> Ever thought that this was a spoiler put out by QNX since they lost the contract?
What on earth is your logic behind this theory? Can you name any reason that a company would knowingly engage in fraud (which that would be if they knew they didn't have the contract), for one, or trumpet their losing a contract? "We put 40 top engineers on this and we still lost the contract, so THERE, Amiga."
Even raving comspiracy nuts usually use SOME form of twisted logic.
That reminds me, my boss' PII/266 running NT Workstation hardlocked the other day trying to copy a file from a floppy with badblocks.;)
I know circular links in a ext2 floppy would cause a lovely hard-lock in Linux. I think the problem under NT is related. This should be fixed in one of the service packs.
Hey man, what kind of slashdotter are you? You're supposed to latch onto one OS and one intellectual property philosophy, march lockstep with its dogma, and stridently pontificate on its virtues to the exclusion of all others to anyone who will listen.
> It's too bad Sun seems to have given up on Unix in many respects.
What on god's green earth are you talking about? Sun is the only major commercial Unix vendor left that does not have a strategic partnership with Microsoft. That alone should tell you something about their faith in their Unix-based products.
Spring was a research project, never meant to go into full production. Some ideas from Spring almost certainly infected other products, and the doors API (basically a fast local RPC) came out of Spring into Solaris. There's also an implementation of doors for Linux, no word on how fast/stable/featured it actually is. I know from watching truss output that doors are used extensively in Solaris.
A peek perhaps? I mean if you're going to plagarize a headline almost verbatim, you could at least spell it right to. I tried to look for the headline-style pun, but could only draw conclusions about sloppy editing.
> "Abortion is a service subsidized bo local, national governments"? Man, where do you get your news from? It's *ILLEGAL* for the national government to subsidize abortion.
Well, aside from the known fact that he was named for the reel of film he appeared on, the other explanation is that R2D2 was simply the designation for his class (Repair), and he was unit D2 on that ship (since A New Hope does refer to "R2 units" in general).
Going a little deeper and probably off the deep end, it would seem they were designed to deliberately be non-anthropomorphic, to have less interaction with humans and more with machines. They likely learned through interaction, and didn't want them getting cluttered up with social interaction routines -- thus no human comprehensible audible language. R2D2 got put around more humans than normal and thus learned to mimic some human expression.
That's the hindsight angle. Really he was just a cute squeaking sidekick named after the reel of film he was introduced on (then likely re-written to be put in on the first)
Makes plenty of sense to me. Send the Jedi off in an unmarked ship. Arrange to have a diplomatic vessel along the way. Senate doesn't know you sent muscle as ambassadors, Federation thinks your enforcers are the ambassadors.
I mean there were plenty of other glaring inconsistencies, but that wasn't one. I for one was just disappointed in the really poor character development. Darth Maul looked sounded like one bitter dude "At last we reveal ourselves to the Jedi. At last we will have revenge", but beyond that he did not get ONE SINGLE LINE, aside from some "yes master" nonsense. Like Brin said, a little speechifying while those forcefields were up, even some vague allusion to some blot on the Jedi's morality would have lent some depth to this character before he was sliced by Obi-Wan. Something to make people chew on before the next movie.
GL has gotten much sloppier. He doesn't even have to try anymore, he knows millions of fandroids will flock to the next SW even if it's two hours of still shots of gungan droppings.
I imagine TCP, which is also crufty and largely ineffective at stopping sequence number attacks and the like, is also being upgraded? Is it going to be a higher-level protocol, an extension header on IPv6 packets, or are they just going to have plain old TCP wrapping IPv6 packets instead?
> Thanks. Any info about why they decided to use ':' instead of the trusty '.'?
Because the similarity to MAC addresses is no accident: The idea is that you get your own network instead of IP address, and individual addresses are as easy as tacking on the MAC address to that. It's already unique at that point even without the network part (theoretically, MAC collisions can and do happen occasionally) but the rest of the address is a routing hint, you don't want to keep a flat ARP cache for the whole damn internet after all.
Also because now that they can contain letters (A-F anyhow) it would be harder to distinguish them from names, which will probably still use dots at least as long as we continue to use DNS (I really don't see anyone pronouncing an X.500 address on the radio).
Yes, and anything that's twice as fast will STILL BE TWICE AS FAST. Citing Moore's so-called "law" is a lame cop-out I would expect from marketroids, not a geek who actually takes pride in having good code.
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Please report to your regeneration creche for your humor upgrade.
Ahem. No X I have seen ever uses TCP/IP locally. It uses a unix socket or even shared memory. It's the fact that widgets aren't representable in the X protocol and have to be drawn naively that causes some of the more major slowdowns (not to mention bloat).
Just a thought..i can't think of one sexual act that is more abhorrent than the thought of getting my head blown off with an uzi or my guts knifed out and yet i can see this each night on prime time TV..any suggestions
Sex acts with your prime minister?
Suddenly an uzi to your head looks rightly preferable, dont it?
> (a) MS developed DOS ? IBM did and (regrettably) passed development over the MS in 88 or something.
IBM, with all its expertise, somehow couldn't find anyone who knew anything about small-footprint operating systems at all, so they got Micro-Soft, a compiler vendor with no OS development experience at all to pick one out for them. MS picked a hacked-up piece of crap called QDOS, handed it over to IBM, with the stipulation that MS be allowed to develop their own version in the future. IBM agreed.
Sad thing is, not much else would have run with any acceptable performance, given the corners cut on the hardware. But then it wouldn't have been affordable, Apple would have annihilated the PC makers, and it would be Steve Jobs in front of a judge now.
> But why not have ip-up and ip-down set a variable to ONLINE and OFFLINE?
Because tripping over the phone cord and yanking it out does not call ip-down, that's why. In any case there IS a program that will notify a process when an interface goes down, but I forgot what it is. It also appears to need a separate instance of this process for every program that wants to watch the interface status.
> KDE already works pretty good on lesser known *nixes, such as SC0, AIX, or *BSD.
And *ahem* Solaris. It's picking up a bit of popularity here at Sun actually, but it's a long way off from replacing the well-entrenched CDE. Here's my immediate impresson of why:
1. Inertia, retraining, ego. Things KDE can't do a whole lot about. Not a small item, and will be a major inhibiting factor even if KDE were superior in *every* respect.
2. KDE does not support multiheaded displays. Many apps like kwm act strangely when started on a second display. Alt-F2 on any display still uses the first display.
3. No IMAP support in kmail. kmail also doesn't perform any kind of locking as far as I can tell, and isn't mailx compliant. dtmail, the standard CDE mail program, which replaces mailtool (sadly) is klunky beyond belief but is reasonably powerful. IMAP is an absolute must. vcard and LDAP support will probably soon be requirements as well.
4. A calendar that supports CDE's dtcal standard and takes attachments dragged out of kmail onto the calendar icon. Do one better than CDE by giving some actual feedback when it's dropped, and not just silently dropping appointments if the calendar isn't running (which amazingly, is what happens now)
5. Preferred web browser support. Solaris 2.7 has a one-click web-browser icon on the panel (the funky looking globe clock). It will launch either netscape or hotjava, using the equivalent of netscape-wrapper for both, in that it will not launch new processes if one exists, just open new windows.
Oh, and KDE compiles just fine with devpro, which is what cc is on my system.
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> Ever thought that this was a spoiler put out by QNX since they lost the contract?
What on earth is your logic behind this theory? Can you name any reason that a company would knowingly engage in fraud (which that would be if they knew they didn't have the contract), for one, or trumpet their losing a contract? "We put 40 top engineers on this and we still lost the contract, so THERE, Amiga."
Even raving comspiracy nuts usually use SOME form of twisted logic.
I know circular links in a ext2 floppy would cause a lovely hard-lock in Linux. I think the problem under NT is related. This should be fixed in one of the service packs.
So maybe there's hope for destroying Microsoft after all :)
[/usr/src/linux]# make vmlinux ...
... spammage
[/usr/src/linux]# ls -al vmlinux
-rwxrwxr-x 1 root root 1278562 Jul 8 17:11 vmlinux
That's a very much modular kernel too without any extra gunk my hardware doesn't support, or things I don't use, like routers. That aint tiny either.
Hey man, what kind of slashdotter are you? You're supposed to latch onto one OS and one intellectual property philosophy, march lockstep with its dogma, and stridently pontificate on its virtues to the exclusion of all others to anyone who will listen.
:)
Now get in line.
> It's too bad Sun seems to have given up on Unix in many respects.
What on god's green earth are you talking about? Sun is the only major commercial Unix vendor left that does not have a strategic partnership with Microsoft. That alone should tell you something about their faith in their Unix-based products.
Spring was a research project, never meant to go into full production. Some ideas from Spring almost certainly infected other products, and the doors API (basically a fast local RPC) came out of Spring into Solaris. There's also an implementation of doors for Linux, no word on how fast/stable/featured it actually is. I know from watching truss output that doors are used extensively in Solaris.
I'll be the first to point out that I typoed the word "too". This is an example of proofreading. Thank you.
A peek perhaps? I mean if you're going to plagarize a headline almost verbatim, you could at least spell it right to. I tried to look for the headline-style pun, but could only draw conclusions about sloppy editing.
> "Abortion is a service subsidized bo local, national governments"? Man, where do you get your news from? It's *ILLEGAL* for the national government to subsidize abortion.
Poppycock
Balderdash
Kerfuffle
Wow way to rebut those points without having to descend to use of logic, counterpoint, or counterexample.
> So why is R2D2's serial number so short?
Well, aside from the known fact that he was named for the reel of film he appeared on, the other explanation is that R2D2 was simply the designation for his class (Repair), and he was unit D2 on that ship (since A New Hope does refer to "R2 units" in general).
Going a little deeper and probably off the deep end, it would seem they were designed to deliberately be non-anthropomorphic, to have less interaction with humans and more with machines. They likely learned through interaction, and didn't want them getting cluttered up with social interaction routines -- thus no human comprehensible audible language. R2D2 got put around more humans than normal and thus learned to mimic some human expression.
That's the hindsight angle. Really he was just a cute squeaking sidekick named after the reel of film he was introduced on (then likely re-written to be put in on the first)
Makes plenty of sense to me. Send the Jedi off in an unmarked ship. Arrange to have a diplomatic vessel along the way. Senate doesn't know you sent muscle as ambassadors, Federation thinks your enforcers are the ambassadors.
I mean there were plenty of other glaring inconsistencies, but that wasn't one. I for one was just disappointed in the really poor character development. Darth Maul looked sounded like one bitter dude "At last we reveal ourselves to the Jedi. At last we will have revenge", but beyond that he did not get ONE SINGLE LINE, aside from some "yes master" nonsense. Like Brin said, a little speechifying while those forcefields were up, even some vague allusion to some blot on the Jedi's morality would have lent some depth to this character before he was sliced by Obi-Wan. Something to make people chew on before the next movie.
GL has gotten much sloppier. He doesn't even have to try anymore, he knows millions of fandroids will flock to the next SW even if it's two hours of still shots of gungan droppings.
I imagine TCP, which is also crufty and largely ineffective at stopping sequence number attacks and the like, is also being upgraded? Is it going to be a higher-level protocol, an extension header on IPv6 packets, or are they just going to have plain old TCP wrapping IPv6 packets instead?
> Thanks. Any info about why they decided to use ':' instead of the trusty '.'?
Because the similarity to MAC addresses is no accident: The idea is that you get your own network instead of IP address, and individual addresses are as easy as tacking on the MAC address to that. It's already unique at that point even without the network part (theoretically, MAC collisions can and do happen occasionally) but the rest of the address is a routing hint, you don't want to keep a flat ARP cache for the whole damn internet after all.
Also because now that they can contain letters (A-F anyhow) it would be harder to distinguish them from names, which will probably still use dots at least as long as we continue to use DNS (I really don't see anyone pronouncing an X.500 address on the radio).
The dtcal standard should be documented somewhere, since the calendar sync for pilotmgr will sync CDE calendars. Try looking there.
Yes, and anything that's twice as fast will STILL BE TWICE AS FAST. Citing Moore's so-called "law" is a lame cop-out I would expect from marketroids, not a geek who actually takes pride in having good code.
Please report to your regeneration creche for your humor upgrade.
Ahem. No X I have seen ever uses TCP/IP locally. It uses a unix socket or even shared memory. It's the fact that widgets aren't representable in the X protocol and have to be drawn naively that causes some of the more major slowdowns (not to mention bloat).
Sex acts with your prime minister?
Suddenly an uzi to your head looks rightly preferable, dont it?
Yeah uh. oh you're an AC. not worth the time.
Rob, I think "coward" has lost its impact. How about Anonymous Waste Of Time?
No, you're just one of the annoying ones who pontificates upon this fact. Go back to your starbucks and microbrews, "drug-free" boy.
> (a) MS developed DOS ? IBM did and (regrettably) passed development over the MS in 88 or something.
IBM, with all its expertise, somehow couldn't find anyone who knew anything about small-footprint operating systems at all, so they got Micro-Soft, a compiler vendor with no OS development experience at all to pick one out for them. MS picked a hacked-up piece of crap called QDOS, handed it over to IBM, with the stipulation that MS be allowed to develop their own version in the future. IBM agreed.
Sad thing is, not much else would have run with any acceptable performance, given the corners cut on the hardware. But then it wouldn't have been affordable, Apple would have annihilated the PC makers, and it would be Steve Jobs in front of a judge now.
> But why not have ip-up and ip-down set a variable to ONLINE and OFFLINE?
Because tripping over the phone cord and yanking it out does not call ip-down, that's why. In any case there IS a program that will notify a process when an interface goes down, but I forgot what it is. It also appears to need a separate instance of this process for every program that wants to watch the interface status.
> KDE already works pretty good on lesser known *nixes, such as SC0, AIX, or *BSD.
And *ahem* Solaris. It's picking up a bit of popularity here at Sun actually, but it's a long way off from replacing the well-entrenched CDE. Here's my immediate impresson of why:
1. Inertia, retraining, ego. Things KDE can't do a whole lot about. Not a small item, and will be a major inhibiting factor even if KDE were superior in *every* respect.
2. KDE does not support multiheaded displays. Many apps like kwm act strangely when started on a second display. Alt-F2 on any display still uses the first display.
3. No IMAP support in kmail. kmail also doesn't perform any kind of locking as far as I can tell, and isn't mailx compliant. dtmail, the standard CDE mail program, which replaces mailtool (sadly) is klunky beyond belief but is reasonably powerful. IMAP is an absolute must. vcard and LDAP support will probably soon be requirements as well.
4. A calendar that supports CDE's dtcal standard and takes attachments dragged out of kmail onto the calendar icon. Do one better than CDE by giving some actual feedback when it's dropped, and not just silently dropping appointments if the calendar isn't running (which amazingly, is what happens now)
5. Preferred web browser support. Solaris 2.7 has a one-click web-browser icon on the panel (the funky looking globe clock). It will launch either netscape or hotjava, using the equivalent of netscape-wrapper for both, in that it will not launch new processes if one exists, just open new windows.
Oh, and KDE compiles just fine with devpro, which is what cc is on my system.