So, you're saying you want to be stuck with the buggy driver that ships with the hardware, rather than the at least semi stable one that ships a year later?
I don't get all the "If you buy it, it 'just works'" arguments, either.
Thanks to DRM, if you buy it, enter the right code, keep the CD in the drive, and have a constant internet connection, it MIGHT work. If you download the pirated version with DRM removed, it 'just works'.
Case in point, my fiancee is an avid gamer. She's going to go freakin' insane for 38hr on the road in 2 weeks. We're moving from OH to CA, and the only place she'll be able to actually game, even in single-player mode, is likely to be hotels, because our internet connection doesn't follow us, so her games' DRP can't phone home.
Fuck. That.
When she mentioned playing her games on the road to keep occupied, I pointed out why it probably won't be possible; having paid good money for these games, she was probably the most pissed of I've ever seen her. I'll find pirated copies for her before we leave so I can keep my concentration on the road, rather than her complaining about being bitten by DRM (she's never complained before because she's never noticed it before).
Once again, DRM is contributing to piracy, rather than preventing it; that's how it's gone for me for the last 10 years.
Why not fill a box with batteries any/or capacitors?
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Consider that the average person parks their car all night; an overnight charge from the 20A outlet in the garage would be plenty for said average person.
But.... But... But, what if they need a quick charge?
Well, my friend, that's why you fill the charger itself with a supply of batteries and capacitors, which it charges and maintains while the vehicle is not charging.
When you need a quick charge, you plug in as normal, then hold down the QUICK CHARGE button as you turn on the charger. Then, the charger uses its internal power storage, supplemented by the house current, to provide a quick charge. After this process completes, the charger allows its batteries to cool, then begins recharging them.
See? It's not that hard. 3 modes, really:
Charge/maintain internal batteries. Charge/maintain external batteries. Charge/maintain both internal and external batteries.
Would a system like this work at a "refueling" station? No, they'd need high-draw setups like discussed in this article. This is the quick-charger we'd all have in our garage.
It's ok... I've come to the conclusion that KharmaWidos is one or more of the following:
Epic Troll Complete Moron Absolute Fucktard Perfect Idiot Ignorant of Copyright Law Ignorant of the Reasons for Piracy Ignorant, in General A Good Candidate for Testing of Non-Lethal Weaponary (e.g. the kind we're not sure is really non-lethal)
I never said you said those things. Go back and read my post again. Why don't you try addressing some of the points I'm making? I'll restate some of it for you, in case you didn't get it the first few times.
As long as there is DRM interfering with my fair use **RIGHTS** (note: this has not a god damn thing to do with PIRACY), I will circumvent it. If It didn't exist, I wouldn't have to get around it to exercise my RIGHTS under copyright law.
Oh, but circumventing DRM makes me a CRIMINAL! So guess what, I'm not going to do that and risk prison time.
What's the legal workaround? Download a pirated copy with no DRM.
If they dropped the DRM, they'd get my money, because I could use their product as I want (again, not PIRACY, but exercising my own fair use RIGHTS under copyright law) by converting it to multiple formats, for use on the multitude of devices I may, personally, without sharing it or distributing it to anyone else, wish to use it on. This is a fair and legitimate use of their product, which is infringed upon by DRM.
***** As long as purchasing media requires me to risk prison time in order to use said legitimately purchased media, I won't be buying.
You can blame yourself for DRM. DRM wouldn't be an issue if you didn't pirate to begin with. DRM is not the problem, it is the response. And you continue to pirate and seek to defeat DRM rather than follow the law and compensate the manufaturer and distributor.
If it's not the issue, why did you so passionately bring it up in the above quote?
A few facts for you:
DRM doesn't prevent, or even slow down piracy; so, if it's a response to piracy, it's a fucking dumbass response. (The fact is to the left of the semicolon, sorry for interjecting my opinion, but come on, that's pretty close to fact, as well.)
Those of us who seek to defeat DRM do so in order to exercise our FAIR USE RIGHTS UNDER COPYRIGHT LAW, but end up criminals under the DMCA.
The downloading and/or purchasing side of piracy is neither a crime, nor a civil offense. There's a reason you hear about the RIAA and MPAA going after P2P users, who both download AND upload, but never hear about them going after newsgroup users; this would be that reason.
Many of us would rather download pirated copies, which is legal (see above), than become criminals under the DMCA; so, we download. This keeps us out of court, keeps us out of prison (PRISON! I BOUGHT THE DAMN BLU-RAY AND JUST WANT TO TRANSCODE IT FOR MY iPOD!), and, as an added bonus, keeps $5-20/album and $5-60/movie in our bank accounts.
Uploading, and other not-for-profit distribution, is a civil matter, which is not investigated by the FBI. It has excessive fines (thousands of dollars per item) and must be pursued by the copyright holder and their lawyers.
Sales of pirated material, and other for-profit distribution, is a civil matter, as well, but of great enough concern to our economy that the FBI will investigate it in some rare cases. The penalty is the same as not-for-profit distribution, and the copyright holders and their lawyers must pursue it just as above.
Summary:
- Purchasing, stripping the DRM, and transcoding
- ILLEGAL, PRISON TIME IF CAUGHT
- Uploading, selling, and other distrbution
- CIVIL MATTER, FINANCIAL IMPLICATIONS, NO PRISON TIME - Downloading and transcoding
- LEGAL, CHEAPER, MORE CONVENIENT
Conclusion: The RIAA and MPAA are welcome to keep DRM if they wish. However, those of us who avoid some of the nastier DRM schemes out there will content protected by those schemes. Removing DRM completely would restore many of this type of pirate as paying customers; however, the taste of free media will prevent some from ever paying again. The issue of piracy due to criminalization of fair use of DRM-protected works would be easily solved by repealing the DMCA, which would allow anyone with the knowhow to transcode DRM protected media they've purchased, and those without the capability to use media-transcoding services which would be created (an additional aid to the economy, creating jobs and increasing cash flow); however, the taste of free media will prevent some from ever paying again. Distribution is a civil matter, not a criminal matter, and I don't think anyone here has argued that this should change. There are ways for the RIAA and MPAA to rebuild its customer base. The effort is going to cost money and take time; however, the taste of free media will prevent some from ever paying again.
The Sony rootkit is what alerted me to DRM. Very shortly after, it was everywhere. This isn't about avoiding Sony, it's about avoiding DRM.
In fact, it's so much not about avoiding Sony that I had been avoiding Sony electronics already, at that point, since 1996, because their quality had taken a HUGE dive and I was tired of their proprietay lock-in bullshit. It seems they're working hard to remedy both of those, based on the fact that the Sony camera I bought last week had the best image quality in its class (ultra-zoom mini), rock-solid build quality, and takes not only Memory Stick Pro Duo, but also SDHC cards. It blows away the camera I was originally going to buy, and at a lower price tag, to boot!
No, my not buying Sony was never about the rootkit or DRM of any sort. It was about two things they've resolved; and for that, they're back on my list of companies to consider.
You see, my position makes sense when taken at face value. It's only when you try and apply my arguments incorrectly that I begin to look like an asshole (in your eyes); when, in reality, while there *is* an asshole here, it's not me.
My point is, their attack on my computer, which had never, up to that point, been used to harm them in any way, turned me off of buying their (or anyone else's) DRM-infested steaming piles of shit.
Up to that point, I was a moderate-volume music and movie buyer.
If it's a fact that I haven't harmed the company, then why does anyone care? But, you're right, I haven't harmed them; they harmed themselves by making it difficult for legitimate customers to use the media they purchase [a license to] how they want to use it, often with schemes involving applying other [intended or unintended] limitations on how the consumer is able to user their own equipment going forward; restrictions and limitations which may NOT have been in place prior to inserting that piece of media into their player or computer.
If buying shit from these people means potentially damaging or reducing the functionality [e.g. damaging], my equipment, with no recourse against the manufacturer, then I'm simply not going to do it.
FACT: Pirated media has no DRM restrictions, no "Hey, we know you're a thief, even though you actually paid for THIS movie" ads, no preview (though, I HAVE seen pirated movies with previews, but, get this, I WAS ABLE TO SKIP THEM!), significantly less chance of hosing your system, the ability to transcode without bypassing some dumbass DRM or encryption (YAY! You can use it on your other devices, too!) and a lower price tag.
As long as the above is the case, I'll be a pirate, as that's the reason I started, to begin with. Where I can find a reasonably-priced, legitimate, source that lacks the DRM and personal attacks toward a PAYING CUSTOMER, I do purchase. When there are more such legitimate sources, I'll make more such purchases.
The day I can, once again, get all my music and movies, legitimately, without DRM will, indeed, be a happy day. Now that I know [how to and where] i can get it for free, though, it'll take a lower price tag to turn me completely around; I didn't know all of this before I looked into the Sony rootkit after it hosed my system.
Whoops, forgot to mention, I haven't been infected with any malware in the last 5 years, and my system still runs like the day I got it, due to the complete and utter lack of DRM-encrusted shit that routinely gets foisted upon people like KharmaWidow (who, apparently, not only accepts it, but thanks Sony for the opportunity to have been screwed in the pooper by them).
FACT: The free product is superior in quality to the non-free product. As long as this continues to be the case, I'll be choosing the free product. When the music and film industries collectively remove their heads from their asses and offer a product that doesn't treat me like a criminal, I'll, once again, become a customer.
I pay for a subscription to Pandora (http://www.pandora.com) and I've bought a few (DRM-FREE) MP3s from Amazon recently.
Pandora's restrictions are due to licensing issues from the late 90's (issues I'm intimately familiar with, as back in '04 I was on a short-lived internet radio show that had to deal with those very same issues). I support them because they offer a GREAT value and an amazing service.
Amazon offers DRM-FREE music (e.g. in a format that straight-up can't support DRM) at a reasonable price. That's value; I can put a copy on my streaming server (personal use, no, I won't give you access) and stream it to any PC in my house, access my collection from work, copy it to my Blackberry... download that track I forgot to put on my Blackberry, directly from the BB's browser... and listen to it wherever I happen to be. That's value; the freedom to do all of these *LEGAL AND FAIR USE* things......WITHOUT COMMITTING A CRIMINAL ACT BY VIOLATING THE DMCA.
You see, if I purchase, I typicaly get DRM. If I get DRM, I either wasted my money because I can't use my purchased media the way I want (and am legally entitled) to, or I'm a criminal, because I broke the encryption in order to use the media the way I want.
If I download, I'm not a criminal at all, as I haven't made a copy (remember, the uploader is making the copy, here) AND I can use the media how I want.
If I upload, I'm a civil offender, up to the point where I profit from it, then I'm a criminal. If I'm uploading to a P2P network, I'm not profiting; therefore, it's a civil matter, at worst. Can I be sued for an insane sum? Yes; but it's better than prison time for a criminal violation (breaking DRM). (Actually, no, since I don't upload.)
Pull your head out of your ass, get some fresh air, look around, and see what the fuck is going on. Do this NOW, BEFORE you say something else stupid.
Downloading isn't distribution (legally the copy is made by the uploader) and, therefore, not an offense.
Further, on a personal scale, not for profit, copyright infringement is a civil matter. The FBI not only has no jurisdiction over a civil matter, they wouldn't get involved if they did.
Yes, I download. I download all day and all night. I download this, I download that, I download porn of your mom with a baseball bat.
Yes, the rootkit came out in 2005. The CD that hosed my system was the last CD I bought. Between having to buy a new CD drive (yes, it caused physical damage to my drive), researching the cause, having to reinstall my OS, all my software, reconfigure my settings, restore my data from a recent backup... at my standard rate of $60/hr and underestimating the time it took... I probably put a goof 5hr into researching the cause of the issue, and another 40, at least, into restoring my system to its previous condition. That time was worth $2700. I suppose that's fair in your eyes?
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Considering that SATA didn't exist until 2003, I mean you're full of shit.
i've been using SATA exclusively since the late 90's
[Citation Needed]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_ATA
Assuming you mean 1999, when Tivo came out, you're still about 4 years early, guy.
2GB of storage? What format are you using and how many seconds of video is that at 1080p?
Wow, I remember my dad buying a Tivo in the mid 90's, back when external hard drive enclosures were either SCSI or Parallel.
Which of those has an SATA adapter available and which of those adapters works with Tivo?
Are you sure? I replied to your post before you even posted it, using Firefox.
Wow, the government performs terrorist acts on a daily basis, who'da thought?
I facebooked your mom.
Execute a patent troll or spammer = free citizenship
Execute a patent troll AND spammer = seat in congress
No, he got it... he was actually adding another twist to it.
You can have your Woosh back now.
So, you're saying you want to be stuck with the buggy driver that ships with the hardware, rather than the at least semi stable one that ships a year later?
I don't get all the "If you buy it, it 'just works'" arguments, either.
Thanks to DRM, if you buy it, enter the right code, keep the CD in the drive, and have a constant internet connection, it MIGHT work. If you download the pirated version with DRM removed, it 'just works'.
Case in point, my fiancee is an avid gamer. She's going to go freakin' insane for 38hr on the road in 2 weeks. We're moving from OH to CA, and the only place she'll be able to actually game, even in single-player mode, is likely to be hotels, because our internet connection doesn't follow us, so her games' DRP can't phone home.
Fuck. That.
When she mentioned playing her games on the road to keep occupied, I pointed out why it probably won't be possible; having paid good money for these games, she was probably the most pissed of I've ever seen her. I'll find pirated copies for her before we leave so I can keep my concentration on the road, rather than her complaining about being bitten by DRM (she's never complained before because she's never noticed it before).
Once again, DRM is contributing to piracy, rather than preventing it; that's how it's gone for me for the last 10 years.
If only telemarketers in EVERY OTHER COUNTRY used your logic.
I never thought I'd see the day... A respectable, intelligent telemarketing company? SRSLY?
Why not fill a box with batteries any/or capacitors?
-----
Consider that the average person parks their car all night; an overnight charge from the 20A outlet in the garage would be plenty for said average person.
But.... But... But, what if they need a quick charge?
Well, my friend, that's why you fill the charger itself with a supply of batteries and capacitors, which it charges and maintains while the vehicle is not charging.
When you need a quick charge, you plug in as normal, then hold down the QUICK CHARGE button as you turn on the charger. Then, the charger uses its internal power storage, supplemented by the house current, to provide a quick charge. After this process completes, the charger allows its batteries to cool, then begins recharging them.
See? It's not that hard. 3 modes, really:
Charge/maintain internal batteries.
Charge/maintain external batteries.
Charge/maintain both internal and external batteries.
Would a system like this work at a "refueling" station? No, they'd need high-draw setups like discussed in this article. This is the quick-charger we'd all have in our garage.
They can't find the winners?
Great. But that means you cannot pirate either.
Why's that? I'm not risking prison, or even a civil suit, by downloading.
I'll ignore all else that is wrong with your comment and just ask a simple... why?
It's ok... I've come to the conclusion that KharmaWidos is one or more of the following:
Epic Troll
Complete Moron
Absolute Fucktard
Perfect Idiot
Ignorant of Copyright Law
Ignorant of the Reasons for Piracy
Ignorant, in General
A Good Candidate for Testing of Non-Lethal Weaponary (e.g. the kind we're not sure is really non-lethal)
I never said you said those things. Go back and read my post again. Why don't you try addressing some of the points I'm making? I'll restate some of it for you, in case you didn't get it the first few times.
As long as there is DRM interfering with my fair use **RIGHTS** (note: this has not a god damn thing to do with PIRACY), I will circumvent it. If It didn't exist, I wouldn't have to get around it to exercise my RIGHTS under copyright law.
Oh, but circumventing DRM makes me a CRIMINAL! So guess what, I'm not going to do that and risk prison time.
What's the legal workaround? Download a pirated copy with no DRM.
If they dropped the DRM, they'd get my money, because I could use their product as I want (again, not PIRACY, but exercising my own fair use RIGHTS under copyright law) by converting it to multiple formats, for use on the multitude of devices I may, personally, without sharing it or distributing it to anyone else, wish to use it on. This is a fair and legitimate use of their product, which is infringed upon by DRM.
***** As long as purchasing media requires me to risk prison time in order to use said legitimately purchased media, I won't be buying.
The head image........ yes, you do.
They demonstrate vertical parallax in the video.
You can blame yourself for DRM. DRM wouldn't be an issue if you didn't pirate to begin with. DRM is not the problem, it is the response. And you continue to pirate and seek to defeat DRM rather than follow the law and compensate the manufaturer and distributor.
If it's not the issue, why did you so passionately bring it up in the above quote?
A few facts for you:
DRM doesn't prevent, or even slow down piracy; so, if it's a response to piracy, it's a fucking dumbass response. (The fact is to the left of the semicolon, sorry for interjecting my opinion, but come on, that's pretty close to fact, as well.)
Those of us who seek to defeat DRM do so in order to exercise our FAIR USE RIGHTS UNDER COPYRIGHT LAW, but end up criminals under the DMCA.
The downloading and/or purchasing side of piracy is neither a crime, nor a civil offense. There's a reason you hear about the RIAA and MPAA going after P2P users, who both download AND upload, but never hear about them going after newsgroup users; this would be that reason.
Many of us would rather download pirated copies, which is legal (see above), than become criminals under the DMCA; so, we download. This keeps us out of court, keeps us out of prison (PRISON! I BOUGHT THE DAMN BLU-RAY AND JUST WANT TO TRANSCODE IT FOR MY iPOD!), and, as an added bonus, keeps $5-20/album and $5-60/movie in our bank accounts.
Uploading, and other not-for-profit distribution, is a civil matter, which is not investigated by the FBI. It has excessive fines (thousands of dollars per item) and must be pursued by the copyright holder and their lawyers.
Sales of pirated material, and other for-profit distribution, is a civil matter, as well, but of great enough concern to our economy that the FBI will investigate it in some rare cases. The penalty is the same as not-for-profit distribution, and the copyright holders and their lawyers must pursue it just as above.
Summary:
- Purchasing, stripping the DRM, and transcoding
- ILLEGAL, PRISON TIME IF CAUGHT
- Uploading, selling, and other distrbution
- CIVIL MATTER, FINANCIAL IMPLICATIONS, NO PRISON TIME - Downloading and transcoding
- LEGAL, CHEAPER, MORE CONVENIENT
Conclusion:
The RIAA and MPAA are welcome to keep DRM if they wish. However, those of us who avoid some of the nastier DRM schemes out there will content protected by those schemes. Removing DRM completely would restore many of this type of pirate as paying customers; however, the taste of free media will prevent some from ever paying again. The issue of piracy due to criminalization of fair use of DRM-protected works would be easily solved by repealing the DMCA, which would allow anyone with the knowhow to transcode DRM protected media they've purchased, and those without the capability to use media-transcoding services which would be created (an additional aid to the economy, creating jobs and increasing cash flow); however, the taste of free media will prevent some from ever paying again. Distribution is a civil matter, not a criminal matter, and I don't think anyone here has argued that this should change. There are ways for the RIAA and MPAA to rebuild its customer base. The effort is going to cost money and take time; however, the taste of free media will prevent some from ever paying again.
Many, who are lost, are lost forever.
The Sony rootkit is what alerted me to DRM. Very shortly after, it was everywhere. This isn't about avoiding Sony, it's about avoiding DRM.
In fact, it's so much not about avoiding Sony that I had been avoiding Sony electronics already, at that point, since 1996, because their quality had taken a HUGE dive and I was tired of their proprietay lock-in bullshit. It seems they're working hard to remedy both of those, based on the fact that the Sony camera I bought last week had the best image quality in its class (ultra-zoom mini), rock-solid build quality, and takes not only Memory Stick Pro Duo, but also SDHC cards. It blows away the camera I was originally going to buy, and at a lower price tag, to boot!
No, my not buying Sony was never about the rootkit or DRM of any sort. It was about two things they've resolved; and for that, they're back on my list of companies to consider.
You see, my position makes sense when taken at face value. It's only when you try and apply my arguments incorrectly that I begin to look like an asshole (in your eyes); when, in reality, while there *is* an asshole here, it's not me.
My point is, their attack on my computer, which had never, up to that point, been used to harm them in any way, turned me off of buying their (or anyone else's) DRM-infested steaming piles of shit.
Up to that point, I was a moderate-volume music and movie buyer.
If it's a fact that I haven't harmed the company, then why does anyone care? But, you're right, I haven't harmed them; they harmed themselves by making it difficult for legitimate customers to use the media they purchase [a license to] how they want to use it, often with schemes involving applying other [intended or unintended] limitations on how the consumer is able to user their own equipment going forward; restrictions and limitations which may NOT have been in place prior to inserting that piece of media into their player or computer.
If buying shit from these people means potentially damaging or reducing the functionality [e.g. damaging], my equipment, with no recourse against the manufacturer, then I'm simply not going to do it.
FACT: Pirated media has no DRM restrictions, no "Hey, we know you're a thief, even though you actually paid for THIS movie" ads, no preview (though, I HAVE seen pirated movies with previews, but, get this, I WAS ABLE TO SKIP THEM!), significantly less chance of hosing your system, the ability to transcode without bypassing some dumbass DRM or encryption (YAY! You can use it on your other devices, too!) and a lower price tag.
As long as the above is the case, I'll be a pirate, as that's the reason I started, to begin with. Where I can find a reasonably-priced, legitimate, source that lacks the DRM and personal attacks toward a PAYING CUSTOMER, I do purchase. When there are more such legitimate sources, I'll make more such purchases.
The day I can, once again, get all my music and movies, legitimately, without DRM will, indeed, be a happy day. Now that I know [how to and where] i can get it for free, though, it'll take a lower price tag to turn me completely around; I didn't know all of this before I looked into the Sony rootkit after it hosed my system.
Whoops, forgot to mention, I haven't been infected with any malware in the last 5 years, and my system still runs like the day I got it, due to the complete and utter lack of DRM-encrusted shit that routinely gets foisted upon people like KharmaWidow (who, apparently, not only accepts it, but thanks Sony for the opportunity to have been screwed in the pooper by them).
FACT: The free product is superior in quality to the non-free product. As long as this continues to be the case, I'll be choosing the free product. When the music and film industries collectively remove their heads from their asses and offer a product that doesn't treat me like a criminal, I'll, once again, become a customer.
I pay for a subscription to Pandora (http://www.pandora.com) and I've bought a few (DRM-FREE) MP3s from Amazon recently.
Pandora's restrictions are due to licensing issues from the late 90's (issues I'm intimately familiar with, as back in '04 I was on a short-lived internet radio show that had to deal with those very same issues). I support them because they offer a GREAT value and an amazing service.
Amazon offers DRM-FREE music (e.g. in a format that straight-up can't support DRM) at a reasonable price. That's value; I can put a copy on my streaming server (personal use, no, I won't give you access) and stream it to any PC in my house, access my collection from work, copy it to my Blackberry... download that track I forgot to put on my Blackberry, directly from the BB's browser... and listen to it wherever I happen to be. That's value; the freedom to do all of these *LEGAL AND FAIR USE* things... ...WITHOUT COMMITTING A CRIMINAL ACT BY VIOLATING THE DMCA.
You see, if I purchase, I typicaly get DRM. If I get DRM, I either wasted my money because I can't use my purchased media the way I want (and am legally entitled) to, or I'm a criminal, because I broke the encryption in order to use the media the way I want.
If I download, I'm not a criminal at all, as I haven't made a copy (remember, the uploader is making the copy, here) AND I can use the media how I want.
If I upload, I'm a civil offender, up to the point where I profit from it, then I'm a criminal. If I'm uploading to a P2P network, I'm not profiting; therefore, it's a civil matter, at worst. Can I be sued for an insane sum? Yes; but it's better than prison time for a criminal violation (breaking DRM). (Actually, no, since I don't upload.)
Pull your head out of your ass, get some fresh air, look around, and see what the fuck is going on. Do this NOW, BEFORE you say something else stupid.
Downloading isn't distribution (legally the copy is made by the uploader) and, therefore, not an offense.
Further, on a personal scale, not for profit, copyright infringement is a civil matter. The FBI not only has no jurisdiction over a civil matter, they wouldn't get involved if they did.
Yes, I download. I download all day and all night. I download this, I download that, I download porn of your mom with a baseball bat.
Yes, the rootkit came out in 2005. The CD that hosed my system was the last CD I bought. Between having to buy a new CD drive (yes, it caused physical damage to my drive), researching the cause, having to reinstall my OS, all my software, reconfigure my settings, restore my data from a recent backup... at my standard rate of $60/hr and underestimating the time it took... I probably put a goof 5hr into researching the cause of the issue, and another 40, at least, into restoring my system to its previous condition. That time was worth $2700. I suppose that's fair in your eyes?
FACT: I started pirating as a reaction to having been infected by Sony's DRM rootkit and having my entire system hosed.
DRM is the problem, not the reaction.