I think its also crap how you can buy an imported car at times with nearly 1% APR, but an education that does not depreciate or get repossessed must not only accrue ridiculous finance fees, it now must also involve indentured servitude.
I believe you answered your own question: in case of default, a car can get repossessed and sold, an education can't. If you were in the lender's position, why would you lend money to students knowing they could default and walk away from the debt?
Its the only guaranteed loan in the business. There is no risk.
how can they really be worth that? Isn't each medallion worth 1 taxi cab? I'm having a hard time trying to figure out how 1 taxi cab can bring in enough money to justify that kind of value.
Come to think of it, I'm having trouble with the entire world economy adding up. This fascist groove thing has never added up, and it ain't a free market or level field.
People are unfair, in spite of natures gifts. Welcome to the primitive social human infection of reality - living organic systems led by intangible, experiential , desires.
Why is the government trying to help get students educated in CS. if this gap really exists then why don't I have a job in this field, I have an undergraduate degree, and the skills needed.
You're not supposed to ask that question. What are you, a communist? You might as well put insubordination on the resume. You should change your name to Mr. Smarty Pants. Radical Hippy Stoner Face experience.
I love how the say they'll subsidize two thirds the cost of a tuition that they just tripled in recent years. I think its also crap how you can buy an imported car at times with nearly 1% APR, but an education that does not depreciate or get repossessed must not only accrue ridiculous finance fees, it now must also involve indentured servitude. The slavery might only last for a few years, but the loan will stay with you longer than you'll remember the curriculum. And that's how the smart and successful people channel their ambitions: serving master. Its a deal with the devil in the details. Slavery doesn't just grow on trees, ya know.
Maybe they shouldn't assume that it is debris. Its in one piece perhaps.
Also its a government gig.
This means they can spend forever using resources and personnel on this task without having to be accountable for the worthless results. In fact, their incentive is not to find it, else they'll have to go back to work doing the really important stuff: floating around in circles, looking at nothing, and taking orders all day. Furthermore, If they really wanted to find it they'd be looking near Bermuda, not Australia. How can we take them seriously if they're ignoring the Indian and the Atlantic Oceans, and the Bermuda Triangle.
I can't imagine why anyone would want to do this...having witnessed the sad progression of that disease second hand, it is not something that a sane person would want to experience.
You're right. This must be spin on a screw up.
They were most likely working on multiple orgasms and got this in error.
Clearly, this would never happen outside of an academic setting. Who would bother?
Does it matter, who?
The outcome of elections are worth billions to vested interest groups. $4 billion was donated to candidates and PACs in the months preceding the election on November 4th. Many, many, people would "bother".
The point of the question "Does it matter who?" is to point out that the outcomes of elections are worth billions to vested interest groups, and that $4 billion was donated to candidates and PACs in the months preceding the election.
So from here, it looks as if you think you disagree with someone with whom you actually agree.
They apparently don't have talent at all. They try to obstruct it because it makes them meaningful. They become a source of skills and talent that they will never develop themselves. Parasites have had a necessary function in nature for eons.
Why does corporate pimping continue to be the dominant paradigm for creating private funding revenue for free public services? And why does it continue to work so effectively? I am convinced that nearly anything that is advertised to me is shit I don't need, for prices too high, with money I don't have. Perhaps that's the catch: If you have the money you'll happily spend it on overpriced crap you don't need, because with wads of cash you don't need anything. Including Free Wi-Fi. Ah the conundrum of consumerism...
So, in other words incentives have a function in business. As you state, we get good results from good incentives and bad results from perverse incentives. When you arrange to reward conflicting interests then unfairness results. The cluster-fuck arrangement that covers the administrative costs of the rebate, in part, with the "unclaimed" rebate pool will ultimately rip off consumers. Everyone else upstream is already paid, but the customer must play musical chairs in order to grab what is left over. This is fundamentally a bullshit arrangement for the customer who does not receive the price as advertised. More lucrative still, this arrangement creates a slush fund for the issuers that only reconcile what they acknowledge. Otherwise the customer defaults, by default. Perhaps the results speak for themselves: pissed off customers. This may not hurt the manufacturer, but someone is paying the price. I won't buy anything that involves rebates again, so it is no longer an incentive to get my business. I hope that $25 was worth it, its the last you'll steal from me.
These are GMO, they are Hybrids,
" focus their efforts in assuring that they monetize"
Do you think farmers worked for free?
"even at the cost of others' lives or prosperity."
absurd.
" When you put more effort into sterile plants"
They aren't.
"that require chemicals"
Name a plant that doesn't require chemicals.
" towards nutrition and human survival"
this is about nutrition and human survival.
" DuPont's Napalm sales "
so you are so factless you need to do ad homs, and non sequitors.
Do you think farmers worked for free?.
Farmers have been working for a living for thousands of years. They never before needed to consult with geneticists to fully understand the ramifications of buying seed that has been modified to produce sterile seeds and thrive with proprietary chemicals developed solely to control the crop and extort the farmer with costs that eventually put them out of business. This is not how the crops behaved in the past, and DuPont sure as hell did not clarify that fact to a subsistence farmer with no education.
absurd.
Absurd? So you think its reasonable for Africa to enter into untenable contracts with foreign interests who want profit and do not care about the difficulties to pay. These farmers will likely be driven out of business so foreign corporate interests can take over their land and agriculture. This is about power and money, not about feeding people.
They aren't..
Yes, they are. The development is not accidental, it is their business plan.
Name a plant that doesn't require chemicals..
No plant needs a DuPont chemical except for these. They are specifically developed that way. DuPont intends to make crops dependent on their chemicals. Once again, these intentions are not fully comprehended or disclosed. Poor Farmers in third world nations are no match for DuPont, they certainly should not be controlled by them.
this is about nutrition and human survival.
Don't be naive. DuPont is about profit. If they just want to feed people then why develop proprietary plants and then charge 10 times the already high prices? The Farmer's margin for profit is now all for DuPont. But when there is no rain, too bad for the farmer. DuPont will be happy to auction the land to another Farmer that must bear the burden and risk for their "enterprise".
Of course they only care about the money; that's what corporations are supposed to do.
(I mean, could you please make up your mind whether you want corporations to engage in politics or not? Sometimes you want corporations to get drawn and quartered if they as much as utter a squeak on social or political issues, at other times, you whine and complain that "they only care about the money".)
When you put more effort into sterile plants that require chemicals than towards nutrition and human survival than you should not be permitted to enter the world food market. Its criminal extortion plain and simple.
How is anybody forcing you to buy their plants? If you think that non-sterile, non GMO crops are a better deal, just buy those instead. Where is the "criminal extortion"?
This is not marketed to me, but their seed is contaminating the gene pool in African seeds via the subsistence farmers who wind up trying to use them.
If you think that its OK to screw over people to make a buck then I really don't need to elaborate further on the ethics involved.
Technology can be used for good and feed the world. DuPont wants to focus their efforts in assuring that they monetize their tweaks to nature's developments, even at the cost of others' lives or prosperity. When you put more effort into sterile plants that require chemicals than towards nutrition and human survival than you should not be permitted to enter the world food market. Its criminal extortion plain and simple. I guess DuPont's Napalm sales are down so this is another bad use of science.
they call it connected, all they do is make the world smaller and smaller
Right. They don't really care about democracy, they just want to know how you vote, when and if you vote, so that they can sell that information in advance of you voting in order to render your vote less meaningful on election day. Your "vote" is sold as poling data before the vote is ever cast....this will make hanging chads or voting privacy irrelevant. F*ck Facebook, f*cking f*ckfaced f*ckers.
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I think its also crap how you can buy an imported car at times with nearly 1% APR, but an education that does not depreciate or get repossessed must not only accrue ridiculous finance fees, it now must also involve indentured servitude.
I believe you answered your own question: in case of default, a car can get repossessed and sold, an education can't. If you were in the lender's position, why would you lend money to students knowing they could default and walk away from the debt?
Its the only guaranteed loan in the business. There is no risk.
how can they really be worth that? Isn't each medallion worth 1 taxi cab? I'm having a hard time trying to figure out how 1 taxi cab can bring in enough money to justify that kind of value.
Come to think of it, I'm having trouble with the entire world economy adding up. This fascist groove thing has never added up, and it ain't a free market or level field.
People are unfair, in spite of natures gifts. Welcome to the primitive social human infection of reality - living organic systems led by intangible, experiential , desires.
Why is the government trying to help get students educated in CS. if this gap really exists then why don't I have a job in this field, I have an undergraduate degree, and the skills needed.
You're not supposed to ask that question. What are you, a communist? You might as well put insubordination on the resume. You should change your name to Mr. Smarty Pants. Radical Hippy Stoner Face experience.
I love how the say they'll subsidize two thirds the cost of a tuition that they just tripled in recent years. I think its also crap how you can buy an imported car at times with nearly 1% APR, but an education that does not depreciate or get repossessed must not only accrue ridiculous finance fees, it now must also involve indentured servitude. The slavery might only last for a few years, but the loan will stay with you longer than you'll remember the curriculum. And that's how the smart and successful people channel their ambitions: serving master. Its a deal with the devil in the details. Slavery doesn't just grow on trees, ya know.
Maybe they shouldn't assume that it is debris. Its in one piece perhaps.
Also its a government gig.
This means they can spend forever using resources and personnel on this task without having to be accountable for the worthless results. In fact, their incentive is not to find it, else they'll have to go back to work doing the really important stuff: floating around in circles, looking at nothing, and taking orders all day. Furthermore, If they really wanted to find it they'd be looking near Bermuda, not Australia. How can we take them seriously if they're ignoring the Indian and the Atlantic Oceans, and the Bermuda Triangle.
I was talking about the washing machine action, but I see your point.
Its Karma.
Not instant, like their rice....its slow cooked Karma....
With a side of Sony baloney.
That's not a palindrome. niger is a Latin adjective meaning black. Please note the single 'g'.
Niger (or anagram) is spelled with only one "g"....
Oh, I see what you did there, honky!
I can't imagine why anyone would want to do this...having witnessed the sad progression of that disease second hand, it is not something that a sane person would want to experience.
You're right. This must be spin on a screw up.
They were most likely working on multiple orgasms and got this in error.
Or just sit on a washing machine.
You might be onto something....
They might have been working on simulating multiple orgasms and stumbled on Parkinson's in error.
Clearly, this would never happen outside of an academic setting. Who would bother?
Does it matter, who?
The outcome of elections are worth billions to vested interest groups. $4 billion was donated to candidates and PACs in the months preceding the election on November 4th. Many, many, people would "bother".
The point of the question "Does it matter who?" is to point out that the outcomes of elections are worth billions to vested interest groups, and that $4 billion was donated to candidates and PACs in the months preceding the election.
So from here, it looks as if you think you disagree with someone with whom you actually agree.
Mod Parent Up !
They apparently don't have talent at all. They try to obstruct it because it makes them meaningful. They become a source of skills and talent that they will never develop themselves. Parasites have had a necessary function in nature for eons.
I just hurts me so much to hurt you. I'd rather hurt myself. I feel so bad about hurting you first.
Oh! woe is me. You're such a jerk for being my victim.
Why does corporate pimping continue to be the dominant paradigm for creating private funding revenue for free public services? And why does it continue to work so effectively? I am convinced that nearly anything that is advertised to me is shit I don't need, for prices too high, with money I don't have. Perhaps that's the catch: If you have the money you'll happily spend it on overpriced crap you don't need, because with wads of cash you don't need anything. Including Free Wi-Fi. Ah the conundrum of consumerism...
...Because now they'll need a few good tax attorneys.
So, in other words incentives have a function in business. As you state, we get good results from good incentives and bad results from perverse incentives. When you arrange to reward conflicting interests then unfairness results. The cluster-fuck arrangement that covers the administrative costs of the rebate, in part, with the "unclaimed" rebate pool will ultimately rip off consumers. Everyone else upstream is already paid, but the customer must play musical chairs in order to grab what is left over. This is fundamentally a bullshit arrangement for the customer who does not receive the price as advertised. More lucrative still, this arrangement creates a slush fund for the issuers that only reconcile what they acknowledge. Otherwise the customer defaults, by default. Perhaps the results speak for themselves: pissed off customers. This may not hurt the manufacturer, but someone is paying the price. I won't buy anything that involves rebates again, so it is no longer an incentive to get my business. I hope that $25 was worth it, its the last you'll steal from me.
These are GMO, they are Hybrids, " focus their efforts in assuring that they monetize" Do you think farmers worked for free? "even at the cost of others' lives or prosperity." absurd. " When you put more effort into sterile plants" They aren't. "that require chemicals" Name a plant that doesn't require chemicals. " towards nutrition and human survival" this is about nutrition and human survival.
" DuPont's Napalm sales " so you are so factless you need to do ad homs, and non sequitors.
Do you think farmers worked for free?.
Farmers have been working for a living for thousands of years. They never before needed to consult with geneticists to fully understand the ramifications of buying seed that has been modified to produce sterile seeds and thrive with proprietary chemicals developed solely to control the crop and extort the farmer with costs that eventually put them out of business. This is not how the crops behaved in the past, and DuPont sure as hell did not clarify that fact to a subsistence farmer with no education.
absurd.
Absurd? So you think its reasonable for Africa to enter into untenable contracts with foreign interests who want profit and do not care about the difficulties to pay. These farmers will likely be driven out of business so foreign corporate interests can take over their land and agriculture. This is about power and money, not about feeding people.
They aren't..
Yes, they are. The development is not accidental, it is their business plan.
Name a plant that doesn't require chemicals..
No plant needs a DuPont chemical except for these. They are specifically developed that way. DuPont intends to make crops dependent on their chemicals. Once again, these intentions are not fully comprehended or disclosed. Poor Farmers in third world nations are no match for DuPont, they certainly should not be controlled by them.
this is about nutrition and human survival.
Don't be naive. DuPont is about profit. If they just want to feed people then why develop proprietary plants and then charge 10 times the already high prices? The Farmer's margin for profit is now all for DuPont. But when there is no rain, too bad for the farmer. DuPont will be happy to auction the land to another Farmer that must bear the burden and risk for their "enterprise".
Clearly, this would never happen outside of an academic setting. Who would bother?
Does it matter, who?
Of course they only care about the money; that's what corporations are supposed to do.
(I mean, could you please make up your mind whether you want corporations to engage in politics or not? Sometimes you want corporations to get drawn and quartered if they as much as utter a squeak on social or political issues, at other times, you whine and complain that "they only care about the money".)
How is anybody forcing you to buy their plants? If you think that non-sterile, non GMO crops are a better deal, just buy those instead. Where is the "criminal extortion"?
This is not marketed to me, but their seed is contaminating the gene pool in African seeds via the subsistence farmers who wind up trying to use them.
If you think that its OK to screw over people to make a buck then I really don't need to elaborate further on the ethics involved.
Technology can be used for good and feed the world. DuPont wants to focus their efforts in assuring that they monetize their tweaks to nature's developments, even at the cost of others' lives or prosperity. When you put more effort into sterile plants that require chemicals than towards nutrition and human survival than you should not be permitted to enter the world food market. Its criminal extortion plain and simple. I guess DuPont's Napalm sales are down so this is another bad use of science.
Reality.
what the fuck, just type 'FUCKING FUCKFACED FUCKERS'.. don't be a pantywaist about it.
I apologize, I was pansy coating my fucks.
Sorry, but sometimes Facebook makes my penis fall off.
Forget the Moon, who knew there was actually an inner Mongolia ?
It's a long way to the cafeteria.
Khrushchev saw the writing on the bathroom wall...
they call it connected, all they do is make the world smaller and smaller
Right. They don't really care about democracy, they just want to know how you vote, when and if you vote, so that they can sell that information in advance of you voting in order to render your vote less meaningful on election day. Your "vote" is sold as poling data before the vote is ever cast....this will make hanging chads or voting privacy irrelevant. F*ck Facebook, f*cking f*ckfaced f*ckers.