Regulation will turn into taxation. Taxation will be self regulated. If you fudge your tax returns you go to jail. Wikileaks will be looked upon as a regulation violation and people would be dragged before a judge.
I knew this would be the result of Wikileaks where the end game is now a sped up process which otherwise would of taken the next 10 years to procure if left open-ended and unnoticed.
Wikileaks has set a new precedence welcoming the age of having to hold a broadcasters licence to setup a website.
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True that, people should challenge the Govt at every turn and make the strongest possible point.
Believe me when i say this i'm no advocate I'm just pointing out my own insights there. Which is we are headed for a regulated internet regardless.
The good thing about Govt is usually they are very slow to act and it could take years even decades to produce. What Assange has done is sped it up to be simply a few years for some nations simply a few months.
Assange will go down in the history books as the man who showed the world why censorship was needed and remember the famous quote on who writes those history books? Not particularly a picture painted of accuracy just what the Victors proclaim.
Within 10 years we are going to see a regulated internet. People are going to need licences to produce websites. Social community sites like Facebook will have to pay for the pleasure of producing the type of content they hold and Businesses will need to pay a yearly fee to whichever Govt they are a part of. The unlicensed sites will be banned from the general public through their filtration mechanisms.
Think of the amounts of extra money govts can tap in to, another form of tax created by the internet? with the economic issues to date govts would be stupid to pass up such an opportunity. Like i mentioned before in one of my above posts, I would not be at all surprised if the US Govt engineered this whole Wikileaks thing on their own.
Things like the Australian filter and now the French censorship laws are a wireframe for this, even though the filters may be noneffective today, tomorrow the process grows. This is how Govt works, they take an idea they build on it and they suck the peoples money horrendously until they get it.
And with the introduction of IPv6 what that be the catalyst of these changes.
France, China, Eventually Australia.... The US will soon follow suit
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Yes, it's just you and your argument I'm afraid.
No you are so what am I? Ner Ner Ner lets keep at it with the twittery. Moving on from yet another displayed piece of fuckheadedness.
I'm not worried about the Government and I'm not afraid of them. I'm just stating a fact. Its people like yourself not seeing whats right in front of you.
Governments controls our spending. Govt controls what type of cars hit the streets. Govt controls whats said on TV. Govt creates the infrastructure we use, transport, communications and that includes the internet.
The internet has nothing different about it if you compare it to any other form of broadcast service except for the fact at its present stage of development it has a pack of wannabe freedom lovers thinking they are untouchable.
Another broadcast service was the same back pre internet and it was called CB Radio. Where are they now? On the fucking internet because the govt kicked them off the airwaves.
Deny it all you want. You want the Govt to not control every little detail of your life go move to the Amazon Rainforest and set up camp. In the meantime the world has been inherited by the meek and the evidence is that politics shapes our lives, like it or not.
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WTF? Is it just me or is half the ppl on/. a bunch of cynical twits.
Did I say give it too them? did i say this was a great thing? No and No and no! they dont have enough reasons because if they did there would be a red button. Consider that net censorship was primarily about Kiddy Porn and Piricy things that really dont affect the Govt directly. I dont think i saw Steve Conroy at any point of his limelight days want to push his net filter because of restricting classfied information, did you?
I'm guessing you have half a brain so I'm assuming you'd know making Apnic, Arin, etc put a Govt deemed process to pull the plug on certian IP's isnt an incredibly difficult thing to do.
Having Govt secrets broadcasted over the net is a very good reason to want to pass a bill to ensure a control factor such as this. Thinking otherwise is "Fucking Genius". Political Analysts are out there already speculating that its going to be a major point of discussion and if you read the news you can see most countries (with the only exception being Israel) is seeing the situation in a negative light and wouldn't want the same happening to them.
Moron! Twit.. fag... see i can call you names too, try to be a little less offensive. That goes for rest of the fucktards wanting to just ark up. Try posting something that constructive I'm totally respectful to other peoples opinions and im happy to debate them with you without the childish banter!
Okay MAYBE you have a point, Just as MAYBE you don't. Which is what brings me to my conclusion... MHAHAHAHAHA!
First off agreeably I've read a few of those cables and most of it fairly low-level garbage that no one could give two hoots about. The problem I see is that insurance file, could be bluff? could be real? maybe they know whats in it? maybe they dont.
Ideally the stuff Assange has released to date has been not worth an assassination over but wouldn't it be prudent for any national security organisation to be certain though, i'd believe (better to be safe than sorry)?
There is a lot more going on still. Mastercard/Visa, Swedish Sex crimes, etc which he is having to suffer (also being in jail must not be all that fun).
But at the end of the day what i see really happing is just another pile of 911 conspiracy theories and area 51 speculation all over again.
The question in 2 years time from now will asking and conspiring about is.... Wait for it.....
Did the US Govt engineer this Wikileaks thing simply to gain absolute control over the internet?
and If so isn't this just the special little way the US government likes introduce change?
3 letters 1 word may jog your memory "WMD Iraq!"
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Bogus reasons bring clutter, conjecture and argument.
Look ummm I understand that you would hate too see something like this happen. I'm not liking it as much as you but I am saying something we all know and that is... The US govt has no regard for playing by the rules.
Never (as public knowledge or at this scale) has Visa and Mastercard ever pulled a sites financial access at the hands of a Governments whim (I wonder how much of their next tax bill the Govt has chopped off in favor for their help). Never has a guy been convicted of a sex crime scandal right at cusp of material being made public (I wonder what favors the Swedish and UK Govts have received for this).
Assange has dug himself this great big hole one that he's been partially aware of what the ramifications may be (i.e his encrypted insurance document in case he gets killed) but not completely.
He's locked up in somewhere in an English prison, the home of James Bond's of the world MI5/MI6. These guys know their shit when it comes to extracting information and they are very friendly to the US. That poor guy doesn't stand a chance! He wouldn't even be able to take a crap without it going through a machine!
When they find Assange's deadman's switch on this encrypted material. Expect him to become a deadman. In the meantime expect them to be finding ways to systematically disseminate Wikileaks. The only thing Assange has that most other people with this sort information "doesn't" have is the public spotlight and a measurable amount of control. This means the sly back ops tactics that need to be executed have to be done with a little extra caution.
This whole process in the deep dark underhood is sounding out the Goverments everywhere that if you want to keep secrets you MUST have control over the internet. Its a shy step from kiddy porn which is what censorship has been about before.
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I didn't say i liked it, i just said whats going to happen.
Wikileaks has censored the internet for the rest of us.
Censorship has always had challenges to become possible. I.E Steve Conroy.
No, China is sitting there going... "I told you so..." US is going "Holy shit i thought i ruled the world? how did some guy from Townsville Australia suddenly hold more clout than i?"
Next time you feel like you think you have the right to broadcast anything you like. I suggest buying a CB radio flipping it to the Police channel and then start shouting random abuse down it. I'd give it about 20 mins to 1hr before they show up at your house and lock you up.
Wikileaks just regulated the internet and for what? To hear that Russia has "Batman" for a President? Brilliant.
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All Wikileaks has done has given the US an excuse to stick a big red button on the internet and shut bits of it down when it chooses. Expect a bipartisan ruling from governments all around the world to enforce direct control over IPS and Domains in the future.
Wikileaks has just helped give reason to censor the internet with a very simple concept behind managing the censorship.
Yeah, see Apple got all bent out of shape about flash. Now Adobe decided to skimp on the graphics acceleration for Flash on OSX. OSX's reputation was stained by lacking in API flexibility some even say the API is less substantial than Windows because its an incomplete API - not being an Apple programmer I dont know, but whats publicized in the news I do.
As for this meeting who knows if this is just Adobe threatening Apple's marketshare here via press and FUD or if its an honest business to business arrangement being made. Adobe has made it fairly clear support for Graphical Applications for Apple isn't something they are going to do as well from here on. Maybe this is just the next step, or maybe not.
My opinion is that this MS / Adobe alliance is just a show and pony parade. Just like the acquisition of Yahoo with MS or Apple. Then the FUD suggested that Apple was going to form an alliance with MS so on and so fourth.
To me it just looks like MS is still the market leader and everyone 'pretends' to be in bed with them just to scare their opponent. Rarely does it happen as it did in the past. Besides what are you going to cover in an hr meeting? I tell ya, you'll get a cup of coffee, a danish and shoot the breeze about your weekend, a 1HR meeting is hardly enough time to decide the futures of two leading vendors in the IT market.
Considering that this guy recons its 100% possible.
I'm waiting for ICAAN to release TLD's so make way for this new planet. I'm thinking.erth for us and.glse for them.
Not worth it. I pinged them and haven't got a response. They're gonna have to do something about that latency problem on their end before ICAAN will bother.
Yes I could imagine the ping response...
root@localhost# ping www.google.com.glse PING www.google.com.glse (66.230.200.100) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from www.google.com.glse (66.102.11.104.76.65.45): icmp_seq=1 ttl=52 time=40 y 64 bytes from www.google.com.glse (66.102.11.104.76.65.45): icmp_seq=2 ttl=52 time=40 y 64 bytes from www.google.com.glse (66.102.11.104.76.65.45): icmp_seq=3 ttl=52 time=40 y 64 bytes from www.google.com.glse (66.102.11.104.76.65.45): icmp_seq=4 ttl=52 time=40 y 64 bytes from www.google.com.glse (66.102.11.104.76.65.45): icmp_seq=5 ttl=52 time=40 y 64 bytes from www.google.com.glse (66.102.11.104.76.65.45): icmp_seq=6 ttl=52 time=40 y
But what lack of features? Saying the same thing over and over again doesn't just make it true. And FWIW, some of the iPad branded websites are fantastic. Is it ABC that has a site where you can swipe left and right between articles?
Lack of features here goes...
Slashdot - Only recently made the login process 'usable' on the iPad. The opacity change in the background and the login section was VERY difficult to use. I'd go as far as saying broken and dodgy.
Facebook - try and use the jQuery like search interface to look for friends, its broken.
YouTube - ever tried to search for "latest uploaded videos" or sort the search queries? very limiting, on several occasions I've simply given up on using YT on the iPad. Walked over to my PC to find the clip i was looking for. 2 mins on the PC, 20 mins of sh*ting and f*cking on my iPad till i gave up.
Newspapers - Australian based newspaper reading is nothing short of a complicated and sits on a broken half done interface (a lot of it is WIP). It works well on the iPhone, iPad not so much.
Finding text within Web Pages - Please direct me to the "find" or "find next" feature on the iPad?
No Extension Management - Simple things like Google toolbar is not possible. Web Developer tools? view source? without even the option of these things it makes it useless for any professional web person.
Unable to Download Media - I wont regurgitate the no flash argument but if it aint QuickTime it rarely works, in fact mp3, avi all those formats are BUGGY at best. And dont worry about having the capacity to save anything. I'm just curious on how Jobs expects to use the whopping 64 gig he gave us *sarcasm*
The list goes on.... and on.... and on...
What's the problem with Google Apps? I generally have found them fairly half-assed and never use them, so I can't say I've ever even tried them on the iPad, but I'd be curious to hear what's wrong.
Similar problem as the Newspaper Issue (News LTD). Written to work for the iPhone but not the iPad. Screen stretching isn't there on spreadsheets so the top section stops at iPhone width, in fact you doesn't have a footer the app magically just stops. On the desktop its far more substantial and a lot more usable.
I have an iPad as well, and quite like it. Still waiting for iOS4... travesty that it's not out yet. I don't find it that significantly lacking vis-a-vis my other computers.
Maybe it comes down the to type of user, for me who practically lives on the internet as apart of his job my iPad gathers a lot of dust. Believe me when I say i wish it wouldn't.
STRONGLY disagree. I have a canon powershot and a canon rebel xt. I like photography a lot. Most of the time, I don't have my cameras with me, but I always have my cellphone with me. Amongst geeks / photo-enthusiasts, certainly people understand how inferior any cellphone camera is, but the sheer volume of photos has to go to cellphone pictures. It is very much a big deal for a lot of people.
Again same as above, I don't believe a lot of people are in this boat. I believe a small percentage is but you'll find 8 x out of 10 people just want a phone to be phone. The camera is only an extra and there to take snaps of your drunk mates to use as bribery material later - it doesn't need to be airbrushed and polished and stuck on a magazine cover, it just needs to be recognizable.
I have both. I still use the iphone a lot. Hell, my wife even uses iBook on her iPhone. I can't do that, but she does.
Okay so your in agreeing that reading books on the iPhone sucks. Now consider if your to sit on the PC for an 1hr or so reading a technical reference like docs.php.net on the iPhone. You can't, great for getting the number of the local pizza place, bad for serious research work / study / etc.
Granted more Extremely High for Vista but the 200 odd of OSX I believe trumps that.
As for the iPad it's WIP - so much of it doesn't work the way it could. Safari is seriously limited with its lacking of features on big brand websites the fact companies have to create "iPad friendly sites" is becoming more apparent therefore it's going to take time to bring iPad into the fold. Google Apps are a perfect example of how half assed the iPad is.
The problems for iPad go on but i wont entertain them and make this post too long winded. I'm an iPad owner and i only use it with 3g when I'm travelling. Its thin and easy to carry but holds less for what its worth. It's not worthwhile at home except for when i want to surf the web on the cann. Its lack of web browsing features means I'm forced to use the desktop or laptop.
Re - iPhone 4, its a _PHONE_ replacing their crap camera with a slightly less crap camera isn't a great selling point. If that really matters to you go right a head and buy one. Most people would opt up and buy a camera from a camera store.
Improved screens, great, a small screen which is too small to view websites is now improved, great. iPhones are terrible for web viewing and you can't "really" surf the web on one of them, only for quick referencing and finding out stuff on the fly. The retina concept will probably stop long term use of straining your eyes to try and view tiny renderings of websites and prevent people from going blind but thats it but IMHO the iPhone isn't a web surfing tool anyway. Get an iPad then go back to the use the iPhone, trust me you'll never use the iPhone to view another website ever again.
No need for a citation here, use commonsense. Whose going to exploit a music player and to what end? iPhone and iPod touch has brought the concept of Jailbreaking in to the fold and is massive part of this. Hows this not hacking for commercial gain? have you not seen the Rock app?
There has been several damaging exploits dated back to 2009. Some of which use SMS to exploit the phone, a recent one which takes all of the contact info off the phone via an SMS.
Apple is not infallible and its now targeted, being ignorant to that is just plain silly.
Absolute fantasy! Apple is unprepared for security and the way the iPad has been cobbled together is proof of this. Their software hasn't been targeted until now and the exploitation of Apple products _are_ becoming more commonplace.
You cant compare it to how Windows was back in the day or any notions like that because Apple is currently going through what Microsoft was unprepared for back then but with a more sophisticated mindset and strategy (crackers / cyber-criminals are smarter these days). Apple based itself on UNIX around the time the internet became common in the household as a result saved them a fair amount of grief but hardly places it as a more secure product in todays world.
The lack of Apples popularity had always kept them in niche marketplaces until now but the iPhone now makes them commonplace and popular enough to mean money for blackmarket hacking. This doesn't mean its more secure its totally the opposite. It means it's less secure because it hasn't been targeted until now. In fact I'd spout there are just as many exploits in the wild for iOS and MacOS as there is for Windows Vista in present day.
For companies a high patch rate and focus on security means a hampering of innovation because development resources becomes focused on fixing problems rather than creating new features. Truthfully, the iPad is a product of that hampering, from my experience its like using a half built house with its scaffolding still attached too it and for the iPhone 4 even the sales people at the phone store cant find feature lists convincing enough to get me to upgrade from a 3GS to a 4. The question "why should i upgrade?" doesn't get answered with a solid response.
Did we get any of those iPhone 4 sales through the roof crap this month on/. ? No Thank God!!!
The concept of what Jobs is doing has become convoluted. I'm a programmer and I write features on software I personally don't like all the time. If I have a problem with a feature for any reason I raise it with the client and recommend alternatives but when the foot goes down on what they request I then go and write it. Even if the feature is stupid, inefficient or just plain wrong people at the end of the day want what they want.
There is a demand for flash on iDevices and to keep those customers happy and follow his "Apple Philosophy" about creating the best product possible. He should make flash optional, chuck a nasty disclaimer in about security (like they have on cigarette packets). Close the argument off and move on.
Rather, he attacks flash on his website, he makes spectacles about how bad it is which the media laps up and continues to drive it as an issue. Looks to me like a vendetta against flash, nothing more.
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Thanks. The guy in question is fairly high up the food chain in vulnerability assessment (and works for one of the 3 big AV companies).
I can safely say everyone working in the security industry is beating their knife and fork at the dinner table waiting for Apple to screw up in this way. Not to take a shot at Apple, moreover, wanting to be the first company to be able to "save" Apple and be the front runner in SmartPhone AV.
I'm going to respond back to his email with some of the things you raised. I'll also see if he was able to track any outgoing data off the iPhone, as it stands I wouldn't be surprised if it is just a face value hack and no data is stolen but he has said contacts and emails do get sent.
For a moment i thought it could of been a strcat() exploit, using the rejoin of SMS's to smash the stack (I know a little old school but you never know).
I'd like to pass something back to the guy who discovered this bug. So just a few Q's.
If its social engineering its still a concern because it falls within criteria of "security exploit". If so to what end does this help a hacker gain access? Unless you're stipulating is its just a mere prank/joke.
Class 0 SMS or not, shouldn't there be something at the application level to stop it from putting up nasties on the screen? Does pressing "dismiss" get rid of it?
A friend of a friend is the publisher of the article, he waited a good week before submitting publicly.
The issue they've found is that an incoming sms causes all the contacts, calendar and emails get shipped off to a remote server.
Apple and Telstra has tried to keep a lid on it as much as they can, the consultant who initially found it has discovered 9 iPhones over the past week with same symptoms.
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Regulation will turn into taxation. Taxation will be self regulated. If you fudge your tax returns you go to jail. Wikileaks will be looked upon as a regulation violation and people would be dragged before a judge.
I knew this would be the result of Wikileaks where the end game is now a sped up process which otherwise would of taken the next 10 years to procure if left open-ended and unnoticed.
Wikileaks has set a new precedence welcoming the age of having to hold a broadcasters licence to setup a website.
True that, people should challenge the Govt at every turn and make the strongest possible point.
Believe me when i say this i'm no advocate I'm just pointing out my own insights there. Which is we are headed for a regulated internet regardless.
The good thing about Govt is usually they are very slow to act and it could take years even decades to produce. What Assange has done is sped it up to be simply a few years for some nations simply a few months.
Assange will go down in the history books as the man who showed the world why censorship was needed and remember the famous quote on who writes those history books? Not particularly a picture painted of accuracy just what the Victors proclaim.
Within 10 years we are going to see a regulated internet. People are going to need licences to produce websites. Social community sites like Facebook will have to pay for the pleasure of producing the type of content they hold and Businesses will need to pay a yearly fee to whichever Govt they are a part of. The unlicensed sites will be banned from the general public through their filtration mechanisms.
Think of the amounts of extra money govts can tap in to, another form of tax created by the internet? with the economic issues to date govts would be stupid to pass up such an opportunity. Like i mentioned before in one of my above posts, I would not be at all surprised if the US Govt engineered this whole Wikileaks thing on their own.
Things like the Australian filter and now the French censorship laws are a wireframe for this, even though the filters may be noneffective today, tomorrow the process grows. This is how Govt works, they take an idea they build on it and they suck the peoples money horrendously until they get it.
And with the introduction of IPv6 what that be the catalyst of these changes.
http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/12/16/190238/The-French-Government-Can-Now-Censor-the-Internet
France, China, Eventually Australia .... The US will soon follow suit
Yes, it's just you and your argument I'm afraid.
No you are so what am I? Ner Ner Ner lets keep at it with the twittery. Moving on from yet another displayed piece of fuckheadedness.
I'm not worried about the Government and I'm not afraid of them. I'm just stating a fact. Its people like yourself not seeing whats right in front of you.
Governments controls our spending. Govt controls what type of cars hit the streets. Govt controls whats said on TV. Govt creates the infrastructure we use, transport, communications and that includes the internet.
The internet has nothing different about it if you compare it to any other form of broadcast service except for the fact at its present stage of development it has a pack of wannabe freedom lovers thinking they are untouchable.
Another broadcast service was the same back pre internet and it was called CB Radio. Where are they now? On the fucking internet because the govt kicked them off the airwaves.
Deny it all you want. You want the Govt to not control every little detail of your life go move to the Amazon Rainforest and set up camp. In the meantime the world has been inherited by the meek and the evidence is that politics shapes our lives, like it or not.
WTF? Is it just me or is half the ppl on /. a bunch of cynical twits.
Did I say give it too them? did i say this was a great thing? No and No and no! they dont have enough reasons because if they did there would be a red button. Consider that net censorship was primarily about Kiddy Porn and Piricy things that really dont affect the Govt directly. I dont think i saw Steve Conroy at any point of his limelight days want to push his net filter because of restricting classfied information, did you?
I'm guessing you have half a brain so I'm assuming you'd know making Apnic, Arin, etc put a Govt deemed process to pull the plug on certian IP's isnt an incredibly difficult thing to do.
Having Govt secrets broadcasted over the net is a very good reason to want to pass a bill to ensure a control factor such as this. Thinking otherwise is "Fucking Genius". Political Analysts are out there already speculating that its going to be a major point of discussion and if you read the news you can see most countries (with the only exception being Israel) is seeing the situation in a negative light and wouldn't want the same happening to them.
Moron! Twit.. fag ... see i can call you names too, try to be a little less offensive. That goes for rest of the fucktards wanting to just ark up. Try posting something that constructive I'm totally respectful to other peoples opinions and im happy to debate them with you without the childish banter!
Okay MAYBE you have a point, Just as MAYBE you don't. Which is what brings me to my conclusion ... MHAHAHAHAHA!
First off agreeably I've read a few of those cables and most of it fairly low-level garbage that no one could give two hoots about. The problem I see is that insurance file, could be bluff? could be real? maybe they know whats in it? maybe they dont.
Ideally the stuff Assange has released to date has been not worth an assassination over but wouldn't it be prudent for any national security organisation to be certain though, i'd believe (better to be safe than sorry)?
There is a lot more going on still. Mastercard/Visa, Swedish Sex crimes, etc which he is having to suffer (also being in jail must not be all that fun).
But at the end of the day what i see really happing is just another pile of 911 conspiracy theories and area 51 speculation all over again.
The question in 2 years time from now will asking and conspiring about is .... Wait for it .....
Did the US Govt engineer this Wikileaks thing simply to gain absolute control over the internet?
and If so isn't this just the special little way the US government likes introduce change?
3 letters 1 word may jog your memory "WMD Iraq!"
Bogus reasons bring clutter, conjecture and argument.
Serious reasons get everyone on side.
Look ummm I understand that you would hate too see something like this happen. I'm not liking it as much as you but I am saying something we all know and that is ... The US govt has no regard for playing by the rules.
Never (as public knowledge or at this scale) has Visa and Mastercard ever pulled a sites financial access at the hands of a Governments whim (I wonder how much of their next tax bill the Govt has chopped off in favor for their help). Never has a guy been convicted of a sex crime scandal right at cusp of material being made public (I wonder what favors the Swedish and UK Govts have received for this).
Assange has dug himself this great big hole one that he's been partially aware of what the ramifications may be (i.e his encrypted insurance document in case he gets killed) but not completely.
He's locked up in somewhere in an English prison, the home of James Bond's of the world MI5/MI6. These guys know their shit when it comes to extracting information and they are very friendly to the US. That poor guy doesn't stand a chance! He wouldn't even be able to take a crap without it going through a machine!
When they find Assange's deadman's switch on this encrypted material. Expect him to become a deadman. In the meantime expect them to be finding ways to systematically disseminate Wikileaks. The only thing Assange has that most other people with this sort information "doesn't" have is the public spotlight and a measurable amount of control. This means the sly back ops tactics that need to be executed have to be done with a little extra caution.
This whole process in the deep dark underhood is sounding out the Goverments everywhere that if you want to keep secrets you MUST have control over the internet. Its a shy step from kiddy porn which is what censorship has been about before.
I didn't say i liked it, i just said whats going to happen.
Wikileaks has censored the internet for the rest of us.
I suggest looking up the word "bipartisan".
Censorship has always had challenges to become possible. I.E Steve Conroy.
No, China is sitting there going ... "I told you so ..." US is going "Holy shit i thought i ruled the world? how did some guy from Townsville Australia suddenly hold more clout than i?"
Next time you feel like you think you have the right to broadcast anything you like. I suggest buying a CB radio flipping it to the Police channel and then start shouting random abuse down it. I'd give it about 20 mins to 1hr before they show up at your house and lock you up.
Wikileaks just regulated the internet and for what? To hear that Russia has "Batman" for a President? Brilliant.
All Wikileaks has done has given the US an excuse to stick a big red button on the internet and shut bits of it down when it chooses. Expect a bipartisan ruling from governments all around the world to enforce direct control over IPS and Domains in the future.
Wikileaks has just helped give reason to censor the internet with a very simple concept behind managing the censorship.
Yeah, see Apple got all bent out of shape about flash. Now Adobe decided to skimp on the graphics acceleration for Flash on OSX. OSX's reputation was stained by lacking in API flexibility some even say the API is less substantial than Windows because its an incomplete API - not being an Apple programmer I dont know, but whats publicized in the news I do.
As for this meeting who knows if this is just Adobe threatening Apple's marketshare here via press and FUD or if its an honest business to business arrangement being made. Adobe has made it fairly clear support for Graphical Applications for Apple isn't something they are going to do as well from here on. Maybe this is just the next step, or maybe not.
My opinion is that this MS / Adobe alliance is just a show and pony parade. Just like the acquisition of Yahoo with MS or Apple. Then the FUD suggested that Apple was going to form an alliance with MS so on and so fourth.
To me it just looks like MS is still the market leader and everyone 'pretends' to be in bed with them just to scare their opponent. Rarely does it happen as it did in the past. Besides what are you going to cover in an hr meeting? I tell ya, you'll get a cup of coffee, a danish and shoot the breeze about your weekend, a 1HR meeting is hardly enough time to decide the futures of two leading vendors in the IT market.
Considering that this guy recons its 100% possible.
I'm waiting for ICAAN to release TLD's so make way for this new planet. I'm thinking .erth for us and .glse for them.
Not worth it. I pinged them and haven't got a response. They're gonna have to do something about that latency problem on their end before ICAAN will bother.
Yes I could imagine the ping response ...
root@localhost# ping www.google.com.glse
PING www.google.com.glse (66.230.200.100) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from www.google.com.glse (66.102.11.104.76.65.45): icmp_seq=1 ttl=52 time=40 y
64 bytes from www.google.com.glse (66.102.11.104.76.65.45): icmp_seq=2 ttl=52 time=40 y
64 bytes from www.google.com.glse (66.102.11.104.76.65.45): icmp_seq=3 ttl=52 time=40 y
64 bytes from www.google.com.glse (66.102.11.104.76.65.45): icmp_seq=4 ttl=52 time=40 y
64 bytes from www.google.com.glse (66.102.11.104.76.65.45): icmp_seq=5 ttl=52 time=40 y
64 bytes from www.google.com.glse (66.102.11.104.76.65.45): icmp_seq=6 ttl=52 time=40 y
Considering that this guy recons its 100% possible.
I'm waiting for ICAAN to release TLD's so make way for this new planet. I'm thinking .erth for us and .glse for them.
But what lack of features? Saying the same thing over and over again doesn't just make it true. And FWIW, some of the iPad branded websites are fantastic. Is it ABC that has a site where you can swipe left and right between articles?
Lack of features here goes ...
Slashdot - Only recently made the login process 'usable' on the iPad. The opacity change in the background and the login section was VERY difficult to use. I'd go as far as saying broken and dodgy.
Facebook - try and use the jQuery like search interface to look for friends, its broken.
YouTube - ever tried to search for "latest uploaded videos" or sort the search queries? very limiting, on several occasions I've simply given up on using YT on the iPad. Walked over to my PC to find the clip i was looking for. 2 mins on the PC, 20 mins of sh*ting and f*cking on my iPad till i gave up.
Newspapers - Australian based newspaper reading is nothing short of a complicated and sits on a broken half done interface (a lot of it is WIP). It works well on the iPhone, iPad not so much.
Finding text within Web Pages - Please direct me to the "find" or "find next" feature on the iPad?
No Extension Management - Simple things like Google toolbar is not possible. Web Developer tools? view source? without even the option of these things it makes it useless for any professional web person.
Unable to Download Media - I wont regurgitate the no flash argument but if it aint QuickTime it rarely works, in fact mp3, avi all those formats are BUGGY at best. And dont worry about having the capacity to save anything. I'm just curious on how Jobs expects to use the whopping 64 gig he gave us *sarcasm*
The list goes on .... and on .... and on ...
What's the problem with Google Apps? I generally have found them fairly half-assed and never use them, so I can't say I've ever even tried them on the iPad, but I'd be curious to hear what's wrong.
Similar problem as the Newspaper Issue (News LTD). Written to work for the iPhone but not the iPad. Screen stretching isn't there on spreadsheets so the top section stops at iPhone width, in fact you doesn't have a footer the app magically just stops. On the desktop its far more substantial and a lot more usable.
I have an iPad as well, and quite like it. Still waiting for iOS4 ... travesty that it's not out yet. I don't find it that significantly lacking vis-a-vis my other computers.
Maybe it comes down the to type of user, for me who practically lives on the internet as apart of his job my iPad gathers a lot of dust. Believe me when I say i wish it wouldn't.
STRONGLY disagree. I have a canon powershot and a canon rebel xt. I like photography a lot. Most of the time, I don't have my cameras with me, but I always have my cellphone with me. Amongst geeks / photo-enthusiasts, certainly people understand how inferior any cellphone camera is, but the sheer volume of photos has to go to cellphone pictures. It is very much a big deal for a lot of people.
Again same as above, I don't believe a lot of people are in this boat. I believe a small percentage is but you'll find 8 x out of 10 people just want a phone to be phone. The camera is only an extra and there to take snaps of your drunk mates to use as bribery material later - it doesn't need to be airbrushed and polished and stuck on a magazine cover, it just needs to be recognizable.
I have both. I still use the iphone a lot. Hell, my wife even uses iBook on her iPhone. I can't do that, but she does.
Okay so your in agreeing that reading books on the iPhone sucks. Now consider if your to sit on the PC for an 1hr or so reading a technical reference like docs.php.net on the iPhone. You can't, great for getting the number of the local pizza place, bad for serious research work / study / etc.
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/mac-versus-windows-vulnerability-stats-for-2007/758
Granted more Extremely High for Vista but the 200 odd of OSX I believe trumps that.
As for the iPad it's WIP - so much of it doesn't work the way it could. Safari is seriously limited with its lacking of features on big brand websites the fact companies have to create "iPad friendly sites" is becoming more apparent therefore it's going to take time to bring iPad into the fold. Google Apps are a perfect example of how half assed the iPad is.
The problems for iPad go on but i wont entertain them and make this post too long winded. I'm an iPad owner and i only use it with 3g when I'm travelling. Its thin and easy to carry but holds less for what its worth. It's not worthwhile at home except for when i want to surf the web on the cann. Its lack of web browsing features means I'm forced to use the desktop or laptop.
Re - iPhone 4, its a _PHONE_ replacing their crap camera with a slightly less crap camera isn't a great selling point. If that really matters to you go right a head and buy one. Most people would opt up and buy a camera from a camera store.
Improved screens, great, a small screen which is too small to view websites is now improved, great. iPhones are terrible for web viewing and you can't "really" surf the web on one of them, only for quick referencing and finding out stuff on the fly. The retina concept will probably stop long term use of straining your eyes to try and view tiny renderings of websites and prevent people from going blind but thats it but IMHO the iPhone isn't a web surfing tool anyway. Get an iPad then go back to the use the iPhone, trust me you'll never use the iPhone to view another website ever again.
No need for a citation here, use commonsense. Whose going to exploit a music player and to what end? iPhone and iPod touch has brought the concept of Jailbreaking in to the fold and is massive part of this. Hows this not hacking for commercial gain? have you not seen the Rock app?
There has been several damaging exploits dated back to 2009. Some of which use SMS to exploit the phone, a recent one which takes all of the contact info off the phone via an SMS.
Apple is not infallible and its now targeted, being ignorant to that is just plain silly.
Absolute fantasy! Apple is unprepared for security and the way the iPad has been cobbled together is proof of this. Their software hasn't been targeted until now and the exploitation of Apple products _are_ becoming more commonplace.
You cant compare it to how Windows was back in the day or any notions like that because Apple is currently going through what Microsoft was unprepared for back then but with a more sophisticated mindset and strategy (crackers / cyber-criminals are smarter these days). Apple based itself on UNIX around the time the internet became common in the household as a result saved them a fair amount of grief but hardly places it as a more secure product in todays world.
The lack of Apples popularity had always kept them in niche marketplaces until now but the iPhone now makes them commonplace and popular enough to mean money for blackmarket hacking. This doesn't mean its more secure its totally the opposite. It means it's less secure because it hasn't been targeted until now. In fact I'd spout there are just as many exploits in the wild for iOS and MacOS as there is for Windows Vista in present day.
For companies a high patch rate and focus on security means a hampering of innovation because development resources becomes focused on fixing problems rather than creating new features. Truthfully, the iPad is a product of that hampering, from my experience its like using a half built house with its scaffolding still attached too it and for the iPhone 4 even the sales people at the phone store cant find feature lists convincing enough to get me to upgrade from a 3GS to a 4. The question "why should i upgrade?" doesn't get answered with a solid response.
Did we get any of those iPhone 4 sales through the roof crap this month on /. ? No Thank God!!!
We haven't considered that HP may of been able to invent hand-held blackholes.
If it means the cost of manufacturing requires a LHC per device, in theory it should be cheaper than the iPad.
Yeah, but he doesn't need to reject flash ...
The concept of what Jobs is doing has become convoluted. I'm a programmer and I write features on software I personally don't like all the time. If I have a problem with a feature for any reason I raise it with the client and recommend alternatives but when the foot goes down on what they request I then go and write it. Even if the feature is stupid, inefficient or just plain wrong people at the end of the day want what they want.
There is a demand for flash on iDevices and to keep those customers happy and follow his "Apple Philosophy" about creating the best product possible. He should make flash optional, chuck a nasty disclaimer in about security (like they have on cigarette packets). Close the argument off and move on.
Rather, he attacks flash on his website, he makes spectacles about how bad it is which the media laps up and continues to drive it as an issue. Looks to me like a vendetta against flash, nothing more.
So ... how do get it to stop chewing on your nuts?
Posted from my iPad.
How long did it take to type in :) ...
I've tried to slashdot on my iPad, login box screws up and it takes punch in send comments.
Thanks. The guy in question is fairly high up the food chain in vulnerability assessment (and works for one of the 3 big AV companies).
I can safely say everyone working in the security industry is beating their knife and fork at the dinner table waiting for Apple to screw up in this way. Not to take a shot at Apple, moreover, wanting to be the first company to be able to "save" Apple and be the front runner in SmartPhone AV.
I'm going to respond back to his email with some of the things you raised. I'll also see if he was able to track any outgoing data off the iPhone, as it stands I wouldn't be surprised if it is just a face value hack and no data is stolen but he has said contacts and emails do get sent.
For a moment i thought it could of been a strcat() exploit, using the rejoin of SMS's to smash the stack (I know a little old school but you never know).
I'd like to pass something back to the guy who discovered this bug. So just a few Q's.
If its social engineering its still a concern because it falls within criteria of "security exploit". If so to what end does this help a hacker gain access? Unless you're stipulating is its just a mere prank/joke.
Class 0 SMS or not, shouldn't there be something at the application level to stop it from putting up nasties on the screen? Does pressing "dismiss" get rid of it?
A friend of a friend is the publisher of the article, he waited a good week before submitting publicly.
The issue they've found is that an incoming sms causes all the contacts, calendar and emails get shipped off to a remote server.
Apple and Telstra has tried to keep a lid on it as much as they can, the consultant who initially found it has discovered 9 iPhones over the past week with same symptoms.