I have to say that almost everything in the kids product world could be ridiculed this way like Fish Price and Cabbige Patch or even Barbie. _They_ all inadvertantly indoctrate kids in one way, realistically you cant stop children from developing influenced behaviour from using various products and the parent who attempt to stop these things influencing their kids because they believe that its "evil" usually produce children who function badly in society.
I hardly think that its an indoctranation using Linux, perhaps the biggest thing that will be impressed on the kids will be the cuddly penguin and perhaps increase stuffed penguin sales. It really seems like a great idea and hopefully Toy vendors actually see it in working action and actually plan the usage of their Toys around it.
I was mearly stating since i switched from the older versions it perfoms allot quicker on my pc, I cant really disagree with the fact that it eats memory though.. I was checking it on my process list it uses about 41232 RSS and for VSZ its above 61000
Tell me with a straight face that this is a smooth product and a worthy award winner.....
Thats a bit harsh though even if it does eat a fair wack of memory its still a good program and a better alternative than IE (though i dont know why i'd bother to try and get it working under wine:P). As for opera, have it, detest it, regret installing it and i'd pefer to use lynx..
Firefox is what I would recommend to anyone needing a web browser, but it's still got tons of problems. It's a hog, a complete hog. Of course there are plenty of factors to blame - but it doesn't remove the problem.
Have you seen 1.5? Allot smoother to operate than previous versions i have to say..
I can totally understand why Dell is there, the sales model behind Dell is brilliant. You dont need to see a PC before you buy it unless you get off on fancy cases and sexy keyboards.
So for 90% of people who need a new computer they need it to be a) cheap b) working order with good support, Dell provides this without the shopfront therefore reduces overall cost. They also offer good server products with easy to setup business leases and an array of SLA services so they have that market in the bag.
I guess the only real market they dont reach are the gamers who want to custom build their PCs to be a 900lb gorilla in system performance. But still they are flexible enough to cater to these people if need be.
The fact its listed more then once, i agree could be considered a bit of the top and the fact they are getting praise for specific peripherals like monitors is a bit odd if you ask me... seems like the list is a little bit too 'particular' on personal favoriates rather then a soildly investigated and surveyed top 100.
My expeirence in Sci-Fi TV has reveiled to me that proper methods of deterimining true AI is by plugging the system into the US defense system and seeing whether or not it will enslave mankind.
Was NT was designed to be (in 1988) - and has been since release (in 1993) - a fully multiuser OS.
Yeah the above post explains the two linages a bit better, i should of been a bit clearer in stating XP was the 1st desktop OS to really uphold the multi-user advantage.
I can see what your saying as I perhaps jumped a little bit off topic with my original post by using memory protection as a point of argument because it more so outlines the fact that it stops the OS from acting like a deck cards when there's problems on an application level and doesn't really pertain to legacy and backward compatibility development which MS has to be aware of when designing patches.
I'm intrigued by the OSX design though as it above all seems like the most sensible approach and something that the other OS models could really lend from particularly windows in this case.
The OSS method is definitely has this edge, people love to badger and say Linux's design is not concise and its just hacked together left right and centre. From my view I know enough about the Linux kernel to know people who say this have never really looked at the Linux kernel source or even understand the theoretics behind Linux and if they have never looked at it closely enough and actually seen some of the extraordinary methods of implementation it upholds, which of course has been lended from allot of various methods and standards of the UNIX flavors.
Now you look at the BSDS and perhaps they have a bit more stricter order because they are not out to portablise as massively as Linux so its source files are not nearly as large but these sets of OS' also uphold the same concise nature.
I guess what my point here is that the OSS models of Operating System design are figuratively built around various core sub systems, with others built on top of one another then when you step out of the kernel the system is still layered but in a way that even though other systems rely on each other they are still strictly independent of each other, until you reach the application level where it pretty much takes exactly what it needs and then utilises it.
In Windows, I profess I know SFA about its real design I dare say allot of people are in this boat because the system is closed source but it seems to me that the only reason why these inter-dependant systems (and I'm going from what your saying here) fails and consistency of its sub systems are just available comes down to a lot of reasons. Perhaps one of the biggest ones which are commonly overlooked is that Windows wasn't originally intended to be a multi-user OS and it only reached a half decent level of multi-user capability when XP was released.
I have to say when I saw the way XP worked, my initial thoughts were, "ahhh Microsoft has finally caught on to the benefits of a real multi-user platform" by putting in decent a memory protection subsystem but I've always said also "its not nearly mature enough yet and still needs a lot of work before it can compared to the *nix's".
It makes you really think who the real 'hackers' are with OS's like Linux that have a concise design whilst Windows codes into each other causes inter-dependency issues once patched:)
Most people don't know what Linux or *BSD is, much less care. Also, I think you'll find that even if they do know about *nix, they still won't care too much.
This is exactly what im trying to say! Forget if its not broken nonsense, not many people have had the choise this is exactly what im getting at, i recon if people did there would be a percentile which would switch sides of the fence.
Haven't used it too much lately, have you? XP actually managed to resolve most of the stability issues.
Again I didnt question the stability, i said its widly known to cause issues. EG i work in an office full of IT people that spend all day moaning and groaning about instabilites of windows, this problem that problem blah blah i get it all day. Same with the accounts person when ever something doesnt go right for her, instant blame windows.
I was using linux long before you could just pop in an install cd, slap a pinguin on your monitor and consider yourself part of a grand community of cyber-hippies. I was using linux while most of the linux "fanboys" that constantly karma whore on/. were (I'm assuming) still in grade school.
Ahh your one of these people "Oh in my day i used to walk on hands and knees over 5 miles of broken glass to reach my wang terminal so i can etch binary in a water cracker stick it up my ass and make out like i walked the earth before everyone else who has ever touched a keybord..."
Geesh what a looser, at least i dont have this huge egotistical view of myself like i was born into this world for computers and everyone beneith me are just minions, you dont know nothing about me and to be as smart as you are to attempt to dissect my artical you obviously didnt read it well enough to understand the jist of it. I suggest trying to actually read otherwise go back to your wang terminal and and attempt to jack off at monocrome cga graphic photos of marilyn monroe or who ever was your teenage heart throb you fucking fag!
Freedom of speech is completly different from slander and personal resentment...
Here is an example
"it is believed that your a fucking asshole" but thats my opinion and therefore freedom of speech.
"i have proof that your a fucking asshole" slander and personal resentment if i dont have anything of real substance behind me.
It is quite clear this guy is attacking a free source development team for his own personal motives, i dont believe for a second that GNOME is as horrible as makes it out to be but he seems to only outline the worst aspects and also put commentry about how badly formed the social aspects of the dev team are, further he hasnt given actual real referrences insted just 1 stupid screen shot of his desktop... great use of freedom of speech *roll eyes*..
Did your therapist suggest that it would be a good idea to publicly reconcile that you are responsible for contributing shonky coding to the Open Source community?
OR
Are you jealous and angry with your ex-codevelopers because they could program better then you?
OR
Are you just overly arrogant and think your better then the entire GNOME development team?
My guess is that you are guilty of one of these three things because quite sincerely buddy, you have no right to make such accusations on a public forum or post to news threads like this and you really need to seek some professional help.
microsoft has some of the most intelligent individuals on the planet working for them, never mind the fact that they're highly compensated, work on projects full time, etc.
GNU (what Linux utilises), BSD, Unix (the original) all made by academic NUTS working in university labratories and linux to this day is contributed by arrays of academics around the world who structure the os in the most efficent way possible.
Now lets take a look at microsoft, dos originally purchased off a uni student who didnt quite finish it, windows ripped off from xerox so someone else made this. When it became a streamline it started getting patched and blundered left right and centre this is what we call windows nt and windows ME (you remember these guys, ms would perfer they didnt).
Now as far as secruity is concerend its only in the last couple of years have they realised this issue needed to be remedied.. On top of all this they've even suggested (microsoft this is) that they should recode the whole thing from scratch because its so botched togeather..
I remember hearing that ms purchased themselves some sun programmers at one stage and sure they have piles of very good programmers working for them in their offices but you know your dead right about one thing..
Your right about highly compensated and work on fulltime projects, but heck these projects have timeframes, deadlines and ofcourse viability factors, and viability of secruity was not recognised seriously by windows until the days of xp. On top of this deadlines sacrafise quality, not a problem in linux world because deadlines are not enforced passion, drive and excellence in knowelege is linux's underlaying strength, not making somebody else millions and billions of dallors.
it's amazing you guys delude yourself into believing you can seriously compete with one of the largest corporations in the world.
Linux has never gone out of its way to compete directly with microsoft, you dont hear the CEO of RedHat raving and romping around the office throwing chairs saying their going to kill their competition and you defintly dont see linux advocates stopping _anything_ that microsoft does directly, they mearly just do what they do and this is what directly affects ms (not the other way around).
Microsoft competes with linux, one reason, scared.. why? linux is the better product but just like in the movie Pirates of Silicone Valley when Billy Gates character turned and faced the Steve Jobs character in the final few scenes and Steve Jobs said "we have a better product" Bill Gates said "it doesnt matter".. Too bad that internet and computers are evolving to the point where people are beginning to realise it does matter and for a lot of reasons.. but its up the experts to set the trends.
I recommend that you go back to msfanboys.com chat forum and worship your evil underlord billy gates someplace else..
Only 7-15% reported being unhappy with existing OS (i.e., windoze).
the question i have is that ms FUD? or is that because users havent experienced anything better?
windows is widly known to be unstable and problematic so badly now that even when its not these things people still label it as such and from my experience everyone loves to bag ms, even the non geekish users...
However, herein lies an important point; users are users, they rate what they can see, the GUI and the apps. They'd have to be working in a very strange company to be allowed to, for example, discover how much easier life is when config is all done by plain text files, i.e., to learn and appreciate the beauty of *nix. Thus, I'm really not sure how they are in a position to rate the OS/kernel.
I relate this to my above comments about users not really knowing anything better then windows, i suggest looking at what the newer distros of linux have to offer, perhaps looking at xandros or even suse, the problems that your discussing have been and gone along time ago. You have the advanced textfile based distros, slackware and debian (which even now can utilise the gui config apps if need be), then you have the simpleton versions xandros, suse, mandriva, etc
Yep, and let's face it, an Operating System is not the first gift you'd think of giving, nor would there be much Vista-based software available. Can't imagine why they think getting it out in time for Christmas is in any way important!
You know after reading your post i had a sudden flash of this evil grinch like santa wearing thick glasses, having a bowl haircut (real 70's like) and the windows emblem printed on the side of his bag of goodies. Going from house to house replacing peoples linux distribution pressies with copies of vista.
Now imagine being that poor let down 10yr old child screaming in dismay... MUM!!! I TOLD YOU I DIDNT WANT THIS PROPEITRY SOFTWARE TRASH!!!
And yes i know the hole in this plot, if your giving copies of linux to people for xmas you must be a real cheapskate.
obviously the articals' release date was later then expected, maybe someone wanted to ensure the quality of the information presented... which i cant say is true for the subject at hand...
SO they take the product that has had tons of problems and MOVE UP the release date? Wow. . . I hope its perfect. No that a few months will make a difference at this point. ..
Well they have to be able to find a way to top the xbox 360 release
So half a dozen out of the hundreds of thousands of new Xbox 360 owners are having problems. Why does Slashdot have to state "Xbox 360 Very Unstable"? I've had bad installs of Linux too. Would we see the headline on Slashdot "Linux Very Unstable" too?
Just like Windows is cheaper to run then Linux and that Windows out performs Linux in security and efficiency, and let me see that firefox is less secure then IE.
Microsoft is reputable for blaming the world on everything else but themselves and making themselves look good by blaintly lieing about the whole issue to work in their favor...
Come on, its Microsoft have a bit of fun with this as I think its only fair that the anti-ms community gets at least this minor problem to relish in... heck with all the media hype they have gernerated and the fact that they were pushing to get this system out in the market asap i think its only fair...
The only problem I see with purchasing a ps3 is the fact that as soon as you plug it in it will set itself up with a GPS tracking device pin pointing the exact whereabouts and trajectarory of your house pets, an in house surveillance unit with a video / audio feed that goes straight back to sonyhq, and will begin infecting all surrounding technology with it's drm rootkit that you'll find next to impossible to remove from your dvd player!
I recon its a great idea to avoid phising sites, maybe from a nerds point of view it isnt so great for the avg joe it looks like a winner.
The only problems i have is the fact that the newer versions of ie will incorpoerate tabbed browsing and the MSN search tool which looks almost exactly like the firefox search tool... After ie 7 i dont want to hear another word about other software vendors floggins ideas from ms, it goes to show how much they all flog from each other...
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I have to say that almost everything in the kids product world could be ridiculed this way like Fish Price and Cabbige Patch or even Barbie. _They_ all inadvertantly indoctrate kids in one way, realistically you cant stop children from developing influenced behaviour from using various products and the parent who attempt to stop these things influencing their kids because they believe that its "evil" usually produce children who function badly in society.
I hardly think that its an indoctranation using Linux, perhaps the biggest thing that will be impressed on the kids will be the cuddly penguin and perhaps increase stuffed penguin sales. It really seems like a great idea and hopefully Toy vendors actually see it in working action and actually plan the usage of their Toys around it.
I was mearly stating since i switched from the older versions it perfoms allot quicker on my pc, I cant really disagree with the fact that it eats memory though .. I was checking it on my process list it uses about 41232 RSS and for VSZ its above 61000
Tell me with a straight face that this is a smooth product and a worthy award winner.....
Thats a bit harsh though even if it does eat a fair wack of memory its still a good program and a better alternative than IE (though i dont know why i'd bother to try and get it working under wine :P). As for opera, have it, detest it, regret installing it and i'd pefer to use lynx ..
Firefox is what I would recommend to anyone needing a web browser, but it's still got tons of problems. It's a hog, a complete hog. Of course there are plenty of factors to blame - but it doesn't remove the problem.
Have you seen 1.5? Allot smoother to operate than previous versions i have to say..
I can totally understand why Dell is there, the sales model behind Dell is brilliant. You dont need to see a PC before you buy it unless you get off on fancy cases and sexy keyboards.
... seems like the list is a little bit too 'particular' on personal favoriates rather then a soildly investigated and surveyed top 100.
So for 90% of people who need a new computer they need it to be a) cheap b) working order with good support, Dell provides this without the shopfront therefore reduces overall cost. They also offer good server products with easy to setup business leases and an array of SLA services so they have that market in the bag.
I guess the only real market they dont reach are the gamers who want to custom build their PCs to be a 900lb gorilla in system performance. But still they are flexible enough to cater to these people if need be.
The fact its listed more then once, i agree could be considered a bit of the top and the fact they are getting praise for specific peripherals like monitors is a bit odd if you ask me
My expeirence in Sci-Fi TV has reveiled to me that proper methods of deterimining true AI is by plugging the system into the US defense system and seeing whether or not it will enslave mankind.
Thennn they'll have something to boast about...
Was NT was designed to be (in 1988) - and has been since release (in 1993) - a fully multiuser OS.
Yeah the above post explains the two linages a bit better, i should of been a bit clearer in stating XP was the 1st desktop OS to really uphold the multi-user advantage.
I can see what your saying as I perhaps jumped a little bit off topic with my original post by using memory protection as a point of argument because it more so outlines the fact that it stops the OS from acting like a deck cards when there's problems on an application level and doesn't really pertain to legacy and backward compatibility development which MS has to be aware of when designing patches.
I'm intrigued by the OSX design though as it above all seems like the most sensible approach and something that the other OS models could really lend from particularly windows in this case.
The OSS method is definitely has this edge, people love to badger and say Linux's design is not concise and its just hacked together left right and centre. From my view I know enough about the Linux kernel to know people who say this have never really looked at the Linux kernel source or even understand the theoretics behind Linux and if they have never looked at it closely enough and actually seen some of the extraordinary methods of implementation it upholds, which of course has been lended from allot of various methods and standards of the UNIX flavors.
:)
Now you look at the BSDS and perhaps they have a bit more stricter order because they are not out to portablise as massively as Linux so its source files are not nearly as large but these sets of OS' also uphold the same concise nature.
I guess what my point here is that the OSS models of Operating System design are figuratively built around various core sub systems, with others built on top of one another then when you step out of the kernel the system is still layered but in a way that even though other systems rely on each other they are still strictly independent of each other, until you reach the application level where it pretty much takes exactly what it needs and then utilises it.
In Windows, I profess I know SFA about its real design I dare say allot of people are in this boat because the system is closed source but it seems to me that the only reason why these inter-dependant systems (and I'm going from what your saying here) fails and consistency of its sub systems are just available comes down to a lot of reasons. Perhaps one of the biggest ones which are commonly overlooked is that Windows wasn't originally intended to be a multi-user OS and it only reached a half decent level of multi-user capability when XP was released.
I have to say when I saw the way XP worked, my initial thoughts were, "ahhh Microsoft has finally caught on to the benefits of a real multi-user platform" by putting in decent a memory protection subsystem but I've always said also "its not nearly mature enough yet and still needs a lot of work before it can compared to the *nix's".
It makes you really think who the real 'hackers' are with OS's like Linux that have a concise design whilst Windows codes into each other causes inter-dependency issues once patched
Besides, what's this guy's problem anyway? He's got the source, why doesn't he just fix the bugs?
Maybe this might have something to do with it, too much inflamation made the poor chum a bit moody i recon
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=169834&cidOkay okay, i have to ask the questions on everyones mind after your statement? Are you a goat aswell?
Congratulations Mr Stern for such a Vivid description of your prostate:
- opal.html
http://www.therockalltimes.co.uk/2005/10/10/stern
Can we really rely on this mans advice to influence us? I did after reading this artical and the mental imagery wasnt all that great.
If the metals are rare on Earth as well, and they're common on Mars, they could provide a potential export source.
So you think the mars martians are willing to establish an export agreement trade with earth?
okay look can you please read my thread again ..
Most people don't know what Linux or *BSD is, much less care. Also, I think you'll find that even if they do know about *nix, they still won't care too much.
This is exactly what im trying to say! Forget if its not broken nonsense, not many people have had the choise this is exactly what im getting at, i recon if people did there would be a percentile which would switch sides of the fence.
Haven't used it too much lately, have you? XP actually managed to resolve most of the stability issues.
Again I didnt question the stability, i said its widly known to cause issues. EG i work in an office full of IT people that spend all day moaning and groaning about instabilites of windows, this problem that problem blah blah i get it all day. Same with the accounts person when ever something doesnt go right for her, instant blame windows.
I was using linux long before you could just pop in an install cd, slap a pinguin on your monitor and consider yourself part of a grand community of cyber-hippies. I was using linux while most of the linux "fanboys" that constantly karma whore on /. were (I'm assuming) still in grade school.
Ahh your one of these people "Oh in my day i used to walk on hands and knees over 5 miles of broken glass to reach my wang terminal so i can etch binary in a water cracker stick it up my ass and make out like i walked the earth before everyone else who has ever touched a keybord..."
Geesh what a looser, at least i dont have this huge egotistical view of myself like i was born into this world for computers and everyone beneith me are just minions, you dont know nothing about me and to be as smart as you are to attempt to dissect my artical you obviously didnt read it well enough to understand the jist of it. I suggest trying to actually read otherwise go back to your wang terminal and and attempt to jack off at monocrome cga graphic photos of marilyn monroe or who ever was your teenage heart throb you fucking fag!
Freedom of speech is completly different from slander and personal resentment ...
..
Here is an example
"it is believed that your a fucking asshole" but thats my opinion and therefore freedom of speech.
"i have proof that your a fucking asshole" slander and personal resentment if i dont have anything of real substance behind me.
It is quite clear this guy is attacking a free source development team for his own personal motives, i dont believe for a second that GNOME is as horrible as makes it out to be but he seems to only outline the worst aspects and also put commentry about how badly formed the social aspects of the dev team are, further he hasnt given actual real referrences insted just 1 stupid screen shot of his desktop... great use of freedom of speech *roll eyes*
Did your therapist suggest that it would be a good idea to publicly reconcile that you are responsible for contributing shonky coding to the Open Source community?
OR
Are you jealous and angry with your ex-codevelopers because they could program better then you?
OR
Are you just overly arrogant and think your better then the entire GNOME development team?
My guess is that you are guilty of one of these three things because quite sincerely buddy, you have no right to make such accusations on a public forum or post to news threads like this and you really need to seek some professional help.
microsoft has some of the most intelligent individuals on the planet working for them, never mind the fact that they're highly compensated, work on projects full time, etc.
GNU (what Linux utilises), BSD, Unix (the original) all made by academic NUTS working in university labratories and linux to this day is contributed by arrays of academics around the world who structure the os in the most efficent way possible.
Now lets take a look at microsoft, dos originally purchased off a uni student who didnt quite finish it, windows ripped off from xerox so someone else made this. When it became a streamline it started getting patched and blundered left right and centre this is what we call windows nt and windows ME (you remember these guys, ms would perfer they didnt).
Now as far as secruity is concerend its only in the last couple of years have they realised this issue needed to be remedied.. On top of all this they've even suggested (microsoft this is) that they should recode the whole thing from scratch because its so botched togeather..
I remember hearing that ms purchased themselves some sun programmers at one stage and sure they have piles of very good programmers working for them in their offices but you know your dead right about one thing ..
Your right about highly compensated and work on fulltime projects, but heck these projects have timeframes, deadlines and ofcourse viability factors, and viability of secruity was not recognised seriously by windows until the days of xp. On top of this deadlines sacrafise quality, not a problem in linux world because deadlines are not enforced passion, drive and excellence in knowelege is linux's underlaying strength, not making somebody else millions and billions of dallors.
it's amazing you guys delude yourself into believing you can seriously compete with one of the largest corporations in the world.
Linux has never gone out of its way to compete directly with microsoft, you dont hear the CEO of RedHat raving and romping around the office throwing chairs saying their going to kill their competition and you defintly dont see linux advocates stopping _anything_ that microsoft does directly, they mearly just do what they do and this is what directly affects ms (not the other way around).
Microsoft competes with linux, one reason, scared.. why? linux is the better product but just like in the movie Pirates of Silicone Valley when Billy Gates character turned and faced the Steve Jobs character in the final few scenes and Steve Jobs said "we have a better product" Bill Gates said "it doesnt matter" .. Too bad that internet and computers are evolving to the point where people are beginning to realise it does matter and for a lot of reasons.. but its up the experts to set the trends.
I recommend that you go back to msfanboys.com chat forum and worship your evil underlord billy gates someplace else ..
Only 7-15% reported being unhappy with existing OS (i.e., windoze).
the question i have is that ms FUD? or is that because users havent experienced anything better?
windows is widly known to be unstable and problematic so badly now that even when its not these things people still label it as such and from my experience everyone loves to bag ms, even the non geekish users ...
However, herein lies an important point; users are users, they rate what they can see, the GUI and the apps. They'd have to be working in a very strange company to be allowed to, for example, discover how much easier life is when config is all done by plain text files, i.e., to learn and appreciate the beauty of *nix. Thus, I'm really not sure how they are in a position to rate the OS/kernel.
I relate this to my above comments about users not really knowing anything better then windows, i suggest looking at what the newer distros of linux have to offer, perhaps looking at xandros or even suse, the problems that your discussing have been and gone along time ago. You have the advanced textfile based distros, slackware and debian (which even now can utilise the gui config apps if need be), then you have the simpleton versions xandros, suse, mandriva, etc
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Doesnt look like a very non-bias opinion if you ask me ..
Yep, and let's face it, an Operating System is not the first gift you'd think of giving, nor would there be much Vista-based software available. Can't imagine why they think getting it out in time for Christmas is in any way important!
You know after reading your post i had a sudden flash of this evil grinch like santa wearing thick glasses, having a bowl haircut (real 70's like) and the windows emblem printed on the side of his bag of goodies. Going from house to house replacing peoples linux distribution pressies with copies of vista.
Now imagine being that poor let down 10yr old child screaming in dismay ... MUM!!! I TOLD YOU I DIDNT WANT THIS PROPEITRY SOFTWARE TRASH!!!
And yes i know the hole in this plot, if your giving copies of linux to people for xmas you must be a real cheapskate.
obviously the articals' release date was later then expected, maybe someone wanted to ensure the quality of the information presented... which i cant say is true for the subject at hand ...
SO they take the product that has had tons of problems and MOVE UP the release date? Wow. . . I hope its perfect. No that a few months will make a difference at this point. . .
Well they have to be able to find a way to top the xbox 360 release
So half a dozen out of the hundreds of thousands of new Xbox 360 owners are having problems. Why does Slashdot have to state "Xbox 360 Very Unstable"? I've had bad installs of Linux too. Would we see the headline on Slashdot "Linux Very Unstable" too?
Just like Windows is cheaper to run then Linux and that Windows out performs Linux in security and efficiency, and let me see that firefox is less secure then IE.
Microsoft is reputable for blaming the world on everything else but themselves and making themselves look good by blaintly lieing about the whole issue to work in their favor ...
Come on, its Microsoft have a bit of fun with this as I think its only fair that the anti-ms community gets at least this minor problem to relish in ... heck with all the media hype they have gernerated and the fact that they were pushing to get this system out in the market asap i think its only fair ...
The only problem I see with purchasing a ps3 is the fact that as soon as you plug it in it will set itself up with a GPS tracking device pin pointing the exact whereabouts and trajectarory of your house pets, an in house surveillance unit with a video / audio feed that goes straight back to sonyhq, and will begin infecting all surrounding technology with it's drm rootkit that you'll find next to impossible to remove from your dvd player!
I recon its a great idea to avoid phising sites, maybe from a nerds point of view it isnt so great for the avg joe it looks like a winner.
... After ie 7 i dont want to hear another word about other software vendors floggins ideas from ms, it goes to show how much they all flog from each other ...
The only problems i have is the fact that the newer versions of ie will incorpoerate tabbed browsing and the MSN search tool which looks almost exactly like the firefox search tool