The interesting question is, will anyone care enough about this to stop doing business with HP? Will any major corporate clients reject these practices and refuse to deal with a company that engages in them?
I'm guessing not.
There will be a few people punished in a very public fashion, while behind the scenes this sort of behavior becomes commonplace.
Maybe it's just Monday Morning talking here, but I hope I'm wrong.
What you're saying is largely true, but what I find interesting is a lack of behavioral change to even attempt at alleviating the cost pressure in the short term. For instance, I haven't seen any indication of an increase in carpooling over the last year or two, despite the fact that most Americans have a pretty lengthy commute to work.
Rehashing a Rolling Stone article from June, that was already covered on/. at the time? Running a dupe a few days or a week later is one thing, but it's been 3 months!
Of course they waited and waited to see how much business the XBox Live was doing. Regardless of whether or not their claim has any merit, it's typical that a plaintiff like this is going to claim that should be receiving licensing fees in proportion to the scale of business at which the patent applies. If XBox Live did 10 times as well, the calculation damages should result in a figure that his also 10 times higher.
That said, there is something SCO-like stinkin' here...
I think they're trying to justify some post-graduate study grants or something. It seems like there's a new article here every week trying to establish game reviews as a new field of socio-artistic critical analysis. *yawn*
Posting a comment on one of the archived hockey blog posts would be good. All comments immediately forward to my personal email, and I can delete the comment off the blog afterwards.
Despite campaigns to reform China's courts, judicial abuses, official influence and arbitrary sentencing remain a widespread concern, particularly in lower courts where many judges have not even been to law school.
It sounds like this can be a tool to help standardize the application of the law, which varies widely from place to place. That's a step in the right direction. No, it's not going to result in a "perfect" legal system, but it could help improve things.
I was wondering if you work with particular apps, or whether you deal in home-grown stuff. BPCS and Movex are ERP's in RPG, and PkMS is a warehouse-management system.
I had to learn RPG a few years ago to help support our programming group at a previous job. I was revolting at the thought of dealing with such ancient technology, when the 40th anniversary issue of ComputerWorld came out. They reprinted their initial cover from the 1960's, which read "are Cobol and RPG obsolete?"
Indeed, that's the only way to change their behavior - for massive amounts of customers (personal and business) to take a stand and refuse to purchase Vista.
Whoa, I'm getting some major deja vu here. Hasn't this been said about almost every new version of Microsoft product over the last 10 years or so? Based on the track record, I'm guessing Vista will be installed across the board within a few short years.
And isn't it sad that the quickest patch they ever release is for a hole no user cares about? More proof that MS cares more about their corporate friends than users.
Is it proof that MS doesn't care enough about users, or is it (by extension) proof that users don't care much about OS vulnerabilities? Sure, they may complain, but do they actually take action and demonstrate that they care, by switching to more secure OS's (by moving to Apple or Linux)?
After all, MS reacts to what its customers and business partners care about. The music companies go apeshit over stuff like this, but users (both corporate and personal) haven't really demonstrated that they'd rather take their business somewhere else, so why should MS give them anything more than lip service?
We already have a mechanism for this, it's called the civil suit. If you suffer losses because of sloppy data handling by a company, sue their a$$. That's how the system works.
Dunn sounds like a melodramatic sociopath bent on her own power trip. It's bad enough to hire outside inspectors to track down a leaker, and to resort to snooping on personal call records, which is truly dirty pool. But once she had her proof, why not confront that director personally, rather than pull a stunt like this in front of the full board? Had she confronted this guy directly, he may have resigned quietly. Instead, she's now thrown the spotlight on her disregard for personal ethics or the respect of her colleagues.
That said, it's pathetic how easy it was for these investigators to get personal phone records on these accounts. You'd think there would be some standards in place, such as only sending the information to addresses already tied to the account, or something. I'm no security expert, but this looks pretty shoddy.
For those of us who are parents, the notion of downloading a Disney movie that you couldn't burn to disc is damn near worthless. Why do you think we have DVD players in our minivans?
The interesting question is, will anyone care enough about this to stop doing business with HP? Will any major corporate clients reject these practices and refuse to deal with a company that engages in them?
I'm guessing not.
There will be a few people punished in a very public fashion, while behind the scenes this sort of behavior becomes commonplace.
Maybe it's just Monday Morning talking here, but I hope I'm wrong.
What you're saying is largely true, but what I find interesting is a lack of behavioral change to even attempt at alleviating the cost pressure in the short term. For instance, I haven't seen any indication of an increase in carpooling over the last year or two, despite the fact that most Americans have a pretty lengthy commute to work.
Rehashing a Rolling Stone article from June, that was already covered on /. at the time? Running a dupe a few days or a week later is one thing, but it's been 3 months!
Just as long as they don't play "Singing in the Rain"...
At least we still have the motivational posters...
Of course they waited and waited to see how much business the XBox Live was doing. Regardless of whether or not their claim has any merit, it's typical that a plaintiff like this is going to claim that should be receiving licensing fees in proportion to the scale of business at which the patent applies. If XBox Live did 10 times as well, the calculation damages should result in a figure that his also 10 times higher.
That said, there is something SCO-like stinkin' here...
I think they're trying to justify some post-graduate study grants or something. It seems like there's a new article here every week trying to establish game reviews as a new field of socio-artistic critical analysis. *yawn*
Is simply accepting business from US clients enough?
IANAL, but if I recall my introductory law course from 17 years ago, I believe the answer to that is Yes.
It worked for me fine in IE on XP, as well. Maybe he's using Lynx or something...
Posting a comment on one of the archived hockey blog posts would be good. All comments immediately forward to my personal email, and I can delete the comment off the blog afterwards.
It sounds like this can be a tool to help standardize the application of the law, which varies widely from place to place. That's a step in the right direction. No, it's not going to result in a "perfect" legal system, but it could help improve things.
I was wondering if you work with particular apps, or whether you deal in home-grown stuff. BPCS and Movex are ERP's in RPG, and PkMS is a warehouse-management system.
I had to learn RPG a few years ago to help support our programming group at a previous job. I was revolting at the thought of dealing with such ancient technology, when the 40th anniversary issue of ComputerWorld came out. They reprinted their initial cover from the 1960's, which read "are Cobol and RPG obsolete?"
Given your nick, I gotta ask what you work on in your day job? PkMS, Movex, BPCS???
The product sheet says it penentrates 1/64th of an inch into human skin. So what about clothing? Can you avoid the waves by being covered head to toe?
Just remember, however, Tom Bombadil doesn't appear in The Hobbit...
What we need is a five-year mission to explore these strange, new worlds, seek out new life, and new civilizations...
Indeed, that's the only way to change their behavior - for massive amounts of customers (personal and business) to take a stand and refuse to purchase Vista.
Whoa, I'm getting some major deja vu here. Hasn't this been said about almost every new version of Microsoft product over the last 10 years or so? Based on the track record, I'm guessing Vista will be installed across the board within a few short years.
Does anyone else find the Star Trek 2.0 on G4 to be horribly done? It looks like a spiffed up version of PointCast...
That would be quite a different spin on the story, wouldn't it?
"HP CEO Hacks Phone System To Discover Leak"...
And most reputable lawyers would never take such a case on commision.
Do you have any reasoning for that? It sounds like an argumentative cop-out to me. Lawyers (reputable and not) take all kinds of cases on commission.
And isn't it sad that the quickest patch they ever release is for a hole no user cares about? More proof that MS cares more about their corporate friends than users.
Is it proof that MS doesn't care enough about users, or is it (by extension) proof that users don't care much about OS vulnerabilities? Sure, they may complain, but do they actually take action and demonstrate that they care, by switching to more secure OS's (by moving to Apple or Linux)?
After all, MS reacts to what its customers and business partners care about. The music companies go apeshit over stuff like this, but users (both corporate and personal) haven't really demonstrated that they'd rather take their business somewhere else, so why should MS give them anything more than lip service?
We already have a mechanism for this, it's called the civil suit. If you suffer losses because of sloppy data handling by a company, sue their a$$. That's how the system works.
Try this for starters.
Dunn sounds like a melodramatic sociopath bent on her own power trip. It's bad enough to hire outside inspectors to track down a leaker, and to resort to snooping on personal call records, which is truly dirty pool. But once she had her proof, why not confront that director personally, rather than pull a stunt like this in front of the full board? Had she confronted this guy directly, he may have resigned quietly. Instead, she's now thrown the spotlight on her disregard for personal ethics or the respect of her colleagues.
That said, it's pathetic how easy it was for these investigators to get personal phone records on these accounts. You'd think there would be some standards in place, such as only sending the information to addresses already tied to the account, or something. I'm no security expert, but this looks pretty shoddy.
For those of us who are parents, the notion of downloading a Disney movie that you couldn't burn to disc is damn near worthless. Why do you think we have DVD players in our minivans?