriting seals it), one-off CGI's are moving to PHP (which I personally think is awful, but it's Good Enough for most), and ruby is nibbling away at what's left. I still use perl for scripts, but I don't think I could go with it for a full program anymore unless I really needed something perl could provide and neither python nor java could (and try Resin before you scoff at java). Unfortunately, that set is becoming vanishingly small...
Re:Larry Wall's first mention of Perl on Usenet
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The two chief virtues in a programmer are laziness and impatience
And as perl6 and Duke Nukem Forever copy each other's release schedules, it seems appropriate to go full circle and leave behind the later-added third virtue of impatience.
Way back in my Comp Sci days, I could have sworn that when a 386 (and to some extent a 286) was running in protected mode, different areas of memory could be marked as 'code' for execution and for 'data' that could not be executed. Trying to read or write to the code area, or execute a data area would result in exceptions. It was many years ago though...
That's how it works now, and the CPU won't execute from instructions in areas marked nonexecutable. Problem is, the stack is executable, and that's where buffer overruns happen. And a certain code technique called a trampoline, which generates asm on the stack to execute, requires an executable stack. Trampolines aren't strictly necessary, but they are fast and easy, and they're not going to be easy to get out of everything that needs it. I'm told there's ways around the nonexecutable stack as well, though I'm not certain what they are. Regardless, I'm not sure if it's even possible to make the stack nonexecutable on IA32...
Of course it hasn't caused any problems. It's a couple folks every half hour. Try a few thousand folks every minute (imagine it's a metaserver for some online game, or a blog during a major news event).
Still, I'm not seeing anything beyond the "duh" factor here. All that needs to happen is for browsers to handle torrent links. Not some souped up napster app, a browser, so that I can type in a torrent link and get any web page (or other mime doc) for the browser to handle. Change the RSS to use the new URL scheme, and there you go. You could also do it as a proxy, but you run into worse cache coherency issues than with direct support of the protocol; who's to say who has the correct mapping of the content url to the torrent url?
Good luck, mind you, on getting anything but blogs, download sites, and perhaps hobby news sites to jump on board. This issue has been beaten to death in the IETF and many other circles, and it all boils down to content control -- the NY Times simply doesn't want its content mirrored like that.
> If you keep that in mind, how hard do you suppose it will be to WMDs?
I dropped this little eyeglass screw in a plush carpet. Took me forever to find it, I actually gave up for a day then the cat was playing around with something and I saw it was the screw, it found it in the carpet. If it took me so long to find that little thing, how hard to you suppose it will be to find unicorns^WWMD's in iraq?
Jesus... one single person with no supplies except a box of money compared to an allegedly far-reaching WMD program. This approaches the chewbacca defense.
> Yeah, totally. I mean... the whole idea of compilers generating fast code is over-hyped anyway.:)
Actually, for a few projects I've done, I'd settle for a fast compiler, since the program is so I/O bound, I could have written it in perl if memory consumption wouldn't go through the roof if I did. Python+psyco looks intriguing, but I'd rather move to lisp... assuming I could find a decent free CL compiler for windows (not clisp, that's cygwin, and it doesn't even handle proper tail recursion)
Re:An active response to spam - what do you think?
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The Life of a Spammer
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> Not through per email micropayments or any other such scheme, but by doing what the spammers are asking for: visiting their sites.
1) You're already doing it if your client is opening images in the spam. They're not going to care about another connection.
2) Spammers are already using zombie networks to load-balance. This method will simply increase the trend.
3) Two words: joe job.
There's a few types of spam that would be taken down by overwhelming response. One is MLM (joe.spammer, 238472873 users have joined your downline! spot the real ones!) and another is mortgage spams, since bogus information will dilute the value of referrals. The rest would simply raise the noise floor all that much more.
Re:any ideas what ip's she has assigned to her?
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> I'd love to firewall her off preemptively
Then use spamcop, SORBS, or the spamhaus SBL, because like the article says, she's using the "cajun spammer gang" tricks -- which involves SMTP AUTH password cracking, and open relay and proxy spamming. No doubt she'd use zombies if she bought in to that network.
She's a felon thousands of times over. You want to pre-empt her spam, call your states AG.
> If the producer loses one market, it could find another
Not overnight... and you don't think they're not producing for those markets too? It's not like Singapore is going to increase its demand for electronics a thousandfold because the US isn't buying. Two words for you: capital flight.
Incidentally, after reading the rest of the posts at threshold 0, I'm going back to 2 to stay. Not that it does any good when the moderators don't RTFA.
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Automodding parent via repost:
SHEEP MODERATORS GET DUPED AGAIN (Score:0)
Hey guys, should you be moderating the comments when you didnt even read the article?
None of those so-called quotes appear in the article. I made them up.
The ballot was pretty simple: you connected two parts of an arrow together that pointed at your choice of candidate. None of this Florida confusion, you literally pointed at who you were voting for! Then, the ballot was read by a scanner that was placed over a large box. The scanner confirmed that your vote had been counted correctly, and the box kept the ballot.
That would be the Optech Eagle, made by Sequoia Voting Systems, and popular in Northern California as well. They also make touch-screen systems, but they do note on the home page that it prints a paper copy for voter verification (not a batch print), and that their machines got a green light from the Nevada Gaming Commission, which probably has stricter standards on condom vending machines than Diebold has on their voting machines.
> As an aside, what's surprising is how many people consider Codd's original ideas outdated
Including Codd himself. Not all of them, but he's certainly put them up for revisiting. Specifically, he's not at all fond anymore of NULL (Rule #3 of the 12 rules). Anyone who believes their own principles are final and immutable is simply deluded.
> Now most of us here realize that Lindows is Linux and Windows put together
You just made the trademark dilution case. Unless you're talking about the name alone, it most certainly is not Linux+Windows. Windows is not included with Lindows, and it's hardly compatible for applications such as games, and frankly most other things. Someone could pick up a Lindows machine, try to run something Wine doesn't support well, and form the opinion that it's Windows that's malfunctioning.
To respondents: your clever rejoinders about the quality of Windows won't be funny or original. Don't bother.
> So, now when copyright/trademark a name for product, you also copyright/trademark every word that 'sounds like' the name or is a 'synonym' of the name? WTF is that?
When there's the potential for confusion, such when it's an operating system with a name that's pronounced and spelled almost identically with a desktop that does its damndest to look exactly like XP all the way down to the rolling green grassy hill wallpaper, then hell yes there's a case for dilution.
You hypocrites would be jumping all over Microsoft if they came out with anything that looked like Gnome or sounded like Linux. I think Microsoft has shown remarkable restraint.
> Lots of us aren't given a choice. Our desktops at work are locked down, so normal users can't install or change the software available.
Firebird works without any "install" at all. Presumably they let you have home directories. Kind of sucks when you can't change your default browser, but if you really must escape IE, there you go.
Personally, I still use IE here at work, and opera at home, thunderbird if something's heavily javascripted. Firebird/Moz still has too many "issues" with drag selection behavior to be usable for the particular apps I use IE for (for starters they need to stop making the god damn thing scroll when the selection is extended offscreen but the mouse isn't at a top or bottom edge).
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Anyone get the impression that SCO is claiming that lines such as:
time_t time(time_t __timer);
in files such as time.h are violating their 'copyright'?
Nothing so specific. Their claims concerning SMP listed such files that looked, in their entireity, similar to this:
#ifdef SMP
#error SMP not supported on this architecture
#endif
Granted, they may have a claim against SOME code, but this sure doesn't help... And their refusal to mitigate damages... well, I don't need to rehash what's been beaten to death already.
> I mean, you probably just can't run any kind of algorithm on there can you?
Probably. I should imagine it has local storage with the corresponding fetch and store instructions, basic math, and ability to jump to arbitrary points in the shader program, which makes it very much turing complete. Everything else is a matter of a compiler backend. Bus latency would be an issue, so it'd be painful for programs that need a lot of I/O, but that's not an issue for a lot of programs.
> Heck, MS Visual C++ alone probably costs more than the Qt license
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See below.
http://www.trolltech.com/products/qt/pricing.ht
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/howtobuy/pric
"I detest allegory in all its manifestations" -- J.R.R. Tolkien
I rather wonder whether Tolkien and Lewis had a private falling-out that didn't become public, and this was a snipe. I know the comment was aimed at people who drew WWII comparisons with the War of the Ring (he never claimed he wasn't informed by WWII, he just didn't care for the insinuation that his characters hid some "message"), but Lewis is all about allegory, veiled messages (occasionally not so veiled), and so on. He had to know whose nose he was tweaking with a comment like that.
echo isn't even a perl function, nor is ge.
print ucfirst (($age < 16 and "il") . "legal");
Dear lord... Knee jerk to keyboard to submit button, brain left out. Impatience was there, hubris wasn't.
Perhaps it's more appropriate that way, perl6 is such a supreme act of hubris that it's proving to be perl's downfall. Python is likely to never move to parrot (I doubted it anyway, the delays and interminable rewriting seals it), one-off CGI's are moving to PHP (which I personally think is awful, but it's Good Enough for most), and ruby is nibbling away at what's left. I still use perl for scripts, but I don't think I could go with it for a full program anymore unless I really needed something perl could provide and neither python nor java could (and try Resin before you scoff at java). Unfortunately, that set is becoming vanishingly small...
The two chief virtues in a programmer are laziness and impatience
And as perl6 and Duke Nukem Forever copy each other's release schedules, it seems appropriate to go full circle and leave behind the later-added third virtue of impatience.
"I tell my kids that's where Darth Vader lives."
Wouldn't that be the Death Star?
Way back in my Comp Sci days, I could have sworn that when a 386 (and to some extent a 286) was running in protected mode, different areas of memory could be marked as 'code' for execution and for 'data' that could not be executed. Trying to read or write to the code area, or execute a data area would result in exceptions. It was many years ago though ...
That's how it works now, and the CPU won't execute from instructions in areas marked nonexecutable. Problem is, the stack is executable, and that's where buffer overruns happen. And a certain code technique called a trampoline, which generates asm on the stack to execute, requires an executable stack. Trampolines aren't strictly necessary, but they are fast and easy, and they're not going to be easy to get out of everything that needs it. I'm told there's ways around the nonexecutable stack as well, though I'm not certain what they are. Regardless, I'm not sure if it's even possible to make the stack nonexecutable on IA32...
Of course it hasn't caused any problems. It's a couple folks every half hour. Try a few thousand folks every minute (imagine it's a metaserver for some online game, or a blog during a major news event).
Still, I'm not seeing anything beyond the "duh" factor here. All that needs to happen is for browsers to handle torrent links. Not some souped up napster app, a browser, so that I can type in a torrent link and get any web page (or other mime doc) for the browser to handle. Change the RSS to use the new URL scheme, and there you go. You could also do it as a proxy, but you run into worse cache coherency issues than with direct support of the protocol; who's to say who has the correct mapping of the content url to the torrent url?
Good luck, mind you, on getting anything but blogs, download sites, and perhaps hobby news sites to jump on board. This issue has been beaten to death in the IETF and many other circles, and it all boils down to content control -- the NY Times simply doesn't want its content mirrored like that.
> If you keep that in mind, how hard do you suppose it will be to WMDs?
I dropped this little eyeglass screw in a plush carpet. Took me forever to find it, I actually gave up for a day then the cat was playing around with something and I saw it was the screw, it found it in the carpet. If it took me so long to find that little thing, how hard to you suppose it will be to find unicorns^WWMD's in iraq?
Jesus... one single person with no supplies except a box of money compared to an allegedly far-reaching WMD program. This approaches the chewbacca defense.
> Yeah, totally. I mean ... the whole idea of compilers generating fast code is over-hyped anyway. :)
... assuming I could find a decent free CL compiler for windows (not clisp, that's cygwin, and it doesn't even handle proper tail recursion)
Actually, for a few projects I've done, I'd settle for a fast compiler, since the program is so I/O bound, I could have written it in perl if memory consumption wouldn't go through the roof if I did. Python+psyco looks intriguing, but I'd rather move to lisp
> Not through per email micropayments or any other such scheme, but by doing what the spammers are asking for: visiting their sites.
1) You're already doing it if your client is opening images in the spam. They're not going to care about another connection.
2) Spammers are already using zombie networks to load-balance. This method will simply increase the trend.
3) Two words: joe job.
There's a few types of spam that would be taken down by overwhelming response. One is MLM (joe.spammer, 238472873 users have joined your downline! spot the real ones!) and another is mortgage spams, since bogus information will dilute the value of referrals. The rest would simply raise the noise floor all that much more.
> I'd love to firewall her off preemptively
Then use spamcop, SORBS, or the spamhaus SBL, because like the article says, she's using the "cajun spammer gang" tricks -- which involves SMTP AUTH password cracking, and open relay and proxy spamming. No doubt she'd use zombies if she bought in to that network.
She's a felon thousands of times over. You want to pre-empt her spam, call your states AG.
> If the producer loses one market, it could find another
... and you don't think they're not producing for those markets too? It's not like Singapore is going to increase its demand for electronics a thousandfold because the US isn't buying. Two words for you: capital flight.
Not overnight
Maybe next time they go out, they'll arrest Saddam Hussein instead.
'a senior manager might read this PowerPoint slide and not realize that it addresses a life-threatening situation
How well would the words Life Threatening Situation in 64 pt Times New Roman convey the situation?
Incidentally, after reading the rest of the posts at threshold 0, I'm going back to 2 to stay. Not that it does any good when the moderators don't RTFA.
He may be a troll, but you did mod him up.
Psst buddy, ten bucks for your barcode. Please think these "clever" solutions over a little first?
The ballot was pretty simple: you connected two parts of an arrow together that pointed at your choice of candidate. None of this Florida confusion, you literally pointed at who you were voting for! Then, the ballot was read by a scanner that was placed over a large box. The scanner confirmed that your vote had been counted correctly, and the box kept the ballot.
That would be the Optech Eagle, made by Sequoia Voting Systems, and popular in Northern California as well. They also make touch-screen systems, but they do note on the home page that it prints a paper copy for voter verification (not a batch print), and that their machines got a green light from the Nevada Gaming Commission, which probably has stricter standards on condom vending machines than Diebold has on their voting machines.
> As an aside, what's surprising is how many people consider Codd's original ideas outdated
Including Codd himself. Not all of them, but he's certainly put them up for revisiting. Specifically, he's not at all fond anymore of NULL (Rule #3 of the 12 rules). Anyone who believes their own principles are final and immutable is simply deluded.
> Now most of us here realize that Lindows is Linux and Windows put together
You just made the trademark dilution case. Unless you're talking about the name alone, it most certainly is not Linux+Windows. Windows is not included with Lindows, and it's hardly compatible for applications such as games, and frankly most other things. Someone could pick up a Lindows machine, try to run something Wine doesn't support well, and form the opinion that it's Windows that's malfunctioning.
To respondents: your clever rejoinders about the quality of Windows won't be funny or original. Don't bother.
> So, now when copyright/trademark a name for product, you also copyright/trademark every word that 'sounds like' the name or is a 'synonym' of the name? WTF is that?
When there's the potential for confusion, such when it's an operating system with a name that's pronounced and spelled almost identically with a desktop that does its damndest to look exactly like XP all the way down to the rolling green grassy hill wallpaper, then hell yes there's a case for dilution.
You hypocrites would be jumping all over Microsoft if they came out with anything that looked like Gnome or sounded like Linux. I think Microsoft has shown remarkable restraint.
This rant brought to you by the <strong> tag.
> Lots of us aren't given a choice. Our desktops at work are locked down, so normal users can't install or change the software available.
Firebird works without any "install" at all. Presumably they let you have home directories. Kind of sucks when you can't change your default browser, but if you really must escape IE, there you go.
Personally, I still use IE here at work, and opera at home, thunderbird if something's heavily javascripted. Firebird/Moz still has too many "issues" with drag selection behavior to be usable for the particular apps I use IE for (for starters they need to stop making the god damn thing scroll when the selection is extended offscreen but the mouse isn't at a top or bottom edge).