I'm just not sure how well the Surface Pro will fit into things as it tries to straddle two worlds.
I'll be sure to keep you updated, then. I don't use the Journal feature here that often, but I'll use it for this. It's a lower DPI than my 4.3" 720p phone and I don't have trouble using touch with desktop apps via AirDisplay on that, so I think we'll both be pleasantly surprised.
He did not cover the OS aspect, actually. Also, you do realize there's no difference between a 1080p display at 10.6" and a 1080p display at 106" other than the amount of space they take up and comfortable viewing distance, right? That is to say, as far as software is concerned, one 1080p display is just as big as another, so your point is invalid.
If you're using it at a desk, you can have a mouse just like any other PC, and that's likely to be how most people use it most of the time; but having the ability to detach the keyboard and use it like an iPad when you want to is an added plus. The digitizer is a huge plus, as well -- a basic capacitive screen and stylus are no substitute for a pressure sensitive stylus and digitizer (I have an Adonit Jot precision stylus that I adore, but for real graphics work, the lack of pressure sensitivity is fail).
You're right in that it's more of an MBA competitor, but it negates my need for an iPad or Android tablet, as well. Like I said a few posts up, my wife will be happy to have her iPad back once I have my Surface Pro (that is to say, I use an iPad, I don't mind it, I'm not ripping on it, but -- for my use case, at least -- Surface Pro beats a laptop and tablet, because it *is* a laptop and tablet).
If I want a laptop, I snap the keyboard on. If I want a tablet, I snap the keyboard off. Best of both worlds. I'll let you know how I like it after I've had it for a few weeks; who knows, maybe you're right and there really isn't a point to it.
Surface (non-pro), Android tablets, and iPads remain tablets even when you add a keyboard (even if it attaches directly) simply for the fact that it they're still running a tablet OS. A laptop isn't a desktop (which was your whole argument about tablets), either, but it still runs a desktop OS; and when you snap they keyboard cover on the Surface Pro, it's no longer a tablet, it's a fully functional laptop. Why can't people get this concept?
You still have two separate items to carry (the Surface Pro's keyboard is also its case, and it attaches to, and becomes one with, the device, remember). You still lack a full desktop OS. You still lose functionality with an iPad that you don't have to give up with Surface Pro. Oh, and I forgot to mention, pressure-sensitive digitizer -- worth the $900 just for that, especially since I've been eyeballing this one for some time now.
So no you're got your iPad, which of course is in a case, and a bluetooth keyboard to carry around and keep charged. That's 2 items, with 2 batteries, and 2 different chargers needed. The surface, which happens to be a complete PC, with an Intel Core i5 CPU and a complete desktop OS, has a case available that also happens to be a keyboard, which just so happens to be powered by the device itself, so only one item to carry and one battery to charge, and all your desktop apps can come along for the ride.
Yes, iPad and Surface pro are equivalents and iPad wins because the OS is smaller. Except that they're not and you're a jackass. My wife will be more than happy to have her iPad back on February 9th and I'll be more than happy to be able to stop lugging my 6.8lb 17" laptop (17" or bigger is really your only choice if you want 1080p) to work, in favor of a much smaller and just as functional 2lb tablet.
Sometimes it's the other way around. When you experience oxygen starvation during sleep, you wake up in a panic and your bloodstream floods with cortisol. One of the things cortisol does is increase your appetite. In an indirect way, sleep apnea can be a contributing factor to obesity (or weight gain in general). I know when it became a problem for me about 7 years ago, my weight shot up 50lb in less than 6mo. My apnea was caused by environmental conditions, which I solved by moving to a new place. I still have 1 or 2 episodes per night, I've stopped gaining, but I'm not losing the weight, either. I've tried diet, exercise, both at the same time, for months on-end, and at most I'll lose 1lb in that time. Some weeks I'm actually able to sleep through the night consistently; I'll lose 5-10lb in one of those weeks, but it'll come right back a week later when the apnea kicks up again.
I do control my portion sizes, I rarely finish a meal (I almost always have leftovers in the fridge), I take care to eat a balanced diet and limit my intake of fatty foods (no cakes or fried bread products, 1 or 2 small pieces of candy every few days, I'll have a steak maybe once every couple of weeks so I don't start missing *actually* eating), I walk to work, I walk to lunch; hell, I'm in downtown Walnut Creek, I walk pretty much everywhere, and I live at the top of a 1000ft 45 degree incline. The problem is not dietary and it's not lack of exercise. Like I said, I start shedding weight fast when I'm able to sleep
My apnea "isn't severe enough to warrant treatment", so no CPAP or dental appliance for me, either. I'm only 180, so overweight but not obese, but I'd really like to get back down to the 132 I was at for 12 years before this problem came along.
Oh well, I guess if I wasn't such a lardass, I could sleep at night, right? Ignorant dick.
It's easier to read a contract and see "Oh, 3% surcharge on credit cards?" than it is to consider the inherent costs associated with handling cash; thus, one is considered by post businesses, while the other is not. Pretty simple, really, if you've got a basic understanding of human psychology.
It costs a retailer, on average, 5-7% of their cash transaction volume to handle that cash, between counting it into the till, counting it out of the till, counting the daily total, losses due to miscounts (too much change given), losses due to scams (can you break this 20? I'm sorry, can I get 4 5's for the [only handing back $10 in exchange]. Oh, actually, I need singles, can I get $10? [hands cashier $5]. Cashier has received $35 but handed out $50, I've seen it done before). Their insurance costs are, in part, proportional to the amount of cash they routinely keep on hand, and the majority of "security" cameras are watching tills; they could stop paying someone to watch those if they didn't have them anymore.
Plus, you're on crack if you think they'll actually lower their prices before they start charging CC users a fee. No, you and I will both still be paying the "averaged into the price" CC fee; the difference is that I'll also be paying the *full* CC fee, on top of it. Fuck that.
Yes, and those who want a tablet would also have to buy a tablet. And those tho want to use their desktop applications when all they happened to bring was their tablet will be glad they have a Surface Pro.
And that's why one would recommend a tablet that runs a full desktop OS and can, in fact, function as a proper laptop for 99% of users with the addition of a simple keyboard. Android, as much as I love it, can't do that; iOS, as much as Apple users adore it, can't either.
Knowing that your oil needs to be changed (NOT just topped off, as your post implies -- perhaps you fall into the group I'm talking about) would put you head and shoulders above most of the morons out there. Performing an oil change does require some (very minimal, but nonzero) amount of mechanical knowledge. If you had any concept of the sheer number of vehicles on the road whose drivers don't even realize the oil is a maintenance item, you'd never want to drive; in fact, you'd wish there were underground tunnels for pedestrians so you never had to go near a road again.
If you're going to drive a car, learn basic vehicle maintenance, so you at least know when to involve a mechanic. If your very survival depends on you eating food, learn where it comes from so you know how to get it. If your big idea depends on programming, learn enough to be able to effectively communicate with the programmer you're expecting to make it happen. If you can't do these basic, simple things, don't be surprised if your car breaks down and you starve to death on your way to chew out your programmer for not including some feature or process you never actually discussed because you weren't willing to put forth the effort to not fuck yourself over.
But, in The Corporate States of America, you owe your company everything and they owe you nothing. Be happy with the $8.00/hr they give you and, if you speak up again, expect to be terminated. Be glad that's just another term for "fired". For now.
If just a single boilerplate sentence in an accompanying documentation file is really just too much work for you, then wow.... just wow. You'll spend orders of magnitude more effort creating the software in the first place. In fact, you'll spent more time trying to think of reasons not to do it than it will take to simply do it.
Most of the code we're talking about here, and it's my fault for not being clear, consist of short snippets or single functions. I don't have the whole library online yet, but we're talking about several hundred files. It took me 5 seconds to think of that reason; can you do it faster?
I also place a positive value on the idea of copyright; I do not agree with the way it is currently implemented, or the way the "content industry" uses it to lock their content up, but overall yes, I do see the value in it. With regard to the project I'm talking about in this thread, it has an overall negative effect, which gives it an overall negative value. I can add that one line to each of hundreds of files which, due to how the project is structured, would be considered separate works (lest I run afoul of someone else's copyright by violating *their* license), and I may, someday, get around to doing that; or, I can put an extremely permissive copyright notice in the footer of my site (one template, one file, one line), stating that other licensing may apply where noted, and attach appropriate licensed to the few works where it is necessary. Since much of this code was originally written for my own use and the idea for this project came about after the majority of that code had already been written, I was already in this situation at the start of the project.
Now, if I didn't have to respect other peoples' copyrights, I would just release the whole damned thing into the public domain; one line in the footer of the site, "All content hereby released into the public domain. You're welcome." and be done with it. Hell, that's what I'd like to do, but some of the code in questions is derived from other code bound by licenses that are not compatible with that concept and other bits were written under contract and I'm only being allowed to release them under certain terms. Given that, like I said above, maybe someday I'll get around to going through each of hundreds of files and adding release text to them; until then, it is what it is.
I totally forgot about that! I was stuck using a Mac for a while, where CAPS LOCK means you're getting capitals, SHIFT key be damned. Thanks for the refresh!
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I'm just not sure how well the Surface Pro will fit into things as it tries to straddle two worlds.
I'll be sure to keep you updated, then. I don't use the Journal feature here that often, but I'll use it for this. It's a lower DPI than my 4.3" 720p phone and I don't have trouble using touch with desktop apps via AirDisplay on that, so I think we'll both be pleasantly surprised.
You said "laptops", not "smaller laptops", so your point was a bit unclear.
I know plenty of laptops have good 1080p screens. I'm using one right now. I mentioned that in my post. Thanks for your useless input, though.
He did not cover the OS aspect, actually. Also, you do realize there's no difference between a 1080p display at 10.6" and a 1080p display at 106" other than the amount of space they take up and comfortable viewing distance, right? That is to say, as far as software is concerned, one 1080p display is just as big as another, so your point is invalid.
If you're using it at a desk, you can have a mouse just like any other PC, and that's likely to be how most people use it most of the time; but having the ability to detach the keyboard and use it like an iPad when you want to is an added plus. The digitizer is a huge plus, as well -- a basic capacitive screen and stylus are no substitute for a pressure sensitive stylus and digitizer (I have an Adonit Jot precision stylus that I adore, but for real graphics work, the lack of pressure sensitivity is fail).
You're right in that it's more of an MBA competitor, but it negates my need for an iPad or Android tablet, as well. Like I said a few posts up, my wife will be happy to have her iPad back once I have my Surface Pro (that is to say, I use an iPad, I don't mind it, I'm not ripping on it, but -- for my use case, at least -- Surface Pro beats a laptop and tablet, because it *is* a laptop and tablet).
If I want a laptop, I snap the keyboard on. If I want a tablet, I snap the keyboard off. Best of both worlds. I'll let you know how I like it after I've had it for a few weeks; who knows, maybe you're right and there really isn't a point to it.
Surface (non-pro), Android tablets, and iPads remain tablets even when you add a keyboard (even if it attaches directly) simply for the fact that it they're still running a tablet OS. A laptop isn't a desktop (which was your whole argument about tablets), either, but it still runs a desktop OS; and when you snap they keyboard cover on the Surface Pro, it's no longer a tablet, it's a fully functional laptop. Why can't people get this concept?
And the rest of my points?
You still have two separate items to carry (the Surface Pro's keyboard is also its case, and it attaches to, and becomes one with, the device, remember). You still lack a full desktop OS. You still lose functionality with an iPad that you don't have to give up with Surface Pro. Oh, and I forgot to mention, pressure-sensitive digitizer -- worth the $900 just for that, especially since I've been eyeballing this one for some time now.
So no you're got your iPad, which of course is in a case, and a bluetooth keyboard to carry around and keep charged. That's 2 items, with 2 batteries, and 2 different chargers needed. The surface, which happens to be a complete PC, with an Intel Core i5 CPU and a complete desktop OS, has a case available that also happens to be a keyboard, which just so happens to be powered by the device itself, so only one item to carry and one battery to charge, and all your desktop apps can come along for the ride.
Yes, iPad and Surface pro are equivalents and iPad wins because the OS is smaller. Except that they're not and you're a jackass. My wife will be more than happy to have her iPad back on February 9th and I'll be more than happy to be able to stop lugging my 6.8lb 17" laptop (17" or bigger is really your only choice if you want 1080p) to work, in favor of a much smaller and just as functional 2lb tablet.
Sometimes it's the other way around. When you experience oxygen starvation during sleep, you wake up in a panic and your bloodstream floods with cortisol. One of the things cortisol does is increase your appetite. In an indirect way, sleep apnea can be a contributing factor to obesity (or weight gain in general). I know when it became a problem for me about 7 years ago, my weight shot up 50lb in less than 6mo. My apnea was caused by environmental conditions, which I solved by moving to a new place. I still have 1 or 2 episodes per night, I've stopped gaining, but I'm not losing the weight, either. I've tried diet, exercise, both at the same time, for months on-end, and at most I'll lose 1lb in that time. Some weeks I'm actually able to sleep through the night consistently; I'll lose 5-10lb in one of those weeks, but it'll come right back a week later when the apnea kicks up again.
I do control my portion sizes, I rarely finish a meal (I almost always have leftovers in the fridge), I take care to eat a balanced diet and limit my intake of fatty foods (no cakes or fried bread products, 1 or 2 small pieces of candy every few days, I'll have a steak maybe once every couple of weeks so I don't start missing *actually* eating), I walk to work, I walk to lunch; hell, I'm in downtown Walnut Creek, I walk pretty much everywhere, and I live at the top of a 1000ft 45 degree incline. The problem is not dietary and it's not lack of exercise. Like I said, I start shedding weight fast when I'm able to sleep
My apnea "isn't severe enough to warrant treatment", so no CPAP or dental appliance for me, either. I'm only 180, so overweight but not obese, but I'd really like to get back down to the 132 I was at for 12 years before this problem came along.
Oh well, I guess if I wasn't such a lardass, I could sleep at night, right? Ignorant dick.
It's easier to read a contract and see "Oh, 3% surcharge on credit cards?" than it is to consider the inherent costs associated with handling cash; thus, one is considered by post businesses, while the other is not. Pretty simple, really, if you've got a basic understanding of human psychology.
It costs a retailer, on average, 5-7% of their cash transaction volume to handle that cash, between counting it into the till, counting it out of the till, counting the daily total, losses due to miscounts (too much change given), losses due to scams (can you break this 20? I'm sorry, can I get 4 5's for the [only handing back $10 in exchange]. Oh, actually, I need singles, can I get $10? [hands cashier $5]. Cashier has received $35 but handed out $50, I've seen it done before). Their insurance costs are, in part, proportional to the amount of cash they routinely keep on hand, and the majority of "security" cameras are watching tills; they could stop paying someone to watch those if they didn't have them anymore.
Plus, you're on crack if you think they'll actually lower their prices before they start charging CC users a fee. No, you and I will both still be paying the "averaged into the price" CC fee; the difference is that I'll also be paying the *full* CC fee, on top of it. Fuck that.
Yes, and those who want a tablet would also have to buy a tablet. And those tho want to use their desktop applications when all they happened to bring was their tablet will be glad they have a Surface Pro.
And that's why one would recommend a tablet that runs a full desktop OS and can, in fact, function as a proper laptop for 99% of users with the addition of a simple keyboard. Android, as much as I love it, can't do that; iOS, as much as Apple users adore it, can't either.
You're right. What makes it bad is that analogies are universally fun; so much so that they. in fact, are the funHiggs.
Knowing that your oil needs to be changed (NOT just topped off, as your post implies -- perhaps you fall into the group I'm talking about) would put you head and shoulders above most of the morons out there. Performing an oil change does require some (very minimal, but nonzero) amount of mechanical knowledge. If you had any concept of the sheer number of vehicles on the road whose drivers don't even realize the oil is a maintenance item, you'd never want to drive; in fact, you'd wish there were underground tunnels for pedestrians so you never had to go near a road again.
Thank you for helping make my point, tho.
If you're going to drive a car, learn basic vehicle maintenance, so you at least know when to involve a mechanic. If your very survival depends on you eating food, learn where it comes from so you know how to get it. If your big idea depends on programming, learn enough to be able to effectively communicate with the programmer you're expecting to make it happen. If you can't do these basic, simple things, don't be surprised if your car breaks down and you starve to death on your way to chew out your programmer for not including some feature or process you never actually discussed because you weren't willing to put forth the effort to not fuck yourself over.
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I love how you started your reply with "we are fed". Yes, very well fed, indeed.
What this startup also a phone company? I love irony.
But, in The Corporate States of America, you owe your company everything and they owe you nothing. Be happy with the $8.00/hr they give you and, if you speak up again, expect to be terminated. Be glad that's just another term for "fired". For now.
I think, at this point, we'd be better served by making note of his sig and acting accordingly.
If just a single boilerplate sentence in an accompanying documentation file is really just too much work for you, then wow.... just wow. You'll spend orders of magnitude more effort creating the software in the first place. In fact, you'll spent more time trying to think of reasons not to do it than it will take to simply do it.
Most of the code we're talking about here, and it's my fault for not being clear, consist of short snippets or single functions. I don't have the whole library online yet, but we're talking about several hundred files. It took me 5 seconds to think of that reason; can you do it faster?
I also place a positive value on the idea of copyright; I do not agree with the way it is currently implemented, or the way the "content industry" uses it to lock their content up, but overall yes, I do see the value in it. With regard to the project I'm talking about in this thread, it has an overall negative effect, which gives it an overall negative value. I can add that one line to each of hundreds of files which, due to how the project is structured, would be considered separate works (lest I run afoul of someone else's copyright by violating *their* license), and I may, someday, get around to doing that; or, I can put an extremely permissive copyright notice in the footer of my site (one template, one file, one line), stating that other licensing may apply where noted, and attach appropriate licensed to the few works where it is necessary. Since much of this code was originally written for my own use and the idea for this project came about after the majority of that code had already been written, I was already in this situation at the start of the project.
Now, if I didn't have to respect other peoples' copyrights, I would just release the whole damned thing into the public domain; one line in the footer of the site, "All content hereby released into the public domain. You're welcome." and be done with it. Hell, that's what I'd like to do, but some of the code in questions is derived from other code bound by licenses that are not compatible with that concept and other bits were written under contract and I'm only being allowed to release them under certain terms. Given that, like I said above, maybe someday I'll get around to going through each of hundreds of files and adding release text to them; until then, it is what it is.
I think you replied to the wrong post. GP copied, word for word, a post from DSLreports.com. Sadly, the user who posted it there wasn't trolling.
I totally forgot about that! I was stuck using a Mac for a while, where CAPS LOCK means you're getting capitals, SHIFT key be damned. Thanks for the refresh!
Like maybe 2013 might be the year of murder by internet-connected device.
GAH! Typo... "I'm giving you an *out* here; if you don't want to be viewed as a troll, ignoramus, or retard, I suggest you take it."