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Nominations for 2003 Vaporware Awards
spin2cool writes "Wired News is now accepting submissions for its fifth annual Vaporware Awards. These awards "celebrate all those eagerly anticipated gizmos that were put off, put away or quietly put down. And, of course, those that existed merely as a figment of someone's imagination."
nt
Is this truly the only Earth I can live on?
Or does anyone even still remember?
-Hentai [in vita non pacem est]
I'm still waiting for that bug-free OS we were promised years ago. Should be the vaporware king for years to come.
But, someone will, just so it will be on there for five years in a row.
Hal 9000 is already 2 years late. Damn Illinois people ;)
To make laws that man cannot, and will not obey, serves to bring all law into contempt.
--E.C. Stanton
"And, of course, those that existed merely as a figment of someone's imagination."
Is that a joke, or can they read minds now? I could come up 1000 things that I planned to create but didn't tell a soul about, could one of them win?
This is obviously a clear winner...
sig:- (wit >= sarcasm)
Fackin' Duke Nukem Revolutions or whatever it's called. And where's Prey?? Whatever, Doom3 will be ruling the gaming world soon enough. >:-)
...are listed here. Indrema, nice.
The Army reading list
I'm STILL waiting for one of these wonder computers Alan Alda told me about!
Anything Amiga?
It couldn't be anything else really. Despite a demo by billg, the release date has slipped from 2004 to 2009!.
When I am king, you will be first against the wall.
and spell checker on Slashdot
Until Duke Nukem Forever is released or officially canceled, they shouldn't waste their time with Vaporware awards. We know what's going to win.
-B
Biggest piece of vaporware of all time. However, I'll still put some faith in it on the slim chance that it really has needed and benefitted from being in development for ~20 years. Seriously though, can you think of any other piece of software that's been in development that long and is still largely incomplete?
Didnt Gates or Ballmer promise that?
-- ladies and gentlemen we are floating in space!
i vote for infringing code by SCOG
longhorn winfs and all that garbage...lets hype it now even though our best guess to its arrival is 2008! what a bunch of bs. now THAT is vapourware.
Nuff said...
Ubuntu- Linux for human beings.
May it live in peace... NMA Fallout 3 info
We were promised "discovery" of those amazing Iraqi WMDs which can destroy west in matter of hours. Those will certainly qualify.
They actually released it.. unforunately it was stored incorrectly... and instead of aging into a fine wine, all we got was a bottle of vinegar.
"I am a kernel in the linux army"
dont forget SCO's Linux/UNIX infringement evidence.
How far back has the release date for doom 3 slipped? "When its done" seems to have become "When you're all too old to care". I really hope this doesnt become another DNF.
It's easier to fight for one's principles than to live up to them.
The SCO infringing code!
Every year we are told it will happen, but it still has not. I'm talking about a desktop for mom and pop, neither KDE or Gnome are anywhere near yet.
a usable FreeNet client (for all platforms, yes, even Windows) so that I may P2P without the RIAA breathing down my neck. (Java may be a good direction in that effort to get cross-platform quickly -- I recommend IBM's JDK, not Sun's)
Like MOO3 which I believe a few of the 2002 Vaporware lists. Quicksilver and Atari managed to mangle a very well know TBS name. They even managed to forget to support it, having disappeared after mid-July.
* Winners compare their achievements to their goals, losers compare theirs to that of others.
That tornado in a can thingy. Could anything else be more vaporware than a tornado?
Nuff said.
The difference between Canada and the USA is that in Canada healthcare is a right and gun ownership is a privilege.
Phantom Game console?
He also provides a unbiased analysis of gun control while justifying the cost of diamonds and declaring the pledge of allegience unconstisutional, all worth the Slashdot Subcription to see the attack of afganistan!
Refer to a random nanotechnology source. Pick a random word with nano (as in nanobot, nanomotor, nanogear etc) as its prefix. It will certainly qualify.
Does anybody else remember the day when NT stood for "Not There" instead of "New Technology?
HAL became operational in 1997:
I became operational at the HAL plant in Urbana, Illinois, on January 12, 1997
If a company uses vaporware with the intent to hurt another companies sales of a software product or any other product. In my oppion that should be illegal.. A company shouln't be allowed to say they product unless that have something... Isn't that false advertising in a way....? Just seems like a big loop hole that should fixed to prevent companies from stifling their competition
from the article: As in previous years, software in a never-ending, pre-release, beta-testing stage is considered vaporware, even if it's widely available
Isn't that WindowsXP? [/troll]
You guys just wait. You rag on DNF for five years straight, while 3D Realms is probably kicking asses left and right in the dev for it. They'll bust out in 2008 with a game that brings the house down, and all of you will be just blown away.
...fallout... of 'After vaporware, Duke Nukems you!'
Of course, then we have to live through the
Informatus Technologicus
Maybe the reason it has not materialized yet is that Latex2e works just fine.
Save the bandwidth. Don't use sigs!
At this point it's less vaporware and more religion, since it is largely sustained by faith.
Team Fortress II
Well, Valve almost made up for it with the sudden revelation of the upcoming HalfLife 2. But they blew that, too.
What about Doom III?
I'm sorry if I haven't offended anyone
This information is just to fool the filter.
It has no meaning, and no information whatsoever.
If you get information out of this message anyway, you should email me the details ASAP.
It gets my vote as the one that never was
KDE is pretty enough!
We're you talking about usability?
Sorry, my bad.
Maybe originally (I don't actually know), but they sold it as "New Technology."
Vapor != fog
My Karma is bad. May I take you out for a drink? It's on me...
enough said.
Capturing Saddam does shit little for finding WMDs now does it? If they couldn't get it out of the guy who was responsible for them ("Chemical Ali") then what good does ole Saddam do for them? Bump in the polls and flag waving.
Comparing it to Windows will be a moot point, since El Dorado is going to have a 40% larger code base than XP.
$1 billion development money and still not on the retail shelf. HP has so little faith that they have a 64 bit cpu being developed concurrently.
They sure have been producing a lot of it, and quite successfully so far...
Or Starcon, or whatever you want to call it. How long will we wait?
The GeekNights podcast is going strong. Listen!
So, after three years, only one of the top 10 vaporware products from 2000 failed to materialize. In fact, most of them went on to become successes as well.
Damn, looks like we're set for 4 more years of Texan stupidity... ...unless all you Americans wake up and ask yourself whether these hundreds of US young men (and thousands of Iraqi civilians) killed in the name of non-existent WMDs were worth it to get Dubya re-elected.
Oh, you must mean all those graves they had to dig so bury the people we killed through sanctions and wars 1 & 2?
I see now.
What was it again? Something like a half-million dead from the sanctions (mostly little kids... I bet that makes you hard) and at least a hundred thou from bombs alone.
Brave American.
Ironically, the GNU/HURD may well be more friendly to proprietary software and drivers than Linux ever will be! Being a microkernel OS, drivers would have a far cleaner separation from the GPLed HURD kernel than the current loadable module system in Linux does. Though I wouldn't bet on it, we may actually get a stable, usable Hurd kernel before Linux fixes the binary modules issue that was the topic of a recent story. At least the Hurd team IS moving towards making a stable release, but it does not seem to be a high priority at the moment in Linux dev to make even something like the Windows DDK for kernel modules.
Qu'on me donne six lignes écrites de la main du plus honnête homme, j'y trouverai de quoi le faire pendre.
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If you look at the Vaporware Awards of 2001, the #2 item on the list is Warcraft III, which did indeed make it to the shelves, to critical acclaim and record sales... Could 2003's vaporware be 2004's hit product? Let's hope so.
;)
Unless we're talking about the infringing SCO code.
MOD corebreech -5 12-year-old-kid!
Well, a year and a couple million invested and all they have is a 'repository' and a (real ugly) 'gui framework'.
Check it out.
--t
New York Times Op-Ed, January 31, 2003, Friday
A War Crime Or an Act of War?
By Stephen C. Pelletiere ( Op-Ed ) 1128 words
MECHANICSBURG, Pa. -- It was no surprise that President Bush, lacking smoking-gun evidence of Iraq's weapons programs, used his State of the Union address to re-emphasize the moral case for an invasion: ''The dictator who is assembling the world's most dangerous weapons has already used them on whole villages, leaving thousands of his own citizens dead, blind or disfigured.''
The accusation that Iraq has used chemical weapons against its citizens is a familiar part of the debate. The piece of hard evidence most frequently brought up concerns the gassing of Iraqi Kurds at the town of Halabja in March 1988, near the end of the eight-year Iran-Iraq war. President Bush himself has cited Iraq's ''gassing its own people,'' specifically at Halabja, as a reason to topple Saddam Hussein.
But the truth is, all we know for certain is that Kurds were bombarded with poison gas that day at Halabja. We cannot say with any certainty that Iraqi chemical weapons killed the Kurds. This is not the only distortion in the Halabja story.
I am in a position to know because, as the Central Intelligence Agency's senior political analyst on Iraq during the Iran-Iraq war, and as a professor at the Army War College from 1988 to 2000, I was privy to much of the classified material that flowed through Washington having to do with the Persian Gulf. In addition, I headed a 1991 Army investigation into how the Iraqis would fight a war against the United States; the classified version of the report went into great detail on the Halabja affair.
This much about the gassing at Halabja we undoubtedly know: it came about in the course of a battle between Iraqis and Iranians. Iraq used chemical weapons to try to kill Iranians who had seized the town, which is in northern Iraq not far from the Iranian border. The Kurdish civilians who died had the misfortune to be caught up in that exchange. But they were not Iraq's main target.
And the story gets murkier: immediately after the battle the United States Defense Intelligence Agency investigated and produced a classified report, which it circulated within the intelligence community on a need-to-know basis. That study asserted that it was Iranian gas that killed the Kurds, not Iraqi gas.
The agency did find that each side used gas against the other in the battle around Halabja. The condition of the dead Kurds' bodies, however, indicated they had been killed with a blood agent -- that is, a cyanide-based gas -- which Iran was known to use. The Iraqis, who are thought to have used mustard gas in the battle, are not known to have possessed blood agents at the time.
These facts have long been in the public domain but, extraordinarily, as often as the Halabja affair is cited, they are rarely mentioned. A much-discussed article in The New Yorker last March did not make reference to the Defense Intelligence Agency report or consider that Iranian gas might have killed the Kurds. On the rare occasions the report is brought up, there is usually speculation, with no proof, that it was skewed out of American political favoritism toward Iraq in its war against Iran.
I am not trying to rehabilitate the character of Saddam Hussein. He has much to answer for in the area of human rights abuses. But accusing him of gassing his own people at Halabja as an act of genocide is not correct, because as far as the information we have goes, all of the cases where gas was used involved battles. These were tragedies of war. There may be justifications for invading Iraq, but Halabja is not one of them.
In fact, those who really feel that the disaster at Halabja has bearing on today might want to consider a different question: Why was Iran so keen on taking the town? A closer look may shed light on America's impetus to invade Iraq.
We are constantly reminded that Iraq has perhaps the world's largest reserves of oil. But
Half Life 2 is the new DNF..
Lots of demos's but no shipped product, and a ship date that keeps getting pushed back.. sure everyone loves valve so this will be an un-popular point, but it's begining to look like vaporware...
If you ever drop your keys into a river of molten lava, let'em go, because, man, they're gone.
I nominate SCO Linux binary-only lisenced code. The only product supposedly on the market that no one has bought, no one knows what's in it, or why they should even purchase it.
TT
The delay of the highly anticipated Half-Life 2 due to a code-leak. Anyone have a release date?
-=- Many seek good nights and lose good days.
WMD = Whiff of Massive Dog-doodoo.
....well...it's the vapors from a pile of steaming....u know....
Well...there's the usual, DNF, HL2, Doom3 (though we've been "teased" with the alpha), and there's everyone's "favorite" SCO....though their vaporware
For Xmas, we should get SCO a bigger shovel...'cuz every time they talk, they have to shovel some "landmines"
How about Bush Jr.'s plans to get Bin-Ladin.
The Neonode N1 with it's associated M$oft OS is certainly feeling like vapourware. Another annoucement deems it unlikely to arrive by christmas either!... contrary to previous announcements.
Brittney Spears' Oscar
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You're confusing vaporware with open source :)
The source to half life 2 was leaked remeber?
"If they have both, tell them we use Linux. And if they have that, tell them the computers are down." -Dave Chapelle
The alleged "Saddam" is reputedly in an undisclosed, secure location. Isn't it ironic he now shares the same location as
President-Vice Cheney?
Very patriotically yours,
Kilgore Trout
What foolish comment were you making?
Remember a couple of years ago when Bitboys released information about their new Glaze3D graphics processor? I guess a newcomer has a hard time starting up against nVidia and, in those days, 3Dfx.
how about a grammair checker along with that? :)
World Peace!
And he certainly seems to have not had them last April or May.
The questions really are:
When did Saddam get rid of them?
What happened to them?
Why would you want to upgrade your OS every 2 years when fixing OS flaws/security-issues and updating the software should keep you fairly up-to-date? (granted, noone _should_ still be using Win95 or 98 anymore... but that was 5 or more years ago.)
Karma: NaN
Oh man I wish I had a mod point for ya! OMFG, I almost forgot about this one. For me, this was THE ONE! Built-in speech, 300 baud modem, advanced 5.25 drive... Everything you could want in an 8-bit! Wowsers...
Damn you Tramiel...
The Art of Computer Programming, Volumes 4 - 7.
Or. Dude. Nearly Finished.
Most likely Dude. Never. Forget it....
/. Where the truth
Kurds were probably attacked by Iran. See:
7 25 090
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=89335&cid=7
And the kind of chemical warheads used against Iran in the war (that we helped them make) are hardly what you would call WMD's.
And in any case, it was war, and we are hardly in the position to be scolding other nations for using WMD's in war.
Certainly he got rid of the WMD's by the time the sanctions went into place. We have no information otherwise.
Bush lied. And thousands upon thousands of innocent people died as a result.
Oh yeah, those couldn't have been Saddam's fault, now could they.
Is there anything you wouldn't condone as long as it had an anti-American bent? Probably not, since you're condoning Saddam.
And I just love how mainstream internet sites are starting to quote extreme leftist sites - nothing like daylight to send the "Bush is Hitler" cockroaches scattering.
I'm going to laugh my ass off when Dean goes down in flames in November of 2004 and takes the credibility of the Democratic Party down with him for a whole generation!
BWAAA HAAA!
that has been "six months away" for the last three years.
It sort of existed. One anyway.
...interstellar medium ware.
Outdoor digital photography, mostly in New Engl
Let's not forget Penny-Arcade's favourite piece of vapourware!
Valve Software. The kings of vaporware.
Anyone remember TF2 (it won game of the year in 1999), HL2 (due to ship last september, now postponed to who knows when), and Counter-Strike:CZ (it somehow got lost on the way to the publisher after it went gold 2 months ago).
This is no way to run a railroad, Gabe.
We really need to talk to Saddam about his caching algorithm.
You should be president of the united states of america!
It wasn't merely our cutting off aid. It was our compelling (bribing, really) the U.N. to make it so that nobody else could render aid either.
There was a period of time during which even items like basic foods and medicines were prohibited.
Go learn a little bit about the world before you come here posing as somebody who knows what he's talking about.
Damn that lameness filter, spoiling my joke. Please pretend this text isn't here.
Didn't SCO promise to provide some proof that linux contains copyrighted Unix Code? I've not seen it anywhere, and I don't predict we'll be seeing it anytime soon. Does this classify as vaporware?
I can count to 1023 on my hands. Ask me about #132.
Sadam hated Bin Laden. Sadam ran a secular state that persecuted religious extremists and it is nonsense to pretend that he ran training camps for Al Qaida.
Besides, if he was a bastard, he was our bastard. The US funded him, supplied his army, encouraged him to go to war with Iran, encouraged him to imprison and shoot the clergy... Sadam is just Noriega with oil.
The whole "Sadam is a friend of terrorists" bullshit is a lie designed to amuse and confuse a simple-minded domestic audience who can't tell the difference between Iraq, Saudi Arabia, and Afghanistan. Heck, a turban is a turban, no?
I recall that there are two diffrent PC based console systems that were mentioned this year. I don't recall each of their names, I think the hoax one was called Phantom, but I can't remember the other one.
This disproves your argument.
I'm still waiting for History of the World: Part II. See! Hitler on Ice! Jews in Space!
Now I'm just beginning to think they're never going to release that one. Stupid media censorship.
I really hate signatures, but go to my website.
The Wars on:
- poverty
- drugs
- terror
Whenever a president declares war on a noun, you know he is full of shit. "Heck, I know terror when I see it!"
I don't know if anyone actually promised these but:
OLED TVs
HD Tivo
Widespread HD adoption
The latter is *almost* here, in that I can get Discovery, a couple of the locals, HBO and Showtime in HD on my local cable system, but I wouldn't call a whopping 6-7 channels and a manditory paid installation a symptom of "widespread adoption".
GNU Hurd, anyone?
Slashdot editing and spellchecking?
[RT: If your UID is > 100k you should click the link]
And the biggest Vaporware of 2003 (drum roll, please):
Me? I'm still waiting for the LinuxOne IPO.
-- @rjamestaylor on Ello
Said to be coming for decades, haven't seen it yet.
Ready for a September release my eyes!
Tribes 2, was released as a buggy piece of crap. The AI was a joke, bots couldn't drive vehicles, UE errors galor, absurd system requirments, a stupid patch system, etc.
New Amiga. Set top box? Windows killer? Still waiting. I haven't thrown out my 3000 since 1994 waiting for the next gen.
Trustworthy Computing!
That's our life, the big wheel of shit. - The Fat Man, Blue Tango Salvage
It looks like FWB's RealPC is a strong candidate. The management struggle accompanying the exposure of RealPC vaporous nature is also entertaining.
Reading Slashdot is ruining my spelling and grammar.
Microsoft's Longhorn!
"I drank what?" - Socrates
To bet on terrorism futures.
And nobody seems to be answering my TIPS calls, either.
Ceci n'est pas une signature.
We couldn't do business with Iraq, either. Sanctions = no trade. No jobs to speak of in Iraq, no opportunity for anything to get better.
And yes, before the sanctions (and now, after the sanctions) you could do business with Iraqis directly. They were/are a capitalist nation.
Lucky for me I'm not American so watching Americans die on CNN and Aljazera is merely enteraining. Keep 'em coming it's been great TV so far.
Oh Yeah
Sears
WalMart
Target
Best Buy
CompuUSA
All point of sale running Linux live
for sale installed and running...
I waited impatiently a couple of months for September 30th to arrive only to be told that I had to wait at least another 6 months! Boooooo! My half-life is going to up up before Half-Life 2 is released. :)
Only problem is, in the specs that used to be on the website, they exceeded the Betz Limit, the theoretical limit of wind turbine efficiency. There's no way they could reach the figures claimed.
It's interesting to note that they've taken the claims off their website over the weekend.
In the meantime Gartner: Longhorn Delays Will Affect WindowsThe IT advisory firm expects the operating system to be released between late 2006 and mid-2008, but that the release could be delayed even more.
My suggestion. Get OSX Panther today and stop dreaming about tomorrow.
GNR certainly wins the album vaporware award.
Linux - Because Mommy taught me to Share.
But the last change I can find on their web site http://www.oqo.com was a link to the 2002 vaporware awards. You know it's bad when a company cites a vaporware articles about their product as product press. Maybe it is time to shut the web site down, huh?
The Champ Vaporware is the stuff that predates personal computers. Things like Flying Cars, Commerical Space Travel, Personal Robots, and Fusion Reactors have been been talked about for decades not just a few years.
Quemadmodum gladius neminem occidit, occidentis telum est
It has three games and was initially sold for 300 euros. Do you know anybody who has purchased this product? I don't.
Moderating 101
googled up and found this (supposedly recent) interview with a former employee: http://www.firingsquad.com/print_article.asp?curre nt_section=Hardware&fs_article_id=1128
SIGERR: laziness exceeds quota
> I finally gave up "believing" in 2000 when I sold my
> A4000/060 and bought a real machine.
I did the same in 2000. The world had just moved too far ahead, and despite having a fast PPC Amiga (well, relatively fast, compared to other Amigas!), I was working with machines that SO killed it in real speed, and realised how much time I spent serving the Amiga OS, instead of having it work for me. I'm still not at the bleeding edge, but a 1.2GHz computer with a modern OS I don't have to continually play with to keep working is heaven. I might wait for a new AmigaOS if I thought it'd be something special, but its presentation at recent roadshows haven't impressed me.
You Decide:
d =7885 and http://linux.omnipotent.net/article.php?article_id =7885.
The original article: http://qrxx.4t.com/barbieOS.htm along with http://g0re.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=6586, http://linux.omnipotent.net/article.php?article_i
Be nice if my daughter was on the same OS as her old man.
myke
Mimetics Inc. Twitter
I wait and wait and wait :o(((
SHE does throw dice.
Windows Lowerhorn
Wh47 d1d j00 541, 31337 15n't t3h r0xor5 ne m0r3???
CSCZero. Yeah, another sierra hit that's super late.
*hit = hype. Sorry.
When was the last time you saw a Segway zooming around town? (If ever.) I seem to remember Jeff Bezos or someone saying it would "change the way cities are built." Funny, as luck you have it I happen to be in a city right as I'm typing this, and that whole "roads" things looks pretty much the same as it has since the Romans. In fact the only time I've ever seen a Segway was some Fed zooming around on one at the airport, which offers insight into how Kamen et al. plan to ulimately make money off this turkey: sell it to the only buyer in the world with enough money and enough stupidity to be willing.
I think there is a world market for maybe five personal web logs.
Lying thief John Cooney is vaporware.
Debian sarge, wich was supposed to be released this month...
Ubisoft (don't copy your game CD's! No Backups!) has been working on Harpoon4 since I believe '99; Don't really care since I discovered Harpoon2 plays great on VirtualPC.
Matrix Games Steel Panthers:Moderna was supposed to be SP:WAW updated for the modern age; considering that it was to be free, like SP:WAW, I can't complain a whole lot.
Why, yes, I AM a Pagan Libertarian.
We know where they are. They are in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad.
- Donald Rumsfeld March 30, 2003
Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction.
- Dick Cheney August 26, 2002
Right now, Iraq is expanding and improving facilities that were used for the production of biological weapons.
- George W. Bush September 12, 2002
If he declares he has none, then we will know that Saddam Hussein is once again misleading the world.
- Ari Fleischer December 2, 2002
We know for a fact that there are weapons there.
- Ari Fleischer January 9, 2003
Our intelligence officials estimate that Saddam Hussein had the materials to produce as much as 500 tons of sarin, mustard and VX nerve agent.
- George W. Bush January 28, 2003
We know that Saddam Hussein is determined to keep his weapons of mass destruction, is determined to make more.
- Colin Powell February 5, 2003
We have sources that tell us that Saddam Hussein recently authorized Iraqi field commanders to use chemical weapons -- the very weapons the dictator tells us he does not have.
- George Bush February 8, 2003
Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised.
- George Bush March 18, 2003
We are asked to accept Saddam decided to destroy those weapons. I say that such a claim is palpably absurd.
- Tony Blair, Prime Minister 18 March, 2003
One of our top objectives is to find and destroy the WMD. There are a number of sites.
- Pentagon Spokeswoman Victoria Clark March 22, 2003
Before people crow about the absence of weapons of mass destruction, I suggest they wait a bit.
- Tony Blair 28 April, 2003
We'll find them. It'll be a matter of time to do so.
- George Bush May 3, 2003
I am confident that we will find evidence that makes it clear he had weapons of mass destruction.
- Colin Powell May 4, 2003
I never believed that we'd just tumble over weapons of mass destruction in that country.
- Donald Rumsfeld May 4, 2003
I'm not surprised if we begin to uncover the weapons program of Saddam Hussein -- because he had a weapons program.
- George W. Bush May 6, 2003
U.S. officials never expected that "we were going to open garages and find" weapons of mass destruction.
- Condoleeza Rice May 12, 2003
They may have had time to destroy them, and I don't know the answer.
- Donald Rumsfeld May 27, 2003
Link to source
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WTF are you talking about aid?
The sanctions were about cutting off TRade.
You know, like telling a person he isn't allowed to work at any jobs or buy anything from stores.
You have to drop an awful lot of bombs to equal the impoverishment and general suffering caused by a year of trade sanctions. Even if you allow trade in essential goods like food and medicine, blocking off other trade makes a country too poor to buy what they would have otherwise.
Teamfortress 2
First hint was as an expansion for HL.
Then as a standalone.
Then an expansion for HL/CS
Then a standalone.
I believe the latest incarnation is as a standalone, running the HL2 engine.
It's been so long, I don't even REMEMBER if I pre-ordered it via Amazon.com - but that was when it was a $30 expansion. Do they still have my ticket? Did I pay? I truly don't remember.
-Styopa
SCO's case against IBM?
Tiller's Rule: Never use a word in written form that you've only heard and never read. You will end up looking foolish.
Valve definitely deserves to win.
September 30 came and went. Then it got pushed back to November. Then the release date got pushed back another 6 months due to "1337 h4x0rz".
Yeah, right.
I suspect it wasnt anywhere near ready for release on September 30 or November, regardless of their excuses.
and then, the world will live in peace. Too bad he was not caught in Christmas, so we could all join coke-style singing
Right, except we accused him of having thousands of liters of various biological agents. And they can't be stored in just any old conditions if they are to retain their punch, which means they should, in the quantities they were accused of possessing (I mean, before GWB changed his accusation from "possessing weapons of mass destruction" to "having WMD programs"), have been rather easy to find. If he had really only had a few vials... well, that wouldn't have been sufficient cause to invade, now would it?
Sean
The US gave them the technology for missiles and the germ and gas WMD decades ago. The proof as I have heard some joke, the US simply kept the reciepts. The US has benefitted from providing weapons for wars in Iraq and Afganistan. The US provided weapons to Afganistan to fight the Soviets and to Iraq to fight Iran. That is a lot of blood on our hands as Americans and I wish people were not so shortsighted about it. I hear my friends say these terrorists simply hate us because the US is a successful world power, but they miss the point that these people have suffered greatly because of US policy to do whatever necessary to protect our monetary interests. The US will have to learn the peace should be the top US interest.
Brennan Stehling - http://brennan.offwhite.net/blog/
They promised a good video game. What they delivered was a some sort of psychological test designed to induce rage and annoyance in vast quantities.
--- Ban humanity.
Vaporware of the year... The 2.6 kernel. All the talk was that it was going to come out this year; and that was as far back as march of LAST year. I definately understand pushing it off -- alot is riding on it (or will). Then again, maybe longhorn has it beat
Screw that, I am waiting for Team Fortress 2.
My friends rpg project that now else else but them know about.
Or was that last year? The linux based Gaming OS... not that there isnt one if you count the xbox :)
Wasnt there something called Phantom too?
I'm still waiting on that new super Amiga that all the Amiga faithful tell me is right around the corner. They claim it will revolutionize the computing industry. [rolls eyes]
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There is a very simple explanation of why Saddam Hussein would have played the games he did with the UN weapon's inspectors and allowed the world to continue to think that he had developed WMD, when in fact he may have had none in any militarily significant quantities.
Any poker player could recognize the situation he was in. Saddam played what he thought was a very strong hand 12 years previously, anted up in a big way, and was called by US-led coalition forces. Now, he's stuck in the same game, with a much weaker hand, facing a very strong one, and he can't just fold. What would a poker player do? Bluff, of course!
The most reasonable explanation I have been able to develop was that Saddam was trying to bluff his way out of a untenable situation. He cared not one whit about "bloodying America's nose", or being "seen as a martyr". He only cared about surviving an invasion by the US and maintaining his hold on power, in that order. The best way to survive an invasion is to prevent it from occurring in the first place.
If I were Saddam in 2001, I too would have postured that I had WMD, and the wherewithal to use them (established many years previously when he gassed his own population and the Iranians), in the hopes that that would change the equation for the US strategic planners. (For recent evidence of the effectiveness of this strategy, I give you North Korea.)
The facts that
(1) the Bush administration put our troops on the ground and went ahead with it's plans for invasion and
(2) Saddam did *not* use WMD in a last ditch defense even when he showed no restraint in the past
indicates to me that the simplest and most likely explanation is that not only did Iraq NOT have WMD in any militarily significant quantities, but our government knew that to be true, even when they were positing the opposite.
I have heard every whacked out theory on Saddam and the WMD, and some well thought out, but very convoluted ones, but surprisingly, never ONCE have I heard this very simple bluffing explanation put forth in the media. How can it be that no official "analyst" has thought of it?
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When DNF is finally released, you'll be required to run it on a video card from these guys.
If you gonna mention Half-life 2, you might as well remember the single player version of "Enemy Territory" that had the plug pulled on it. I am glad they gave us the free multiplayer version, but the single-player campaign would've been awesome!
I hope this will remain vaporware at least as long as GNU/Hurd ;-)
Stefan
...could be had by examining the pages for a year's worth of Wired, and at the end of the year, trying to find those things in a store. Wired has made a bad habit of advertising vaporware for companies that want to test the market and see how many inquiries they get. Of course, Wired never comes out and tells you such-and-such isn't really being made and sold. They write them all up as if they exist. You'd think that'd be strange behavior for a magazine that carries an annual vaporware contest, but hey, it's Wired. They only have to be cool, not sensical.
"I may be synthetic, but I'm not stupid." -- Bishop 341-B
Well, it's not thier fault, but it is vaporware for 2003. We'll probably have to wait until Q1 or the latest Q2 for it to come out.
Dennis Murphy wrote, "Once again, Duke Nukem Forever is the definitive vaporware. Hell, even Warcraft III made it out this year. You know, I think I'm going to set up a script to submit Duke Nukem Forever every year."
It is time, my brothers. Has anyone written a script?
7 out of 10 so-called 2002 vaporware award winner materialized and were quite successful. For example one near and dear to many of us, the Linux NeverWinterNights client was voted vaporware in 2002, as was ShadowBane.
errr....umm...*whooosh* *whoosh* Is this thing on ?
I can't tell you how many times I've called a company and they direct me to a lame ass digital receptionist.
Voice recognition was supposed to be the next big thing, but it doesn't work.
What's the difference between weapons of mass destruction and mass weapons of destruction?
If it wasn't for the seemingly unlimited billions (but not actually unlimited billions -- we gotta pay the deficit back, remember?) we keep throwing at it, this pork-barrel program would have been deep-sixed after the first feasability studies. Fifteen years is a lot of vapor.
Arch hawk Richard Perle has admitted that the invasion was illegal under international law.
Perle : "I think in this case international law stood in the way of doing the right thing."
And on this (and this alone!) I agree with him - the invasion was illegal. The question is whether it was the right thing to do, and it is still far from clear what the answer to that question is.
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So many opportunities, so promising, where are the applications?
"International law" conflicts with the Constitution of the United States. If you put "international law" ahead of Constitutional Law, you are either un-American or commiting treason.
Well, regardless of whether what you say is true or not I have no problem with being "un-american" because, duh, I'm not a US citizen. Interesting argument you make, though I've never heard any of the hawks use this as a justification.
Sorry, I just realised I misunderstood your comment. You weren't accusing me of being un-american or committing treason, you were accusing Richard Perle. Sorry about the confusion.
A /. poster who read TFA.
Drill baby drill - on Mars
Microsoft DOJ Consent Decree Compliance 1.0
Microsoft DOJ Consent Decree Compliance 2.0
The best part is that MS was able to sell people the 2.0 version after many years of the version 1.0 vapor.
So how many people will pre-order MS DOJ Consent Decree XP?
__ Someday, but not this morning, I'll finally learn to use the preview button.
All the buzz and ads keep promising, but no one delivers.
i'm still waiting for buckaroo against the world crime league....
I was gonng say that using quotes wouldn't give you a single hit. But give it a little while and guess what?
Great.
rabs
I nominate every single product on previous years list, unless it has been removed from upcoming product list or has actually been released.
No new product can overcome an old vaporware product, unless you add a marketinghype factor.
While I agree with many that Duke Nuke'em Forever, and Doom III, must be on the list of this year's Best Vaporware, and disagree the Longhorn should be on it since Longhorn wasn't promised for this year, the absolute number 1 piece of vaporware for the must be:
SCO License for IP in Linux
I mean, come on. SCO hasn't only promised repeatedly that it would be *required* for businesses running Linux, but they've threatened to *sue* any Linux using business that didn't buy one.
Not only has the license not materialized, they're *still* threatening to sue someone who doesn't buy it within 90 days. Yep, you read that right, they're threatening to sue someone who hasn't bought a license that they don't sell. Oh, they won't say who it will be yet either. Vaporsuit, vaporinfringement, vaporinfringer, vaporlicense: VAPORWARE!
The absolute King of Vapor for the year 2003. No contest.
I once read about a full sensor suit attached to a very life-like virtual reality simulator. The point of the machine - an incredibly realistic simulation of sex, with anyone you want. I cannot even comprehend how much money this device would make - given the consensus in this discussion, I believe this device has the potential to completely shut down the world economy. No matter how morally righteous you believe yourself to be, would you really ever leave your house again?
Come on guys, TF2 got 4th place last year! It's right up there with DNF.
Now I'm just waiting for Valve to announce another developer for Counterstrike: Condition Zero. It's already had Rogue, Gearbox, Ritual, and now Turtle Rock Studios. Maybe they'll let Splashdamage have a crack at it next.
No one is excited about the Phantom.
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If I nominate about half of the projects on Sourceforge?
To celebrate the occasion of my 1000th post, I will post no more forever on Slashdot. Goodbye.
Hey, did that "Gigli" movie ever come out? I'd say that would definitely win.
Congratulations.
You managed to drag a whole threat OT and we all get to read each others "I am smarter than you because I am making judgements 'of facts' based on what other people have said (media, etc.)."
1) It is all Off TOPIC
2) BOTH sides are so full of crap and repeating "facts" they don't know.
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If ever there was a candidate among the products of the US Congress, it would have to be the Can-Spam legislation. Even the name is suggestive - they want make it so that corporations and traditional marketing organizations "can spam". If ever there was a product that will produce nothing to relieve email users, this is it.
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How many times do you hear of a "medical breakthrough" that requires more research but will lead to treatments in, perhaps, 10 years. That 10 year figure gets trotted out a lot.
One of these days I'm moving to Theory - everything works there
The terrorists hate us because Westerners refuse to acknowledge that Mohammed is the Prophet of God, and that the Koran is His word. That's the simple facts, and everything else flows from that. Sorry that it's not a complicated explanation, and sorry that it doesn't make it convenient to blame the Fortune 500 or the Pentagon.
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Been waiting on this one forever. Judging by the progress report it's still a fair way off.
Does anyone even bother to read the articles anymore or do they just hit reply and copy/paste the Iraq/US/France shit that they post every day. Comeon peeps grow up a little.
Anyway, to the subject, whatever happened to Duke Nukem Forever? The original release date was 1999!
Either way, if it were my country I'd be doing my best to ensure such people were removed from office at the earliest opportunity.
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a rigged demo
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Yeah, neither do I...
*Getting* from the Muslim world to the West was no trivial - or inexpensive - matter before 1971 (an age of expensive air travel - and before that, none at all). So was maintaining communications amongst cells of saboteurs and murderers. And the the vast monetary resources which increased oil prices provided to the Wahabis after 1971 are one of the reasons why Islamic terrorism is feasible at all - plastic explosive ain't cheap.
Islamic religious warfare against Western powers certainly existed before the 1970s. The Nazis tried with some success to stir up jihad against the British in Iraq during the Second World War. The Mahdi waged religious war against the Gordon and Kitchener in Africa a few decades before that, and the Sepoy Mutiny was earlier in the same century.
Before the nineteenth century, there were actual non-Turkish Muslim powers. The Barbary states kidnapped and enslaved thousands of Christians as galley slaves, and waged piracy on Western shipping. You could call that "terrorism" as well; it was certainly religiously motivated.
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Step 1. Moderate 50 completely offtopic posts as "Informative".
Too bad I can't buy this guy a one way ticket to Saddam's Iraq. Or, because I know he can't resist, a ticket to the Soviet Union that aided Iran and forced us into funding Saddam back then. How about Hitler's Europe.
Probably wants to bid on the American funded projects in Iraq too. Fucking ingrate.
He did the same thing with his airforce in Gulf 1. Except he made the idiotic choice of sending the plans to Iran. They still have them I think.
Thats crazy! What makes you believe that?
Are you aware that the iranians absolutely hate Saddam, he started a incredibly bloody (~1M dead) war of aggression against Iran, and you'll be hard pressed to find an iranian who hasn't lost some family member to that war...
Iran ever helping Saddam after that is as likely as the US helping out Osama Bin Laden (post 9/11-01 that is).
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Take the most obscure scenario possible: You're an Iraqi assigned to man an "illegal" SCUD armed with weaponized Anthrax. Your army has been defeated and you're out of a job. If you were willing to cooperate with the victors but afraid to do so what would be easier; confessing knowledge of some now-useless machine that many others know about, or ratting out the deposed dictator who might come back to kill your familly. Of course, that presumes you're privy to knowing where the renagade dictator is, but that's my point. There have got to be many more people who know where these mystery weapons were compared to those who knew Hussein's whereabouts after the fall of Baghdad, and it's got to be easier for those people to speak out over an oil drum than for a familly member to rat out a sentient, murderous moving target.
Next dork that would ask you to explain Iraqi WMDs? We're not talking about the Flat Earth Society. We're talking about something that has claimed 400 American lives, 2000+ GI limbs, and a shitload of $$$ at a time when the economy has been shedding jobs like mad. If you want to be that flip you could at least take the time to explain how and why a power loving war monger like Hussein would auto-disarm because he's about to be overthrown.
Want to challenge your
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To add a bit to your point I'd like to note that just because Hussein was a murderous dick-head it doesn't mean he was incapable of pragmatism. I don't think he would have abandoned WMDs if they were easy for him to have fabricated, but given his military limitations, I think his post Gulf War modus operandi was to simply rule Iraq with an iron hand. He had already waged one ultimately fruitless war against Iran and had been roundly defeated when he made a stab at the sea in Kuwait. His post 9/11 reaction was consistent with someone who enjoyed "schadenfreude" from the sidelines -- just like his $25K bonuses to Palestinian suicide dorks -- because he knew he just didn't have a chance duking it out with the big boys. In short, however much he might have liked to be the Arabic Stalin, he just couldn't play it out beyond his own borders and he knew it. We could have let this guy rot on the throne. He's in his mid-60's. 20 years max and he would have been gone. That's at least how long it will take for the American-Iraq war to be absorbed into world history anyway.