Because of Microsoft's stranglehold on the desktop OS market and because of Microsoft's questionable deals with OEMs, people get Windows shoved down their throats. Because of people being forced to use Windows and because of Microsoft's monopolistic business practices, people get Internet Explorer shoved down their throats. Because of people being forced to use Internet Explorer and because of Microsoft's laziness in patching security vulnerabilities in Internet Explorer, people get viruses and spyware shoved down their throats.
He just said that he's in charge of investing in technology. There are probably other people investing in other areas, considering that it is an investment club. Don't jump to conclusions like that.
Most people can't set the clocks on their VCRs because it usually requires some odd, non-intuitive button combination to do so. There's that, and the fact that people don't want to reset the clocks every time to power goes out, they unplug the VCR, etc.
That's not necessarily true. The machine could be made to print the votes that the voter made on paper, but to actually submit fixed votes electronically.
While your argument is logical and I agree with it, remember that we're dealing with politicians here. I don't mean to stereotype, but most politicians want to return to their offices, and will do what they can to keep voter support. Unfortunately, even though open source is a great move in the long term, it has many short term setbacks. Voters may get upset if the government is perceived as wasting time and money (two huge short term losses) on the transition to open source, and those politicians backing open source could be shown the door.
I'm sure a large part of the reason that people don't care about software freedom is because they don't know it exists. If we could explain to them that open source software is not only free as in beer, but as in freedom as well, then they would probably agree with us. Tell them about how they're allowed to modify and redistribute open source software, but they might not care. Then tell them the true advantages of open source. Microsoft could discontinue support for all their old Microsoft Offfice formats in their next version, and there wouldn't be a thing we could do about it. If OpenOffice also scrapped all old formats, there would still be hope. Not only are there many other open source (and some closed source) programs that could handle the open formats, but we could go back through old source code to gain an understanding of OpenDocument (or any other open format in OpenOffice) and implement it in another program. For that matter, OpenDocument is just a specially organized zip file (I think so at least, but I know it's some compressed format.), so we could simply extract it and see the original document in plain text. Now that's open. You don't have to be that technical in explaining it, but I think you get the point.
That's completely wrong. Microsoft is suggesting that Novell needs protection from being sued. Unlike robbing someone, suing someone is a perfectly valid legal process. Legally, as far as I know and barring possible monopoly abuse, there's nothing wrong with what Microsoft is doing. Ethically, morally, logically, and ideologically, it's a completely different issue.
This just doesn't sound right. Here we have a known monopoly, with strong control of the desktop operating system and office suite markets. Isn't it in the slightest bit anti-competitive for them to offer this free to anybody but their competitors? I'm no expert on the legal side of things, but this is the exact kind of thing that anti-trust laws are supposed to prevent.
Does anyone know if Konqueror (using KDE Wallet) is affected? And what about other browsers, like Opera, Epiphany, and so on? I'd just like to know how common this type of exploit is.
Seriously, that's it. Put big (and I mean BIG) shortcuts with generic names on the desktop for all the programs they need. Just Internet, E-Mail, Music, and so on will do. Explain to them never to trust e-mail from people they don't know and that their bank wont e-mail them. Have all their favorite websites bookmarked, or better yet have desktop shortcuts. You can set up an SSH server for updates, and they wont even need to know about it. They presumably won't need to play games or anything, so drivers aren't a worry, but you'll have to install extra codecs and plug-ins (MP3, Java, Flash, possibly Windows Media). If you really want to do things right, set up the VNC server in GNOME (can't remember the name at the moment) so that you can connect and show them how to do things if necessary. That's it, end of story. I don't know why everybody makes things so hard.
I for one find tags like "yes", "no", and "fud" useful, you insensitive clod!
They're right here.
Did anybody else read this as "Every DNS Under Botnet DDoS Attack"?
Yes it is. You must be new here...
I'll make this simple...
Because of Microsoft's stranglehold on the desktop OS market and because of Microsoft's questionable deals with OEMs, people get Windows shoved down their throats. Because of people being forced to use Windows and because of Microsoft's monopolistic business practices, people get Internet Explorer shoved down their throats. Because of people being forced to use Internet Explorer and because of Microsoft's laziness in patching security vulnerabilities in Internet Explorer, people get viruses and spyware shoved down their throats.
Got it?
He meant to fire them immediately, rather than waiting for the next election.
He just said that he's in charge of investing in technology. There are probably other people investing in other areas, considering that it is an investment club. Don't jump to conclusions like that.
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Now we're going to see blue apples... and I thought green ketchup was bad...
Most people can't set the clocks on their VCRs because it usually requires some odd, non-intuitive button combination to do so. There's that, and the fact that people don't want to reset the clocks every time to power goes out, they unplug the VCR, etc.
Right idea, wrong analogy...
That's not necessarily true. The machine could be made to print the votes that the voter made on paper, but to actually submit fixed votes electronically.
While your argument is logical and I agree with it, remember that we're dealing with politicians here. I don't mean to stereotype, but most politicians want to return to their offices, and will do what they can to keep voter support. Unfortunately, even though open source is a great move in the long term, it has many short term setbacks. Voters may get upset if the government is perceived as wasting time and money (two huge short term losses) on the transition to open source, and those politicians backing open source could be shown the door.
I'm sure a large part of the reason that people don't care about software freedom is because they don't know it exists. If we could explain to them that open source software is not only free as in beer, but as in freedom as well, then they would probably agree with us. Tell them about how they're allowed to modify and redistribute open source software, but they might not care. Then tell them the true advantages of open source. Microsoft could discontinue support for all their old Microsoft Offfice formats in their next version, and there wouldn't be a thing we could do about it. If OpenOffice also scrapped all old formats, there would still be hope. Not only are there many other open source (and some closed source) programs that could handle the open formats, but we could go back through old source code to gain an understanding of OpenDocument (or any other open format in OpenOffice) and implement it in another program. For that matter, OpenDocument is just a specially organized zip file (I think so at least, but I know it's some compressed format.), so we could simply extract it and see the original document in plain text. Now that's open. You don't have to be that technical in explaining it, but I think you get the point.
That's completely wrong. Microsoft is suggesting that Novell needs protection from being sued. Unlike robbing someone, suing someone is a perfectly valid legal process. Legally, as far as I know and barring possible monopoly abuse, there's nothing wrong with what Microsoft is doing. Ethically, morally, logically, and ideologically, it's a completely different issue.
At least the cameras don't explode...
They had to pick just ten geek girls, and one isn't even real?! Come on... that's just pathetic...
This just doesn't sound right. Here we have a known monopoly, with strong control of the desktop operating system and office suite markets. Isn't it in the slightest bit anti-competitive for them to offer this free to anybody but their competitors? I'm no expert on the legal side of things, but this is the exact kind of thing that anti-trust laws are supposed to prevent.
Thanks for trying that. It's nice to know that my favorite browser isn't vulnerable to such trickery.
Does anyone know if Konqueror (using KDE Wallet) is affected? And what about other browsers, like Opera, Epiphany, and so on? I'd just like to know how common this type of exploit is.
Seriously, that's it. Put big (and I mean BIG) shortcuts with generic names on the desktop for all the programs they need. Just Internet, E-Mail, Music, and so on will do. Explain to them never to trust e-mail from people they don't know and that their bank wont e-mail them. Have all their favorite websites bookmarked, or better yet have desktop shortcuts. You can set up an SSH server for updates, and they wont even need to know about it. They presumably won't need to play games or anything, so drivers aren't a worry, but you'll have to install extra codecs and plug-ins (MP3, Java, Flash, possibly Windows Media). If you really want to do things right, set up the VNC server in GNOME (can't remember the name at the moment) so that you can connect and show them how to do things if necessary. That's it, end of story. I don't know why everybody makes things so hard.
Just why does everybody make a car analogy... When cars crash, people can die. When computers crash, nobody dies*.
*excepting the exploding laptop batteries, but that's another story...