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KDE 1.1.1 is out
Well, the title says all - a new version of KDE is out with many bugs fixed,
better stability, and imporved internet connectivity. Here is the press release and the changelog
. You can download the files here (people with Redhat 6.0 Please check this doc). I hope that Linuxberg will have those files really quick.
Well, my friend, are you trying to start more flaming ???
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Gnome is more than the desktop project (wich are really good - in my onpinon).
take a look at www.gnome.org, read it and you maybe will change opinon.
And, listen to these KDE speaks and Gnome speaks that was on Open Networks 99 this weekend. THAT will probobly change your opinon.
http://on99.dk.net/on99/nettv.html
(please take it easy with it - am not sure that the server can handle the
Wonderful to see the KDE-team focus on stability and compatibility instead of new features in this release.
Does anyone know what they will focus on for the next release? Any special features or?
/Tord
Anyone know if SuSE 6.1, which is released today (the English version, anyway), will or will not incorporate these changes?
.iso CD image of SuSE? The only thing on their ftp site is an "evaluation version" of v6.0.
On a related note, where can we get the
Check your Cookies setup in the KFM Configuration.
Kudos. I am running KDE 1.1 on OpenBSD and Linux and for me KDE with the mac theme is good project almost missing my days with old PowerMac 8-D
I was able to log into both...
...people don't upgrade software for stability. they do it for features.
Yup, just like the Linux kernel 2.2.x and Gnome 1.0.x.
Reportedly, my ass. I recently read a message encouraging a developer to use the GPL on the kde-develop list.
Right now the solution is to get a distribution like Caldera OpenLinux or the upcoming Corel Linux distribution where Qt is part of the core system libs.
According to these comments, RH puts things into wherever its packagers see fit. This leads me to two questions: 1) Are there other distros, like Debian or SuSE, that put KDE where its developers intend it to go into? 2) Is this dir shuffling happening in many places in RH? Such shuffling will make it hard for newbies (like myself) to learn administration, with the translating between the theory (HOWTOs) and practice (what's on my disk).
Exactly. KDE 2.0 is / will be a major milestone.
There have been a number of things written in
stone about what will be in the release, and
anything less will not be called KDE 2.0.
I just hope that they add KDE/GNOME interoperability (and a single WM-compliance spec).
Oh, and add to the WM thingy... allow for the
menus to be handled entirely by the window manager
(at its option) and then use the Window manager
for doing things like MacOS menus (rather than
the current method, which at best is a fudge)
Before you shoot your mouth off, why don't you find out where Red Hat actually places the files? Red Hat is trying to follow the FHS and yet people still flame them for following the standard.
KFM in KDE 1.1 had cookies enabled by default, atleast it did for me.
Thanks for the advice. As far as I know,
the developers are aware of all the problems
I mentioned, since these issues were raised
several times in the kde mailing lists.
Hari.
If you don't care about KDE, Gnome, etc., just use the Slashdot filter capability.
Since the gnome .desktop files are based on the KDE .kdelnk files with minor semantic changes, the KDE folks are working on unifying to one file format.
I tried of Caldera OpenLinux 2.2 with KDE this weekend and strangely a lot of the speed issues seem to disappear with KDE. It used to be really bad under Mandrake Linux but with the same hardware under OnenLinux 2.2, it is quite snappy. I don't know why this is so...maybe the newer kernel?
What makes you think you have to upgrade to the latest and greatest? If thinks work for you then don't change them unless you want to and have the time.
There is no reason why Open Source software can't issue a press release that is every bit as professional as those issued for closed source software. RH, Caldera all use the the standard press release format so why can't KDE. Methinks some kind of envy is at work here. Developers get the juice from lists but reporters etc, get it from press releases. Get over it.
okay, i think /opt/kde or /usr/kde is actually nicer.
They released 1.1.1 april 24 (or 26) if i'm not wrong (yes, this day i just see 1.1.1 at the ftp site and a release notes at the homepage). Why they removed this? I don't know. I'm running 1.1.1pre1 since april 19 and it's very stable.
I enjoyed reading this post because reading other posts in this topic :p
or just hearing peoples reactions confusion can happen, it did for me
KDE 1.1.1 release with fixes is hopefully just as stable as KDE 1.1
KDE 1.1 was recently installed at several machines at a local computer club. Thanks Duncan ~{:D
Doh! You probably should of logged in anonymously if you are going to make posts without knowing about the software...
eg gnome-panel apps could plug into kpanel and vice versa...
:o(
Any application can dock itself into the kpanel, by simpling setting some WM Hint. kpanel will resize the application to fit into it and everything is fine.
Gnome's panel however is rather picky about applets that want to be docked. I couldn't find any way to dock an applet without using Gtk and gnome libs
Any hint?
Does RH install the symbolic links so that programs written to KDE see the directory tree they are expecting?
No, 1.1.1 was released in april 24 or 26 and i announced this at freshmeat.net. But they removed the tarballs from the ftp site and the release notes from the homepage. I'm sure that they released this but i don't know wtf they removed it (maybe for fixing some stuff). Ah, and i don't know what changed since the 1.1.1pre1. A changelog 1.1.1pre1-1.1.1 ould be useful for me.
I'm using 1.1.1pre1 since april 18 and 1.1.1pre2 shipped with RedHat 6.0 was built before KDE released 1.1.1pre1. So, 1.1.1pre2 is what?
You should wait for the windoze version of q3. The kernel keeps crahsing and windows at least has some protection agaisnt this.
The directory structure is irrelevant, you just have to change the line one gives to apt. For example, if the files are in ftp://kde.org/pub/debian/, then just add the line: ./ /etc/apt/sources.list.
/home/ftp/pub/debian /dev/null >/home/ftp/pub/debian/Packages; gzip -9 /home/ftp/pub/debian/Packages. If you want to get spiffy, you could actually create an override file specifying that all the packages were in, say, section KDE, and create appropriate priority levels for each package; see the dpkg-scanpackages man page.
deb ftp://kde.org/pub/debian
to
As to making the Packages.gz file, the tool is dpkg-scanpackages. The most basic thing would be to do something like dpkg-scanpackages
Hehe. It's like Gnome 1.0.0. They released it and after some hours just deleted all the stuff. Oh, and the release notes... next time i'll make a copy of this. But if you download 1.1.1 and after it look again at the ftp site and the dir is empty... it's not good for us. You never know what's wrong with these tarballs. I really like KDE but...
Troll Tech isn't developing Opera for Linux? :)
Oh, you like one version by year? KDE released 1.0, 1.1 and 1.1.1 in one year. GNOME released 1000 versions in one year (and all very buggy. 1.0.x not much but... KDE is more stable!).
Thank you very much for the tip. I shall
try out kexplorer!
Hari.
I seriously doubt your kernel is locking up. It's probably X that's locking up. In which case, if you're running Linux 2.2, you can get back to a console and kill X with ctrl-alt-sys req. You can also telnet into your box and kill X.
I think that MS has done The Right Thing (TM) (I've always wanted to use that) by having applications check each other for dependencies. All MS system programs install by default in one section. RPM should have a header for system programs and not allow them to be installed anywhere else except the correct directory. Sure choice is nice, but the damn thing working is nicer.
My last note about this. I think that when you put files at the ftp and you have access to, they are files for the end user. It's a KDE fault, and it was a GNOME fault when they released GNOME 1.0.0 and deleted it and a NETSCAPE fault when they released NETSCAPE 4.51 and deleted it. I search for new stuff all the time and sometimes announce it at freshmeat.net. It's not my fault if these guys like to put new versions (maybe buggy) and just delete it after some hours.
KDE == good
Quake == sucks
---> Quake fucked up your kernel, not KDE.
Q3 is what you should be looking at.
Mozilla's is a mess
this is only a minor release, nothing earth shattering right? this is not freshmeat.net .. can you not post these things? we all know as well how touchy people get about kde and gnome, no need to bring it up unnecessarily %)
Like my fellow AC, I would like to congratulate the KDE team on their excellent work on building the best and most stable Desktop Environment for X.
I think that CmdrTaco etc. should put aside their personal preferences for Gnome and treat KDE in a fair and just manner. Nobody is asking them to use KDE only to acknowledge the excellent piece of software that it is. If they are going to inform us of every Gnome pre release, they should also post all of the KDE releases too. For /. to continue to thrive, it must not be subjective in its coverage of free/open source projects.
I think I'm going to uninstall the RH6.0 KDE distro and install the KDE RPM'd 1.1.1. That way I know I won't have upgrade hassles and maybe I can finally use some the freely distributable KDE applications that won't compile/install with RH 6.0
(KPackage, KPackViewer, KvIRC, KeIRC, KsIRC, Kicq, the list is long)
First of, all check out the changelog because most of the changes to KFM have been listed there.
Secondly, if the problems are still there, go to bugs.kde.org and report them if necessary. This is important because KDE developers do not monitor Slashdot for bug reports.
As a user, your input is valuable, especially as this is an Open Source project. However, it would be good if you meet the developers half-way.
-N.
The style of the press release makes me feel (unfairly) negative towards the product.
If they want to sound self mocking they need to strengthen it a bit ("the most significant development since the dawn of civilization" would be better).
I think I'm so used to this stuff from big business that I tend to tune it out and just feel slightly nauseous, but when you're not expecting it (as in this case) it's quite sickening.
Please send me instruction how to produce the
required packages.gz.
Regards,
--martin
Hi,
Does anybody know if they have fixed the following
problems which a lot of folks experienced with
kde 1.1?
1) When kfm is used, X keeps taking up more and
more RAM until all of it is used up, the system
then starts swapping and everything slows down
to molasses.
2) On at least some systems, KFM filemanager is
really slow, even slower than script-based
filemanagers like tkdesk.
3) It appears that kfm does not have access to
a lot of the fonts that are available. For example, on my system, it accesses only 2
`fixed' fonts. Furthermore, it keeps breaking
even short filenames into two or more lines,
which makes the whole thing look ugly. I'm sure
that I have used the Kfontmanager correctly to
make the fonts available to KDE, so that is not
the problem.
I have seen these problems mentioned in
newsgroups/mailing lists by other users, but
have not seen any fixes posted yet. If anyone
knows how to work around these bugs, I would
appreciate it.
Thanks,
Hari.
mailto:gharikumar@iname.com
Nice to see the debian packages in there, but could they include a Packages.gz and structure the directory (even sym link it) so that I can add a line in my apt/sources.list. - Any way keep up the great work KDE team.
KDE is one of the largest, most active and most successful open source projects. We owe a lot to those guys (any gals?).
There is tentative talk about GNOME compatibility/convergence, which is excellent.
Interesting thing about KDE is that it is now entering uncharted waters - the "chasing taillights" days are past them and the team is now doing new, innovative things, which tends to be the exception with open source projects.
I've lurked on the KDE mailing lists for some time. The development team is quite upset about the bad rap they get at slashdot and other such forums. This is really unfortunate. These are great people quietly doing great things. Be generous, hey?
Hi
o n/rpm
I ( duncan@kde.org) *AM* the packager of the KDE-1.1.1 RPM Packages for RedHat 4.2, 5.0. 5.1., 5.2 systems, that are currently available for your enjoyment at :
ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/1.1.1/distributi
These packages are in the series produced by the independent (NOT RedHat-affiliated) redhat-rpm section of the KDE Packagers during the long period when Red Hat felt that KDE was not suitable for their distribution.
We aimed to provide a simple clean installation of KDE on top of a standard RedHat 4.2, 5.0, 5.2,and 5.2 system, and still support theses systems.
Our goal was to give the user an installation that did all the configuration necessary, with the minimum modification of RedHat's own setup. Judging by user feedback, and reviews contrasting KDE's installation (on RedHat) to that of e.g., gnome-1.0, I think we at least partly succeded.
KDE-1.1.1 is a "minor" (bugfix) release cleaning up little things that weren't quite right in KDE-1.1, but will be the "stable" desktop for the next 8-12 months while KDE-2.0 (with Corba, Koffice. qt-2.0, etc) is in development. Its release is significant as this will be the stable face of KDE for quite a while (there may be one more minor KDE-1.2 bugfix release at some point), but basically the developers have left 1.x for 2.0 development.
As far as RedHat 6.0 KDE support is concerned, they have in principle joined the ranks of Suse, Caldera, DLD, Mandrake, etc who package and support KDE themselves. (Well, not quite, as these others make KDE the default desktop) This takes the responsibility for RH6.0 KDE support out of the hands of the KDE Packagers Team.
We will continue to support RedHat 5.2, 5.1, 5.0 (and, if anyone requests it, 4.2), as RedHat will only handle KDE support on 6.0 and later.
I am sure they will do their best to make the KDE experience on RedHat 6.0 as easy as the one we have tried to give users on RedHat 5.x, and hope their packaging will allow the replacement of Gnome by KDE simple for those of us who wish to exercise freedom of choice to do this.
However, RedHat 6.0 rpm packages do *NOT* follow the packaging scheme I introduced with the KDE-1.1 release, where the optional KDE applications are all separated into individual RPM subpackages, so the user has complete control over exactly which optional KDE components are installed.
The RedHat 6.0 packages follow the "traditional" KDE packaging scheme of 10 collections of applications, where if a collection is installed, you get all its members. My understanding is that RedHat wanted to keep the KDE packaging more analogous to the way gnome was packaged. (A "level playing field"?)
The advisory from the kde ftp site quoted here is for people with KDE on RedHat 5.x systems who wish to upgrade to RedHat 6.0. Since I do not know whether RedHat 6.0 KDE packages "know about" the structure of our RedHat 5.x packages, we are advising people with upgrade from 5.x to 6.0 to use our "uninstall-kde" script to remove our packages first. This will *NOT* remove any of their personal KDE settings.
RedHat 6.0 ships with "almost" the final KDE-1.1.1 release; If you want a true KDE-1.1.1 release for RedHat 6.0, you must wait for RedHat to provide it, but the only differences will be very minor
Hmmm, this posting got rather long-winded!
Thanks for your patience!
Well, you see, when people are no longer rebooting their systems every day, they need to do something that uses up that time. Systems administration would be it.
Red Hat as essentially made the KDE directory /usr from the original /opt/kde
/opt/kde/bin are now /usr/bin and things in /opt/kde/share go into /usr/share
So things in
The merits of this are debatable. But them are the facts.
Sig (appended to the end of comments you post, 120 chars)
I really hope kpilotDaemon is a bit more stable - using it with my Palm V it keeps crashing out - which is really frustrating! Other than that, it looks good, though I'm feeling a bit impatient for themable KDE, it's still butt ugly :)
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perl -e 'print scalar reverse q(\)-:
Matt. Want XML + Apache + Stylesheets? Get AxKit.
KDE and gnome switched to a common ORB architecture?
:)
just imagine how cool linux would be if it had two competing "cool" desktop enviroments - but apps from one could still seamlessly integrate into the other enviroment.
eg gnome-panel apps could plug into kpanel and vice versa...
if only.
- paul: who uses gnome, kde and openlook apps all under windowmaker.
I use Friend/Foe + mod-point modifiers as a karma/reputation system.
Someone who doesn't use Linux for the cool desktops? Absurd!
:)
Everyone knows the reason our favorite HolyOS is there is to waste tons and tons of time configuring our desktops.
Hehe, if you took the console and fvwm out of Linux distro's, and forced everyone to use X and some fancy WM, no one would get any work done
Qt 2.0 will be released under the QPL 1.0 which is a DFSG-free / Open Source license. ( development snapshots are already available licensed under the QPL)
The QPL 1.0 is however incompatible with the GPL (Debian's analysis still holds for QPL 1.0). Thus, to redistribute binaries, an exception clause is needed like pi-address has:
The KDE developers are reportedly preparing a different license change that will resolve this conflict.
- `lock' in
/etc/ppp/options will be ignored.
Well, that should eliminate quite a few newbie questions, especially on comp.os.linux.powerpc.By the way, do other people have the problem where disconnecting a kppp connection doesn't cause the modem to hang up? I keep having to pull the jack out since I don't have a reset button.
What I'm listening to now on Pandora...
2.0 is a lot of work, and depends upon many things: getting KOM/OpenParts done, troll tech getting qt-2.0 out the door, getting koffice stabel, ect. 1.1 was a set of tweaks that brought kde from stability to maturity, and 1.1.1 was just a few bugfixes. With 1.1 they just took a bunch of stuff they were working on that didn't have the dependencies that 2.0 has, and got them out. This time they just fixed bugs.
Nope.
Your post has been up all of about 5 minutes, and already it's slashdotted.
Chas - The one, the only.
THANK GOD!!!
Chas - The one, the only.
THANK GOD!!!
I agree. KDE is a great product, which is doing alot to make Linux (and Unix in general) more useable for many people, myself included.
It's also a wonderful thing to show off when advocating Linux. We may all know that Linux has "advanced GUIs", but the rest of the world doesn't - yet.
Now I just hope KDE 1.1.1 lets me disabled animated .GIFs in kfm. :-)
Host your own websites, anywhere!
If your compile errors are related to libpng.so.1
edit the makefile in the kthememgr directory
and add -lz after the -lpng and it should compile.
It worked for me anyway.
ah might as well speak up here:
Is anyone working on a qt mozilla that's designed to work well with kde? The "official" mozilla uses gtk+ but there's no reason why we can't have a qt version as well
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unfortunately they didn't keep up with the project (and I got an email from them saying that they don't have the resources to work on it). So I need to know if there are others who are working on it.
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I rather have a couple of xterms on screen simultaneously than keep pressing ALT-Fx to change between the consoles ...
They released 1.0 and told us 2.0 would be next.
Then they released 1.1 and told us 2.0 would be next.
Next came 1.1.1...
What's next? 1.1.1.1?
2.0 is supposed to have great new features, I wish they would concentrate on that instead of the old release.
Of all the comments I've ever posted, this is definately one of them
I haven't experienced/noticed problems 2 & 3 but problem 1 is definitely annoying. Here's a work-around:
i media/cdrom/kexplorer-0.2.tar.gz
Warning: This will close all your kfms (that is filemanagers)
Open a terminal and type
killall kfm; kfm &
This will free all the memory kfm allocated and make your system responsive again.
Also if you are using linux take a look at kruiser (formerly known as kexplorer), it is an alternative filemanager, and boy is it fast! (Actually it's probably just what you need to fix your problem 2)
It is available at:
ftp://ftp.us.kde.org/pub/kde/unstable/apps/mult
Hope this helps.
But some websites will detect that the browser your using isn't IE or NS and hence assume that javascript isn't supported.
You will need to change the browser identification string using "Options->KFM Configuration->User Agent" to fool the site into thinking that your using IE or NS.
1.1.1 wasn't released on April 24 or 26. It was just released (3 May), (some people jumped the gun and thought it had been though), and, no, they won't remove this release.
Good to here that pre1 is stable for you.
Again, no 1.1.1 was not released anytime in April.
Some files in a 1_1_1 directory were released during April, (I downloaded these on April 27 and installed them). But putting some files on an ftp site does not constitute an official release, at least not for a large project like KDE.
Though you may have meant to do well by announcing the release of 1.1.1 at freshmeat.net, you actually did considerable harm. Those files were intended to become the official 1.1.1 release as long as nothing was terribly wrong with them, (in fact some changes had to be made). By preannouncing the release you mislead many people into believing a release had actually occurred, what if those files had contained buggy programs that could do damage to someones system!? (I assure you this is quite possible when last minute changes are being made).
Your actions also made life difficult for people who host mirrors. Because of people like you the files can no longer be uploaded to the main ftp server a day early (so that mirrors may sync). Hence we arrived at a situation whereby the release has to be made before mirrors can sync, and many people are left in the unenviable position of desperately searching for an updated mirror, (when there is none).
I urge you to be more careful in the future and think of the affect your actions will have on others.
">and the release notes from the homepage. "
Hmm, I didn't see this announcement. But if this was the case then it makes it much easier to understand your actions. I apologize if this was in fact the case.
It's just that I'm a bit annoyed by the whole situation, and that as soon as files are publicly made available a release will be declared, the ftp site will be overloaded, and the mirrors won't have time to sync.
I'm afraid you'll have to stay hungry tonight troll as I won't be feeding you.
Perhaps you could go somewhere else?
Try logging in to either my.yahoo.com or www.dejanews.com. If it works, I'll download it.
Dramatic version updates.... like jumping from 0.30 over night to 0.90, quickly followed by a few 0.9.x (all of which made their way to slashdot) and then a premature 1.0 that hung ALL OF THE TIME while segfaulting and core dumping?
/. whinners would be complaining about how they aren't releasing anything new.
Why is it that KDE gets no respect? It's stable, it's fast, it works well. If they had NOT released a 1.1.x, than all of the
I wish people could appreciate KDE for what they have accomplished.
Window Maker is recommended as an alternate wm for those not wanting to run kwm.
Oh, sorry to spoil your party, I'm sure you'd have been happier if they were in their own little fort waving their own little flag.
I've finally had it: until slashdot gets article moderation, I am not coming back.
Hey, give them a break.
A lot of Linux folks are learning that while being technically better is great, you've got to play marketing games as well if you want your GUI, tool, what have you, to be seen.
KDE didn't call it KDE 2000 or 2.0, it was a first announcement, made its point and that was that. Were that all press releases so down to earth!
Steven, Senior Technology Editor, Sm@rt Reseller
Window Maker all the way... 'Nuff said
belbo
--
"Just believe everything I tell you, and it will all be very, very simple."
Well...without cookie support that *works* kfm will still be useless at most of my favorite url's. Shame...it's a decent browser other than that.
Tired of being another body in the flock? Linux ! We are not sheep anymore.
No one is forcing you to upgrade. Do you upgrade your Linux kernel everytime a new version comes out? Judging from your post, I'd say that you probably don't. There is no need to upgrade your kernel everytime a new release comes out, unless it fixes something that you have had problems with. If you are not having any problems with your KDE software, then there is no need for you to upgrade. If, on the other hand, there have been fixes that would benefit you, then you should upgrade.
It is all about choice, you have the choice to upgrade if you need to. With many other systems (such as Winblows) you do not have that choice. You are at the mercy of the company that sells the product to come out with a fix (called upgrade) for problems (sometimes very serious problems) with the product. Sometimes you may have to wait months, or even years for these fixes. I, for one, prefer the way that many Open Source projects work... release quickly and release often!
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Troll tech already did a QtMozilla. They didn't do it as a production project, just as a proof of concept, so you'll need to do some work to polish it up. You can find it as www.troll.no
A Government Is a Body of People, Usually Notably Ungoverned
Wasn't this supposed to link to the new Open Source QT library? Or not? I'm confused. Or is the next version of QT supposed to be Open Source? (Or the semi-open source that they made in their own license.)
...Life's not fair, but the root password helps
I read the document linked about RedHat 6.0, but that seems to be for people upgrading TO RedHat 6.0 on top of their old KDE. I want to do the opposite, upgrade to the new KDE over the one supplied with RedHat.
Does anyone have any information on how to upgrade to KDE 1.1.1 over RedHat 6.0?
Also, does anyone know why RedHat decided to use their packaging scheme for KDE instead of the one KDE (and consequently, all the application authors) use? It is so annoying to install new apps, etc, only for them not to work because RedHat's KDE is installed into different directories.
Did you look in the extras directroy? Theres a RPM called javascript there, though I am running RedHat 6 and so I can't check it out just yet. Perhaps that is the JavaScript support for kfm you seek. But then perhaps not.
GUIs are for wusses. I only load up XF86 and FVWM when I need to use Netscape or Gimp. Why should I waste system resources on eye candy when it's not even for a game?
"That's Tron. He fights for the Users."
Just kidding. :)
Save the whales. Feed the hungry. Free the mallocs.
hahahaha I couldnt agree more!!!!!!!
I like KDE alot, and think that the KDE team is doing a brilliant job - But I am beggining to GET sick of the number of things I continually keep having to upgrade - in order to keep my system up to date! Enuff upgrades already!
I don't see the spot in battling for KDE Gnome anyway.
I use WindowMaker as my Windowmanager because I like the look of it. But besides I like those KDE-Programs also, so I use them with WindowMaker.
Hell, anyone can use in his desktop, what he/she likes. If someone likes Windows, well, let him die stupid and do your own thing.
I say: Use the best of both worlds! Use KDE AND Gnome! Both of them do a great job in coding useful programs.
--- If OS were buildings, then the first woodpecker to come around would erase 95 % of civilization.
Wow! Such as song and dance about a 1.1.X release! Haven't those KDE guys taken any lessons for the Mircosoft marketing team?
If you're trying to get a mass market for your product, improved stability and bug fixes would have been enough to warrant KDE 2.0!
Hmmm, to retain the respect of the development community and take over the world at the same time? I don't know if this is possible in today's market! Maybe you guys should turn a blind eye and let KDE slip in a few dramatic version updates every now and then to impress the punters...
BLAMMO shaken not stirred
Hja, I must say that I agree with you because, when I heard that the KDE came out I wanted it. So I put my self on the "road" to find it. I founded some files which I downloaded--mistake! So then I also looked for updated mirror no luck! A yes, after download I had to reinstall my KDE, because it caused to crash my sistem, now with 1.1.1 it is again o.k.!!
Music is a gift from gods!
Let me know when you can successfully compile the theme manager, I have redhat 5.2 (for about another week) and haven't been able to compile it.
Well, I installed KDE 1.1.1 onto a RH5.2 system
running KDE1.1.1beta and now Q3Arena causes
the kernel to lock up solid. The only change
to the system since yesterday is KDE...
What is even better is that I'm not even running
KDE when I run Q3! Anyone else seeing this?
Jason
Have a look at http://kde.themes.org/newstuff where there are tons of themes and a little application to manage them.
Patrick
"Captain, I cannot believe my ears!" - Spock
Hey, stop this waste of time and do something more productive like say.... coding ?
If you dont like gnome use something else. I know that KDE rips(I use it myself) but that doesnt mean gnome stinks. Yeahhh there was some nasty bugs which should never have been released with gnome 1.0, but KDE 1.1 wasnt that clean either.
I havent tried out gnome yet, so I cant really defend it at the moment but I reckon that 12 months down the track it would be a good competitior to KDE. Competition is good .
Dont flame , send out bug reports or feature suggestions.
Anyone knows if Redhat would include this newer version of KDE on the RH6.0 ?
Microsoft isnt evil, its just "a bit" greedy.=P
People do upgrade hardware & software just to get stability. Look at the unbelievable number of patches that people download for games like Quake2. As far as I know, there were no new features in any of the patches, but right after it was released it seemed like there was a new patch every week. If there is ANY software that people _want_ badly enough, they will download any number of patches and spend alot of money in hardware if needed to make it work.